Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-28 Thread Arner, Todd
Although copying the DB does not physically move the MAC ID, it will
move the server license key associated with the copied servers Host ID
(MAC).  This is easily fixed by adding the correct license after the
copy.  If you plan to do this regularly, you can add both the prod and
dev server license keys to the prod server.  Then when the DB is copied
it will ignore the incorrect key and use the correct dev key.
 
Todd Arner
Great Lakes



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** -- 
Coping a database doesnt copy the mac ID.. as long as the database is
free of any hard coded server references, it should work.
 
And off course the versions should match both of the ARS server and the
database..
 
Joe




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-- 

The server is local - about 20 feet away.

 

I was told that copying via an SQL database copy wouldn't work due to
mac addresses being copied from

the old to the new database, etc. - hence it seemed like Migrator would
be the way to gobut that's a

guess - hence asking on the list.

 

 

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** 

Richard,

 

What is the purpose of copying this data? Depending on that your tools
and hence the method would vary..

 

DSO is for copying data to 'follow the sun' to ensure business
continuity irrespective of the time locally in case you have global
operations.

 

DB / system Replication is another alternative. For replication there is
more than one method and your choice really depends on the resources
available.

 

 

Joe

 



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Subject: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

** 

We need to copy data from one server to another but have a few
questions...such as is the migrator robust/reliable enough to do it, and
at what version and patch level? Is there a specific procedure that we
need to follow/a particular order to have the best chance for success?
Any/all help/suggestions/cautions are appreciated.

 




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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-28 Thread Joe DeSouza
That is correct. And even if there is a license with a wrong MAC Id in the 
License form, the system will ignore that license. It only looks for a license 
that matches its own host ID. That is how the server picks up the right license 
in case of a server group.
 
Joe




From: Arner, Todd tar...@glhec.org
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Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 7:55:49 AM
Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

** 
Although copying the DB does not physically move the MAC ID, it will move the 
server license key associated with the copied servers Host ID (MAC).  This is 
easily fixed by adding the correct license after the copy.  If you plan to do 
this regularly, you can add both the prod and dev server license keys to the 
prod server.  Then when the DB is copied it will ignore the incorrect key and 
use the correct dev key.
 
Todd Arner
Great Lakes



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Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

** -- 
Coping a database doesnt copy the mac ID.. as long as the database is free of 
any hard coded server references, it should work.

And off course the versions should match both of the ARS server and the 
database..

Joe





From: Richard Copits richard@bwc.state.oh.us
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 3:49:54 PM
Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

-- 
The server is local – about 20 feet away.
 
I was told that copying via an SQL database copy wouldn’t work due to mac 
addresses being copied from
theold to the new database, etc. – hence it seemed like Migrator would be the 
way to go….but that’s a
guess– hence asking on the list…..
 
 
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Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...
 
** 
Richard,
 
What is the purpose of copying this data? Depending on that your tools and 
hence 
the method would vary..
 
DSO is for copying data to 'follow the sun' to ensure business continuity 
irrespective of the time locally in case you have global operations.
 
DB / system Replication is another alternative. For replication there is more 
than one method and your choice really depends on the resources available.
 
 
Joe
 



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Subject: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

** 
We need to copy data from one server to another but have a few questions…such 
as 
is the migrator robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version and patch 
level? Is there a specific procedure that we need to follow/a particular order 
to have the best chance for success? Any/all help/suggestions/cautions are 
appreciated…..
 




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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Darrell Reading
A couple questions.  OS, Database, and ARS level?

 

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** 

We need to copy data from one server to another 

but have a few questions...such as is the migrator

robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version

and patch level? Is there a specific procedure that we

need to follow/a particular order to have the best

chance for success? Any/all help/suggestions/cautions

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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
Also . Is this a one-time copy on an ongoing thing (daily/weekly/monthly/.)?

Fred


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A couple questions.  OS, Database, and ARS level?

Darrell Reading Systems Engineer 
Phone 479.204.5739 
dere...@wal-mart.com 
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. 
805 Moberly Lane, MS-0560-68 
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Subject: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

We need to copy data from one server to another 
but have a few questions.such as is the migrator
robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version
and patch level? Is there a specific procedure that we
need to follow/a particular order to have the best
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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Richard Copits
Windows 2003 server
MS Sql 2005
AR 7.5 patch 01

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**
A couple questions.  OS, Database, and ARS level?

Darrell Reading Systems Engineer
Phone 479.204.5739
dere...@wal-mart.com
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
805 Moberly Lane, MS-0560-68
Bentonville, AR 72716
Save Money. Live Better
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**
We need to copy data from one server to another
but have a few questions...such as is the migrator
robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version
and patch level? Is there a specific procedure that we
need to follow/a particular order to have the best
chance for success? Any/all help/suggestions/cautions
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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Richard Copits
One time, but the way that things tend to go it may be biweekly from production 
to development
test server.

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Also . Is this a one-time copy on an ongoing thing (daily/weekly/monthly/.)?

Fred


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A couple questions.  OS, Database, and ARS level?

Darrell Reading Systems Engineer
Phone 479.204.5739
dere...@wal-mart.com
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
805 Moberly Lane, MS-0560-68
Bentonville, AR 72716
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Subject: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

We need to copy data from one server to another
but have a few questions.such as is the migrator
robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version
and patch level? Is there a specific procedure that we
need to follow/a particular order to have the best
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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Chintan Shah
Richard,
There are plenty of ways to do this. One of them is implementing DSO 
(Distributed Server Object) server. Based on configuration, DSO can move data 
from 1 server to another instantaneously. More information can be found in 6.3 
documentation(DSOAdminGuide-630.pdf).

Thanks
Chintan.

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Subject: Moving/copying data from one server to another...
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Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 10:42 AM

**


 
 
 
 




We need to copy data from one server to another  
but have a few questions…such as is the migrator 
robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version 
and patch level? Is there a specific procedure that we 
need to follow/a particular order to have the best 
chance for success? Any/all help/suggestions/cautions 
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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Richard Copits
Will that work with a 7.5 database?

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**
Richard,
There are plenty of ways to do this. One of them is implementing DSO 
(Distributed Server Object) server. Based on configuration, DSO can move data 
from 1 server to another instantaneously. More information can be found in 6.3 
documentation(DSOAdminGuide-630.pdf).

Thanks
Chintan.

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From: Richard Copits richard@bwc.state.oh.us
Subject: Moving/copying data from one server to another...
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 10:42 AM
**

We need to copy data from one server to another

but have a few questions…such as is the migrator

robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version

and patch level? Is there a specific procedure that we

need to follow/a particular order to have the best

chance for success? Any/all help/suggestions/cautions

are appreciated…..



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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Joe DeSouza
Richard,

What is the purpose of copying this data? Depending on that your tools and 
hence 
the method would vary..

DSO is for copying data to 'follow the sun' to ensure business continuity 
irrespective of the time locally in case you have global operations.

DB / system Replication is another alternative. For replication there is more 
than one method and your choice really depends on the resources available.


Joe




From: Richard Copits richard@bwc.state.oh.us
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 1:42:07 PM
Subject: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

** 
We need to copy data from one server to another but have a few questions…such 
as 
is the migrator robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version and patch 
level? Is there a specific procedure that we need to follow/a particular order 
to have the best chance for success? Any/all help/suggestions/cautions are 
appreciated…..


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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Richard Copits
The server is local – about 20 feet away.

I was told that copying via an SQL database copy wouldn’t work due to mac 
addresses being copied from
the old to the new database, etc. – hence it seemed like Migrator would be the 
way to go….but that’s a
guess – hence asking on the list…..


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Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

**
Richard,

What is the purpose of copying this data? Depending on that your tools and 
hence the method would vary..

DSO is for copying data to 'follow the sun' to ensure business continuity 
irrespective of the time locally in case you have global operations.

DB / system Replication is another alternative. For replication there is more 
than one method and your choice really depends on the resources available.


Joe


From: Richard Copits 
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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 1:42:07 PM
Subject: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

**
We need to copy data from one server to another but have a few questions…such 
as is the migrator robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version and 
patch level? Is there a specific procedure that we need to follow/a particular 
order to have the best chance for success? Any/all help/suggestions/cautions 
are appreciated…..



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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
If you check the archives you will see lots of threads on db copying.  
Personally, that would be my 1st choice for this type of replication.

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Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

The server is local – about 20 feet away.

I was told that copying via an SQL database copy wouldn’t work due to mac 
addresses being copied from
the old to the new database, etc. – hence it seemed like Migrator would be the 
way to go….but that’s a
guess – hence asking on the list…..


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Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:45 PM
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Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

**
Richard,

What is the purpose of copying this data? Depending on that your tools and 
hence the method would vary..

DSO is for copying data to 'follow the sun' to ensure business continuity 
irrespective of the time locally in case you have global operations.

DB / system Replication is another alternative. For replication there is more 
than one method and your choice really depends on the resources available.


Joe


From: Richard Copits 
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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 1:42:07 PM
Subject: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

**
We need to copy data from one server to another but have a few questions…such 
as is the migrator robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version and 
patch level? Is there a specific procedure that we need to follow/a particular 
order to have the best chance for success? Any/all help/suggestions/cautions 
are appreciated…..




Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread LJ LongWing
Joe,

I once used DSO to keep my reporting server up to date J…..so it’s not 
necessarily just for follow the sun J

 

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** 

Richard,

 

What is the purpose of copying this data? Depending on that your tools and 
hence the method would vary..

 

DSO is for copying data to 'follow the sun' to ensure business continuity 
irrespective of the time locally in case you have global operations.

 

DB / system Replication is another alternative. For replication there is more 
than one method and your choice really depends on the resources available.

 

 

Joe

 

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From: Richard Copits richard@bwc.state.oh.us
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 1:42:07 PM
Subject: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

** 

We need to copy data from one server to another but have a few questions…such 
as is the migrator robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version and 
patch level? Is there a specific procedure that we need to follow/a particular 
order to have the best chance for success? Any/all help/suggestions/cautions 
are appreciated…..

 

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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Richard Copits
Already done….just looking for current/recent experiences….thanks anyway….

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Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

If you check the archives you will see lots of threads on db copying.  
Personally, that would be my 1st choice for this type of replication.

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Richard Copits
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:50 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

The server is local – about 20 feet away.

I was told that copying via an SQL database copy wouldn’t work due to mac 
addresses being copied from
the old to the new database, etc. – hence it seemed like Migrator would be the 
way to go….but that’s a
guess – hence asking on the list…..


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**
Richard,

What is the purpose of copying this data? Depending on that your tools and 
hence the method would vary..

DSO is for copying data to 'follow the sun' to ensure business continuity 
irrespective of the time locally in case you have global operations.

DB / system Replication is another alternative. For replication there is more 
than one method and your choice really depends on the resources available.


Joe


From: Richard Copits 
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Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 1:42:07 PM
Subject: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

**
We need to copy data from one server to another but have a few questions…such 
as is the migrator robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version and 
patch level? Is there a specific procedure that we need to follow/a particular 
order to have the best chance for success? Any/all help/suggestions/cautions 
are appreciated…..





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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Joe DeSouza
Coping a database doesnt copy the mac ID.. as long as the database is free of 
any hard coded server references, it should work.

And off course the versions should match both of the ARS server and the 
database..

Joe





From: Richard Copits richard@bwc.state.oh.us
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 3:49:54 PM
Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...


The server is local – about 20 feet away.
 
I was told that copying via an SQL database copy wouldn’t work due to mac 
addresses being copied from
theold to the new database, etc. – hence it seemed like Migrator would be the 
way to go….but that’s a
guess– hence asking on the list…..
 
 
From:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] 
On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:45 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...
 
** 
Richard,
 
What is the purpose of copying this data? Depending on that your tools and 
hence 
the method would vary..
 
DSO is for copying data to 'follow the sun' to ensure business continuity 
irrespective of the time locally in case you have global operations.
 
DB / system Replication is another alternative. For replication there is more 
than one method and your choice really depends on the resources available.
 
 
Joe
 



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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 1:42:07 PM
Subject: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

** 
We need to copy data from one server to another but have a few questions…such 
as 
is the migrator robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version and patch 
level? Is there a specific procedure that we need to follow/a particular order 
to have the best chance for success? Any/all help/suggestions/cautions are 
appreciated…..
 




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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Boyd, Rebecca E.
We do a P to V (Physical to VM) every once in a while. It’s not the kind of 
thing you want to do every week, but it does create an exactly replica of the 
production environment.  Once the VM is up  running, we have a checklist of 
things to edit like ar.cfg, armonitor.cfg, emaildeaemon.properties, etc. Look 
for both server name and the IP address. We also have to uninstall and 
re-install AIE.

 

HTH,

 

Rebecca

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:10 PM
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** 

Coping a database doesnt copy the mac ID.. as long as the database is free of 
any hard coded server references, it should work.

 

And off course the versions should match both of the ARS server and the 
database..

 

Joe

 



From: Richard Copits richard@bwc.state.oh.us
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 3:49:54 PM
Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

The server is local – about 20 feet away.

 

I was told that copying via an SQL database copy wouldn’t work due to mac 
addresses being copied from

the old to the new database, etc. – hence it seemed like Migrator would be the 
way to go….but that’s a

guess – hence asking on the list…..

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:45 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

 

** 

Richard,

 

What is the purpose of copying this data? Depending on that your tools and 
hence the method would vary..

 

DSO is for copying data to 'follow the sun' to ensure business continuity 
irrespective of the time locally in case you have global operations.

 

DB / system Replication is another alternative. For replication there is more 
than one method and your choice really depends on the resources available.

 

 

Joe

 



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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 1:42:07 PM
Subject: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

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We need to copy data from one server to another but have a few questions…such 
as is the migrator robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version and 
patch level? Is there a specific procedure that we need to follow/a particular 
order to have the best chance for success? Any/all help/suggestions/cautions 
are appreciated…..

 




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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

Do have a look at RRR|Chive. It can do incremental data transfers of the
forms you need (probably most forms but not all) very quickly.

https://www.rrr.se/cgi/rrrchive/rrrchive
https://www.rrr.se/cgi/rrrchive/config
https://www.rrr.se/c/doc/rrrchive/

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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Joe DeSouza
That is an innovative use of it :-)

Joe




From: LJ LongWing lj.longw...@gmail.com
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Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 4:19:29 PM
Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

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Joe,
I once used DSO to keep my reporting server up to date J…..so it’s not 
necessarily just for follow the sun J
 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:45 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...
 
** 
Richard,
 
What is the purpose of copying this data? Depending on that your tools and 
hence 
the method would vary..
 
DSO is for copying data to 'follow the sun' to ensure business continuity 
irrespective of the time locally in case you have global operations.
 
DB / system Replication is another alternative. For replication there is more 
than one method and your choice really depends on the resources available.
 
 
Joe
 



From:Richard Copits richard@bwc.state.oh.us
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 1:42:07 PM
Subject: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

** 
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as 
is the migrator robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version and patch 
level? Is there a specific procedure that we need to follow/a particular order 
to have the best chance for success? Any/all help/suggestions/cautions are 
appreciated…..
 




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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Jason Miller
We have stared using Meta-Update for transferring (and transforming) data.
You can script record updates, creates and deletes (say if the record no
longer exists in the source server).  It is nice to have the ability to do
more traditional loops and if then else statements and still use the Remedy
API.

Jason

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richard@bwc.state.oh.us wrote:

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 We need to copy data from one server to another

 but have a few questions…such as is the migrator

 robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version

 and patch level? Is there a specific procedure that we

 need to follow/a particular order to have the best

 chance for success? Any/all help/suggestions/cautions

 are appreciated…..

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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Joe DeSouza
Like Fred, I'd second DB replication too.. There may be server names that 
'accidentally' gets hard-coded into the definitions.. There may also be some 
server names embedded in configuration data like AIE, Help Files configuration 
in the application properties form, etc..

The process for removing these can be scripted, and perfected over a few 
iterations if you choose to remove these using DB scripts..

Joe





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Already done….just looking for current/recent experiences….thanks anyway….
 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:16 PM
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If you check the archives you will see lots of threads on db copying.  
Personally, that would be my 1st choice for this type of replication.
 
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Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...
 
The server is local – about 20 feet away.
 
I was told that copying via an SQL database copy wouldn’t work due to mac 
addresses being copied from
the old to the new database, etc. – hence it seemed like Migrator would be the 
way to go….but that’s a
guess – hence asking on the list…..
 
 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:45 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...
 
** 
Richard,
 
What is the purpose of copying this data? Depending on that your tools and 
hence 
the method would vary..
 
DSO is for copying data to 'follow the sun' to ensure business continuity 
irrespective of the time locally in case you have global operations.
 
DB / system Replication is another alternative. For replication there is more 
than one method and your choice really depends on the resources available.
 
 
Joe
 



From:Richard Copits richard@bwc.state.oh.us
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 1:42:07 PM
Subject: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

** 
We need to copy data from one server to another but have a few questions…such 
as 
is the migrator robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version and patch 
level? Is there a specific procedure that we need to follow/a particular order 
to have the best chance for success? Any/all help/suggestions/cautions are 
appreciated…..
 
 


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Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

2010-07-27 Thread Chintan Shah
Yes.

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From: Richard Copits richard@bwc.state.oh.us
Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another...
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 11:51 AM



 
 
 
 




Will that work with a 7.5 database? 
   

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Subject: Re: Moving/copying data from one server to another... 

   
**  




Richard,

There are plenty of ways to do this. One of them is implementing DSO 
(Distributed Server Object) server. Based on configuration, DSO can move data 
from 1 server to another instantaneously. More information can be found in 6.3 
documentation(DSOAdminGuide-630.pdf).



Thanks

Chintan.



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From: Richard Copits richard@bwc.state.oh.us

Subject: Moving/copying data from one server to another...

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 10:42 AM 

**  

We need to copy data from one server to another
 
but have a few questions…such as is the migrator 
robust/reliable enough to do it, and at what version 
and patch level? Is there a specific procedure that we 
need to follow/a particular order to have the best 
chance for success? Any/all help/suggestions/cautions 
are appreciated….. 

   





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