Re: Query for showing Form menu items..
I think it will be useful so thank you for pointing me to that direction. Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 2:12 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Query for showing Form menu items.. Hi, My point was that it finds the forms and does the documentation for you. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se I don't think there is a need to add any custom code as the code that is currently attached to those menus are tested to be fully functional. I just wanted to query their DB to locate all the forms they had those menus and icons on the menu bar so I could document all the forms that would need the attention of the developers to change those to buttons or navigation items. While your def file converter seems like a useful tool that I could suggest to them after documenting the lists, right now I was primarily interested in querying and documenting them as risk items that would need some alteration so that the overall functionality of their current apps remain the same post upgrade. Cheers Joe PS: Useful tool by the way... -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:26 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Query for showing Form menu items.. Hi, Yes, you need to move it around and resize it as appropriate. You need not run it on their machines. It works on def-files and can be run anywhere. If you do not import the resulting def, nothing can happen. It converts everything, so I do not know the end result. I suspect that BMC has no Base Mode buttons defined as drop-down menus, as they would not work in Mid-Tier. If that is the case, they would only have Custom or Overlay drop-down menus, and you would be fine importing the end result. Come to think of it, it might be that I need to add some kind of property to the Nav-field to put it in the proper Custom mode... Let me know if you need that, and I will look into it. Regardless, use it to do a report of the existing drop-down menus. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13): * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. @ Fred, Yes I know about them being nothing but merely buttons presented in a different way and was trying to find a flag or a display property that easily differentiated them from the rest of the control fields. But ran into other things I thought I could do first so will circle back to this again later. @ Misi, That sounds like a handy tool. Where does the converted navigation item go on the form - does it fall in a random place and then it needs to be moved around as is necessary? I might not be able to download it and use it on their system as they may or may not allow that to be done, but I can certainly recommend that they should to make their lives a little more easy. Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 5:35 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Query for showing Form menu items.. Hi, I have a tool that converts the old navigation menu to a Nav-field. Just export the def, run the tool, and you will get a new def with the forms that needed conversion. Import it and reposition/size the Nav-field and you are done. https://rrr.se/cgi/tools/main?tool=rrrMenuToNav You will get a list of forms that needed conversion. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13): * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. The Toolbar Menu Items are just buttons (like any other on the form) so the difference must be in the display properties Fred From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 1:11 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Query for showing Form menu items.. ** For forms designed for Remedy User Tool, there was a way to create Form menu (buttons essentially that showed up in the Form Menu items part and custom tool bar icons that appeared next to the OTB record macro icon). How were these represented internally in the database? I was about to build a query to list me forms
Re: Query for showing Form menu items..
I don't think there is a need to add any custom code as the code that is currently attached to those menus are tested to be fully functional. I just wanted to query their DB to locate all the forms they had those menus and icons on the menu bar so I could document all the forms that would need the attention of the developers to change those to buttons or navigation items. While your def file converter seems like a useful tool that I could suggest to them after documenting the lists, right now I was primarily interested in querying and documenting them as risk items that would need some alteration so that the overall functionality of their current apps remain the same post upgrade. Cheers Joe PS: Useful tool by the way... -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:26 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Query for showing Form menu items.. Hi, Yes, you need to move it around and resize it as appropriate. You need not run it on their machines. It works on def-files and can be run anywhere. If you do not import the resulting def, nothing can happen. It converts everything, so I do not know the end result. I suspect that BMC has no Base Mode buttons defined as drop-down menus, as they would not work in Mid-Tier. If that is the case, they would only have Custom or Overlay drop-down menus, and you would be fine importing the end result. Come to think of it, it might be that I need to add some kind of property to the Nav-field to put it in the proper Custom mode... Let me know if you need that, and I will look into it. Regardless, use it to do a report of the existing drop-down menus. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13): * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. @ Fred, Yes I know about them being nothing but merely buttons presented in a different way and was trying to find a flag or a display property that easily differentiated them from the rest of the control fields. But ran into other things I thought I could do first so will circle back to this again later. @ Misi, That sounds like a handy tool. Where does the converted navigation item go on the form - does it fall in a random place and then it needs to be moved around as is necessary? I might not be able to download it and use it on their system as they may or may not allow that to be done, but I can certainly recommend that they should to make their lives a little more easy. Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 5:35 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Query for showing Form menu items.. Hi, I have a tool that converts the old navigation menu to a Nav-field. Just export the def, run the tool, and you will get a new def with the forms that needed conversion. Import it and reposition/size the Nav-field and you are done. https://rrr.se/cgi/tools/main?tool=rrrMenuToNav You will get a list of forms that needed conversion. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13): * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. The Toolbar Menu Items are just buttons (like any other on the form) so the difference must be in the display properties Fred From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 1:11 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Query for showing Form menu items.. ** For forms designed for Remedy User Tool, there was a way to create Form menu (buttons essentially that showed up in the Form Menu items part and custom tool bar icons that appeared next to the OTB record macro icon). How were these represented internally in the database? I was about to build a query to list me forms that had this and another query to list all the custom form menu items and those little custom toolbar buttons. Joe ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20
Re: Query for showing Form menu items..
Hi, My point was that it finds the forms and does the documentation for you. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se I don't think there is a need to add any custom code as the code that is currently attached to those menus are tested to be fully functional. I just wanted to query their DB to locate all the forms they had those menus and icons on the menu bar so I could document all the forms that would need the attention of the developers to change those to buttons or navigation items. While your def file converter seems like a useful tool that I could suggest to them after documenting the lists, right now I was primarily interested in querying and documenting them as risk items that would need some alteration so that the overall functionality of their current apps remain the same post upgrade. Cheers Joe PS: Useful tool by the way... -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:26 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Query for showing Form menu items.. Hi, Yes, you need to move it around and resize it as appropriate. You need not run it on their machines. It works on def-files and can be run anywhere. If you do not import the resulting def, nothing can happen. It converts everything, so I do not know the end result. I suspect that BMC has no Base Mode buttons defined as drop-down menus, as they would not work in Mid-Tier. If that is the case, they would only have Custom or Overlay drop-down menus, and you would be fine importing the end result. Come to think of it, it might be that I need to add some kind of property to the Nav-field to put it in the proper Custom mode... Let me know if you need that, and I will look into it. Regardless, use it to do a report of the existing drop-down menus. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13): * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. @ Fred, Yes I know about them being nothing but merely buttons presented in a different way and was trying to find a flag or a display property that easily differentiated them from the rest of the control fields. But ran into other things I thought I could do first so will circle back to this again later. @ Misi, That sounds like a handy tool. Where does the converted navigation item go on the form - does it fall in a random place and then it needs to be moved around as is necessary? I might not be able to download it and use it on their system as they may or may not allow that to be done, but I can certainly recommend that they should to make their lives a little more easy. Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 5:35 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Query for showing Form menu items.. Hi, I have a tool that converts the old navigation menu to a Nav-field. Just export the def, run the tool, and you will get a new def with the forms that needed conversion. Import it and reposition/size the Nav-field and you are done. https://rrr.se/cgi/tools/main?tool=rrrMenuToNav You will get a list of forms that needed conversion. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13): * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. The Toolbar Menu Items are just buttons (like any other on the form) so the difference must be in the display properties Fred From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 1:11 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Query for showing Form menu items.. ** For forms designed for Remedy User Tool, there was a way to create Form menu (buttons essentially that showed up in the Form Menu items part and custom tool bar icons that appeared next to the OTB record macro icon). How were these represented internally in the database? I was about to build a query to list me forms that had this and another query to list all the custom form menu items and those little custom toolbar buttons. Joe ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Query for showing Form menu items..
Hi, Yes, you need to move it around and resize it as appropriate. You need not run it on their machines. It works on def-files and can be run anywhere. If you do not import the resulting def, nothing can happen. It converts everything, so I do not know the end result. I suspect that BMC has no Base Mode buttons defined as drop-down menus, as they would not work in Mid-Tier. If that is the case, they would only have Custom or Overlay drop-down menus, and you would be fine importing the end result. Come to think of it, it might be that I need to add some kind of property to the Nav-field to put it in the proper Custom mode... Let me know if you need that, and I will look into it. Regardless, use it to do a report of the existing drop-down menus. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13): * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. @ Fred, Yes I know about them being nothing but merely buttons presented in a different way and was trying to find a flag or a display property that easily differentiated them from the rest of the control fields. But ran into other things I thought I could do first so will circle back to this again later. @ Misi, That sounds like a handy tool. Where does the converted navigation item go on the form - does it fall in a random place and then it needs to be moved around as is necessary? I might not be able to download it and use it on their system as they may or may not allow that to be done, but I can certainly recommend that they should to make their lives a little more easy. Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 5:35 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Query for showing Form menu items.. Hi, I have a tool that converts the old navigation menu to a Nav-field. Just export the def, run the tool, and you will get a new def with the forms that needed conversion. Import it and reposition/size the Nav-field and you are done. https://rrr.se/cgi/tools/main?tool=rrrMenuToNav You will get a list of forms that needed conversion. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13): * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. The Toolbar Menu Items are just buttons (like any other on the form) so the difference must be in the display properties Fred From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 1:11 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Query for showing Form menu items.. ** For forms designed for Remedy User Tool, there was a way to create Form menu (buttons essentially that showed up in the Form Menu items part and custom tool bar icons that appeared next to the OTB record macro icon). How were these represented internally in the database? I was about to build a query to list me forms that had this and another query to list all the custom form menu items and those little custom toolbar buttons. Joe ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Query for showing Form menu items..
For forms designed for Remedy User Tool, there was a way to create Form menu (buttons essentially that showed up in the Form Menu items part and custom tool bar icons that appeared next to the OTB record macro icon). How were these represented internally in the database? I was about to build a query to list me forms that had this and another query to list all the custom form menu items and those little custom toolbar buttons. Joe ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Query for showing Form menu items..
The Toolbar Menu Items are just buttons (like any other on the form) so the difference must be in the display properties Fred From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 1:11 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Query for showing Form menu items.. ** For forms designed for Remedy User Tool, there was a way to create Form menu (buttons essentially that showed up in the Form Menu items part and custom tool bar icons that appeared next to the OTB record macro icon). How were these represented internally in the database? I was about to build a query to list me forms that had this and another query to list all the custom form menu items and those little custom toolbar buttons. Joe ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Query for showing Form menu items..
@ Fred, Yes I know about them being nothing but merely buttons presented in a different way and was trying to find a flag or a display property that easily differentiated them from the rest of the control fields. But ran into other things I thought I could do first so will circle back to this again later. @ Misi, That sounds like a handy tool. Where does the converted navigation item go on the form - does it fall in a random place and then it needs to be moved around as is necessary? I might not be able to download it and use it on their system as they may or may not allow that to be done, but I can certainly recommend that they should to make their lives a little more easy. Cheers Joe -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 5:35 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Query for showing Form menu items.. Hi, I have a tool that converts the old navigation menu to a Nav-field. Just export the def, run the tool, and you will get a new def with the forms that needed conversion. Import it and reposition/size the Nav-field and you are done. https://rrr.se/cgi/tools/main?tool=rrrMenuToNav You will get a list of forms that needed conversion. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13): * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. The Toolbar Menu Items are just buttons (like any other on the form) so the difference must be in the display properties Fred From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 1:11 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Query for showing Form menu items.. ** For forms designed for Remedy User Tool, there was a way to create Form menu (buttons essentially that showed up in the Form Menu items part and custom tool bar icons that appeared next to the OTB record macro icon). How were these represented internally in the database? I was about to build a query to list me forms that had this and another query to list all the custom form menu items and those little custom toolbar buttons. Joe ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Query for showing Form menu items..
Hi, I have a tool that converts the old navigation menu to a Nav-field. Just export the def, run the tool, and you will get a new def with the forms that needed conversion. Import it and reposition/size the Nav-field and you are done. https://rrr.se/cgi/tools/main?tool=rrrMenuToNav You will get a list of forms that needed conversion. Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011) Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13): * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. The Toolbar Menu Items are just buttons (like any other on the form) so the difference must be in the display properties Fred From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 1:11 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Query for showing Form menu items.. ** For forms designed for Remedy User Tool, there was a way to create Form menu (buttons essentially that showed up in the Form Menu items part and custom tool bar icons that appeared next to the OTB record macro icon). How were these represented internally in the database? I was about to build a query to list me forms that had this and another query to list all the custom form menu items and those little custom toolbar buttons. Joe ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
