Re: [art] Receiving Mail?
Hi Austin you wrote: > I am just wondering if you guys are receiving my mail, because I'm never > sure when I get the "ooo.to.heliotr...@neverbox.com" problem.. > A single response is fine. Yes :-) (at least if you refer to your mail about 5 to hours ago about the Artist Sandbox SVG) Best regards Bernhard PS: I'll contact Florian and John about unsubscribing the neverbox address. Even if the only problem is an additional mail to people posting mails to the list (and these mails are not too many ATM) it's a bit annoying... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] Receiving Mail?
Hello All, I am just wondering if you guys are receiving my mail, because I'm never sure when I get the "ooo.to.heliotr...@neverbox.com" problem.. A single response is fine. Austin Martin
[art] Artwork Developer Sandbox SVG:
Hello Everyone, Ivan M If any of you don't know, Ivan M suggested an "Artist's Development Sandbox" on the first Report I made. > Ivan M wrote: > However, I had also hoped that we could also create a kind of > beginners toolbox - a compressed file that new members can download, > which contains common graphical elements to get them started - a > vector copy of the OOo logo, color pallets, etc [...] I said this back: > Austin Martin wrote: > If you don't mind I think I will make a rough draft of this page, I know I > need to make a SVG page with the "work bench" material but should I also > make a PNG version? I collected a view things and now I have created the SVG version at this page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Image:ArtworkDeveloperSanbox.svg (Direct Link: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/c/ce/ArtworkDeveloperSanbox.svg ) Wanted to let everyone know, and put it up for feedback. Please suggest any other graphics that I need to include. Austin Martin
Re: [art] Another website/wiki structure proposal:
Hey Bernhard, all, This mail can be summed up into 3 statements, but you can look more in depth if you want too.. - I agree with the wiki structure. This was a misunderstanding.. - "the only problem that people might have is that we are destroying the contest pages, unless we are planning to keep those, in which I would ask, where should they go, and should we keep the main 2 contests on there, or all of them?" - I agree with the Navbox/bar. On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Dr. Bernhard Dippold < bernh...@familie-dippold.at> wrote: > Hi Austin, all, > > Austin Martin wrote: > >> *Hello Everyone,** > >> > >> *Third one of these, smaller than the 1st or 2nd, but maybe more > important > >> than both.. > > >good size :-) > >(Just changed the tilte to tell more about the content than "report") Will do.. > >> > >> > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Image:ArtProjectMapping-AustinMartin.png > >> > >> - This is my proposal for the gutting, cleaning, and creating the new > Art > >> Project Wiki. > > > I wanted to create such a comprehensive image too, but didn't have the > time to do so :-( I just used Freemind, but I think you might know of the program too. > > >> (I haven't read Bernhard's post thoroughly, which just got > >> sent to me.) >There are some priniciple differences between the proposals where we should > agree on one of them before we go and create new pages IMHO. > > > Main difference: > > > -Your proposal includes everything (static pages as well as the official > galleries) in the wiki part, while I want them to become part of the > website. There is no difference here, I probably should of said something about it, but I agree. Those would link up to the main art project page, but I kind of put them on the wrong side (basically it would be the Resources page there is on the wiki right now).. I updated the image for clarification. > > As Ivan and myself told you, we want the wiki for artwork uploads and > collaborative project work. Main informations for people coming to meet us > should be presented on the website. As long as these >pages don't exist > there in the quality we want to achieve, the user should be redirected to > corresponding wiki pages, because they are more easily to create and to > modify. > > > Of course this is just an idea that can be discussed. We should find a > solution everybody here might eb able to livewith and work with. (I can live with this one, because I agree.) > >> Please give me feedback on this. > > > It's structuerd in a clear and comprehensive way, that covers all the > topics we want to be presented to the public. > > > I don't want to comment the differences to my proposal (moving the > official artwork gallery to the website etc.), but there is one point I > don't understand: > > >> Also note that the artwork > >> proposals will have the Proposals/ added to them and they will be in > that > >> directory. > > > What's the reason for adding a subdirectory /proposals/? > > > If an author wants his/her artwork to become official, this proposal has > to be sent to the mailing list IMHO. If it is accepted for the official > gallery, it can be added there, but if it is rejected, it will become part > > of the additional artwork gallery. Ok, that sounds good too, the main reason I think most of this misunderstanding from me is coming is because when I got here, the wiki was (to no offense to anyone who worked on it), poorly constructed/worded.. > So why not put it in the additional gallery from the beginning? > > > And if the official gallery will not be stored at the wiki, the > additional gallery will become the "Gallery" for all submitted artwork. > (Yes, mistake on my part >.<) > > > Wth regard to the sandbox: Do you want this to become a single page or a > subdirectory for different tasks / collaborative artwork? > > > I understand the other pages on the main level as information and lists, > but this might become a larger area where we really work with the wiki. If it gets used alot it might be a subdirectory, but I was thinking of just making it a single page (and people can separate themselves with headers, etc.) > >> - > >> > >> @ http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery > >> - Moved the additional artwork gallery thing here, but still need to > >> change/move the directory of the other subpages. > > >Please wait with creating new directories/pages until we found a way to > structrue the entire project. Yea I was going to, that's normally why I always bring them up on the furthur plans list, because these things won't be started, unless it is very minor. > > >> - Right now it seems stupid considering that: > >> 1.) The contents box is weirdly organized. > > > agreed - I don't think we need a contents box on that page if we just use > it to link to the subdierctories (via buttons/images?) > > >> 2.) The proposals are pushed to the bottom.. > > > As I mentioned above: I do
Re: [art] Another website/wiki structure proposal [was: Austin Martin's Report - Important #3:]
Hi Austin, all, Austin Martin wrote: > *Hello Everyone,** > > *Third one of these, smaller than the 1st or 2nd, but maybe more important > than both.. good size :-) (Just changed the tilte to tell more about the content than "report") > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Image:ArtProjectMapping-AustinMartin.png > > - This is my proposal for the gutting, cleaning, and creating the new Art > Project Wiki. I wanted to create such a comprehensive image too, but didn't have the time to do so :-( > (I haven't read Bernhard's post thoroughly, which just got > sent to me.) There are some priniciple differences between the proposals where we should agree on one of them before we go and create new pages IMHO. Main difference: -Your proposal includes everything (static pages as well as the official galleries) in the wiki part, while I want them to become part of the website. As Ivan and myself told you, we want the wiki for artwork uploads and collaborative project work. Main informations for people coming to meet us should be presented on the website. As long as these pages don't exist there in the quality we want to achieve, the user should be redirected to corresponding wiki pages, because they are more easily to create and to modify. Of course this is just an idea that can be discussed. We should find a solution everybody here might eb able to livewith and work with. > Please give me feedback on this. It's structuerd in a clear and comprehensive way, that covers all the topics we want to be presented to the public. I don't want to comment the differences to my proposal (moving the official artwork gallery to the website etc.), but there is one point I don't understand: > Also note that the artwork > proposals will have the Proposals/ added to them and they will be in that > directory. What's the reason for adding a subdirectory /proposals/? If an author wants his/her artwork to become official, this proposal has to be sent to the mailing list IMHO. If it is accepted for the official gallery, it can be added there, but if it is rejected, it will become part of the additional artwork gallery. So why not put it in the additional gallery from the beginning? And if the official gallery will not be stored at the wiki, the additional gallery will become the "Gallery" for all submitted artwork. WIth regard to the sandbox: Do you want this to become a single page or a subdirectory for different tasks / collaborative artwork? I understand the other pages on the main level as information and lists, but this might become a larger area where we really work with the wiki. > - > > @ http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery > - Moved the additional artwork gallery thing here, but still need to > change/move the directory of the other subpages. Please wait with creating new directories/pages until we found a way to structrue the entire project. > - Right now it seems stupid considering that: > 1.) The contents box is weirdly organized. agreed - I don't think we need a contents box on that page if we just use it to link to the subdierctories (via buttons/images?) > 2.) The proposals are pushed to the bottom.. As I mentioned above: I don't see a reason for this discrimination. They should be part of the corresponding subgalleries. > - A two column (I think that is possible), would be the best solution I > think. But not necessary IMHO. > > *Further Plans:* > > @ http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art > - Reconstruct the entire Wiki to the Art Project new directory proposal (I > made >.>). Not yet please - collaborative working means finding a way together, not to present a final position that might be accepted or rejected (including the work and time spent for it). > And I'll come out with a large list (Report #4) of killed pages > in the making, lol. Please don't create even more pages that have to be killed in future... > > @ http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Template:Art > - Change this so that it goes along with the Art Project new directory > proposal. When we agreed on one of the proposals. > - I would also like to add something like this to the template: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:FOSS, which actually uses this > template: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Navbox, Or only have this on > the template, and just add a small thing at the top formatted much the same > as the bottom, but smaller. It's great to have such a table on the wiki - didn't know that this is possible. But I don't know if it is necessary for the navigation bar on the right, where I'd like to link only to the main areas and the galleries. The navbar template seems to me as if it would fit perfectly for the gallery page (linking to the subgalleries) and for the subgalleries (linking to the single artwork pages or areas). > Official Wiki Manager? lol. At least: Most active wiki contributor ATM :-) Bes
