Re: WWRUG 2009

2009-11-12 Thread Jason Miller
Just to share the my last few tweets about Evening with Engineering and
Friends for those who can't get to twitter.  What a great night!

   1. [image: Default_profile_1_normal]
jas0nmillerhttp://twitter.com/jas0nmiller It
   was great to complement/thank the people who made many 7.5 features happen.
   Wish we could do this more often
#*WWRUG*https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WWRUG 24
   minutes ago http://twitter.com/jas0nmiller/statuses/5643943086from
   UberTwitter http://ubertwitter.com/   https://twitter.com/#
   
https://twitter.com/home?stat...@jas0nmiller%20in_reply_to_status_id=5643943086in_reply_to=jas0nmiller
   2.  [image: Default_profile_1_normal]
jas0nmillerhttp://twitter.com/jas0nmiller The
   undisclosed future seems bright for ARS and the apps. More moving to the AR
   platform in the future. #*WWRUG* https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WWRUG 27
   minutes ago http://twitter.com/jas0nmiller/statuses/5643907263from
   UberTwitter http://ubertwitter.com/   https://twitter.com/#
   
https://twitter.com/home?stat...@jas0nmiller%20in_reply_to_status_id=5643907263in_reply_to=jas0nmiller
   3.  [image: Default_profile_1_normal]
jas0nmillerhttp://twitter.com/jas0nmiller Closed
   down Evening with Engineering and Friends. What a cool group!!! What an
   awesome team!!! ##*WWRUG* https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WWRUG 29
   minutes ago http://twitter.com/jas0nmiller/statuses/5643876891from
   UberTwitter http://ubertwitter.com/



On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Doug Blair d...@blairing.com wrote:

 WWRUG09 is Dan Boom's twitter

 No one seems to know who WWRUG is...




 On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Grooms, Frederick W wrote:

  But for some of us Twitter is blocked

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:13 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: WWRUG 2009

 Hey Claire,

 The reception was fun.  So much fun that I forgot to get a goodie bag.  I
 love being surrounded with Remedy people!

 Are you familiar with Twitter?  Here are few links for updates.

 http://twitter.com/WWRUG
 http://twitter.com/wwrug09
 http://twitter.com/#search?q=WWRUG

 Jason
 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Doug Blair d...@blairing.com wrote:
 Claire,

 I have vicariously checked you in, picked up your vicarious goodie bag,
 and am looking forward to enjoying your beverages (vicariously, of course)
 tonight :-)

 Doug


 Doug

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 claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org wrote:
 Is anyone going to be blogging the WWRUG happenings?  Those of us who are
 stuck at home really want to live vicariously through you!

 Claire




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Re: WWRUG 2009

2009-11-10 Thread Sanford, Claire
awesome!!!  Twittering RUG!!!  I love the internet!!



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Jason Miller
Sent: Tue 11/10/2009 12:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: WWRUG 2009


** Hey Claire,

The reception was fun.  So much fun that I forgot to get a goodie bag.  I love 
being surrounded with Remedy people!

Are you familiar with Twitter?  Here are few links for updates.

http://twitter.com/WWRUG
http://twitter.com/wwrug09
http://twitter.com/#search?q=WWRUG

Jason


On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Doug Blair d...@blairing.com wrote:


Claire,

I have vicariously checked you in, picked up your vicarious goodie bag, 
and am looking forward to enjoying your beverages (vicariously, of course) 
tonight :-)

Doug


Doug

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+1-224-558-5462 


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Is anyone going to be blogging the WWRUG happenings?  Those of 
us who are stuck at home really want to live vicariously through you!

Claire


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Re: WWRUG 2009

2009-11-10 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
But for some of us Twitter is blocked

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:13 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: WWRUG 2009

Hey Claire,

The reception was fun.  So much fun that I forgot to get a goodie bag.  I love 
being surrounded with Remedy people!

Are you familiar with Twitter?  Here are few links for updates.

http://twitter.com/WWRUG
http://twitter.com/wwrug09
http://twitter.com/#search?q=WWRUG

Jason
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Doug Blair d...@blairing.com wrote:
Claire,

I have vicariously checked you in, picked up your vicarious goodie bag, and am 
looking forward to enjoying your beverages (vicariously, of course) tonight :-)

Doug


Doug

--
Doug Blair
Sent from my iPhone, typographic errors likely
+1-224-558-5462


On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Sanford, Claire 
claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org wrote:
Is anyone going to be blogging the WWRUG happenings?  Those of us who are stuck 
at home really want to live vicariously through you!

Claire

 

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Re: WWRUG 2009

2009-11-10 Thread Rick Cook
Well, we are at the opening session now. Joel is doing introductions.
--Original Message--
From: Grooms, Frederick W
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To: Arslist
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Sent: Nov 10, 2009 7:32 AM

But for some of us Twitter is blocked

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:13 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: WWRUG 2009

Hey Claire,

The reception was fun.  So much fun that I forgot to get a goodie bag.  I love 
being surrounded with Remedy people!

Are you familiar with Twitter?  Here are few links for updates.

http://twitter.com/WWRUG
http://twitter.com/wwrug09
http://twitter.com/#search?q=WWRUG

Jason
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Doug Blair d...@blairing.com wrote:
Claire,

I have vicariously checked you in, picked up your vicarious goodie bag, and am 
looking forward to enjoying your beverages (vicariously, of course) tonight :-)

Doug


Doug

--
Doug Blair
Sent from my iPhone, typographic errors likely
+1-224-558-5462


On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Sanford, Claire 
claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org wrote:
Is anyone going to be blogging the WWRUG happenings?  Those of us who are stuck 
at home really want to live vicariously through you!

Claire

 

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Re: WWRUG 2009

2009-11-10 Thread Jason Miller
Darn it!  Sorry Fred.

On 11/10/09, Grooms, Frederick W frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote:
 But for some of us Twitter is blocked

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:13 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: WWRUG 2009

 Hey Claire,

 The reception was fun.  So much fun that I forgot to get a goodie bag.  I
 love being surrounded with Remedy people!

 Are you familiar with Twitter?  Here are few links for updates.

 http://twitter.com/WWRUG
 http://twitter.com/wwrug09
 http://twitter.com/#search?q=WWRUG

 Jason
 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Doug Blair d...@blairing.com wrote:
 Claire,

 I have vicariously checked you in, picked up your vicarious goodie bag, and
 am looking forward to enjoying your beverages (vicariously, of course)
 tonight :-)

 Doug


 Doug

 --
 Doug Blair
 Sent from my iPhone, typographic errors likely
 +1-224-558-5462


 On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Sanford, Claire
 claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org wrote:
 Is anyone going to be blogging the WWRUG happenings?  Those of us who are
 stuck at home really want to live vicariously through you!

 Claire



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Re: WWRUG 2009

2009-11-10 Thread Doug Blair

Claire...

Hello from between sessions in Las Vegas. Actually, it's lunchtime  
here, and I foundf a place where my wireless card works.


Today's MC is Joel Sender - looking pretty spiffy in a tux! This  
morning, after a few technical issues which were ably resolved by Phil  
Bautista (lead geek) Dan Bloom presented a brief history of AR System  
(some of the years were not consecutive) and introduced Doug Mueller.  
Doug's talk centered on the theme that IT is finally realizing that  
the reason we do all these things is to further the business  
objectives of our companies. Most of the businesses where BMC/Remedy  
products are running are really not interested in the actual  
implementation that IT chooses to support the business activities, not  
on the the platform or all those ITIL KPI's - they just want to run  
their business.  Doug also went into some slight detail about things  
that might be present in a future release that will happen sometime  
between now and the next Ice Age (no dates, no promises, as is usual  
with Doug).  Doug also commented on BMC's (firm) decision to retire  
the Windows User Tool client AFTER release 8, and encouraged us to  
begin making the switch to web users now.


I spent the rest of the morning in one of the Kinetic sessions - it's  
pretty impressive stuff - and I plan to catch the what's new and  
tutorials later this week as there are some repeats.


One other thing I will pass along is part of a conversation I  
overheard last night between two prominent Remedy uber-geeks had to do  
with how the 7.5 mid-tier pre-caches form definitions. The fact that  
one of these two wasn't sure about it means that it's an obscure  
enough point to discuss a bit.  The 7.5 mid-tier keeps a cache of  
definitions for each unique combination of permissions. That means  
that if someone has write access to most of the fields on a form and  
another has write access to ALL of the fields on a form, you need two  
caches. Each of caches is defined in the pre-cache XSD file on the mid- 
tier cache config with a section for a user name that is  
representative of that combination of field permissions.


Most people (me included) who set up the new mid-tier see that the  
Demo login is present in the XSD file, and you think that this means  
that it will pre-cache all the forms needed by Demo, and that if your  
login needs one of those forms it will use the copy cached for Demo.  
That's NOT the way it works.  For YOUR login to benefit from the pre- 
cache you need to duplicate that whole section that is Demo's in the  
default file, and set it up for a login that has the EXACT same set of  
permissions that you do. The mid-tier will build a separate cache for  
you and all the logins like yours.


What this means is that you should develop a SMALL NUMBER of  
combinations of permissions (e.g. Help Desk plus Change only, help  
Desk plus Asset only, help desk plus change plus asset) and make sure  
that most of your logins exactly match one of those models.  Those  
logins will all load the pre-cached copy of the forms, and startup  
will appear to be faster for these people.


The pre-cache will be used if the mid-tier server restarts too -  
that's the persistent part of the cache.


That's it for now - lunch is ending and there is a LOT more to learn!

More when I have time

Doug



On Nov 10, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Sanford, Claire wrote:


awesome!!!  Twittering RUG!!!  I love the internet!!



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of  
Jason Miller

Sent: Tue 11/10/2009 12:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: WWRUG 2009


** Hey Claire,

The reception was fun.  So much fun that I forgot to get a goodie  
bag.  I love being surrounded with Remedy people!


Are you familiar with Twitter?  Here are few links for updates.

http://twitter.com/WWRUG
http://twitter.com/wwrug09
http://twitter.com/#search?q=WWRUG

Jason


On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Doug Blair d...@blairing.com wrote:


Claire,

	I have vicariously checked you in, picked up your vicarious goodie  
bag, and am looking forward to enjoying your beverages (vicariously,  
of course) tonight :-)


Doug


Doug

--
Doug Blair
Sent from my iPhone, typographic errors likely
+1-224-558-5462


	On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Sanford, Claire claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org 
 wrote:




		Is anyone going to be blogging the WWRUG happenings?  Those of us  
who are stuck at home really want to live vicariously through you!


Claire

		 
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Re: WWRUG 2009

2009-11-10 Thread Doug Blair

WWRUG09 is Dan Boom's twitter

No one seems to know who WWRUG is...



On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Grooms, Frederick W wrote:


But for some of us Twitter is blocked

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)  
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Jason Miller

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:13 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: WWRUG 2009

Hey Claire,

The reception was fun.  So much fun that I forgot to get a goodie  
bag.  I love being surrounded with Remedy people!


Are you familiar with Twitter?  Here are few links for updates.

http://twitter.com/WWRUG
http://twitter.com/wwrug09
http://twitter.com/#search?q=WWRUG

Jason
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Doug Blair d...@blairing.com wrote:
Claire,

I have vicariously checked you in, picked up your vicarious goodie  
bag, and am looking forward to enjoying your beverages (vicariously,  
of course) tonight :-)


Doug


Doug

--
Doug Blair
Sent from my iPhone, typographic errors likely
+1-224-558-5462


On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Sanford, Claire claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org 
 wrote:
Is anyone going to be blogging the WWRUG happenings?  Those of us  
who are stuck at home really want to live vicariously through you!


Claire



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Re: WWRUG 2009

2009-11-09 Thread Doug Blair

Claire,

I have vicariously checked you in, picked up your vicarious goodie  
bag, and am looking forward to enjoying your beverages (vicariously,  
of course) tonight :-)


Doug


Doug

--
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Sent from my iPhone, typographic errors likely
+1-224-558-5462

On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Sanford, Claire claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org 
 wrote:


Is anyone going to be blogging the WWRUG happenings?  Those of us  
who are stuck at home really want to live vicariously through you!


Claire

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Re: WWRUG 2009

2009-11-09 Thread Jason Miller
Hey Claire,

The reception was fun.  So much fun that I forgot to get a goodie bag.  I
love being surrounded with Remedy people!

Are you familiar with Twitter?  Here are few links for updates.

http://twitter.com/WWRUG
http://twitter.com/wwrug09
http://twitter.com/#search?q=WWRUG

Jason

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Doug Blair d...@blairing.com wrote:

 Claire,

 I have vicariously checked you in, picked up your vicarious goodie bag, and
 am looking forward to enjoying your beverages (vicariously, of course)
 tonight :-)

 Doug


 Doug

 --
 Doug Blair
 Sent from my iPhone, typographic errors likely
 +1-224-558-5462


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 claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org wrote:

  Is anyone going to be blogging the WWRUG happenings?  Those of us who are
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 Claire


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Re: WWRUG 2009 Call For Papers - Link Updated

2009-06-15 Thread Phil Bautista
For those of you who pointed out that the link to the requirements for
submissions need revision, it has now been revised and the link to the
requirements is now available.  Below I am listing the requirements for
those who are waiting to submit their topics.

WWRUG09 Submission Requirements 

Currently our process is that submissions to the WWRUG board for papers to
be considered follow the guidelines using the following data elements in an
email to the address of  mailto:submissi...@wwrug.org
submissi...@wwrug.org: 

1. Firstname (required) 

2. Lastname (required) 

3. Email address (required) 

4. Company Name (optional) 

5. Phone (required) 

6. Address (required) 

7. City (required) 

8. State/Province (required) 

9. Zip/Postal Code (required) 

10. Country (required) 

11. Topic (required) 

12. Abstract (required) 

13. Synopsis (required) 

14. Technical Skill level (None, Entry Level, Intermediate,
Advanced) - Required 

15. Categorization (Technical, Management, Case Study, Vendor,
Other) - Required 

16. Classification (Core ARSystem, ITSM, Custom Application,
Other) - Required 

17. Specification (Integration, Customization, Case Study,
Product, Service, Other) - Required 

18. I have read and agree to the terms posted at
http://www.wwrug.org/wwrug/downloads/AGREEMENT.pdf
http://www.wwrug.org/wwrug/downloads/AGREEMENT.pdf regarding submissions of
data to the WWRUG Conference (Yes, No) 

We are looking forward to getting the review process completed and a list of
sessions topics out for folks to select from!

 

Phil Bautista, Remedy Approved Consultant (RAC)

Bull Creek Data Corporation

512-731-0304

www.bullcreek.com

 

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Phil Bautista
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:33 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: WWRUG 2009 Call For Papers

 

** 

The Board of Directors of WWRUG are pleased to announce the call for papers
to be presented at the World Wide Remedy Users Group
http://www.wwrug.org/wwrug09.html  Conference 2009 to be held in November
of 2009 at the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada from November
9, 2009 through November 13, 2009. A notable difference for this conference
is the addition of a Vendor track in addition to the ever popular Customer
Experience track. Customers with real world experiences they wish to share
with other conference attendees will be presented in the Customer Experience
track while vendors with a product or service that contains value to
conference attendees will be presented in the Vendor track. 

Abstracts for both tracks must be submitted no later than July 15, 2009
review of each submission will be completed by August 15, 2009, and selected
submissions will be notified at that time. For a complete list of
requirements please visit the Submissions Page
http://www.wwrug.org/wwrug/submissions.html . Each synopsis must contain
information of value to AR System developers/users/managers, be capable of
being presented in 45 minutes or less and include time at the end of the
presentation for questions and answers. Presenters are encouraged to show
screen shots where appropriate and incorporate the use of a real time
environment for demonstration purposes if at all possible. 

Abstracts may be submitted along with the presenters contact information to
submissi...@wwrug.org. 

(So, for Kelly and all of the other BMC'ers, Kais, Misi, John, Todd, Alan
and all of the other companies who have asked about and suggested topics so
far, please go to the link below, and ensure you have the content described
in the WWRUG09 http://www.wwrug.org/wwrug/downloads/SUBMISSION.pdf
SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS document then email them to submissi...@wwrug.org.
Sorry to make y'all do this again but we need to normalize the data - don't
laugh to hard )

 

From what I have heard, seen and discussed with those of you so far, this is
going to be a really great event that focuses on what we all want!

 

See you in 'Vegas

 

Phil Bautista, Remedy Approved Consultant (RAC)

Bull Creek Data Corporation

512-731-0304

www.bullcreek.com

 

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Re: WWRUG 2009 Call For Papers - Link Updated

2009-06-15 Thread michael campbell


 Phil, in the past, presenters were always 'comped' their registration fees.  
Are you going to do something like this again?  Reading your Agreement, 
individuals sign over the world to WWRUG with no compensation. I've got a 
couple people who want to present, but if they get sick I am responsible to 
send a person in their place to vegas to do the presentation.this could be 
an issue.

 

Mike

 

 


Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:11:08 -0500
From: bauti...@bullcreek.com
Subject: Re: WWRUG 2009 Call For Papers - Link Updated
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

** 



For those of you who pointed out that the link to the requirements for 
submissions need revision, it has now been revised and the link to the 
requirements is now available.  Below I am listing the requirements for those 
who are waiting to submit their topics.
WWRUG09 Submission Requirements 
Currently our process is that submissions to the WWRUG board for papers to be 
considered follow the guidelines using the following data elements in an email 
to the address of submissi...@wwrug.org: 
1. Firstname (required) 
2. Lastname (required) 
3. Email address (required) 
4. Company Name (optional) 
5. Phone (required) 
6. Address (required) 
7. City (required) 
8. State/Province (required) 
9. Zip/Postal Code (required) 
10. Country (required) 
11. Topic (required) 
12. Abstract (required) 
13. Synopsis (required) 
14. Technical Skill level (None, Entry Level, Intermediate, 
Advanced) - Required 
15. Categorization (Technical, Management, Case Study, Vendor, 
Other) - Required 
16. Classification (Core ARSystem, ITSM, Custom Application, Other) 
- Required 
17. Specification (Integration, Customization, Case Study, Product, 
Service, Other) – Required 
18. I have read and agree to the terms posted at 
http://www.wwrug.org/wwrug/downloads/AGREEMENT.pdf regarding submissions of 
data to the WWRUG Conference (Yes, No) 
We are looking forward to getting the review process completed and a list of 
sessions topics out for folks to select from!
 
Phil Bautista, Remedy Approved Consultant (RAC)
Bull Creek Data Corporation
512-731-0304
www.bullcreek.com
 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Phil Bautista
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:33 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: WWRUG 2009 Call For Papers
 
** 
The Board of Directors of WWRUG are pleased to announce the call for papers to 
be presented at the World Wide Remedy Users Group Conference 2009 to be held in 
November of 2009 at the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada from 
November 9, 2009 through November 13, 2009. A notable difference for this 
conference is the addition of a Vendor track in addition to the ever popular 
Customer Experience track. Customers with real world experiences they wish to 
share with other conference attendees will be presented in the Customer 
Experience track while vendors with a product or service that contains value to 
conference attendees will be presented in the Vendor track. 
Abstracts for both tracks must be submitted no later than July 15, 2009 review 
of each submission will be completed by August 15, 2009, and selected 
submissions will be notified at that time. For a complete list of requirements 
please visit the Submissions Page. Each synopsis must contain information of 
value to AR System developers/users/managers, be capable of being presented in 
45 minutes or less and include time at the end of the presentation for 
questions and answers. Presenters are encouraged to show screen shots where 
appropriate and incorporate the use of a real time environment for 
demonstration purposes if at all possible. 
Abstracts may be submitted along with the presenters contact information to 
submissi...@wwrug.org. 
(So, for Kelly and all of the other BMC’ers, Kais, Misi, John, Todd, Alan and 
all of the other companies who have asked about and suggested topics so far, 
please go to the link below, and ensure you have the content described in the 
“WWRUG09 SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS” document then email them to 
submissi...@wwrug.org.  Sorry to make y’all do this again but we need to 
normalize the data – don’t laugh to hard )
 
From what I have heard, seen and discussed with those of you so far, this is 
going to be a really great event that focuses on what we all want!
 
See you in ‘Vegas
 
Phil Bautista, Remedy Approved Consultant (RAC)
Bull Creek Data Corporation
512-731-0304
www.bullcreek.com
 
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