Re: Why can't I add a menu to this field?

2014-01-04 Thread Tom Worth
Andrew,

In 8.1, you'll need to add the menu to the Floor field in the form 
AST:Attributes.  After you add it there, open up the AST:ComputerSystem form.  
If you have already followed the steps you listed below for creating the 
Overlay on AST:ComputerSystem, you should see the menu attached to the Floor 
field.  However, in the Attributes Properties, it'll still be grayed out as 
those Attributes can only be modified in the form supplying the field to the 
join (AST:Attributes).

If you haven't yet created an Overlay of AST:ComputerSystem and added the Floor 
field to the View Overlay, you won't notice any change at all before you do 
that.

Hope this helps.

Tom Worth
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Subject: Re: Why can't I add a menu to this field?

On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 09:22:27 -0700, LJ LongWing  wrote:

>Andrew,
>In addition to adding an overlay on the Form, you also need to overlay 
>the field, and potentially the view as well.

Indeed. I have done this ... as far as I can tell I have done it properly:

1) add overlay to form
2) create view overlay
3) add 'Page Holder' to view overlay
4) create overlay on 'Page Holder'
5) add 'Floor' field to view overlay
6) create overlay on 'Floor' field
7) save the form
8) close the form
9) re-open the form

after performing the above, many of the display properties for the 'Floor' 
field are unlocked (I can for instance change the display mode, label, etc). 
However, I CANNOT add a menu ... the  'Menu Name' property remains greyed out.

>
>Regarding why you can't attach via workflowyou can only 'change' 
>the menu attached to a field via workflow, you can never add a 
>menu...so if the form doesn't have a menu attached in the first place, you 
>can't add one.

UGH! I'm stuck :-/

thanks though,

-Andy

>
>
>On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Andrew Hicox  wrote:
>
>> ** Hi everyone,
>>
>> I have what will probably turn out to be a stupid question, but I'll 
>> ask anyhow because frankly I'm stumped.
>>
>> Tried this on 7.6.04 sp3 and 8.1 sp2 ... So I suspect BMC must be 
>> doing this on purpose... But this SHOULD be a relatively benign 
>> customization (I think).
>>
>> I want to add a drop down menu to field 26004 ('Floor') on 
>> AST:ComputerSystem. I have created an overlay on the view/field etc 
>> but the 'Menu Name' property remains greyed out.
>>
>> So I thought "ok, I'll just attach it with an active link" ... Well ...
>> When I set up a change field action against that field dev-studio 
>> removes the menu option!
>>
>> What am I missing y'all?
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
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Re: Why can't I add a menu to this field?

2014-01-03 Thread Brittain, Mark
Andy,

This is a join form of the BMC.CORE:BMC_ComputerSystem form.  So you would need 
to add the menu there.

Mark

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Subject: Why can't I add a menu to this field?

** Hi everyone,

I have what will probably turn out to be a stupid question, but I'll ask anyhow 
because frankly I'm stumped.

Tried this on 7.6.04 sp3 and 8.1 sp2 ... So I suspect BMC must be doing this on 
purpose... But this SHOULD be a relatively benign customization (I think).

I want to add a drop down menu to field 26004 ('Floor') on 
AST:ComputerSystem. I have created an overlay on the view/field etc but the 
'Menu Name' property remains greyed out.

So I thought "ok, I'll just attach it with an active link" ... Well ... When I 
set up a change field action against that field dev-studio removes the menu 
option!

What am I missing y'all?

Andy


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Re: Why can't I add a menu to this field?

2014-01-03 Thread Roger Justice
You do not modify the AST join form you have to modify the CMDB form that is 
used to create the join form, which for 7.6.04 should be BaseElement. You will 
not use the Overlay capability since CMDB forms can only be modified by the 
Class Manager or in the base mode. In 8.1 this field is most likely on the 
AST:Attributes from which should be able to be modified using the Overlay 
capability.



-Original Message-
From: Andrew Hicox 
To: arslist 
Sent: Fri, Jan 3, 2014 12:40 pm
Subject: Why can't I add a menu to this field?


** Hi everyone,



I have what will probably turn out to be a stupid question, but I'll ask anyhow 
because frankly I'm stumped.


Tried this on 7.6.04 sp3 and 8.1 sp2 ... So I suspect BMC must be doing this on 
purpose... But this SHOULD be a relatively benign customization (I think). 


I want to add a drop down menu to field 26004 ('Floor') on 
AST:ComputerSystem. I have created an overlay on the view/field etc but the 
'Menu Name' property remains greyed out.


So I thought "ok, I'll just attach it with an active link" ... Well ... When I 
set up a change field action against that field dev-studio removes the menu 
option! 


What am I missing y'all?


Andy




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Re: Why can't I add a menu to this field?

2014-01-03 Thread Andrew Hicox
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 09:22:27 -0700, LJ LongWing  wrote:

>Andrew,
>In addition to adding an overlay on the Form, you also need to overlay the
>field, and potentially the view as well.

Indeed. I have done this ... as far as I can tell I have done it properly:

1) add overlay to form
2) create view overlay
3) add 'Page Holder' to view overlay
4) create overlay on 'Page Holder'
5) add 'Floor' field to view overlay
6) create overlay on 'Floor' field
7) save the form
8) close the form
9) re-open the form

after performing the above, many of the display properties for the 'Floor' 
field are unlocked (I can for instance change the display mode, label, etc). 
However, I CANNOT add a menu ... the  'Menu Name' property remains greyed out.

>
>Regarding why you can't attach via workflowyou can only 'change' the
>menu attached to a field via workflow, you can never add a menu...so if the
>form doesn't have a menu attached in the first place, you can't add one.

UGH! I'm stuck :-/

thanks though,

-Andy

>
>
>On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Andrew Hicox  wrote:
>
>> ** Hi everyone,
>>
>> I have what will probably turn out to be a stupid question, but I'll ask
>> anyhow because frankly I'm stumped.
>>
>> Tried this on 7.6.04 sp3 and 8.1 sp2 ... So I suspect BMC must be doing
>> this on purpose... But this SHOULD be a relatively benign customization (I
>> think).
>>
>> I want to add a drop down menu to field 26004 ('Floor') on
>> AST:ComputerSystem. I have created an overlay on the view/field etc but the
>> 'Menu Name' property remains greyed out.
>>
>> So I thought "ok, I'll just attach it with an active link" ... Well ...
>> When I set up a change field action against that field dev-studio removes
>> the menu option!
>>
>> What am I missing y'all?
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_
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Re: Why can't I add a menu to this field?

2014-01-03 Thread Andrew Hicox
Thanks. Now it makes sense.

What possible harm could there be in the ability to add a drop down menu in the 
GUI on a join form derived from the CMDB forms? OK ... I can see locking out 
things that'd write back to the database like the input length or FTS mode, 
indexes, permissions, etc. 

But why specifically lock it out menus like this? 


BMC


thanks everyone though,

-Andy :-)

On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 13:59:15 -0500, Roger Justice  wrote:

>You do not modify the AST join form you have to modify the CMDB form that is 
>used to create the join form, which for 7.6.04 should be BaseElement. You will 
>not use the Overlay capability since CMDB forms can only be modified by the 
>Class Manager or in the base mode. In 8.1 this field is most likely on the 
>AST:Attributes from which should be able to be modified using the Overlay 
>capability.
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Andrew Hicox 
>To: arslist 
>Sent: Fri, Jan 3, 2014 12:40 pm
>Subject: Why can't I add a menu to this field?
>
>
>** Hi everyone,
>
>
>
>I have what will probably turn out to be a stupid question, but I'll ask 
>anyhow because frankly I'm stumped.
>
>
>Tried this on 7.6.04 sp3 and 8.1 sp2 ... So I suspect BMC must be doing this 
>on purpose... But this SHOULD be a relatively benign customization (I think). 
>
>
>I want to add a drop down menu to field 26004 ('Floor') on 
>AST:ComputerSystem. I have created an overlay on the view/field etc but the 
>'Menu Name' property remains greyed out.
>
>
>So I thought "ok, I'll just attach it with an active link" ... Well ... When I 
>set up a change field action against that field dev-studio removes the menu 
>option! 
>
>
>What am I missing y'all?
>
>
>Andy
>
>
>
>
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Re: Why can't I add a menu to this field?

2014-01-03 Thread LJ LongWing
Andrew,
In addition to adding an overlay on the Form, you also need to overlay the
field, and potentially the view as well.

Regarding why you can't attach via workflowyou can only 'change' the
menu attached to a field via workflow, you can never add a menu...so if the
form doesn't have a menu attached in the first place, you can't add one.


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Andrew Hicox  wrote:

> ** Hi everyone,
>
> I have what will probably turn out to be a stupid question, but I'll ask
> anyhow because frankly I'm stumped.
>
> Tried this on 7.6.04 sp3 and 8.1 sp2 ... So I suspect BMC must be doing
> this on purpose... But this SHOULD be a relatively benign customization (I
> think).
>
> I want to add a drop down menu to field 26004 ('Floor') on
> AST:ComputerSystem. I have created an overlay on the view/field etc but the
> 'Menu Name' property remains greyed out.
>
> So I thought "ok, I'll just attach it with an active link" ... Well ...
> When I set up a change field action against that field dev-studio removes
> the menu option!
>
> What am I missing y'all?
>
> Andy
>
>
> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_

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