AW: change location of a field
Hi Listers, I think we should try it with remedy-features...I will create a second field, locate it at the right place and hide it. With active link I will show that field and hide the other one... Javascript might works as well...but this seems to be a dirty solution...:) Thanks a lot! Regards Christoph Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] Im Auftrag von Andrew Hicox Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. April 2014 22:35 An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Betreff: Re: change location of a field ** It is technically possible to zoom fields around the screen with active links using clever JavaScript (jquery works really well for this given that the id of the div containing the field is usually the fieldid). However I'm rather certain this kinda hack voids your warranty so to speak when calling up support. Though Doug brings up a lot of good points about why doing things like this are, in general, a bad idea ... in my (now considerable) experience doing remedy stuff on midtier, it's been a request that continually pops up again and again. In my opinion, the reason it is a recurring issue, is that from an end user's perspective, remedy is now a website ... except that it isn't ... because it's GUI breaks nearly every expectation a user might have for interacting with a website. Which is why people continually ask us developers to try and make it behave more like a website ... And why we start thinking of these ridiculous JavaScript hacks and such. Remedy needs a better framework for defining web GUIs. Just my two cents on it Andy On Wednesday, April 2, 2014, Mueller, Doug doug_muel...@bmc.commailto:doug_muel...@bmc.com wrote: Christoph, As is the case with many questions of this type, describing the problem you are trying to solve would really help. Several answers... No, it is not possible to change x,y coordinates or height or width of a field through active links. Fields moving around on the screen is confusing and disconcerting to most users. No support for this has been added. Now, if what you are looking for is areas of the screen to come and go and the screen to shift for new areas, then yes, this is possible. You use panels and you put fields on various panels and when a panel is closed fields below it are shifted up into the space that is now closed. So, this is one type of field movement and one that is expected by users. Or, if there is some specific reason for some condition to have a field move and it is something that the users would not be confused by, then the best approach is the one that is mentioned below. Create a new display only field of the same type but with the new x,y, witdh, height, and whatever else characteristics. Then, you use active links to 1) Maintain the same value in both fields. If either field has the value changed, it is written to the other field. Maybe something on loss of focus that just writes the value to the other field and put this on each copy. The only issue here is on the Query screen where you need to make sure if you use the Advanced Query bar, you reference the REAL field and not the copy. In QBE you are OK as display only fields are ignored and the two fields are in sync. 2) Add workflow to hide one field and show the other. Make sure that they are both not visible -- unless you are trying to have the SAME value show in two places which is actually another requirement and it would be handled using this same technique. Those are your options. Dynamic moving of fields is not something that is planned for and has a lot of potential for field overlaps and confusion as a general principle. There must be a clear need and clear value for the concept and then you would use one of the techniques above. I hope this helps, Doug Mueller -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGjavascript:;] On Behalf Of pritch Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:20 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGjavascript:; Subject: Re: change location of a field I actually had a similar requirement - made a second field and kept them in sync - only one visible at a time and if one was updated I did a setfield to keep the other updated. - Original Message - From: Mike Tomasiewicz (ConAgra Foods) mike.tomasiew...@conagrafoods.comjavascript:; To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGjavascript:; Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:12:33 AM Subject: Re: change location of a field ** It might be possible to copy the form, organize it appropriately, name it, and invoke it with an active link of some sort, however that seems like a lot of work, and depending on the requirements may be overkill. My advice is JUST SAY NO. :-D .: Mike T :. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGjavascript:;] On Behalf Of Raj Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 1:13 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGjavascript:; Subject: Re
Re: change location of a field
It is technically possible to zoom fields around the screen with active links using clever JavaScript (jquery works really well for this given that the id of the div containing the field is usually the fieldid). However I'm rather certain this kinda hack voids your warranty so to speak when calling up support. Though Doug brings up a lot of good points about why doing things like this are, in general, a bad idea ... in my (now considerable) experience doing remedy stuff on midtier, it's been a request that continually pops up again and again. In my opinion, the reason it is a recurring issue, is that from an end user's perspective, remedy is now a website ... except that it isn't ... because it's GUI breaks nearly every expectation a user might have for interacting with a website. Which is why people continually ask us developers to try and make it behave more like a website ... And why we start thinking of these ridiculous JavaScript hacks and such. Remedy needs a better framework for defining web GUIs. Just my two cents on it Andy On Wednesday, April 2, 2014, Mueller, Doug doug_muel...@bmc.com wrote: Christoph, As is the case with many questions of this type, describing the problem you are trying to solve would really help. Several answers... No, it is not possible to change x,y coordinates or height or width of a field through active links. Fields moving around on the screen is confusing and disconcerting to most users. No support for this has been added. Now, if what you are looking for is areas of the screen to come and go and the screen to shift for new areas, then yes, this is possible. You use panels and you put fields on various panels and when a panel is closed fields below it are shifted up into the space that is now closed. So, this is one type of field movement and one that is expected by users. Or, if there is some specific reason for some condition to have a field move and it is something that the users would not be confused by, then the best approach is the one that is mentioned below. Create a new display only field of the same type but with the new x,y, witdh, height, and whatever else characteristics. Then, you use active links to 1) Maintain the same value in both fields. If either field has the value changed, it is written to the other field. Maybe something on loss of focus that just writes the value to the other field and put this on each copy. The only issue here is on the Query screen where you need to make sure if you use the Advanced Query bar, you reference the REAL field and not the copy. In QBE you are OK as display only fields are ignored and the two fields are in sync. 2) Add workflow to hide one field and show the other. Make sure that they are both not visible -- unless you are trying to have the SAME value show in two places which is actually another requirement and it would be handled using this same technique. Those are your options. Dynamic moving of fields is not something that is planned for and has a lot of potential for field overlaps and confusion as a general principle. There must be a clear need and clear value for the concept and then you would use one of the techniques above. I hope this helps, Doug Mueller -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG javascript:;] On Behalf Of pritch Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:20 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG javascript:; Subject: Re: change location of a field I actually had a similar requirement - made a second field and kept them in sync - only one visible at a time and if one was updated I did a setfield to keep the other updated. - Original Message - From: Mike Tomasiewicz (ConAgra Foods) mike.tomasiew...@conagrafoods.com javascript:; To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG javascript:; Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:12:33 AM Subject: Re: change location of a field ** It might be possible to copy the form, organize it appropriately, name it, and invoke it with an active link of some sort, however that seems like a lot of work, and depending on the requirements may be overkill. My advice is JUST SAY NO. :-D .: Mike T :. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG javascript:;] On Behalf Of Raj Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 1:13 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG javascript:; Subject: Re: change location of a field ** Yes and No. There is no change field action to change the location for field. However, you can put the field in certain tabs and govern other tab visibility which would essentially give a limited impression of location change. -Raj From: Wagner, Christoph [via ARS (Action Request System)] [mailto:[hidden email] ] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 11:16 To: Hiremath, Rajashekhar Subject: change location of a field ** Dear listers
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I believe they are in the process of making it completely java based - but from what I've heard that's still a couple years away. Maybe they can add this to the requirements for ARS 9 or 10. - Original Message - From: Andrew Hicox and...@hicox.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 4:34:54 PM Subject: Re: change location of a field ** It is technically possible to zoom fields around the screen with active links using clever JavaScript (jquery works really well for this given that the id of the div containing the field is usually the fieldid). However I'm rather certain this kinda hack voids your warranty so to speak when calling up support. Though Doug brings up a lot of good points about why doing things like this are, in general, a bad idea ... in my (now considerable) experience doing remedy stuff on midtier, it's been a request that continually pops up again and again. In my opinion, the reason it is a recurring issue, is that from an end user's perspective, remedy is now a website ... except that it isn't ... because it's GUI breaks nearly every expectation a user might have for interacting with a website. Which is why people continually ask us developers to try and make it behave more like a website ... And why we start thinking of these ridiculous JavaScript hacks and such. Remedy needs a better framework for defining web GUIs. Just my two cents on it Andy On Wednesday, April 2, 2014, Mueller, Doug doug_muel...@bmc.com wrote: Christoph, As is the case with many questions of this type, describing the problem you are trying to solve would really help. Several answers... No, it is not possible to change x,y coordinates or height or width of a field through active links. Fields moving around on the screen is confusing and disconcerting to most users. No support for this has been added. Now, if what you are looking for is areas of the screen to come and go and the screen to shift for new areas, then yes, this is possible. You use panels and you put fields on various panels and when a panel is closed fields below it are shifted up into the space that is now closed. So, this is one type of field movement and one that is expected by users. Or, if there is some specific reason for some condition to have a field move and it is something that the users would not be confused by, then the best approach is the one that is mentioned below. Create a new display only field of the same type but with the new x,y, witdh, height, and whatever else characteristics. Then, you use active links to 1) Maintain the same value in both fields. If either field has the value changed, it is written to the other field. Maybe something on loss of focus that just writes the value to the other field and put this on each copy. The only issue here is on the Query screen where you need to make sure if you use the Advanced Query bar, you reference the REAL field and not the copy. In QBE you are OK as display only fields are ignored and the two fields are in sync. 2) Add workflow to hide one field and show the other. Make sure that they are both not visible -- unless you are trying to have the SAME value show in two places which is actually another requirement and it would be handled using this same technique. Those are your options. Dynamic moving of fields is not something that is planned for and has a lot of potential for field overlaps and confusion as a general principle. There must be a clear need and clear value for the concept and then you would use one of the techniques above. I hope this helps, Doug Mueller -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of pritch Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:20 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: change location of a field I actually had a similar requirement - made a second field and kept them in sync - only one visible at a time and if one was updated I did a setfield to keep the other updated. - Original Message - From: Mike Tomasiewicz (ConAgra Foods) mike.tomasiew...@conagrafoods.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:12:33 AM Subject: Re: change location of a field ** It might be possible to copy the form, organize it appropriately, name it, and invoke it with an active link of some sort, however that seems like a lot of work, and depending on the requirements may be overkill. My advice is JUST SAY NO. :-D .: Mike T :. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Raj Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 1:13 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: change location of a field ** Yes and No. There is no change field action to change the location for field. However, you can put the field in certain tabs
Re: change location of a field
I agree with Doug to think carefully about the use case.
Technically you could move fields around using javascript run by an active
link. You could try:
Example: jQuery
$(#yourfield).css({top: 100, left: 100});
Example: javascript
document.getElementById('yourfield').top = 100;
document.getElementById('yourfield').left = 100;
Of course this would only work on mid-tier, but hey that's where we're all
heading. ;)
-Jim
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Re: change location of a field
Yes and No. There is no change field action to change the location for field. However, you can put the field in certain tabs and govern other tab visibility which would essentially give a limited impression of location change. -Raj From: Wagner, Christoph [via ARS (Action Request System)] [mailto:ml-node+s1n11648...@n7.nabble.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 11:16 To: Hiremath, Rajashekhar Subject: change location of a field ** Dear listers, is it possible to change the location of a field in a form with an active link or something like that? To change the x- and y- coordinates or maybe the width and height options as well? Thank you very much for your help! Regards Christoph _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://ars-action-request-system.1.n7.nabble.com/change-location-of-a-field-tp116483.html To start a new topic under ARS (Action Request System), email ml-node+s1n2...@n7.nabble.commailto:ml-node+s1n2...@n7.nabble.com To unsubscribe from ARS (Action Request System), click herehttp://ars-action-request-system.1.n7.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_codenode=2code=UmFqYXNoZWtoYXJfSGlyZW1hdGhAYm1jLmNvbXwyfC0xNDIxMzkxMzE0. NAMLhttp://ars-action-request-system.1.n7.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewerid=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.namlbase=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespacebreadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml - -rAJ -- View this message in context: http://ars-action-request-system.1.n7.nabble.com/change-location-of-a-field-tp116483p116484.html Sent from the ARS (Action Request System) mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
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It might be possible to copy the form, organize it appropriately, name it, and invoke it with an active link of some sort, however that seems like a lot of work, and depending on the requirements may be overkill. My advice is JUST SAY NO. :-D .: Mike T :. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Raj Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 1:13 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: change location of a field ** Yes and No. There is no change field action to change the location for field. However, you can put the field in certain tabs and govern other tab visibility which would essentially give a limited impression of location change. -Raj From: Wagner, Christoph [via ARS (Action Request System)] [mailto:[hidden email]/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=116484i=0] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 11:16 To: Hiremath, Rajashekhar Subject: change location of a field ** Dear listers, is it possible to change the location of a field in a form with an active link or something like that? To change the x- and y- coordinates or maybe the width and height options as well? Thank you very much for your help! Regards Christoph _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://ars-action-request-system.1.n7.nabble.com/change-location-of-a-field-tp116483.html To start a new topic under ARS (Action Request System), email [hidden email]/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=116484i=1 To unsubscribe from ARS (Action Request System), click here. NAMLhttp://ars-action-request-system.1.n7.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewerid=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.namlbase=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespacebreadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml -rAJ View this message in context: RE: change location of a fieldhttp://ars-action-request-system.1.n7.nabble.com/change-location-of-a-field-tp116483p116484.html Sent from the ARS (Action Request System) mailing list archivehttp://ars-action-request-system.1.n7.nabble.com/ at Nabble.com. _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
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I actually had a similar requirement - made a second field and kept them in sync - only one visible at a time and if one was updated I did a setfield to keep the other updated. - Original Message - From: Mike Tomasiewicz (ConAgra Foods) mike.tomasiew...@conagrafoods.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:12:33 AM Subject: Re: change location of a field ** It might be possible to copy the form, organize it appropriately, name it, and invoke it with an active link of some sort, however that seems like a lot of work, and depending on the requirements may be overkill. My advice is JUST SAY NO. :-D .: Mike T :. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Raj Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 1:13 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: change location of a field ** Yes and No. There is no change field action to change the location for field. However, you can put the field in certain tabs and govern other tab visibility which would essentially give a limited impression of location change. -Raj From: Wagner, Christoph [via ARS (Action Request System)] [mailto: [hidden email] ] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 11:16 To: Hiremath, Rajashekhar Subject: change location of a field ** Dear listers, is it possible to change the location of a field in a form with an active link or something like that? To change the x- and y- coordinates or maybe the width and height options as well? Thank you very much for your help! Regards Christoph _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://ars-action-request-system.1.n7.nabble.com/change-location-of-a-field-tp116483.html To start a new topic under ARS (Action Request System), email [hidden email] To unsubscribe from ARS (Action Request System), click here . NAML -rAJ View this message in context: RE: change location of a field Sent from the ARS (Action Request System) mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
change location of a field
Dear listers, is it possible to change the location of a field in a form with an active link or something like that? To change the x- and y- coordinates or maybe the width and height options as well? Thank you very much for your help! Regards Christoph ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
