Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

2006-05-07 Thread Allan Peterson



Sorry but if it worked that way we could all make tons of money. I would list my house here for 1 million beceause eventually that would be the worth? While I do not agree with taking of property, the value should be based on today's worth. Not 5 years from now etc. traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  "Fred", you know rat holes don't you, rats and skunks.what she wants is only known to her, what she deserves is a whole different thing.and what she deserves, as the 1st taxpayer being subjected to eminent domain in APis precisely what this is all about. She deserves her fair slice of the pie. If the property is eventually worth multi millions of dollarswhy should she get hundreds of thousands? But the money is none of our business, what is our business is whether the
 citycouncil of asbury park upholds their oath of allegiance to their constituency and protects their taxpayers from the greedy, bottom feeders who want to pay pennies on the dollar for properties that will make them many many many millions of dollars. And it makes zero difference if the taxpayer has been there 20 years or twenty days, as Keady said, they all need to be treated fairly and most of all they all need to receive the same due process.But that is something that just isn't understandable to those who sleep with the rats and the skunks, their greed overwhelms them and they treat everyone the same; as marks in a sting.Fred wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   So it's her lawyers fault not the councils she should sue him. I doubt very much that she didn't know what was going on. Your telling me her lawyer had this
 since 2004 and he didn't say a word? Are you that gullable? I wonder why the city hasn't lost a lawsuit. Isn't Fernicola her Lawyer? Two weeks wouldn't have made a difference Rita won't settle. Didn't Maureen post that Rita's taking this to the end? She's wants $ 500,000 for that rat hole. After posting this morning I had a delicious piece of blueberry marble  cake at The Kingsley Deli. Sure enough, Rita's lawyer did receive the  offers via certified mail that Aaron said were sent. I do not think that  changes for one thing about what I wrote earlier. If a taxpayer stands  in front of the council and makes a statement, they should have not only  listened they should have acted accordingly. Nothing about the  redevelopment project would have changed if two weeks from now, the
 same  vote they took weds was taken at the next meeting. In fact, what might  change would be the plight of a taxpayer and the one person who stood up  to the blight by showing up for work everyday. No one looked at C8 over  the years more than Rita. Everyone else left. The council should have  postponed the vote and similar to what they did and hopefully are doing  for Christina's Aunt, looked into whether or not a fair offer was made  Rita, and the chance to sit at the table and negotiate a fair deal for  her property.  SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home  http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Asbury+park+homew1=Asbury+park+homew2=Asbury+park+njw3=Asbury+park+hotelw4=Asbury+park+foreclosurew5=Asbury+park+real+estatew6=Asbury+parkc=6s=140.sig=0vxkxu1RDrB64nxKV8lpRQ   Asbury park nj  http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Asbury+park+njw1=Asbury+park+homew2=Asbury+park+njw3=Asbury+park+hotelw4=Asbury+park+foreclosurew5=Asbury+park+real+estatew6=Asbury+parkc=6s=140.sig=ObXN4NSxwdBhLBP_8hz6eQ   Asbury park hotel  http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Asbury+park+hotelw1=Asbury+park+homew2=Asbury+park+njw3=Asbury+park+hotelw4=Asbury+park+foreclosurew5=Asbury+park+real+estatew6=Asbury+parkc=6s=140.sig=KL-jtA1nQNVX9sKM5-E8sg  Asbury park foreclosure  http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Asbury+park+foreclosurew1=Asbury+park+homew2=Asbury+park+njw3=Asbury+park+hotelw4=Asbury+park+foreclosurew5=Asbury+park+real+estatew6=Asbury+parkc=6s=140.sig=aYPrqh5nE_Mo0Q80VMt5sQ   Asbury park real estate  http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Asbury+park+real+estatew1=Asbury+park+homew2=Asbury+park+njw3=Asbury+park+hotelw4=Asbury+park+foreclosurew5=Asbury+park+real+estatew6=Asbury+parkc=6s=140.sig=XnfneXry_jezEvhnMpZyCQ   Asbury park  http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Asbury+parkw1=Asbury+park+homew2=Asbury+park+njw3=Asbury+park+hotelw4=Asbury+park+foreclosurew5=Asbury+park+real+estatew6=Asbury+parkc=6s=140.sig=UeZAmVekwGDPJlXM2nJvNQ   YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "AsburyPark http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark" on the web.  *
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[AsburyPark] Re: What to do about Rita's

2006-05-07 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Just because she was the first doesn't mean she will be taken first 
she will be there a while. Once the block is condemed then all of 
them will be taken. It could take a couple of years before she is 
really gone.Anybodys is still there with building going around it.


 For those of you not at the Council Meeting (I suspect most of this 
 board) I'll share my comments about how the Deli should be 
treated.
 
 The Deli should be the LAST property taken not the FIRST.
 
 Rita has stuck it out on Kingsley St for decades and deserves to be 
 part of redevelopment.
 
 As the area builds up (the Esperanza in particular) construction 
 workers will need a place for coffee, lunch, snacks etc.
 The Kingsley Deli is ready, and the only retail in the area, to 
provide 
 those services.
 
 Let Rita make a few bucks, provide service to the construction 
crews, 
 and take the Deli LAST not FIRST. I'm certain the workers would 
 appreciate it.
 
 Werner








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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

2006-05-07 Thread traderdube
what about the business?
Or did Warner already answer that?
 The Deli should be the LAST property taken not the FIRST.

Which begs the question as to why?
Why act so quickly and HARSHLY on the deli?
Will every Asbury Park taxpayer's property and business be dealt with 
just as harshly?
That is the question Councilman Keady asked that his fellow elected 
officials refused to address.
When Mr. Keady cited an obvious flaw in Asbury's eminent domain 
procedures, confirmed in later public discussion, he was shouted down.
Harshly.

Is harshly a word?


Allan Peterson wrote:

 Sorry but if it worked that way we could all make tons of money.  I 
 would list my house here for 1 million beceause eventually that would 
 be the worth?  While I do not agree with taking of property, the value 
 should be based on today's worth.  Not 5 years from now etc. 

 */traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

 Fred, you  know rat holes don't you, rats and skunks.
 what she wants is only known to her, what she deserves is a whole
 different thing.
 and what she deserves, as the 1st taxpayer being subjected to eminent
 domain in AP
 is precisely what this is all about. She deserves her fair slice
 of the
 pie. If the property is eventually worth multi millions of dollars
 why should she get hundreds of thousands? But the money is none of
 our
 business, what is our business is whether the city
 council of asbury park upholds their oath of allegiance to their
 constituency and protects their taxpayers from the greedy, bottom
 feeders who want to pay pennies on the dollar for properties that
 will
 make them many many many millions of dollars. And it makes zero
 difference if the taxpayer has been there 20 years or twenty days, as
 Keady said, they all need to be treated fairly and most of all
 they all
 need to receive the same due process.
 But that is something that just isn't understandable to those who
 sleep
 with the rats and the skunks, their greed overwhelms them and they
 treat
 everyone the same; as marks in a sting.

 Fred wrote:

  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
  
  So it's her lawyers fault not the councils she should sue him. I
  doubt very much that she didn't know what was going on. Your telling
  me her lawyer had this since 2004 and he didn't say a word? Are you
  that gullable? I wonder why the city hasn't lost a lawsuit. Isn't
  Fernicola her Lawyer? Two weeks wouldn't have made a difference 
 Rita
  won't settle. Didn't Maureen post that Rita's taking this to the
 end?
  She's wants $ 500,000 for that rat hole.
 
 
 
  After posting this morning I had a delicious piece of blueberry
  marble
   cake at The Kingsley Deli. Sure enough, Rita's lawyer did receive
  the
   offers via certified mail that Aaron said were sent. I do not
 think
  that
   changes for one thing about  what I wrote earlier. If a taxpayer
  stands
   in front of the council and makes a statement, they should
 have not
  only
   listened they should have acted accordingly. Nothing about the
   redevelopment project would have changed if two weeks from
 now, the
  same
   vote they took weds was taken at the next meeting. In fact, what
  might
   change would be the plight of a taxpayer and the one person who
  stood up
   to the blight by showing up for work everyday. No one looked at C8
  over
   the years more than Rita. Everyone else left. The council should
  have
   postponed the vote and similar to what they did and hopefully are
  doing
   for Christina's Aunt, looked into whether or not a fair offer was
  made
   Rita, and the chance to sit at the table and negotiate a fair deal
  for
   her property.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Council/Citzens

2006-05-07 Thread Jim
The Council should be here to serve us Citzens first look out for us.And learn 
to accept the Truth some of them can't PERIOD  get piss off things when it is 
brought to there attention.Like buying office chairs for all that .Certain 
people bring things to there attention  it upsets some of them.Some Council 
don't even come to Veterans Day or Memorail Day some only been to one since 
they been in office 4 out of 5 do.Veterans donate a Flag Pole at the A/P 
Library  there a tree growing around it.They take a street away named after a 
WWII Veteran Bill Green a N.J. VFW State Commander know this is why my WWII get 
upset.Us citzens aren't perfect either  we all need to learn from our mistakes 
which we make come down to us all working together!!Some people hide behind 
phony names they could be one of the City Council members who really cares.I 
have nothing to hide I will look anyone in the Face tell them what I 
think.People don't like me they can kiss my A__.One of the problems we have is 
to much Greed in this town.Remember money the root of all Evil.

James Grabe
Patriot Officer
Veterans Alliance
Asbury Park N.J.





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[AsburyPark] Re: Council/Citzens

2006-05-07 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Is that the same Bill Green who was the corrupt city inspector back 
in the day and who was the bag man for the corrupt council back then? 
You might as well name streets after Saunders Condos Hamilton and 
Weldon.





 The Council should be here to serve us Citzens first look out for 
us.And learn to accept the Truth some of them can't PERIOD  get piss 
off things when it is brought to there attention.Like buying office 
chairs for all that .Certain people bring things to there 
attention  it upsets some of them.Some Council don't even come to 
Veterans Day or Memorail Day some only been to one since they been in 
office 4 out of 5 do.Veterans donate a Flag Pole at the A/P Library  
there a tree growing around it.They take a street away named after a 
WWII Veteran Bill Green a N.J. VFW State Commander know this is why 
my WWII get upset.Us citzens aren't perfect either  we all need to 
learn from our mistakes which we make come down to us all working 
together!!Some people hide behind phony names they could be one of 
the City Council members who really cares.I have nothing to hide I 
will look anyone in the Face tell them what I think.People don't like 
me they can kiss my A__.One of the problems we have is to much Greed 
in this town.Remember money the root of all Evil.
 
 James Grabe
 Patriot Officer
 Veterans Alliance
 Asbury Park N.J.








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[AsburyPark] Re: Council/Citzens

2006-05-07 Thread Jim

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jim asburyjim@ wrote:
 
 
 Is that the same Bill Green who was the corrupt city inspector back 
 in the day and who was the bag man for the corrupt council back then? 
 You might as well name streets after Saunders Condos Hamilton and 
 Weldon.


I believe it could have been this was brought to my attention at the Buckley 
Funeral Home at a Wake Service for a Veteran when some Veterans from the State 
of N.J. came here  ask what to Bill Green  a Past State Commander.It was 
before my time.I am not sure if he was ever conficted.He was still a WWII 
Veteran that serve his country gave us our main Freedom we have today some 
respect should be given there.



James Grabe
Patriot Officer
Veterans Alliance
Asbury Park
 
 
 
 
  The Council should be here to serve us Citzens first look out for 
 us.And learn to accept the Truth some of them can't PERIOD  get piss 
 off things when it is brought to there attention.Like buying office 
 chairs for all that .Certain people bring things to there 
 attention  it upsets some of them.Some Council don't even come to 
 Veterans Day or Memorail Day some only been to one since they been in 
 office 4 out of 5 do.Veterans donate a Flag Pole at the A/P Library  
 there a tree growing around it.They take a street away named after a 
 WWII Veteran Bill Green a N.J. VFW State Commander know this is why 
 my WWII get upset.Us citzens aren't perfect either  we all need to 
 learn from our mistakes which we make come down to us all working 
 together!!Some people hide behind phony names they could be one of 
 the City Council members who really cares.I have nothing to hide I 
 will look anyone in the Face tell them what I think.People don't like 
 me they can kiss my A__.One of the problems we have is to much Greed 
 in this town.Remember money the root of all Evil.
  
  James Grabe
  Patriot Officer
  Veterans Alliance
  Asbury Park N.J.
 






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[AsburyPark] Re: Council/Citzens

2006-05-07 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jim asburyjim@ wrote:
 
  
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote:
  
   --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jim asburyjim@ wrote:
   
   
   
The street wasn't named after him because of him being a Vet. 

Is that the same Bill Green who was the corrupt city inspector back 
   in the day and who was the bag man for the corrupt council back 
then? 
   You might as well name streets after Saunders Condos Hamilton 
and 
   Weldon.
  
  
  I believe it could have been this was brought to my attention at 
the Buckley Funeral Home at a Wake Service for a Veteran when some 
Veterans from the State of N.J. came here  ask what to Bill Green 
street  a Past State Commander.It was before my time.I am not sure if 
he was ever conficted.He was still a WWII Veteran that serve his 
country gave us our main Freedom we have today some respect should be 
given there.
  
  
  
  James Grabe
  Patriot Officer
  Veterans Alliance
  Asbury Park
   
   
   
   
The Council should be here to serve us Citzens first look out 
for 
   us.And learn to accept the Truth some of them can't PERIOD  
get piss 
   off things when it is brought to there attention.Like buying 
office 
   chairs for all that .Certain people bring things to there 
   attention  it upsets some of them.Some Council don't even come 
to 
   Veterans Day or Memorail Day some only been to one since they 
been in 
   office 4 out of 5 do.Veterans donate a Flag Pole at the A/P 
Library  
   there a tree growing around it.They take a street away named 
after a 
   WWII Veteran Bill Green a N.J. VFW State Commander know this is 
why 
   my WWII get upset.Us citzens aren't perfect either  we all 
need to 
   learn from our mistakes which we make come down to us all 
working 
   together!!Some people hide behind phony names they could be one 
of 
   the City Council members who really cares.I have nothing to 
hide I 
   will look anyone in the Face tell them what I think.People 
don't like 
   me they can kiss my A__.One of the problems we have is to much 
Greed 
   in this town.Remember money the root of all Evil.

James Grabe
Patriot Officer
Veterans Alliance
Asbury Park N.J.
   
  
 







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