Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts

2014-03-11 Thread Hennigan, Sandra
Does security have an application timeout?

Thank you,

Sandra Hennigan
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extremely low amount of time from the Mid Tier? This is even happening to some 
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Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts

2014-03-11 Thread Dale Jones
Describe your environment (Load balancers?? or SSO??)

I recently had a 8.1.01 customer with Java SSO (Single Sign On) where we had to 
increase the Java SSO time deviation.

We were getting the following error in the Plugin Logs
Too much deviation between the token timestamp and the system time.

Once we increased the Deviation parameter the timeout issues stopped.

Take Care

Dale Jones
DCS
Raleigh, NC
919-523-6034

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Does security have an application timeout?

Thank you,

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Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts

2014-03-11 Thread Roney Samuel Varghese.
Do you have single sign on? If you do check if users are connected to two 
environments at once. Some of the SSO solutions don't like this and times out 
users based on their logged in environments. You can alternatively check the 
tomcat and midtier timeout parameters. 

Regards,
Roney Samuel Varghese. 
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> Has anyone ran into the issue where their users are timing out after an 
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> after sometimes as little as 10 minutes.
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Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts

2014-03-11 Thread Lippincott, Levi (OMA-GIS)
Our Mid Tier is configured for the 90 minute default timeout with a 300 second 
license release. We went into our Tomcat settings and made its timeout 92 min 
just to ensure the settings in the Mid Tier are not being overrode by the 
Tomcat settings. Yet we have some users with Fixed licenses, who do not have a 
User Preference for Timeout configured, that are getting session inactive 
errors after sometimes as low as 10 minutes.

Was there another security setting you were wanting me to give details on?

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Subject: Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts

**
Does security have an application timeout?

Thank you,

Sandra Hennigan
Remedy Developer

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Subject: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts

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extremely low amount of time from the Mid Tier? This is even happening to some 
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sometimes as little as 10 minutes.

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Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts

2014-03-11 Thread LJ LongWing
Levi,
As pointed out, are you using a Load Balancer?  Do you have sticky bits
(session affinity) set?  What is the timeout on that?


On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Lippincott, Levi (OMA-GIS) <
levi.lippinc...@interpublic.com> wrote:

> **
>
> Our Mid Tier is configured for the 90 minute default timeout with a 300
> second license release. We went into our Tomcat settings and made its
> timeout 92 min just to ensure the settings in the Mid Tier are not being
> overrode by the Tomcat settings. Yet we have some users with Fixed
> licenses, who do not have a User Preference for Timeout configured, that
> are getting session inactive errors after sometimes as low as 10 minutes.
>
>
>
> Was there another security setting you were wanting me to give details on?
>
>
>
> *Levi Lippincott / *Remedy Administrator
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:34 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts
>
>
>
> **
>
> Does security have an application timeout?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Sandra Hennigan
>
> Remedy Developer
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Lippincott,
> Levi (OMA-GIS)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:26 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts
>
>
>
> **
>
> Has anyone ran into the issue where their users are timing out after an
> extremely low amount of time from the Mid Tier? This is even happening to
> some of our Fixed license users. They are getting session invalid errors
> after sometimes as little as 10 minutes.
>
>
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Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts

2014-03-11 Thread Lippincott, Levi (OMA-GIS)
Sorry Dale, no Load balancer and no SSO. Relatively small environment. Users 
are connecting directly to the Mid Tier server and signing in. Authentication 
is happening through LDAP.

I will run some Plugin Logs to find out if may be something related to the LDAP 
authentication if you think that is a route to go.

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Dale Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:39 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts

**
Describe your environment (Load balancers?? or SSO??)

I recently had a 8.1.01 customer with Java SSO (Single Sign On) where we had to 
increase the Java SSO time deviation.

We were getting the following error in the Plugin Logs
Too much deviation between the token timestamp and the system time.

Once we increased the Deviation parameter the timeout issues stopped.

Take Care

Dale Jones
DCS
Raleigh, NC
919-523-6034

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Subject: Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts
**
Does security have an application timeout?

Thank you,

Sandra Hennigan
Remedy Developer

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Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:26 PM
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Subject: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts

**
Has anyone ran into the issue where their users are timing out after an 
extremely low amount of time from the Mid Tier? This is even happening to some 
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sometimes as little as 10 minutes.

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Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts

2014-03-11 Thread LJ LongWing
Ok...it's not an authentication issue.  The error of 'Session is invalid'
is referring specifically to their session with Tomcat.  I would focus my
attention on Tomcat at that point...is it bouncing on it's own, have you
checked the logs for the timeframes that this seems to be happening and see
if anything is happening over there?


On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Lippincott, Levi (OMA-GIS) <
levi.lippinc...@interpublic.com> wrote:

> **
>
> Sorry Dale, no Load balancer and no SSO. Relatively small environment.
> Users are connecting directly to the Mid Tier server and signing in.
> Authentication is happening through LDAP.
>
>
>
> I will run some Plugin Logs to find out if may be something related to the
> LDAP authentication if you think that is a route to go.
>
>
>
> *Levi Lippincott / *Remedy Administrator
>
>
>
> +1 402 561 7014 office
>
> +1 402 321 5421 mobile
>
> levi.lippinc...@interpublic.com
>
>
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>
>
>
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>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Dale Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:39 PM
>
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts
>
>
>
> **
>
> Describe your environment (Load balancers?? or SSO??)
>
> I recently had a 8.1.01 customer with Java SSO (Single Sign On) where we
> had to increase the Java SSO time deviation.
>
> We were getting the following error in the Plugin Logs
> Too much deviation between the token timestamp and the system time.
>
> Once we increased the Deviation parameter the timeout issues stopped.
>
> Take Care
>
>
>
> Dale Jones
>
> DCS
>
> Raleigh, NC
>
> 919-523-6034
>------
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] on behalf of Hennigan, Sandra [
> sandra.henni...@usdoj.gov]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:33 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts
>
> **
>
> Does security have an application timeout?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Sandra Hennigan
>
> Remedy Developer
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Lippincott,
> Levi (OMA-GIS)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:26 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts
>
>
>
> **
>
> Has anyone ran into the issue where their users are timing out after an
> extremely low amount of time from the Mid Tier? This is even happening to
> some of our Fixed license users. They are getting session invalid errors
> after sometimes as little as 10 minutes.
>
>
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Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts

2014-03-11 Thread Lippincott, Levi (OMA-GIS)
There was almost nothing in the error logs except a bunch of: Qualification 
String length is zero returning null.

I will keep poking around... maybe there is some sort of keep alive setting on 
the router or something.

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:49 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts

**
Ok...it's not an authentication issue.  The error of 'Session is invalid' is 
referring specifically to their session with Tomcat.  I would focus my 
attention on Tomcat at that point...is it bouncing on it's own, have you 
checked the logs for the timeframes that this seems to be happening and see if 
anything is happening over there?

On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Lippincott, Levi (OMA-GIS) 
mailto:levi.lippinc...@interpublic.com>> wrote:
**
Sorry Dale, no Load balancer and no SSO. Relatively small environment. Users 
are connecting directly to the Mid Tier server and signing in. Authentication 
is happening through LDAP.

I will run some Plugin Logs to find out if may be something related to the LDAP 
authentication if you think that is a route to go.

Levi Lippincott / Remedy Administrator

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Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:39 PM

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts

**
Describe your environment (Load balancers?? or SSO??)

I recently had a 8.1.01 customer with Java SSO (Single Sign On) where we had to 
increase the Java SSO time deviation.

We were getting the following error in the Plugin Logs
Too much deviation between the token timestamp and the system time.

Once we increased the Deviation parameter the timeout issues stopped.

Take Care

Dale Jones
DCS
Raleigh, NC
919-523-6034

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Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:33 PM
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Subject: Re: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts
**
Does security have an application timeout?

Thank you,

Sandra Hennigan
Remedy Developer

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Subject: Mid Tier 8.1.01 Timeouts

**
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extremely low amount of time from the Mid Tier? This is even happening to some 
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