Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1

2007-11-23 Thread strauss
If you look at a running 7.x AR server there are quite a few processes
in memory besides the arserver.exe, all of which can have their own
block of up to 2 gb under Win2K x64.  Lots of new java plugin servers,
java itself, etc., as well as Aremail and possibly the SLM Collector or
Flashboards - depends on what you offload to the mid-tier server.  I
have been comparing two AR servers - originally 7.0.01.x and now 7.1,
where the hardware is identical and the back-end db for each is the same
(two identical x64 Win2K3 servers with SQL Server 2005 x64 - all four
servers are 2 x dual-core Opterons with 10 gb RAM), but one AR server is
32-bit Win2K3 Ent and the other is x64.  The one running on x64 seems a
little bit faster at bulk processing incoming data from AIE, otherwise
the client response times have been too close to diferentiate between.
The current plan is to go into production on 7.1 Patch 001 (still
waiting for it) next month IF it fixes all of the issues I have with
7.1; otherwise I may have to punt and drop back to 7.0.01.005.

No, I am not planning to run multiple instances, at least not on the
production server.  We have no budget for more AR server licenses right
now.  That will wait for the day when the powers-that-be force me off HP
hardware onto Dells, and I demand some level of redundancy - having no
confidence in putting one-of-a-kind servers on commodity hardware.

The hardware may be overkill for 32-bit ARS now, but I expect to run it
for several years; the current 5.1.2 system is on the same hardware we
built it on in 2003.  Theoretically the new machines can be upgraded to
7.5 and gain the benefit of x64 support if/when that becomes available.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Remedy Database Administrator
University of North Texas Computing Center
http://remedy.unt.edu/
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michiel Beijen
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:36 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1

Christopher,

If you'll be using a server with 12GB of ram, are you using multiple
instances of AR System on the same server to allocate all your memory?
Since AR System is 32 bit, it could allocate around 2 GB max, right?
Or am I missing something here?
Running multiple instances of AR System in a server group sounds cool
but I guess this will cost you one additional server license per
instance.

Also with Mid-Tier you'll have these kind of issues as BMC currently
does not support 64 bit Java VM's. I guess for mid-tier that you could
get away with installing multiple mid-tiers on one machine and then
putting a load balancer upfront? What was your approach?

BTW I guess/hope ARS 7.5 (Q2/3 2008) will be 64-bit; so then you can use
all your RAM without any problems.

Regards,

Michiel

On Nov 21, 2007 8:17 PM, strauss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> **
>
> The biggest pitfall of using a single instance of a web server (IIS or
> Tomcat) for both mid-tier and any of the other supporting applications

> is the ability of the supporting application to crash the JVM or the 
> entire web server, forcing a restart in either case.  Any restart 
> forces a prefetch, which is an essential step in caching any 
> application on the 7.x mid-tiers, but while it is running you have 
> degraded AR Server performance in any client, especially the mid-tier.

> ITSM 7 takes about 25-35 minutes to prefetch depending on the number 
> of installed modules - you don't want it happening during production 
> hours if you can help it.  If the restart is from a crash, the 7.1 
> persistent prefetch is usually lost and a full prefetch is performed.

> I have all of the web apps installed on my dev web server, and I have
seen several occurrences of this happening there.
>
> As a result, I have split out my other web apps to other machines than

> the mid-tier server for the pre-production environment.  At a minimum 
> I would keep mid-tier separate because of the prefetch issues - it 
> makes too big a difference in initial response time to do without it -

> 1.5 _minutes_ to load the Incident Console the first time versus 12 
> seconds if prefetched.  I still need to move them all to SSL (easy for

> IIS - unknown for Tomcat) like you, but as long as the mid-tier knows 
> what port to access Crystal and RKM on, it can present a united front 
> for those applications.  The application will also use whatever the 
> correct port is for the Kinetic web in its notifications.  A text web 
> page like ours can and will serve up links to each of the apps 
> individually (mid-tier, RKM web, Kinetic web, ARSPerl CGI scripts), 
> but only the mid-tier delivered application (or User Tool) can link
some of them in as integrated pieces.
>
> I'll have to update my postings after I rebuild and nail down all of 

Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1

2007-11-23 Thread Michiel Beijen
Christopher,

If you'll be using a server with 12GB of ram, are you using multiple
instances of AR System on the same server to allocate all your memory?
Since AR System is 32 bit, it could allocate around 2 GB max, right?
Or am I missing something here?
Running multiple instances of AR System in a server group sounds cool
but I guess this will cost you one additional server license per
instance.

Also with Mid-Tier you'll have these kind of issues as BMC currently
does not support 64 bit Java VM's. I guess for mid-tier that you could
get away with installing multiple mid-tiers on one machine and then
putting a load balancer upfront? What was your approach?

BTW I guess/hope ARS 7.5 (Q2/3 2008) will be 64-bit; so then you can
use all your RAM without any problems.

Regards,

Michiel

On Nov 21, 2007 8:17 PM, strauss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> **
>
> The biggest pitfall of using a single instance of a web server (IIS or
> Tomcat) for both mid-tier and any of the other supporting applications is
> the ability of the supporting application to crash the JVM or the entire web
> server, forcing a restart in either case.  Any restart forces a prefetch,
> which is an essential step in caching any application on the 7.x mid-tiers,
> but while it is running you have degraded AR Server performance in any
> client, especially the mid-tier.  ITSM 7 takes about 25-35 minutes to
> prefetch depending on the number of installed modules - you don't want it
> happening during production hours if you can help it.  If the restart is
> from a crash, the 7.1 persistent prefetch is usually lost and a full
> prefetch is performed.  I have all of the web apps installed on my dev web
> server, and I have seen several occurrences of this happening there.
>
> As a result, I have split out my other web apps to other machines than the
> mid-tier server for the pre-production environment.  At a minimum I would
> keep mid-tier separate because of the prefetch issues - it makes too big a
> difference in initial response time to do without it - 1.5 _minutes_ to load
> the Incident Console the first time versus 12 seconds if prefetched.  I
> still need to move them all to SSL (easy for IIS - unknown for Tomcat) like
> you, but as long as the mid-tier knows what port to access Crystal and RKM
> on, it can present a united front for those applications.  The application
> will also use whatever the correct port is for the Kinetic web in its
> notifications.  A text web page like ours can and will serve up links to
> each of the apps individually (mid-tier, RKM web, Kinetic web, ARSPerl CGI
> scripts), but only the mid-tier delivered application (or User Tool) can
> link some of them in as integrated pieces.
>
> I'll have to update my postings after I rebuild and nail down all of the
> server configurations for production - just finished putting a new DL380 G5
> 8-core 12 gb RAM server in the rack to put the AR server on - already have
> one just like it for mid-tier.  I still have not decided whether to build
> out with 7.1 (awaiting Patch 001) or bail out and use 7.0.01.005 instead
> except for mid-tier.  There are way too many 7.1 specific problems right now
> with the User Tool, Admin Tool, Import Tool and Data Management application
> (just released one), the CCMCalendar, and integrations from ARSPerl and
> Kinetic Calendar for my taste.
>
>
> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
> Call Tracking Administration Manager
> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
> http://itsm.unt.edu/
>
>
>
>  
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:24 AM
>
>
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1
>
>
>
> **
>
>
> Hi Christopher,
>
>
>
> On a bit different note. I have been following your posts (or at least
> trying to) throughout the year regarding all of the different
> requirements/configurations for various apps that require a JSP engine.  We
> have a number of the same apps as you:
>
>
>
> MT 7.0.01 (7.1 soon)
>
> Crystal Server XI
>
> Kinetic Survey (Lite)
>
> RKM
>
>
>
> Out of those we are currently only using MT on IIS with SerletExec 5.0.0.10
> and are looking to implement Crystal Server next. We have been planning on
> removing IIS and using Tomcat for the web server and application server when
> we move to MT 7.1 since Crystal Server is not supported with ServletExec.
>
>
>
> In an email from you on 7/18/07 with the subject "Crystal Report Server XI
> vs Business Objects Enterprise XI CMS & Tomcat question. (UNCLASSIFIED)" you
> mentioned us

Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1

2007-11-21 Thread Jason Miller
Thanks for all of the info. We are on ITSM 6 so our prefetch isn't as bad
but I would still like to avoid it during production hours.

 

I will have to try out running multiple web servers instances and see how it
goes. I am almost tempted to leave IIS/ServletExec as the front since it is
already configured with SSL and PKI and run an instance of Tomcat for the
other apps but I certainly would like the performance boost from running MT
on pure Tomcat.

 

I'll keep a lookout for your updated postings.

 

Has anybody heard a timeframe for 7.1 patch 1?

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of strauss
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:18 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1

 

** 

The biggest pitfall of using a single instance of a web server (IIS or
Tomcat) for both mid-tier and any of the other supporting applications is
the ability of the supporting application to crash the JVM or the entire web
server, forcing a restart in either case.  Any restart forces a prefetch,
which is an essential step in caching any application on the 7.x mid-tiers,
but while it is running you have degraded AR Server performance in any
client, especially the mid-tier.  ITSM 7 takes about 25-35 minutes to
prefetch depending on the number of installed modules - you don't want it
happening during production hours if you can help it.  If the restart is
from a crash, the 7.1 persistent prefetch is usually lost and a full
prefetch is performed.  I have all of the web apps installed on my dev web
server, and I have seen several occurrences of this happening there.

 

As a result, I have split out my other web apps to other machines than the
mid-tier server for the pre-production environment.  At a minimum I would
keep mid-tier separate because of the prefetch issues - it makes too big a
difference in initial response time to do without it - 1.5 _minutes_ to load
the Incident Console the first time versus 12 seconds if prefetched.  I
still need to move them all to SSL (easy for IIS - unknown for Tomcat) like
you, but as long as the mid-tier knows what port to access Crystal and RKM
on, it can present a united front for those applications.  The application
will also use whatever the correct port is for the Kinetic web in its
notifications.  A text web page like ours can and will serve up links to
each of the apps individually (mid-tier, RKM web, Kinetic web, ARSPerl CGI
scripts), but only the mid-tier delivered application (or User Tool) can
link some of them in as integrated pieces.

 

I'll have to update my postings after I rebuild and nail down all of the
server configurations for production - just finished putting a new DL380 G5
8-core 12 gb RAM server in the rack to put the AR server on - already have
one just like it for mid-tier.  I still have not decided whether to build
out with 7.1 (awaiting Patch 001) or bail out and use 7.0.01.005 instead
except for mid-tier.  There are way too many 7.1 specific problems right now
with the User Tool, Admin Tool, Import Tool and Data Management application
(just released one), the CCMCalendar, and integrations from ARSPerl and
Kinetic Calendar for my taste.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/ 

 

 

  _  

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:24 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1

** 

Hi Christopher,

 

On a bit different note. I have been following your posts (or at least
trying to) throughout the year regarding all of the different
requirements/configurations for various apps that require a JSP engine.  We
have a number of the same apps as you:

 

MT 7.0.01 (7.1 soon)

Crystal Server XI

Kinetic Survey (Lite)

RKM

 

Out of those we are currently only using MT on IIS with SerletExec 5.0.0.10
and are looking to implement Crystal Server next. We have been planning on
removing IIS and using Tomcat for the web server and application server when
we move to MT 7.1 since Crystal Server is not supported with ServletExec.

 

In an email from you on 7/18/07 with the subject "Crystal Report Server XI
vs Business Objects Enterprise XI CMS & Tomcat question. (UNCLASSIFIED)" you
mentioned using IIS and .NET for Crystal Server and Tomcat for MT. That
sounds like an interesting solution but to make our setup more complicated
everything customer facing has to be over SSL/443 and require a PKI
certificate from the user before any access is granted. I am figuring that
will make using IIS and Tomcat on the same machine kind of hard.  Also the
idea of using separate Tomcat instances is interesting (apparently almost
necessary with MT and RKM) but then we are up against the requirement to use
port 443 a

Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1

2007-11-21 Thread strauss
The biggest pitfall of using a single instance of a web server (IIS or
Tomcat) for both mid-tier and any of the other supporting applications
is the ability of the supporting application to crash the JVM or the
entire web server, forcing a restart in either case.  Any restart forces
a prefetch, which is an essential step in caching any application on the
7.x mid-tiers, but while it is running you have degraded AR Server
performance in any client, especially the mid-tier.  ITSM 7 takes about
25-35 minutes to prefetch depending on the number of installed modules -
you don't want it happening during production hours if you can help it.
If the restart is from a crash, the 7.1 persistent prefetch is usually
lost and a full prefetch is performed.  I have all of the web apps
installed on my dev web server, and I have seen several occurrences of
this happening there.
 
As a result, I have split out my other web apps to other machines than
the mid-tier server for the pre-production environment.  At a minimum I
would keep mid-tier separate because of the prefetch issues - it makes
too big a difference in initial response time to do without it - 1.5
_minutes_ to load the Incident Console the first time versus 12 seconds
if prefetched.  I still need to move them all to SSL (easy for IIS -
unknown for Tomcat) like you, but as long as the mid-tier knows what
port to access Crystal and RKM on, it can present a united front for
those applications.  The application will also use whatever the correct
port is for the Kinetic web in its notifications.  A text web page like
ours can and will serve up links to each of the apps individually
(mid-tier, RKM web, Kinetic web, ARSPerl CGI scripts), but only the
mid-tier delivered application (or User Tool) can link some of them in
as integrated pieces.
 
I'll have to update my postings after I rebuild and nail down all of the
server configurations for production - just finished putting a new DL380
G5 8-core 12 gb RAM server in the rack to put the AR server on - already
have one just like it for mid-tier.  I still have not decided whether to
build out with 7.1 (awaiting Patch 001) or bail out and use 7.0.01.005
instead except for mid-tier.  There are way too many 7.1 specific
problems right now with the User Tool, Admin Tool, Import Tool and Data
Management application (just released one), the CCMCalendar, and
integrations from ARSPerl and Kinetic Calendar for my taste.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/ 

 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:24 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
    Subject: Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1


** 

Hi Christopher,

 

On a bit different note. I have been following your posts (or at
least trying to) throughout the year regarding all of the different
requirements/configurations for various apps that require a JSP engine.
We have a number of the same apps as you:

 

MT 7.0.01 (7.1 soon)

Crystal Server XI

Kinetic Survey (Lite)

RKM

 

Out of those we are currently only using MT on IIS with
SerletExec 5.0.0.10 and are looking to implement Crystal Server next. We
have been planning on removing IIS and using Tomcat for the web server
and application server when we move to MT 7.1 since Crystal Server is
not supported with ServletExec.

 

In an email from you on 7/18/07 with the subject "Crystal Report
Server XI vs Business Objects Enterprise XI CMS & Tomcat question.
(UNCLASSIFIED)" you mentioned using IIS and .NET for Crystal Server and
Tomcat for MT. That sounds like an interesting solution but to make our
setup more complicated everything customer facing has to be over SSL/443
and require a PKI certificate from the user before any access is
granted. I am figuring that will make using IIS and Tomcat on the same
machine kind of hard.  Also the idea of using separate Tomcat instances
is interesting (apparently almost necessary with MT and RKM) but then we
are up against the requirement to use port 443 again.

 

Is there some magical way to run different app servers on
different ports and pass all of the user interfaces through one main web
server on port 443?

 

It looks like the packaged Tomcat 5.5.17 with MT will also run
RKM and Kinetic Survey, does this sound right? 

 

I haven't been able to find any place that states Crystal Server
is supported on Tomcat 5.5, only up to 5.0. Is the situation that there
is still no common application server for all of these products? 

 

I am really hoping to keep our server count to a minimum. Do I
have any hope of utilizing 1 server for all of these app

Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1

2007-11-21 Thread Jason Miller
Hi Christopher,

 

On a bit different note. I have been following your posts (or at least
trying to) throughout the year regarding all of the different
requirements/configurations for various apps that require a JSP engine.  We
have a number of the same apps as you:

 

MT 7.0.01 (7.1 soon)

Crystal Server XI

Kinetic Survey (Lite)

RKM

 

Out of those we are currently only using MT on IIS with SerletExec 5.0.0.10
and are looking to implement Crystal Server next. We have been planning on
removing IIS and using Tomcat for the web server and application server when
we move to MT 7.1 since Crystal Server is not supported with ServletExec.

 

In an email from you on 7/18/07 with the subject "Crystal Report Server XI
vs Business Objects Enterprise XI CMS & Tomcat question. (UNCLASSIFIED)" you
mentioned using IIS and .NET for Crystal Server and Tomcat for MT. That
sounds like an interesting solution but to make our setup more complicated
everything customer facing has to be over SSL/443 and require a PKI
certificate from the user before any access is granted. I am figuring that
will make using IIS and Tomcat on the same machine kind of hard.  Also the
idea of using separate Tomcat instances is interesting (apparently almost
necessary with MT and RKM) but then we are up against the requirement to use
port 443 again.

 

Is there some magical way to run different app servers on different ports
and pass all of the user interfaces through one main web server on port 443?

 

It looks like the packaged Tomcat 5.5.17 with MT will also run RKM and
Kinetic Survey, does this sound right? 

 

I haven't been able to find any place that states Crystal Server is
supported on Tomcat 5.5, only up to 5.0. Is the situation that there is
still no common application server for all of these products? 

 

I am really hoping to keep our server count to a minimum. Do I have any hope
of utilizing 1 server for all of these apps? Do you have any suggestions as
how to utilize all of these products with minimal servers (physical and
virtual)?

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of strauss
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:28 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1

 

** 

It is still bundling Tomcat 5.5.17, but you should use JRE 1.5.0_12 for all
things 7.1.  Beware the 7.1 mid-tier installer on Windows x64 - it is too
stupid to know that the Apache Tomcat install should go in the Program Files
(x86) directory on a fresh install, but it runs anyway.  This was not a
problem on 7.0.01.x

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/ 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:19 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1

** 

**

Can anybody out there tell me the version of Tomcat (web server and JSP
engine if they are different) that is bundled with MT 7.1?

 

Thanks,

Jason

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Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1

2007-11-21 Thread Hugo Visser
Tomcat does not require the SDK, the JRE is sufficient
(http://apache.dsmirror.nl/tomcat/tomcat-5/v5.5.25/RELEASE-NOTES). The
BMC installer however does require a SDK present. Maybe that's a
left-over from when they bundled ServletExec. You could also call it a
bug in the installer if you like.

Hugo

On Nov 21, 2007 3:19 PM, Mohan Panchangmath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We tried with JRE 5 aka 1.5 initially but the 7.1
> installer did not detect JRE and gave some SDK related
> error. On installing SDK 1.5 , the midtier
> installation along with bundled in tomcat ran fine.
>
> Has anybody  seen the same issue?
>
> Thanks,
> Mohan
>
>
> --- Misi Mladoniczky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Compatibility Matrix for AR System 7.1 says that
> > Java SDK 1_5_0_12 or
> > higher is needed. Does it work with JRE only?
> >
> >  Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB,
> > http://www.rrr.se
> >
> > > Thanks for the info and the heads up regarding
> > x64.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Action Request System discussion
> > list(ARSList)
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of strauss
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:28 PM
> > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > > Subject: Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > **
> > >
> > > It is still bundling Tomcat 5.5.17, but you should
> > use JRE 1.5.0_12 for
> > > all
> > > things 7.1.  Beware the 7.1 mid-tier installer on
> > Windows x64 - it is too
> > > stupid to know that the Apache Tomcat install
> > should go in the Program
> > > Files
> > > (x86) directory on a fresh install, but it runs
> > anyway.  This was not a
> > > problem on 7.0.01.x
> > >
> > > Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
> > > Call Tracking Administration Manager
> > > University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
> > > http://itsm.unt.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > Miller
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:19 PM
> > > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > > Subject: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1
> > >
> > > **
> > >
> > > **
> > >
> > > Can anybody out there tell me the version of
> > Tomcat (web server and JSP
> > > engine if they are different) that is bundled with
> > MT 7.1?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jason
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Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1

2007-11-21 Thread Mohan Panchangmath
Hi,

We tried with JRE 5 aka 1.5 initially but the 7.1
installer did not detect JRE and gave some SDK related
error. On installing SDK 1.5 , the midtier
installation along with bundled in tomcat ran fine.

Has anybody  seen the same issue?

Thanks,
Mohan

--- Misi Mladoniczky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The Compatibility Matrix for AR System 7.1 says that
> Java SDK 1_5_0_12 or
> higher is needed. Does it work with JRE only?
> 
>  Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB,
> http://www.rrr.se
> 
> > Thanks for the info and the heads up regarding 
> x64.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Action Request System discussion
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> > It is still bundling Tomcat 5.5.17, but you should
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> > things 7.1.  Beware the 7.1 mid-tier installer on
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> > Can anybody out there tell me the version of
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Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1

2007-11-21 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

The Compatibility Matrix for AR System 7.1 says that Java SDK 1_5_0_12 or
higher is needed. Does it work with JRE only?

 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se

> Thanks for the info and the heads up regarding  x64.
>
>
>
> Jason
>
>
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>
>
> **
>
> It is still bundling Tomcat 5.5.17, but you should use JRE 1.5.0_12 for
> all
> things 7.1.  Beware the 7.1 mid-tier installer on Windows x64 - it is too
> stupid to know that the Apache Tomcat install should go in the Program
> Files
> (x86) directory on a fresh install, but it runs anyway.  This was not a
> problem on 7.0.01.x
>
> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
> Call Tracking Administration Manager
> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
> http://itsm.unt.edu/
>
>
>
>
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>
> **
>
> Can anybody out there tell me the version of Tomcat (web server and JSP
> engine if they are different) that is bundled with MT 7.1?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
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Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1

2007-11-20 Thread Jason Miller
Thanks for the info and the heads up regarding  x64.

 

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It is still bundling Tomcat 5.5.17, but you should use JRE 1.5.0_12 for all
things 7.1.  Beware the 7.1 mid-tier installer on Windows x64 - it is too
stupid to know that the Apache Tomcat install should go in the Program Files
(x86) directory on a fresh install, but it runs anyway.  This was not a
problem on 7.0.01.x

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/ 

 

 

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Can anybody out there tell me the version of Tomcat (web server and JSP
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Re: Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1

2007-11-20 Thread strauss
It is still bundling Tomcat 5.5.17, but you should use JRE 1.5.0_12 for
all things 7.1.  Beware the 7.1 mid-tier installer on Windows x64 - it
is too stupid to know that the Apache Tomcat install should go in the
Program Files (x86) directory on a fresh install, but it runs anyway.
This was not a problem on 7.0.01.x

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/ 

 


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Can anybody out there tell me the version of Tomcat (web server
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Version of Tomcat with Mid-Tier 7.1

2007-11-20 Thread Jason Miller
**

Can anybody out there tell me the version of Tomcat (web server and JSP
engine if they are different) that is bundled with MT 7.1?

 

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