When do Arsystem Email Messages get created?

2007-04-04 Thread Dwayne Martin
Hi Everyone,

We have a test server (ARS 7.01 patch 1, Red-Hat Linux).  We
want to know when this system WOULD send out email if it were
a live system, but we don't want it to actually do it. So we
haven't installed the Email Engine because we don't want it
sending out test messages to customers.

According to the Email Engine manual, the Notify action of a
filter or escalation creates an Arsystem Email Messages
entry, which the Email Engine reads.  In our test system
filters do notifications, and the filter log shows an email
being sent, but no Arsystem Email Messages entry gets created.
 Does the creation of this entry depend on the existence of an
Email Engine, or is something else at work?

The larger question is, How can we set up a test system so
that we can monitor the sending of emails, without them
actually going to people?

Dwayne Martin
Computing Support
James Madison University

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Re: When do Arsystem Email Messages get created?

2007-04-04 Thread Roger Justice
Do not set up the Outgoing mailbox and no email will be sent. 
 
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Hi Everyone,

We have a test server (ARS 7.01 patch 1, Red-Hat Linux).  We
want to know when this system WOULD send out email if it were
a live system, but we don't want it to actually do it. So we
haven't installed the Email Engine because we don't want it
sending out test messages to customers.

According to the Email Engine manual, the Notify action of a
filter or escalation creates an Arsystem Email Messages
entry, which the Email Engine reads.  In our test system
filters do notifications, and the filter log shows an email
being sent, but no Arsystem Email Messages entry gets created.
 Does the creation of this entry depend on the existence of an
Email Engine, or is something else at work?

The larger question is, How can we set up a test system so
that we can monitor the sending of emails, without them
actually going to people?

Dwayne Martin
Computing Support
James Madison University

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Re: When do Arsystem Email Messages get created?

2007-04-04 Thread Ron Legters
This may not be the most elegant way, but I just had my email admins
create a dummy account, then changed the e-mail address of every
'person' on my test system to be that dummy account. I added the dummy
account to my Outlook profile, so I can easily monitor the messages. The
only downside is that I can't tell exactly who the system was sending
the message to, once I receive it.

Thanks, 
Ron Legters 
Tools Administrator 
Data  Systems Services
Univar USA Inc.

www.univarusa.com



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Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:29 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: When do Arsystem Email Messages get created?

Hi Everyone,

We have a test server (ARS 7.01 patch 1, Red-Hat Linux).  We want to
know when this system WOULD send out email if it were a live system, but
we don't want it to actually do it. So we haven't installed the Email
Engine because we don't want it sending out test messages to customers.

According to the Email Engine manual, the Notify action of a filter or
escalation creates an Arsystem Email Messages
entry, which the Email Engine reads.  In our test system filters do
notifications, and the filter log shows an email being sent, but no
Arsystem Email Messages entry gets created.
 Does the creation of this entry depend on the existence of an Email
Engine, or is something else at work?

The larger question is, How can we set up a test system so that we can
monitor the sending of emails, without them actually going to people?

Dwayne Martin
Computing Support
James Madison University


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Re: When do Arsystem Email Messages get created?

2007-04-04 Thread David Yearsley
We had the post office create a test/dummy account to send the emails to and 
then I put a filter, that runs on Submit,  on the AR Email Message form that 
moves the address in the To field to the From field (So we know who was 
supposed to get the message) and the set the test/dummy email address in the 
To field. This allows us to use the profile information with no changes and 
still monitor emails. 
 
The only con is you have to remember not to move the filter to production. (I 
did this ONCE.)

 Ron Legters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04, 2007 10:21 AM 
This may not be the most elegant way, but I just had my email admins
create a dummy account, then changed the e-mail address of every
'person' on my test system to be that dummy account. I added the dummy
account to my Outlook profile, so I can easily monitor the messages. The
only downside is that I can't tell exactly who the system was sending
the message to, once I receive it.

Thanks, 
Ron Legters 
Tools Administrator 
Data  Systems Services
Univar USA Inc.

www.univarusa.com 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dwayne Martin
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:29 AM
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Subject: When do Arsystem Email Messages get created?

Hi Everyone,

We have a test server (ARS 7.01 patch 1, Red-Hat Linux).  We want to
know when this system WOULD send out email if it were a live system, but
we don't want it to actually do it. So we haven't installed the Email
Engine because we don't want it sending out test messages to customers.

According to the Email Engine manual, the Notify action of a filter or
escalation creates an Arsystem Email Messages
entry, which the Email Engine reads.  In our test system filters do
notifications, and the filter log shows an email being sent, but no
Arsystem Email Messages entry gets created.
Does the creation of this entry depend on the existence of an Email
Engine, or is something else at work?

The larger question is, How can we set up a test system so that we can
monitor the sending of emails, without them actually going to people?

Dwayne Martin
Computing Support
James Madison University


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Re: When do Arsystem Email Messages get created?

2007-04-04 Thread Clary, Bill
Dwayne;
  You can make a Filter on the Email form that on Submit Takes the info
in the To field and adds it to the Body at the top and then sets the
To field with a email address that you montor.
  This would allow all workflow to work as designed and you can see who
it would go to but it would really go to the address you set up. You
just use this Filter on your test machine and NEVER put it on your
production machine.

Bill Clary
Remedy Developer, Tech Solutions
Fidelity Information Services



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 Hi Everyone,
 
 We have a test server (ARS 7.01 patch 1, Red-Hat Linux).  We
 want to know when this system WOULD send out email if it were
 a live system, but we don't want it to actually do it. So we
 haven't installed the Email Engine because we don't want it
 sending out test messages to customers.
 
 According to the Email Engine manual, the Notify action of a
 filter or escalation creates an Arsystem Email Messages
 entry, which the Email Engine reads.  In our test system
 filters do notifications, and the filter log shows an email
 being sent, but no Arsystem Email Messages entry gets created.
  Does the creation of this entry depend on the existence of an
 Email Engine, or is something else at work?
 
 The larger question is, How can we set up a test system so
 that we can monitor the sending of emails, without them
 actually going to people?
 
 Dwayne Martin
 Computing Support
 James Madison University
 

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Re: When do Arsystem Email Messages get created?

2007-04-04 Thread Reiser, John J
Ron and Dwayne,

That is a good way to do it. So is Roger's suggestion of not setting up
the Outgoing mailbox.
To find out for who the record was intended you can add the $Assigned
to$ value to the subject line of the Notification action and use the
dummy email address. 
This will help you verify if your workflow fires for the right user,
group or other condition.
There is also a setting in the Mailbox configuration that deletes
outgoing records after they have been sent. So check that option if you
set everything up and still don't see records in the AR System Email
Messages form.
HTH,

John J. Reiser
Software Development Analyst
Remedy Administrator/Developer
Lockheed Martin - MS2
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Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 
 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:21 PM
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Subject: Re: When do Arsystem Email Messages get created?

This may not be the most elegant way, but I just had my email admins
create a dummy account, then changed the e-mail address of every
'person' on my test system to be that dummy account. I added the dummy
account to my Outlook profile, so I can easily monitor the messages. The
only downside is that I can't tell exactly who the system was sending
the message to, once I receive it.

Thanks,
Ron Legters
Tools Administrator
Data  Systems Services
Univar USA Inc.

www.univarusa.com



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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dwayne Martin
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:29 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: When do Arsystem Email Messages get created?

Hi Everyone,

We have a test server (ARS 7.01 patch 1, Red-Hat Linux).  We want to
know when this system WOULD send out email if it were a live system, but
we don't want it to actually do it. So we haven't installed the Email
Engine because we don't want it sending out test messages to customers.

According to the Email Engine manual, the Notify action of a filter or
escalation creates an Arsystem Email Messages
entry, which the Email Engine reads.  In our test system filters do
notifications, and the filter log shows an email being sent, but no
Arsystem Email Messages entry gets created.
 Does the creation of this entry depend on the existence of an Email
Engine, or is something else at work?

The larger question is, How can we set up a test system so that we can
monitor the sending of emails, without them actually going to people?

Dwayne Martin
Computing Support
James Madison University


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Re: When do Arsystem Email Messages get created?

2007-04-04 Thread Dwayne Martin
A big THANK YOU! to all who responded.

It sounds like simply not creating the outgoing mailbox entry
is the simplest solution.  But I could also have a filter
change the to to my email address and I would get all the
test messages.

Two great ideas.

Thanks
Dwayne

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Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 11:49:06 -0600
From: Durrant, Michael M. - ITSD [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: Re: When do Arsystem Email Messages get created?  
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

If I recall correctly, I disabled my outgoing email account
in the
Mailbox configuration form.  This would generate the messages
in the
Email Messages form but it wouldn't send them out. 


Michael Durrant
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Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:12 AM
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Subject: Re: When do Arsystem Email Messages get created?

Dwayne;
  You can make a Filter on the Email form that on Submit
Takes the info
in the To field and adds it to the Body at the top and then
sets the
To field with a email address that you montor.
  This would allow all workflow to work as designed and you
can see who
it would go to but it would really go to the address you set
up. You
just use this Filter on your test machine and NEVER put it
on your
production machine.

Bill Clary
Remedy Developer, Tech Solutions
Fidelity Information Services



Dwayne Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi Everyone,
 
 We have a test server (ARS 7.01 patch 1, Red-Hat Linux). 
We want to 
 know when this system WOULD send out email if it were a
live system, 
 but we don't want it to actually do it. So we haven't
installed the 
 Email Engine because we don't want it sending out test
messages to 
 customers.
 
 According to the Email Engine manual, the Notify action
of a filter 
 or escalation creates an Arsystem Email Messages
 entry, which the Email Engine reads.  In our test system
filters do 
 notifications, and the filter log shows an email being
sent, but no 
 Arsystem Email Messages entry gets created.
  Does the creation of this entry depend on the existence of
an Email 
 Engine, or is something else at work?
 
 The larger question is, How can we set up a test system so
that we can

 monitor the sending of emails, without them actually going
to people?
 
 Dwayne Martin
 Computing Support
 James Madison University
 


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