[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Space's

2006-07-13 Thread jerseyjohn99 
Let's see. On a certain property on the waterfront where 138 units are 
to be built, the original valuation came in at $175,000, or $1,268 per 
unit. Figure a housing unit is the size of approximately 20 cars, 
you're looking at $63.40 for the space. Of course, that's based on 
prime oceanfront real-estate.  6 blocks away, you have to chop off at 
least 75% of that value. So, based on Redevelopment Math, we're 
talking $15.85.

Besides, no one wants to park there anyway, and it will bring badly 
needed ratables. 

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a idea on what a parking space is worth in a City 
like Asbury Park?In the downtown area.There has to rough price?
>







 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Space's

2006-07-13 Thread oakdorf 
they could go condo, those spaces.

They do do it.







 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[AsburyPark] Parking Space's

2006-07-13 Thread Jim 
Does anyone have a idea on what a parking space is worth in a City like Asbury 
Park?In the downtown area.There has to rough price? 





 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups.  See the new email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special

2006-07-13 Thread Lighty 
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special





On 7/13/06 7:51 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 I just think everyone should appreciate that it will never be as good as our memories are. 
 

That is something said time and time again and I don’t understand it.  Why do you think it is not possible to bring Asbury Park back to the way people remember it?


__._,_.___




   



  




  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  






__,_._,___

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special

2006-07-13 Thread s325run 



Well at least I got a dialog started here. All I have been reading
in the past is how terrible the new construction is and how long it is
taking(True). My point is simple. Asbury (with some exceptions) has
looked liked a war zone for a long time. Bringing new construction
and people can only be an improvment and it should create more job
opportunites for the local residents. I didn't mean to create any
verbal abuse. I just think everyone should appreciate that it will
never be as good as our memories are. 

 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special


















  






Are you talking about the apartments converted to condos?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
  
  
Is
that a threat How silly, it was more a comical remark intended to
lighten the heavy load we all carry. As for facts, you know the facts
all to well Werner, they stop and start on the 300 block of 4th ave. At
your bequest, the job has been stopped 4 times, finally, common sense
prevailed and we are able to finish the very fine work we have done in
rehabilitating what was once a decayed and crime producing building
that people were afraid to drive by.
And yes Werner, it was also a
snide and underhanded remark toward your decaying property, a once
beautiful house that looks like shit now. How much for your house
Werner, I want to buy it and rehabilitate it.
-- Original message --
From: "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com>
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, traderdube ...> wrote:
> 
> > the current decay that is
> > going unchecked except in a few small pockets where the private owners 
> > of property have the wherewithal, the guts and guile, the money, and the 
> > determination to continue on despite the moronic backward, or is that 
> > sideways?, efforts of those few curmudgeons who constantly
> > stop every little construction project seeking to rehabilitate the 
> >
 aforementioned decay so prevalent in so many structures in asbury park.
> 
> How about some facts instead of rhetoric.
> 
> > Glass houses Werner, glass houses and round stones that fly true.
> 
> Is that a threat?
> 
> Werner
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



From: "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:19:37 +

  
  
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, traderdube ...> wrote:

> the current decay that is
> going unchecked except in a few small pockets where the private owners 
> of property have the wherewithal, the guts and guile, the money, and the 
> determination to continue on despite the moronic backward, or is that 
> sideways?, efforts of those few curmudgeons who constantly
> stop every little construction project seeking to rehabilitate the 
> aforementioned decay so prevalent in so many structures in asbury park.

How
 about some facts instead of rhetoric.

> Glass houses Werner, glass houses and round stones that fly true.

Is that a threat?

Werner





 

Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.
Try it free. 



  







 




Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.



__._,_.___




   






  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Asbury park home
  
  
Asbury park nj
  
  
Asbury park hotel
  
  


Asbury park foreclosure
  
  
Asbury park real estate
  
  
Asbury park
  
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  






__,_._,___

Re: [AsburyPark] Tom Waits on Fourth Ave.

2006-07-13 Thread Allen McDaniel 
THAT'S A GREAT SHOT!!  ESP. W/C.H. IN D BKGROUND!!  
I'M KEEPIN' A COPY...HOPE IT'S OK! NICE COMP!  -al

--- "A.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> yeah, thats an RC piece.
> 
> --- Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On 7/12/06 7:46 PM, "Heshy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > >  What creative soul stenciled this image on one
> of
> > the concrete
> > > drainage duct segments between Kingsley and the
> > boardwalk?
> > > 
> > >
> >
>
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i206/TheHesh/waitsap.jpg
> > >  
> > 
> > That looks like the work of Rich Cali, former
> owner
> > of Coffee Blue in
> > Belmar.  He used to have that as a print and was a
> > devoted Tom Waits fan.
> > 
> > -Gary
> > Upstage Magazine
> > 
> 
> 
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> protection around 
> http://mail.yahoo.com 
> 


__
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 


 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[AsburyPark] Speak Up on the Baronet Seizure

2006-07-13 Thread radio881gal 
The Asbury Park City Council votes next Wednesday, July 19, on whether 
to save or demolish the Baronet Theater, literally the last picture 
show in Asbury Park, which was once home to 6 theaters. 

  Asbury Radio Broadcasts Live from the 1920s Baronet Theater Before a 
Live Audience Tonight July 13th at 8 PM
 Nelson Page, of Galaxy Theaters, in NYC, who will keep the movies 
coming this summer at the refurbished Baronet Theater will be the 
featured guest at this first for the Baronet - a live radio broadcast 
right from its stage. A la "A Prairie Home Companion", Asbury Radio, a 
weekly independent show broadcast weekly over 88.1 FM on the minority 
owned WYGG, plans to entertain both the theater and listening 
audiences, and interview theater guests about their views on whether or 
not the Baronet should be saved from eminent domain. If you can't be 
here, please call in - 732-775-0821  and 732-775-6203
Thanks, 
Maureen Nevin, Host
Asbury Radio







 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special

2006-07-13 Thread Allan Peterson 



Are you talking about the apartments converted to condos?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Is that a threat How silly, it was more a comical remark intended to lighten the heavy load we all carry. As for facts, you know the facts all to well Werner, they stop and start on the 300 block of 4th ave. At your bequest, the job has been stopped 4 times, finally, common sense prevailed and we are able to finish the very fine work we have done in rehabilitating what was once a decayed and crime producing building that people were afraid to drive by.And yes
 Werner, it was also a snide and underhanded remark toward your decaying property, a once beautiful house that looks like shit now. How much for your house Werner, I want to buy it and rehabilitate it.-- Original message --From: "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com>> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, traderdube ...> wrote:> > > the current decay that is> > going unchecked except in a few small pockets where the private owners > > of property have the wherewithal, the guts and guile, the money, and the > > determination to continue on despite the moronic backward, or is that > > sideways?, efforts of those few curmudgeons who constantly> > stop every little construction project seeking to rehabilitate the > >
 aforementioned decay so prevalent in so many structures in asbury park.> > How about some facts instead of rhetoric.> > > Glass houses Werner, glass houses and round stones that fly true.> > Is that a threat?> > Werner> > > > > From: "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it specialDate: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:19:37 +--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, traderdube ...> wrote:> the current decay that is> going unchecked except in a few small pockets where the private owners > of property have the wherewithal, the guts and guile, the money, and the > determination to continue on despite the moronic backward, or is that > sideways?, efforts of those few curmudgeons who constantly> stop every little construction project seeking to rehabilitate the > aforementioned decay so prevalent in so many structures in asbury park.How
 about some facts instead of rhetoric.> Glass houses Werner, glass houses and round stones that fly true.Is that a threat?Werner 
		Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.
Try it free. 
__._,_.___




   






  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Asbury park home
  
  
Asbury park nj
  
  
Asbury park hotel
  
  


Asbury park foreclosure
  
  
Asbury park real estate
  
  
Asbury park
  
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  






__,_._,___

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special

2006-07-13 Thread Allan Peterson 



Are you talking about the apartments converted to condos?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Is that a threat How silly, it was more a comical remark intended to lighten the heavy load we all carry. As for facts, you know the facts all to well Werner, they stop and start on the 300 block of 4th ave. At your bequest, the job has been stopped 4 times, finally, common sense prevailed and we are able to finish the very fine work we have done in rehabilitating what was once a decayed and crime producing building that people were afraid to drive by.And yes
 Werner, it was also a snide and underhanded remark toward your decaying property, a once beautiful house that looks like shit now. How much for your house Werner, I want to buy it and rehabilitate it.-- Original message --From: "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com>> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, traderdube ...> wrote:> > > the current decay that is> > going unchecked except in a few small pockets where the private owners > > of property have the wherewithal, the guts and guile, the money, and the > > determination to continue on despite the moronic backward, or is that > > sideways?, efforts of those few curmudgeons who constantly> > stop every little construction project seeking to rehabilitate the > >
 aforementioned decay so prevalent in so many structures in asbury park.> > How about some facts instead of rhetoric.> > > Glass houses Werner, glass houses and round stones that fly true.> > Is that a threat?> > Werner> > > > > From: "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it specialDate: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:19:37 +--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, traderdube ...> wrote:> the current decay that is> going unchecked except in a few small pockets where the private owners > of property have the wherewithal, the guts and guile, the money, and the > determination to continue on despite the moronic backward, or is that > sideways?, efforts of those few curmudgeons who constantly> stop every little construction project seeking to rehabilitate the > aforementioned decay so prevalent in so many structures in asbury park.How
 about some facts instead of rhetoric.> Glass houses Werner, glass houses and round stones that fly true.Is that a threat?Werner 
		How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low  PC-to-Phone call rates.
__._,_.___




   






  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Asbury park home
  
  
Asbury park nj
  
  
Asbury park hotel
  
  


Asbury park foreclosure
  
  
Asbury park real estate
  
  
Asbury park
  
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  






__,_._,___

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special

2006-07-13 Thread traderdube 
a message to a board such as this is intended for all eyes to see and anyone 
who wants should and can respond, it's a discussion board. Just because someone 
has an opinion doesn't make them ignorant. I know less than zero about 
architecture, rarely do I voice an opinion other than I like it or I don't like 
it, but that doesn't mean I am ignorant. When I disagree with someone's 
opinion, I do not call them ignorant, or any other derogatory names. I am above 
no one, just like you Werner.
 -- Original message --
From: "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > ah Werner, everyone is always ignorant or a moronhow asbury crude of 
> > you.
> 
> ah Dennis, why are you answering my message ? It was not addressed to you.
> 
> I was asking s325run1 to support the position he/she stated:
> 
> "I hate to cause trouble but most of you are living in the past. Asbury lost 
> it's character 50 
> years ago and it is never going to be the same. Why don't you want it to turn 
> into a beautiful , 
> safe place to live in a multicultural atmosphere."
> 
> Regarding being offended at the word ignorant, that displays an ignorance of 
> it's meaning.
> 
> I readly admit to ignorance in the following subjects: sports, fine art, 
> cooking, and many 
> other topics that you will never hear me speak of. 
> 
> Werner
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 





 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups.  See the new email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 
--- Begin Message ---













--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, traderdube ...> wrote:
>
> ah Werner, everyone is always ignorant or a moronhow asbury crude of 
> you.

ah Dennis, why are you answering my message ? It was not addressed to you.

I was asking s325run1 to support the position he/she stated:

"I hate to cause trouble but most of you are living in the past. Asbury lost it's character 50 
years ago and it is never going to be the same. Why don't you want it to turn into a beautiful , 
safe place to live in a multicultural atmosphere."

Regarding being offended at the word ignorant, that displays an ignorance of it's meaning.

I readly admit to ignorance in the following subjects: sports, fine art, cooking, and many 
other topics that you will never hear me speak of. 

Werner


  






--- End Message ---

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special

2006-07-13 Thread traderdube 
Is that a threat How silly, it was more a comical remark intended to 
lighten the heavy load we all carry. As for facts, you know the facts all to 
well Werner, they stop and start on the 300 block of 4th ave. At your bequest, 
the job has been stopped 4 times, finally, common sense prevailed and we are 
able to finish the very fine work we have done in rehabilitating what was once 
a decayed and crime producing building that people were afraid to drive by.
And yes Werner, it was also a snide and underhanded remark toward your decaying 
property, a once beautiful house that looks like shit now. How much for your 
house Werner, I want to buy it and rehabilitate it.
 -- Original message --
From: "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > the current decay that is
> > going unchecked except in a few small pockets where the private owners 
> > of property have the wherewithal, the guts and guile, the money, and the 
> > determination to continue on despite the moronic backward, or is that 
> > sideways?, efforts of those few curmudgeons who constantly
> > stop every little construction project seeking to rehabilitate the 
> > aforementioned decay so prevalent in so many structures in asbury park.
> 
> How about some facts instead of rhetoric.
> 
> > Glass houses Werner, glass houses and round stones that fly true.
> 
> Is that a threat?
> 
> Werner
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 





 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 
--- Begin Message ---













--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, traderdube ...> wrote:

> the current decay that is
> going unchecked except in a few small pockets where the private owners 
> of property have the wherewithal, the guts and guile, the money, and the 
> determination to continue on despite the moronic backward, or is that 
> sideways?, efforts of those few curmudgeons who constantly
> stop every little construction project seeking to rehabilitate the 
> aforementioned decay so prevalent in so many structures in asbury park.

How about some facts instead of rhetoric.

> Glass houses Werner, glass houses and round stones that fly true.

Is that a threat?

Werner


  






--- End Message ---

Re: [AsburyPark] Tom Waits on Fourth Ave.

2006-07-13 Thread Allan Peterson 



What do all the steaming cheese images mean?  They are all around"A.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  yeah, thats an RC piece.--- Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com> wrote:> On 7/12/06 7:46 PM, "Heshy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com>> wrote:> > > What creative soul stenciled this image on one of> the concrete> > drainage duct segments between Kingsley and the> boardwalk?> >
 > >>http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i206/TheHesh/waitsap.jpg> > > > That looks like the work of Rich Cali, former owner> of Coffee Blue in> Belmar. He used to have that as a print and was a> devoted Tom Waits fan.> > -Gary> Upstage Magazine> __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
		Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls.  Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
__._,_.___




   






  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Asbury park home
  
  
Asbury park nj
  
  
Asbury park hotel
  
  


Asbury park foreclosure
  
  
Asbury park real estate
  
  
Asbury park
  
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  






__,_._,___

[AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special

2006-07-13 Thread Hinge 
Let's not fight here.
We can all benefit from having a multilateral discussion.
Werner is a historian and like many of us, he's dismayed by the loss of the 
history that put 
Asbury on the map in the first place.
Some of us are fortunate enough to be of an age when we had the chance to 
experience 
the history of Asbury, but for many, that history now only exists on the pages 
of coffee 
table books and websites.
I, for one don't see an attractive future for Asbury...I just see another 
homogenized piece 
of America, devoid of culture. Once all this development is done, what's going 
to 
distinguish Asbury from the Long Branch beachfront? 
This is where it gets stickysome would argue that we need to build housing, 
to attract 
new people and pump money into the system.
But, Asbury wasn't completely founded on that principle. It was a resort town, 
full of 
amazing architecture. It wasn't just a place to shop or live. It was a place to 
visit and leave 
with wonderful memories. When I was a kid, I used to get so excited about going 
to 
Asbury that i'd occasionally puke just thinking about it.
I wish the oceanfront redevelopment wouldn't just turn that area into a 
glorified shopping 
mall and condo complex. 
There was once magic in the air in Asbury...things like the smell of chocolates 
being made 
in Criterion, the screams of people on the roller coaster. The pop of toy guns 
at the 
arcades, and the throngs of smiling faces promenading on the boardwalk.
It's a crime that a greater effort wasn't made to preserve some of that 
uniqueness. There 
were a number of buildings in AP that couldn've been saved so that the progress 
of 
redevelopment could've blended with the history.
I can't see many memories being made in the future memory if things keep going 
the way 
they are. I for one have never waxed poetically about visiting Payless shoes in 
the mall, or 
how exciting it was to go shopping anywhere.
Take a look at Atlantic Cities former Steel Pier. It's now an ugly shopping 
mall, just like 
every shopping mall in the country. Once you get inside of one of those, you 
might as well 
be anywhere in America, because they're all the same.
I've used this analogy before, so forgive me, but I don't want to see Asbury 
become like 
the background I used to see in the Flintstones when they were driving 
around...where 
you'd see the same rock/tree/house go repeatedly by over and over.
There is alot more to redevelope in Asbury then just the oceanfront. Except for 
Sunset 
Ave., every avenue into and thru our city is ugly as can be. Asbury Ave. is 
ugly. Main street 
is ugly. Those are the places that give new comers their first impression of 
our city. I think 
they need quite a bit of attention too. In a way, it's just like the first 
impression that many 
people who come to NJ via Newark airport have about our state. Land in Newark, 
and no 
matter where you are headed, you still need to drive thru some really ugly 
stuff to get 
there. Jersey used to be the subject of many jokes because of that. 
I don't want Asbury to be a joke anymore.
And I think we need people like Werner who wants to preserve the past.
Sincerely, Jack

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube  wrote:
> >
> > ah Werner, everyone is always ignorant or a moronhow asbury crude of 
> > you.
> 
> ah Dennis, why are you answering my message ? It was not addressed to you.
> 
> I was asking s325run1 to support the position he/she stated:
> 
> "I hate to cause trouble but most of you are living in the past. Asbury lost 
> it's character 
50 
> years ago and it is never going to be the same. Why don't you want it to turn 
> into a 
beautiful , 
> safe place to live in a multicultural atmosphere."
> 
> Regarding being offended at the word ignorant, that displays an ignorance of 
> it's 
meaning.
> 
> I readly admit to ignorance in the following subjects: sports, fine art, 
> cooking, and many 
> other topics that you will never hear me speak of. 
> 
> Werner
>






 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special

2006-07-13 Thread wernerapnj 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ah Werner, everyone is always ignorant or a moronhow asbury crude of 
> you.

ah Dennis, why are you answering my message ? It was not addressed to you.

I was asking s325run1 to support the position he/she stated:

"I hate to cause trouble but most of you are living in the past. Asbury lost 
it's character 50 
years ago and it is never going to be the same. Why don't you want it to turn 
into a beautiful , 
safe place to live in a multicultural atmosphere."

Regarding being offended at the word ignorant, that displays an ignorance of 
it's meaning.

I readly admit to ignorance in the following subjects: sports, fine art, 
cooking, and many 
other topics that you will never hear me speak of. 

Werner







 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special

2006-07-13 Thread wernerapnj 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> the current decay that is
> going unchecked except in a few small pockets where the private owners 
> of property have the wherewithal, the guts and guile, the money, and the 
> determination to continue on despite the moronic backward, or is that 
> sideways?, efforts of those few curmudgeons who constantly
> stop every little construction project seeking to rehabilitate the 
> aforementioned decay so prevalent in so many structures in asbury park.

How about some facts instead of rhetoric.

> Glass houses Werner, glass houses and round stones that fly true.

Is that a threat?

Werner






 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special

2006-07-13 Thread wernerapnj 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> the current decay that is
> going unchecked except in a few small pockets where the private owners 
> of property have the wherewithal, the guts and guile, the money, and the 
> determination to continue on despite the moronic backward, or is that 
> sideways?, efforts of those few curmudgeons who constantly
> stop every little construction project seeking to rehabilitate the 
> aforementioned decay so prevalent in so many structures in asbury park.

How about some facts instead of rhetoric.

> Glass houses Werner, glass houses and round stones that fly true.

Is that threat?

Werner






 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special

2006-07-13 Thread traderdube 
ah Werner, everyone is always ignorant or a moronhow asbury crude of 
you.
What you missed was the mistaken idea that anyone would not want to see 
asbury be what is was,
a safeplace, a multi-cultural place, and asbury's beauty transcends even 
the current decay that is
going unchecked except in a few small pockets where the private owners 
of property have the wherewithal, the guts and guile, the money, and the 
determination to continue on despite the moronic backward, or is that 
sideways?, efforts of those few curmudgeons who constantly
stop every little construction project seeking to rehabilitate the 
aforementioned decay so prevalent in so many structures in asbury park.
Glass houses Werner, glass houses and round stones that fly true.

wernerapnj wrote:

> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com 
> , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I hate to cause trouble but most of you are living in the past. 
> Asbury lost it's character 50
> years ago and it is never going to be the same. Why don't you want it 
> to turn into a beautiful ,
> safe place to live in a multicultural atmosphere.
>
> Unfortunately your assertion diplays ignorance regarding accepted 
> practices in
> redevelopment and community revitalization.
>
> Please explain, from your point of view, how the current development 
> direction of Asbury
> Park meets State and Federal standards, and how it will benefit the 
> entire City.
>
> How will this vision of yours "a beautiful , safe place to live in a 
> multicultural atmosphere" be
> fulfilled?
>
> Werner
>
>  



 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups.  See the new email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special

2006-07-13 Thread wernerapnj 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I hate to cause trouble but most of you are living in the past. Asbury lost 
> it's character 50 
> years ago and it is never going to be the same. Why don't you want it to turn 
> into a
> beautiful , safe place to live in a multicultural atmosphere.


Unfortunately your assertion displays ignorance regarding accepted practices in 
redevelopment and community revitalization.

Please explain, from your point of view, how the current development direction 
of Asbury 
Park meets State and Federal standards, and how it will benefit the entire City.

How will this vision of yours "a beautiful , safe place to live in a 
multicultural atmosphere" be 
fulfilled?

Werner 






 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups.  See the new email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special

2006-07-13 Thread wernerapnj 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  I hate to cause trouble but most of you are living in the past. Asbury lost 
> it's character 50 
years ago and it is never going to be the same. Why don't you want it to turn 
into a beautiful , 
safe place to live in a multicultural atmosphere.


Unfortunately your assertion diplays ignorance regarding accepted practices in 
redevelopment and community revitalization.

Please explain, from your point of view, how the current development direction 
of Asbury 
Park meets State and Federal standards, and how it will benefit the entire City.

How will this vision of yours "a beautiful , safe place to live in a 
multicultural atmosphere" be 
fulfilled?

Werner 







 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/