Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool
I suggest you show up at WWRUG09 as well. It would be a pleasure to meet all you folks as I plan to be there the entire week:) I've found that it is not impossible, but very possible indeed, to maintain the entry ids through environments for select forms. It only requires the following ingredients: - People that are willing to develop and document migration processes - A team of developers that can read and follow guidelines - A formalized development process where changes are moved through a pipeline of environments Axton Grams On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Daniel Bloom wrote: > Ben, > When you are doing an ad for your product, > Please prefix with AD: or ADV: in the subject line. > > I suggest you just show up at WWRUG09 in November and get a booth. > Then you can show people live what it does and sell it there. > > Daniel > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ben Chernys > Sent: June 26, 2009 8:05 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool > > No worries Rick. Indeed that was the point that Axton was trying to make. > I know the point well as I've done had to do many of these tasks myself. > > The only problem with your approach you suggest is that the original problem > of incorrect references in the data is not addressed. To extend your idea > to handle that would require importing into staging forms and all the > necessary filters to push to the real forms, or, of-course, using the API. > > IF and only if you maintain request ids, then this step could be avoided. > Otherwise, you'll be faced with either the API or the above development > project. I have found maintaining Ids across systems to be virtually > impossible once systems go live. > > To whit, see the Data Management Tool to load foundation data. This is a > huge tool with an inordinate number of forms and filters and took a > horrendous amount of time to develop and comes with its own set of patches > and fixes. All this just to load data into an application? > > Yes, the API would solve the problem nicely. But that carries the > requirement to have a programmer - most ARS administrators are not > programmers - and costs and time associated with maintaining source code. > > With Meta-Update, any ARS administrator/developer/consultant can develop API > level scripts in very short order. Many scripts are already developed. It > is this development time that Meta-Update saves. > > In addition, Meta-Update is replete with value transformation functions in > its assignments, including a LookUp facility, a regex pattern extracts, SQL, > ARS queries and the like. It can read CSV files that Excel or the BMC > Import tool cannot. It can export CSV files and other files. > > All these result in a company gaining incredible control over ITSM > foundation and other data with minimal development. Why don't you take a > look yourself? > > Cheers > Ben > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool
Ben, When you are doing an ad for your product, Please prefix with AD: or ADV: in the subject line. I suggest you just show up at WWRUG09 in November and get a booth. Then you can show people live what it does and sell it there. Daniel -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ben Chernys Sent: June 26, 2009 8:05 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool No worries Rick. Indeed that was the point that Axton was trying to make. I know the point well as I've done had to do many of these tasks myself. The only problem with your approach you suggest is that the original problem of incorrect references in the data is not addressed. To extend your idea to handle that would require importing into staging forms and all the necessary filters to push to the real forms, or, of-course, using the API. IF and only if you maintain request ids, then this step could be avoided. Otherwise, you'll be faced with either the API or the above development project. I have found maintaining Ids across systems to be virtually impossible once systems go live. To whit, see the Data Management Tool to load foundation data. This is a huge tool with an inordinate number of forms and filters and took a horrendous amount of time to develop and comes with its own set of patches and fixes. All this just to load data into an application? Yes, the API would solve the problem nicely. But that carries the requirement to have a programmer - most ARS administrators are not programmers - and costs and time associated with maintaining source code. With Meta-Update, any ARS administrator/developer/consultant can develop API level scripts in very short order. Many scripts are already developed. It is this development time that Meta-Update saves. In addition, Meta-Update is replete with value transformation functions in its assignments, including a LookUp facility, a regex pattern extracts, SQL, ARS queries and the like. It can read CSV files that Excel or the BMC Import tool cannot. It can export CSV files and other files. All these result in a company gaining incredible control over ITSM foundation and other data with minimal development. Why don't you take a look yourself? Cheers Ben ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool
The 7.1 Import Tool also allowed this. The problem is still not addressed. The problem is not with the primary key of the record being imported but with additional attributes included in that record that are keys to other records. These additional attributes need to be looked up and altered. To take your example of Recon. Look at an attribute level precedence record. The key of instance id is not the problem. There is an attribute called attribute instance id which is the instance id of the OBJSTR:Attribute record of the attribute in Q (Recon was the first of a better breed of references). The field id of that attribute is also in that record but the Recon engine references the OBJSTR:attribute record which fails if it is incorrect. In this case, however, the fix is simply a filter on merge to set the right instance id of the OBJSTR:Attribute record by using the class id and attribute field id to look up that instance id. Of course, perhaps if the CMDB driver were used (as you and other have recommended) to migrate simple class changes instead of having manually added fields on various machines through the class manager gui as one customer has done, the problem would not appear on recon at least - Recon job definitions ARE a better example. Consider transferring people. The instance id is well and good for the person, but the "key" for a permission is the combination of the person id (and redundantly its instanceid) AND the request id of a Support Group record. These will very rarely be the same across environments. In many cases these instance ids and request ids are redundant (esp. when the lookup symbolic is also in the record) but must be set correctly as some OOTB workflow uses one set of linking attributes and other workflow use other linking attributes. Of-course, none of these linking columns are documented! :) Cheers Ben -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of P Romain ARSlist Sent: June 26, 2009 2:22 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool The same issue occurred with AIE and Recon jobs. In 7.5 this is eased by the new incarnation of the Import Tool which can use any field as a key field (such as instanceid for recon jobs). -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ben Chernys Sent: 26 June 2009 13:05 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool No worries Rick. Indeed that was the point that Axton was trying to make. I know the point well as I've done had to do many of these tasks myself. The only problem with your approach you suggest is that the original problem of incorrect references in the data is not addressed. To extend your idea to handle that would require importing into staging forms and all the necessary filters to push to the real forms, or, of-course, using the API. IF and only if you maintain request ids, then this step could be avoided. Otherwise, you'll be faced with either the API or the above development project. I have found maintaining Ids across systems to be virtually impossible once systems go live. To whit, see the Data Management Tool to load foundation data. This is a huge tool with an inordinate number of forms and filters and took a horrendous amount of time to develop and comes with its own set of patches and fixes. All this just to load data into an application? Yes, the API would solve the problem nicely. But that carries the requirement to have a programmer - most ARS administrators are not programmers - and costs and time associated with maintaining source code. With Meta-Update, any ARS administrator/developer/consultant can develop API level scripts in very short order. Many scripts are already developed. It is this development time that Meta-Update saves. In addition, Meta-Update is replete with value transformation functions in its assignments, including a LookUp facility, a regex pattern extracts, SQL, ARS queries and the like. It can read CSV files that Excel or the BMC Import tool cannot. It can export CSV files and other files. All these result in a company gaining incredible control over ITSM foundation and other data with minimal development. Why don't you take a look yourself? Cheers Ben -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black Sent: June 26, 2009 1:42 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool Ben, Thank you for pointing out that your third party product (from softwaretoolhouse.com) has a feature that might be able to help. I think the point that Axton was trying to make is that the out of the box application does not offer such a feature. I am sure
Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool
The same issue occurred with AIE and Recon jobs. In 7.5 this is eased by the new incarnation of the Import Tool which can use any field as a key field (such as instanceid for recon jobs). -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ben Chernys Sent: 26 June 2009 13:05 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool No worries Rick. Indeed that was the point that Axton was trying to make. I know the point well as I've done had to do many of these tasks myself. The only problem with your approach you suggest is that the original problem of incorrect references in the data is not addressed. To extend your idea to handle that would require importing into staging forms and all the necessary filters to push to the real forms, or, of-course, using the API. IF and only if you maintain request ids, then this step could be avoided. Otherwise, you'll be faced with either the API or the above development project. I have found maintaining Ids across systems to be virtually impossible once systems go live. To whit, see the Data Management Tool to load foundation data. This is a huge tool with an inordinate number of forms and filters and took a horrendous amount of time to develop and comes with its own set of patches and fixes. All this just to load data into an application? Yes, the API would solve the problem nicely. But that carries the requirement to have a programmer - most ARS administrators are not programmers - and costs and time associated with maintaining source code. With Meta-Update, any ARS administrator/developer/consultant can develop API level scripts in very short order. Many scripts are already developed. It is this development time that Meta-Update saves. In addition, Meta-Update is replete with value transformation functions in its assignments, including a LookUp facility, a regex pattern extracts, SQL, ARS queries and the like. It can read CSV files that Excel or the BMC Import tool cannot. It can export CSV files and other files. All these result in a company gaining incredible control over ITSM foundation and other data with minimal development. Why don't you take a look yourself? Cheers Ben -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black Sent: June 26, 2009 1:42 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool Ben, Thank you for pointing out that your third party product (from softwaretoolhouse.com) has a feature that might be able to help. I think the point that Axton was trying to make is that the out of the box application does not offer such a feature. I am sure that Axton (or any other programmer) could also write an ARS API based program (C, Java, Perl) to do the task as well. But it is nice to know that a software manufacturer out there saw a need and produced a tool to make this easier to do too. Krishna, I would also suggest an alternate approach to all of this as well. I must admit that it is a bit half baked, and has some of it's own downsides. (Like not being fully tested on my part.) But I think the idea is worth kicking out there What about this as an approach to try to use the Out of the box features and not have to use programming to get the job done? ) Create a Deployable application with NO OBJECTS other than DATA. ) Create queries for the forms that would get all of the needed data from the various forms. ) Export the application from Server A. ) Import the application to Server B. I think the data features of Deployable applications let you export and import the data in a way that would let you do what Axton was suggesting. If so then BMC could release such a def file "add on" and it simply could be used by customers to "skim data" from one server to the other. Obviously this approach would require the use of the Admin Tool (er... Dev Studio) to get the job done. However, I would also think that BMC could use RIK (or maybe just the Driver script) to allow customers to be able to schedule such a transfer of data too. Like I said... just another thought on how to achieve this goal. I hope some of these responses are helpful. As you can tell, after defining what you are trying to do, this community can be creative. :) I hope the suggestions/ideas help. -- Carey Matthew Black BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Ben Chernys wrote: > "There is no way to export bundled approval processes." > > Not true. > > There is an easy way to automate both export and import of a bundled > approval process, or anything else, for that ma
Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool
No worries Rick. Indeed that was the point that Axton was trying to make. I know the point well as I've done had to do many of these tasks myself. The only problem with your approach you suggest is that the original problem of incorrect references in the data is not addressed. To extend your idea to handle that would require importing into staging forms and all the necessary filters to push to the real forms, or, of-course, using the API. IF and only if you maintain request ids, then this step could be avoided. Otherwise, you'll be faced with either the API or the above development project. I have found maintaining Ids across systems to be virtually impossible once systems go live. To whit, see the Data Management Tool to load foundation data. This is a huge tool with an inordinate number of forms and filters and took a horrendous amount of time to develop and comes with its own set of patches and fixes. All this just to load data into an application? Yes, the API would solve the problem nicely. But that carries the requirement to have a programmer - most ARS administrators are not programmers - and costs and time associated with maintaining source code. With Meta-Update, any ARS administrator/developer/consultant can develop API level scripts in very short order. Many scripts are already developed. It is this development time that Meta-Update saves. In addition, Meta-Update is replete with value transformation functions in its assignments, including a LookUp facility, a regex pattern extracts, SQL, ARS queries and the like. It can read CSV files that Excel or the BMC Import tool cannot. It can export CSV files and other files. All these result in a company gaining incredible control over ITSM foundation and other data with minimal development. Why don't you take a look yourself? Cheers Ben -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black Sent: June 26, 2009 1:42 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool Ben, Thank you for pointing out that your third party product (from softwaretoolhouse.com) has a feature that might be able to help. I think the point that Axton was trying to make is that the out of the box application does not offer such a feature. I am sure that Axton (or any other programmer) could also write an ARS API based program (C, Java, Perl) to do the task as well. But it is nice to know that a software manufacturer out there saw a need and produced a tool to make this easier to do too. Krishna, I would also suggest an alternate approach to all of this as well. I must admit that it is a bit half baked, and has some of it's own downsides. (Like not being fully tested on my part.) But I think the idea is worth kicking out there What about this as an approach to try to use the Out of the box features and not have to use programming to get the job done? ) Create a Deployable application with NO OBJECTS other than DATA. ) Create queries for the forms that would get all of the needed data from the various forms. ) Export the application from Server A. ) Import the application to Server B. I think the data features of Deployable applications let you export and import the data in a way that would let you do what Axton was suggesting. If so then BMC could release such a def file "add on" and it simply could be used by customers to "skim data" from one server to the other. Obviously this approach would require the use of the Admin Tool (er... Dev Studio) to get the job done. However, I would also think that BMC could use RIK (or maybe just the Driver script) to allow customers to be able to schedule such a transfer of data too. Like I said... just another thought on how to achieve this goal. I hope some of these responses are helpful. As you can tell, after defining what you are trying to do, this community can be creative. :) I hope the suggestions/ideas help. -- Carey Matthew Black BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Ben Chernys wrote: > "There is no way to export bundled approval processes." > > Not true. > > There is an easy way to automate both export and import of a bundled > approval process, or anything else, for that matter. insert product plug here > Ben Chernys > > Senior Software Architect > Software Tool House Inc. > > Canada / Deutschland / Germany > Mobile: +49 171 380 2329 GMT + 1 + [ DST ] > Email: mailto:ben.cher...@softwaretoolhouse.com > Web: http://www.softwaretoolhouse.com > > A free notepad for Diary fields: > http://www.softwaretoolhouse.com/downloads/DiaryFieldEditor.htm > An
Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool
Ben, Thank you for pointing out that your third party product (from softwaretoolhouse.com) has a feature that might be able to help. I think the point that Axton was trying to make is that the out of the box application does not offer such a feature. I am sure that Axton (or any other programmer) could also write an ARS API based program (C, Java, Perl) to do the task as well. But it is nice to know that a software manufacturer out there saw a need and produced a tool to make this easier to do too. Krishna, I would also suggest an alternate approach to all of this as well. I must admit that it is a bit half baked, and has some of it's own downsides. (Like not being fully tested on my part.) But I think the idea is worth kicking out there What about this as an approach to try to use the Out of the box features and not have to use programming to get the job done? ) Create a Deployable application with NO OBJECTS other than DATA. ) Create queries for the forms that would get all of the needed data from the various forms. ) Export the application from Server A. ) Import the application to Server B. I think the data features of Deployable applications let you export and import the data in a way that would let you do what Axton was suggesting. If so then BMC could release such a def file "add on" and it simply could be used by customers to "skim data" from one server to the other. Obviously this approach would require the use of the Admin Tool (er... Dev Studio) to get the job done. However, I would also think that BMC could use RIK (or maybe just the Driver script) to allow customers to be able to schedule such a transfer of data too. Like I said... just another thought on how to achieve this goal. I hope some of these responses are helpful. As you can tell, after defining what you are trying to do, this community can be creative. :) I hope the suggestions/ideas help. -- Carey Matthew Black BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Ben Chernys wrote: > "There is no way to export bundled approval processes." > > Not true. > > There is an easy way to automate both export and import of a bundled > approval process, or anything else, for that matter. insert product plug here > Ben Chernys > > Senior Software Architect > Software Tool House Inc. > > Canada / Deutschland / Germany > Mobile: +49 171 380 2329 GMT + 1 + [ DST ] > Email: mailto:ben.cher...@softwaretoolhouse.com > Web: http://www.softwaretoolhouse.com > > A free notepad for Diary fields: > http://www.softwaretoolhouse.com/downloads/DiaryFieldEditor.htm > An ARS API scripting tool used for migrations, integrations, imports, > reports, extracts, batch jobs: > http://www.softwaretoolhouse.com/products/SthMupd > > -Original Message- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Axton > Sent: June 26, 2009 7:09 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool > > There is no way to export bundled approval processes. You will need to go > to the AP forms to export the necessary data: > AP:Process Definition > AP:Rule Definition > AP:Notification > AP:Alternate > etc. > > I have found it best to maintain the entry ids between various servers when > moving approval related data so that I can make changes in one environment > then update data in other environments. I also prefer the arx format as it > seems to handle things best when going from arserver to arserver. The > import tool supports updating existing entries based on the entry id. > > Axton Grams > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:00 AM, RKVKRKVK wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Thank you very much to your reply. >> >> Actually what i am looking in BMC Remedy User is, There is a link >> called "AP. Administratoin" after logging to the BMC Remedy User which >> is used for to create approval processes. If we click on "AP. >> Administration' link, then it will open a window and shows process, >> rule, notification, role etc and with the help of this, i can able to >> create a new process and i can able to create new rules like > "IssueApproved, IssueCanceled, IssueError" and so on. >> Once i created the process and rules, If i want to export these >> processes, rules etc from BMC Remedy User, What are all the steps i need > to perform. >> >> Best Regards, >> Krishna B ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool
"There is no way to export bundled approval processes."
Not true.
There is an easy way to automate both export and import of a bundled
approval process, or anything else, for that matter. Meta-Update.
With Meta-Update, Entry Ids do not have to be maintained across
environments. If the export / import is a modification such as an
enhancement or fix, rather than a new one, that is also no problem.
With Meta-Update, you pass (say) the approval process name as an argument,
and it follows the chains of selected records in the forms Axton delineated
below, building a set of CSV files.
Then, on an alternate server, it loads these CSV files looking up references
such as Request Ids or Instance IDs etc, and adding or updating records.
Someone like you Axton, who may be more familiar with the tables involved,
and had a read through:
www.softwaretoolhouse.com/products/SthMupd/Training/Meta-Update-Training-101
.pps, and some sample scripts, would be able to develop it in under a day.
I would take some hours to derive the appropriate approval structures (going
though client logs is a good way), and then automate it in a couple of hours
or so.
Then, anytime you needed an export or import, you would run a command with
an Approval Process Name and a file set as arguments. This could easily be
set up in an ARS control form.
An offshore team automated a data transfer of Foundation, SLA, Assets ->
CIs, Tickets, Changes from a heavily customised ITSM 5 to a less customised
ITSM 7 on a customer by customer basis.
30 day trial licenses are free. See www.softwaretoolhouse.com for more
information or contact me directly off-list to schedule a one hour
presentation with your staff.
Ben Chernys
Senior Software Architect
Software Tool House Inc.
Canada / Deutschland / Germany
Mobile: +49 171 380 2329GMT + 1 + [ DST ]
Email: mailto:ben.cher...@softwaretoolhouse.com
Web: http://www.softwaretoolhouse.com
A free notepad for Diary fields:
http://www.softwaretoolhouse.com/downloads/DiaryFieldEditor.htm
An ARS API scripting tool used for migrations, integrations, imports,
reports, extracts, batch jobs:
http://www.softwaretoolhouse.com/products/SthMupd
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Axton
Sent: June 26, 2009 7:09 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool
There is no way to export bundled approval processes. You will need to go
to the AP forms to export the necessary data:
AP:Process Definition
AP:Rule Definition
AP:Notification
AP:Alternate
etc.
I have found it best to maintain the entry ids between various servers when
moving approval related data so that I can make changes in one environment
then update data in other environments. I also prefer the arx format as it
seems to handle things best when going from arserver to arserver. The
import tool supports updating existing entries based on the entry id.
Axton Grams
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:00 AM, RKVKRKVK wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thank you very much to your reply.
>
> Actually what i am looking in BMC Remedy User is, There is a link
> called "AP. Administratoin" after logging to the BMC Remedy User which
> is used for to create approval processes. If we click on "AP.
> Administration' link, then it will open a window and shows process,
> rule, notification, role etc and with the help of this, i can able to
> create a new process and i can able to create new rules like
"IssueApproved, IssueCanceled, IssueError" and so on.
> Once i created the process and rules, If i want to export these
> processes, rules etc from BMC Remedy User, What are all the steps i need
to perform.
>
> Best Regards,
> Krishna B
>
>
>
> Carey Matthew Black wrote:
>>
>> Krishna,
>>
>> "PROCESSES" do not really mean anything in the language of the Action
>> Request System (ARS). That name ("PROCESSES") may refer to some part
>> of an application built on top of ARS, but you have not identified
>> what application (or version of the application) you might be using.
>>
>>
>> However, in general, if you "create it" with the Remedy User Tool,
>> then it likely (not always) can be "exported" by doing one or more
>> "report to file" operations against the form(s) that hold the data
>> that the User Tool created.
>>
>> HTH.
>>
>> --
>> Carey Matthew Black
>> BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request
>> System(Remedy)
>>
>> Love, then teach
>> Solution = People + Process + Tools
>> Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:26 AM, RKVKRKVK wrote:
>&g
Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool
There is no way to export bundled approval processes. You will need
to go to the AP forms to export the necessary data:
AP:Process Definition
AP:Rule Definition
AP:Notification
AP:Alternate
etc.
I have found it best to maintain the entry ids between various servers
when moving approval related data so that I can make changes in one
environment then update data in other environments. I also prefer the
arx format as it seems to handle things best when going from arserver
to arserver. The import tool supports updating existing entries based
on the entry id.
Axton Grams
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:00 AM, RKVKRKVK wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thank you very much to your reply.
>
> Actually what i am looking in BMC Remedy User is, There is a link called
> "AP. Administratoin" after logging to the BMC Remedy User which is used for
> to create approval processes. If we click on "AP. Administration' link, then
> it will open a window and shows process, rule, notification, role etc and
> with the help of this, i can able to create a new process and i can able to
> create new rules like "IssueApproved, IssueCanceled, IssueError" and so on.
> Once i created the process and rules, If i want to export these processes,
> rules etc from BMC Remedy User, What are all the steps i need to perform.
>
> Best Regards,
> Krishna B
>
>
>
> Carey Matthew Black wrote:
>>
>> Krishna,
>>
>> "PROCESSES" do not really mean anything in the language of the Action
>> Request System (ARS). That name ("PROCESSES") may refer to some part
>> of an application built on top of ARS, but you have not identified
>> what application (or version of the application) you might be using.
>>
>>
>> However, in general, if you "create it" with the Remedy User Tool,
>> then it likely (not always) can be "exported" by doing one or more
>> "report to file" operations against the form(s) that hold the data
>> that the User Tool created.
>>
>> HTH.
>>
>> --
>> Carey Matthew Black
>> BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
>> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>>
>> Love, then teach
>> Solution = People + Process + Tools
>> Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:26 AM, RKVKRKVK wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am able to export forms, active links, filters, escalations etc from
>>> BMC
>>> Remedy Developer studio.
>>>
>>> But I am not able to export PROCESSES (which created using Remedy User
>>> tool)
>>> from BMC Remedy User tool. I searched a lot to do this activity for
>>> moving
>>> Development to Production environment. But i didn't get any clue to do
>>> this.
>>> If anyone knows how to export a PROCESSES, that would help me a lot.
>>>
>>> Please anyone look into this and give me the solution to achieve this.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
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Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool
Hi, Thank you very much to your reply. Actually what i am looking in BMC Remedy User is, There is a link called "AP. Administratoin" after logging to the BMC Remedy User which is used for to create approval processes. If we click on "AP. Administration' link, then it will open a window and shows process, rule, notification, role etc and with the help of this, i can able to create a new process and i can able to create new rules like "IssueApproved, IssueCanceled, IssueError" and so on. Once i created the process and rules, If i want to export these processes, rules etc from BMC Remedy User, What are all the steps i need to perform. Best Regards, Krishna B RaviRaj wrote: > > go to user tool or admin tool ' help, and search for "exporting reports". > I think this is what you exactly want.(to export transactional data). > > > RKVKRKVK wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am able to export forms, active links, filters, escalations etc from >> BMC Remedy Developer studio. >> >> But I am not able to export PROCESSES (which created using Remedy User >> tool) from BMC Remedy User tool. I searched a lot to do this activity for >> moving Development to Production environment. But i didn't get any clue >> to do this. If anyone knows how to export a PROCESSES, that would help me >> a lot. >> >> Please anyone look into this and give me the solution to achieve this. >> >> Best Regards, >> Krishna B >> > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-to-export-data-%28PROCESSES%29-from-BMC-Remedy-User-tool-tp24201479p24215004.html Sent from the ARS (Action Request System) mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool
Hi, Thank you very much to your reply. Actually what i am looking in BMC Remedy User is, There is a link called "AP. Administratoin" after logging to the BMC Remedy User which is used for to create approval processes. If we click on "AP. Administration' link, then it will open a window and shows process, rule, notification, role etc and with the help of this, i can able to create a new process and i can able to create new rules like "IssueApproved, IssueCanceled, IssueError" and so on. Once i created the process and rules, If i want to export these processes, rules etc from BMC Remedy User, What are all the steps i need to perform. Best Regards, Krishna B Raj-55 wrote: > > Go to User Tool or Admin Tool's Help and type " Exporting Reports", I > think by PROCESSES you were referring to Transactional Data. > Let me know if you were able to resolve your issue. > Thanks, > Raj > > On Jun 25, 5:26 am, RKVKRKVK wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am able to export forms, active links, filters, escalations etc from >> BMC >> Remedy Developer studio. >> >> But I am not able to export PROCESSES (which created using Remedy User >> tool) >> from BMC Remedy User tool. I searched a lot to do this activity for >> moving >> Development to Production environment. But i didn't get any clue to do >> this. >> If anyone knows how to export a PROCESSES, that would help me a lot. >> >> Please anyone look into this and give me the solution to achieve this. >> >> Best Regards, >> Krishna B >> -- >> View this message in >> context:http://www.nabble.com/How-to-export-data-%28PROCESSES%29-from-BMC-Rem... >> Sent from the ARS (Action Request System) mailing list archive at >> Nabble.com. >> >> ___ >> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives atwww.arslist.org >> Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers >> Are" > > _______________ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-to-export-data-%28PROCESSES%29-from-BMC-Remedy-User-tool-tp24201479p24215000.html Sent from the ARS (Action Request System) mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool
Hi,
Thank you very much to your reply.
Actually what i am looking in BMC Remedy User is, There is a link called
"AP. Administratoin" after logging to the BMC Remedy User which is used for
to create approval processes. If we click on "AP. Administration' link, then
it will open a window and shows process, rule, notification, role etc and
with the help of this, i can able to create a new process and i can able to
create new rules like "IssueApproved, IssueCanceled, IssueError" and so on.
Once i created the process and rules, If i want to export these processes,
rules etc from BMC Remedy User, What are all the steps i need to perform.
Best Regards,
Krishna B
Carey Matthew Black wrote:
>
> Krishna,
>
> "PROCESSES" do not really mean anything in the language of the Action
> Request System (ARS). That name ("PROCESSES") may refer to some part
> of an application built on top of ARS, but you have not identified
> what application (or version of the application) you might be using.
>
>
> However, in general, if you "create it" with the Remedy User Tool,
> then it likely (not always) can be "exported" by doing one or more
> "report to file" operations against the form(s) that hold the data
> that the User Tool created.
>
> HTH.
>
> --
> Carey Matthew Black
> BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>
> Love, then teach
> Solution = People + Process + Tools
> Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:26 AM, RKVKRKVK wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am able to export forms, active links, filters, escalations etc from
>> BMC
>> Remedy Developer studio.
>>
>> But I am not able to export PROCESSES (which created using Remedy User
>> tool)
>> from BMC Remedy User tool. I searched a lot to do this activity for
>> moving
>> Development to Production environment. But i didn't get any clue to do
>> this.
>> If anyone knows how to export a PROCESSES, that would help me a lot.
>>
>> Please anyone look into this and give me the solution to achieve this.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Krishna B
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Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool
Go to User Tool or Admin Tool's Help and type " Exporting Reports", I think by PROCESSES you were referring to Transactional Data. Let me know if you were able to resolve your issue. Thanks, Raj On Jun 25, 5:26 am, RKVKRKVK wrote: > Hi, > > I am able to export forms, active links, filters, escalations etc from BMC > Remedy Developer studio. > > But I am not able to export PROCESSES (which created using Remedy User tool) > from BMC Remedy User tool. I searched a lot to do this activity for moving > Development to Production environment. But i didn't get any clue to do this. > If anyone knows how to export a PROCESSES, that would help me a lot. > > Please anyone look into this and give me the solution to achieve this. > > Best Regards, > Krishna B > -- > View this message in > context:http://www.nabble.com/How-to-export-data-%28PROCESSES%29-from-BMC-Rem... > Sent from the ARS (Action Request System) mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives atwww.arslist.org > Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool
Krishna,
"PROCESSES" do not really mean anything in the language of the Action
Request System (ARS). That name ("PROCESSES") may refer to some part
of an application built on top of ARS, but you have not identified
what application (or version of the application) you might be using.
However, in general, if you "create it" with the Remedy User Tool,
then it likely (not always) can be "exported" by doing one or more
"report to file" operations against the form(s) that hold the data
that the User Tool created.
HTH.
--
Carey Matthew Black
BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:26 AM, RKVKRKVK wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am able to export forms, active links, filters, escalations etc from BMC
> Remedy Developer studio.
>
> But I am not able to export PROCESSES (which created using Remedy User tool)
> from BMC Remedy User tool. I searched a lot to do this activity for moving
> Development to Production environment. But i didn't get any clue to do this.
> If anyone knows how to export a PROCESSES, that would help me a lot.
>
> Please anyone look into this and give me the solution to achieve this.
>
> Best Regards,
> Krishna B
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How to export data (PROCESSES) from BMC Remedy User tool
Hi, I am able to export forms, active links, filters, escalations etc from BMC Remedy Developer studio. But I am not able to export PROCESSES (which created using Remedy User tool) from BMC Remedy User tool. I searched a lot to do this activity for moving Development to Production environment. But i didn't get any clue to do this. If anyone knows how to export a PROCESSES, that would help me a lot. Please anyone look into this and give me the solution to achieve this. Best Regards, Krishna B -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-to-export-data-%28PROCESSES%29-from-BMC-Remedy-User-tool-tp24201479p24201479.html Sent from the ARS (Action Request System) mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor:rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: how to export data?
Paul, I do the first two steps a little differently. I enter the search criteria into the search form, but don't run it. Then from search mode with the criteria entered, I go into the reporting piece, following the steps you outlined below. When you do the Report/Export to File, Remedy will execute the search at that time. This runs faster and doesn't use as much memory, since its not loading all the data first. Being in the habit of doing it this way also keeps me from going into the Reporting tool with only one record selected. That's not a big deal, but when you look at the file you exported and only see one row of data, it gives you pause, and then you have to go do it again anyway. Just thought I'd mention it to save you some time. Thad Esser Remedy Developer "Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours."-- Richard Bach "Clements, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)" 03/16/2007 07:17 AM Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject Re: how to export data? "But how can I export/dump the data for local application?" It's not that obvious if you're new to Remedy. What you need to do is: * run a search of a particular form * Select the data you wish to export in the 'Results Pane' * Select 'Tools' * Select 'Reporting' * This then takes you into the reporting tool. * To export the entire file simply select 'New Style' * Click 'Add All' * Select Report/Export To/File Cheers, Paul Clements IT Professional Officer Glasgow City Council Centenary House 100 Morrison Street Glasgow G5 8LN Phone: 0141 418 1332 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.glasgow.gov.uk -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vinson Sent: 16 March 2007 13:48 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: how to export data? Hi, I'm a newbie of Remedy. I know that I can use remedy user to import/ export the definition. But how can I export/dump the data for local application? ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" Support Scotland's Bid to host the 2014 Commonwealth Games in Glasgow - visit www.glasgow2014.com Disclaimer: This message is intended only for use of the addressee. If this message was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete this message. Glasgow City Council cannot accept responsibility for viruses, so please scan attachments. Views expressed in this message do not necessarily reflect those of the Council who will not necessarily be bound by its contents. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ***IMPORTANT NOTICE: This communication, including any attachment, contains information that may be confidential or privileged, and is intended solely for the entity or individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message is strictly prohibited. Nothing in this email, including any attachment, is intended to be a legally binding signature.*** ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: how to export data?
If you are asking about Local vs Deployable apps. If you use Deployable Applications, you can export forms and data into one DEF file (you set this up in the Deployable apps Properties->Data tab). You cannot do the same with Local applications, you will have to export the data single form at a time as Paul suggested. Mike. Michael Worts Remedy Specialist IGS, Business Consulting Services ITIL Service Manager Certified Tel: +44 (0)1962 822273 Mob: +44 (0)7801 755346 Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)" 16/03/2007 13:48 Please respond to arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To arslist@ARSLIST.ORG cc Subject how to export data? Hi, I'm a newbie of Remedy. I know that I can use remedy user to import/ export the definition. But how can I export/dump the data for local application? ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: how to export data?
"But how can I export/dump the data for local application?" It's not that obvious if you're new to Remedy. What you need to do is: * run a search of a particular form * Select the data you wish to export in the 'Results Pane' * Select 'Tools' * Select 'Reporting' * This then takes you into the reporting tool. * To export the entire file simply select 'New Style' * Click 'Add All' * Select Report/Export To/File Cheers, Paul Clements IT Professional Officer Glasgow City Council Centenary House 100 Morrison Street Glasgow G5 8LN Phone: 0141 418 1332 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.glasgow.gov.uk -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vinson Sent: 16 March 2007 13:48 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: how to export data? Hi, I'm a newbie of Remedy. I know that I can use remedy user to import/ export the definition. But how can I export/dump the data for local application? ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" Support Scotland's Bid to host the 2014 Commonwealth Games in Glasgow - visit www.glasgow2014.com Disclaimer: This message is intended only for use of the addressee. If this message was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete this message. Glasgow City Council cannot accept responsibility for viruses, so please scan attachments. Views expressed in this message do not necessarily reflect those of the Council who will not necessarily be bound by its contents. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
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