[AsburyPark] Council Meeting at Asbury Tower ?

2007-12-05 Thread wernerapnj
An reports of what happened at the meeting last night?

I had heard previously that there was a movement to have the
Townhouses, planned for Ocean Ave in front of the Tower, eliminated.

Anyone in the group have a report ?

Werner



 
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[AsburyPark] Main Street Revitalized by Renovations of Old Theaters

2007-12-05 Thread MarioAPNJ
 
 
Restoration groups say the rescues of beautiful old  theaters reflect dual 
desires: a devotion to movies and live drama, dance and  concerts; and adding 
value to downtown economies.
_Curtains Rise Again - New York Times_ 
(http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/realestate/commercial/05theater.html?_r=1oref=slogin)
  
 
 
L'Or v'Or, L'Dor v'Dor :
From Light to Light, From Generation to  Generation
 
Happy  Hanukkah




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[AsburyPark] Re: Main Street Revitalized by Renovations of Old Theaters

2007-12-05 Thread theshortsalepro
I recall a few years back a successful movie theater owner/manager was 
approached (I don't know who approached him) to renovate an 
underperforming/derelict theater in AP to restore it to its original 
stature.

The catch?  He would have to build, open and manage a movie theater in 
Niagra Falls, NY.

Netflix, Blockbuster, etc. has challenged the industry.







 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Main Street Revitalized by Renovations of Old Theaters

2007-12-05 Thread Jack Pitzer
Netflix and Blockbuster may have challenged the industry, but is the industry 
all that 
challenging anymore? What I mean by this is that personally, I think the US 
movie industry 
is slipping big time, as is most entertainment. Quality is down, commercialism 
is way up.
Most mainstream movie releases are pretty weak until this time of year, and 
Hollywood 
saves their good films for the Oscar push. That gives us 11 months of marginal 
crap and 1 
month of movies for movie lovers.
I have a lifetime subscription to Netflix from my old job, and I've seen all 
the movies I 
always wanted to see by now.
Many of us have too many distractions to be able to devote 2 hours to watching 
a movie, 
at least as far as the younger generation goes. Myspace, video games, the 
internet in 
general, text messagesall of the so called great technological innovations 
that make our 
life so great are alienating us more then ever, and shortening our attention 
spans as time 
goes on. 

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  
  Netflix, Blockbuster, etc. has challenged the industry.
 
 
 
 For those that want to isolate themselves night after night. 
 Blockbuster is a disaster waiting to collaspe, trading at their 52 
 week low, pays no div, trading at less their 52 week high.
 
 NEtflix,is off their 52 week 1 year ago tomorrow, but 50% above their 
 52 week low, trading at 23.32 - no div either. Netflix survived 
 walmart challenge and Blockbuster's blown shot at returning stuff to 
 the store campaign, forgetting the most people are real lazy and 
 don't want to leave their home AND, that the technology for video 
 delivery over the 'net is here and continue to improve day by day. 
 Netflix has also survived Amazon's Unbox (because no udnerstands it 
 yet).  Youi also have the $1 dvd rental machines around and iTune 
 delivery along with all the illegal file sharing networks. 
 
 So us old farts might go to a store to rent a vid, watch one of the 
 900 channels delivered by cable or sat - but the kids and not so kids 
 can download the stuff right to the new iTouches (which ARE very, 
 very clear and you can watch tv easily - Tommy skip the Wii and get 
 that for your kids)
 
 What's next for NetFlix? 
 
 With no dividend, there's other opportunities in the market. Skip the 
 Analysts.
 
 That's my view on it.






 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Main Street Revitalized by Renovations of Old Theaters

2007-12-05 Thread oakdorf

 
 Netflix, Blockbuster, etc. has challenged the industry.



For those that want to isolate themselves night after night. 
Blockbuster is a disaster waiting to collaspe, trading at their 52 
week low, pays no div, trading at less their 52 week high.

NEtflix,is off their 52 week 1 year ago tomorrow, but 50% above their 
52 week low, trading at 23.32 - no div either. Netflix survived 
walmart challenge and Blockbuster's blown shot at returning stuff to 
the store campaign, forgetting the most people are real lazy and 
don't want to leave their home AND, that the technology for video 
delivery over the 'net is here and continue to improve day by day. 
Netflix has also survived Amazon's Unbox (because no udnerstands it 
yet).  Youi also have the $1 dvd rental machines around and iTune 
delivery along with all the illegal file sharing networks. 

So us old farts might go to a store to rent a vid, watch one of the 
900 channels delivered by cable or sat - but the kids and not so kids 
can download the stuff right to the new iTouches (which ARE very, 
very clear and you can watch tv easily - Tommy skip the Wii and get 
that for your kids)

What's next for NetFlix? 

With no dividend, there's other opportunities in the market. Skip the 
Analysts.

That's my view on it.



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: City Council Meetings Tonight

2007-12-05 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, James Keady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ASBURY PARK CITY COUNCIL
 WORKSHOP SESSION MEETING AGENDA
 DECEMBER 5, 2007 - 6PM
 OPEN TO THE PUBLIC
 
 III. Special Event Applications
 Madison Marquette
 Holiday Fireworks
 3rd and 5th Between Beaches
 11/30

How is a Special Event application heard after the fact?




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: City Council Meetings Tonight

2007-12-05 Thread rook782
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 'There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is 
 a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the 
 middle ground between light and shadow, between science and 
 superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the 
 summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is 
 an area which we call The Asbury Park Zone.'
 
 Werner

That's funny!



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: City Council Meetings Tonight

2007-12-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, James Keady james.keady@ 
wrote:
 
  ASBURY PARK CITY COUNCIL
  WORKSHOP SESSION MEETING AGENDA
  DECEMBER 5, 2007 - 6PM
  OPEN TO THE PUBLIC
  
  III. Special Event Applications
  Madison Marquette
  Holiday Fireworks
  3rd and 5th Between Beaches
  11/30
 
 How is a Special Event application heard after the fact?

=

'There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is 
a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the 
middle ground between light and shadow, between science and 
superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the 
summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is 
an area which we call The Asbury Park Zone.'

Werner



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: City Council Meetings Tonight

2007-12-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ 
wrote:
  
  'There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. 
It is 
  a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is 
the 
  middle ground between light and shadow, between science and 
  superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the 
  summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. 
It is 
  an area which we call The Asbury Park Zone.'
  
  Werner
 

 That's funny!
===

I grew up with The Twilight Zone, never thought I'd be living it.

LOL

Werner




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Main Street Revitalized by Renovations of Old Theaters

2007-12-05 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Meanwhile, theater owner Larry Fishman is letting The Baronet rot into
 the ground...


That's because a good PR person will come out and compliment them on 
their restoration and reuse of The Paramount, CH and Arcade and 
eventually the bandshell.

Bring good weather, a few more shows and people moving into condos, 
people getting to flip out, the gripes will slowly fade away.

Look what's happened so far.

A real winner would be to put the carousel back in the casino and work 
around it. Plenty, plenty of room. A real marketing bonanza sitting 
there.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: City Council Meetings Tonight

2007-12-05 Thread asburycheech
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I grew up with The Twilight Zone, never thought I'd be living it.
 
 LOL
 
 Werner

  Hey Werner, you think approving something in the past is
bizarre, how about this gem from their agenda tonight: 

ANNOUNCEMENT BY MAYOR SANDERS – as to compliance with Open Public
Meetings Act, Chapter 231, P.L. 1975 ,that adequate notice of this
meeting has been provided in the following manner: The Annual Notice
was forwarded to the Asbury Park Press, The Coaster, and Star Ledger
on December 27, 2007, and posted on the City bulletin board the same
date. All notices are on file with the City Clerk.

  What tense do I use if I want to ask the city clerk for a copy
of the notice that will have been filed on December 27, 2007?  Is that
the future imperfect?  If so, it is surely not as imperfect as the
past or present for that matter. Note also that the Sunshine notice
was already posted in the future. Does someone out there have a
Theremin? (That's the instrument played prominently in both The Day
the Earth Stood Still and Good Vibrations by the Beach Boys.)  Does
anyone have a dangling participle we can add to the notice above?

 All in all, I guess it's not as bad as someone in the BOE office
not sending out the Sunshine Notice in time for a meeting in early
November.  

 Hey, that's the answer to this conundrum!  Send out the notice
sometime in the distant future for events that will take place in the
near future.  If the universe is really curved anyway, it'll all catch
up to itself someday.  

 Does any of this make sense to you, Werner?  If so, please
explain something much more puzzling: how did the council approve that
redevelopment plan in the first place?  I guess we're all a little
tense lately.

   F. D'Alessandro



   



 
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[AsburyPark] Today in AC

2007-12-05 Thread oakdorf
At the Real Estate Triple Play Convention (PA, NY, NJ) - an afternoon 
Trolley of Atlantic City's Past, Present and Future





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Excuse my doting....

2007-12-05 Thread 2fine4u
Well, you write like I didn't have any!  Assuming as usual!  Assuming
makes an A$$ out of YOU and me!  I have a GREAT-grand child, too!

You need to take that chip, off your shoulder!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have kids and grand children for your info.
 
 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Yeah,
 You should learn!
 




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: PEE WEE

2007-12-05 Thread 2fine4u
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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 Excellent! You can hire me to do opposition research.  I've got the 
 goods on everyone ;-)
 
You are so crazy!

 
 
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[AsburyPark] Bush Freezing Sub-Prime Rates?

2007-12-05 Thread justifiedright
Oak,

Read this column by Michele Malkin.  If this is true and Bush is 
altering private contracts in favor of some mortgage holders, 
shouldn't the rest of us who were smart enough to NOT take one of 
these loans at least get a lower rate?

Are we being punished for doing the right thing again?

http://tinyurl.com/yp2oyx




 
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[AsburyPark] Happy Repeal Day

2007-12-05 Thread justifiedright
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyuMmyc1Izs



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Bush Freezing Sub-Prime Rates?

2007-12-05 Thread evosap
Did you vote for him?maybe that's what you are getting punished for.



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Shortages at food banks worst in 26 years

2007-12-05 Thread evosap
I agree with you.  I would never buy a wii game for a giving tree. 
Basketballs, art supplies, mittens, simple toys...kids don't need what
they want. 

The kids i know who don't have much are getting shoe boxes filled with
art supplies, writing tools, writing pads, fun chewable vitamins, kid
tooth brushes, toothpaste, calculators.  I will do my best to never
buy toys for giving trees and if i do i will buy the basics.  I WILL
try to make sure that I always have kids IN my life that i know have
less than most so i can not only have the opportunity the share with
them personally, but also be able to talk to them about greed
advertising and EXTREME poverty the likes of which will never exist in
Asbury Park.

but this post started about FOOD.  



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: City Council Meetings Tonight

2007-12-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Excellent Werner!   One of your best!
 
 I always talk of Asbury Park with regards to another sci-fi show --
 
 trust no one
 
===

Thanks :-)

I found this:

Trust No One (2004)

Tagline:
Sometimes loyalty holds you captive.

Plot Outline:
Trust No One examines a world where greed, sex, deception and 
violent persuasion are the markers to maintaining order. Sometimes 
in life, loyalty supercedes the boundaries of what is just and right 
in the eyes of society. 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0426608/

What sci-fi are you referring to ?

Werner



 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: City Council Meetings Tonight

2007-12-05 Thread lightgrw
Excellent Werner!   One of your best!

I always talk of Asbury Park with regards to another sci-fi show -- 
trust no one

wernerapnj wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, James Keady james.keady@
 wrote:
  
   ASBURY PARK CITY COUNCIL
   WORKSHOP SESSION MEETING AGENDA
   DECEMBER 5, 2007 - 6PM
   OPEN TO THE PUBLIC
  
   III. Special Event Applications
   Madison Marquette
   Holiday Fireworks
   3rd and 5th Between Beaches
   11/30
 
  How is a Special Event application heard after the fact?

 =

 'There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is
 a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the
 middle ground between light and shadow, between science and
 superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the
 summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is
 an area which we call The Asbury Park Zone.'

 Werner

  



 
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[AsburyPark] City Council Meetings Tonight

2007-12-05 Thread James Keady
Friends of Asbury Park:

I am writing to inform you that the Asbury Park City Council will be meeting
tonight, Wednesday, December 5, 2007. The Executive Session begins at 5pm,
however this is not open to the public. The Workshop Session begins at 6pm
and the Regular Meeting begins at 7pm, these are both open to the public.

I have included the meeting agendas below and I encourage you to attend.
For your convenience I have also posted this information on my blog at
www.keadyreport.blogspot.com http://www.keadyreport.blogspot.com/ .  

 

I hope this finds you well.

Peace,

James W. Keady, Councilman
City of Asbury Park, NJ

ASBURY PARK CITY COUNCIL
EXECUTIVE SESSION MEETING AGENDA
DECEMBER 5, 2007 - 5PM
CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC

I. Contract Negotiations
a. WRA Subsequent Developer's Report
b. Interfaith Neighbors
c. YMCA Building (Mr. Brian Grant)

II. Litigation
a. Metropolitan Hotel

III. Personnel
a. Professional Appointments
1. Attorneys: City, Redevelopment, Bond, Conflict Redevelopment, Workers'
Comp, Tax Appeals, Tax Foreclosure, General Conflict, and Special Auditor
2. Auditor
3. Appraisal
4. Chief Finance Officer

ASBURY PARK CITY COUNCIL
WORKSHOP SESSION MEETING AGENDA
DECEMBER 5, 2007 - 6PM
OPEN TO THE PUBLIC
I. Review of Regular Agenda Items

II. Items Presented by Thomas Gilmour, Commerce Director
1. Asbury Works Lease and Relocation Funding
2. Lease Project Amendment to Increase Funding

III. Special Event Applications
Madison Marquette
Holiday Fireworks
3rd and 5th Between Beaches
11/30

IV. Asbury Park Sustainability Committee, Tom Pivinski - Member

V. Springwood Avenue Redevelopment Plan Recommendations from the Planning
Board, Don Sammet, Redevelopment and Planning Director 

VI. Matters to be introduced by City Council

VII. Matters to be introduced by City Attorney

VIII. Matters to be introduced by City Manager

IX. Matters to be introduced by Assistant City Manager

ASBURY PARK CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR PUBLIC MEETING AGENDA
DECEMBER 5, 2007 - 7PM
OPEN TO THE PUBLIC

SILENT PRAYER/MOMENT OF REFLECTION

SALUTE TO THE FLAG

ANNOUNCEMENT BY MAYOR SANDERS - as to compliance with Open Public Meetings
Act, Chapter 231, P.L. 1975 ,that adequate notice of this meeting has been
provided in the following manner: The Annual Notice was forwarded to the
Asbury Park Press, The Coaster, and Star Ledger on December 27, 2007, and
posted on the City bulletin board the same date. All notices are on file
with the City Clerk.

1. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
RM 10/17/07 (CM Loffredo and DM Bruno absent)
RM 11/7/07 (Mayor Sanders absent)
RM 11/19/07 (CM Loffredo and Mayor Sanders absent)

3. PAYROLL RESOLUTION:

4. BILL RESOLUTION + Inservco

5. APPLICATIONS/LIQUOR LICENSES:
(a) Raffle License - Little League - RL:15-2007
(b) Liquor Transfer - Red Fusion license

6. RESOLUTIONS:
(a) Appointments/Re-Appointments (Finance Officer)
(b) Items from the Tax Collector
(c) Increase Municipal Court Change Fund
(d) Senior Center Rental Agreement with Seaview Towers
(e) Retain LGA Engineering, Inc. $25K

7. ORDINANCES: Introduction: None
ORDINANCES: Public Hearing: Adv. 11/21/07 - The Coaster
(a) Increase liquor license fees and eliminate retirement fund fee of 
$200.00 per year

8. DECISION ON BIDS - 1511 Park Avenue (RCA Project)

 

Councilman James W. Keady

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Asbury Park, NJ 07712

TEL: 732.502.5196

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[AsburyPark] Re: Bush Freezing Sub-Prime Rates?

2007-12-05 Thread evosap
assuming i think you should vote for bill's wife when i suggest you
got what you deserve for supporting a criminal and a liar is a
leap...a pretty big one.  you have lots of simple democrats on
estrogen in your life?

ron paul is looking decent to me...the only one so far to support the
american freedom agenda act.  i love kucinich, nader will always be a
man of incredible intelligence and integrity to me, though his gifts
have already been given and denied.  

we are a long way from a president who will truly serve, and it's our
fault.  we watch too much tv, have forgotten what it is to be a
patriot...most think it means following and bowing to power...we are
greedy and therefore allow greed in our leaders...on and on.   we
truly need to take back our beautiful country...no one person can do
that or should be expected to.   i feel my ancestors weeping in my
bones.  



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Main Street Revitalized by Renovations of Old Theaters

2007-12-05 Thread Jack Pitzer
Meanwhile, theater owner Larry Fishman is letting The Baronet rot into
the ground...

-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, theshortsalepro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I recall a few years back a successful movie theater owner/manager was 
 approached (I don't know who approached him) to renovate an 
 underperforming/derelict theater in AP to restore it to its original 
 stature.
 
 The catch?  He would have to build, open and manage a movie theater in 
 Niagra Falls, NY.
 
 Netflix, Blockbuster, etc. has challenged the industry.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Bush Freezing Sub-Prime Rates?

2007-12-05 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 assuming i think you should vote for bill's wife when i suggest you
 got what you deserve for supporting a criminal and a liar is a
 leap...a pretty big one.  

If you didn't get it, then you didn't read the article I posted.



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: PEE WEE

2007-12-05 Thread 2fine4u
Can you put that in writing?  I'm all for it!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
 justifiedright@ wrote:
 
  Interesting, Dan.  For the past couple of months you've pushed for 
  a let's put the past behind us and move forward together agenda, a 
  stark contrast to the past several years of trying to uncover some 
  sort of malfeasance by various parites.
  
  You've also thrown serveral nice comments Terry Reidy's way of late.
  
  Now the Deputy Mayor, once a fairly frequent target of yours, is 
  emailing you in what appears to be a social setting.
  
  Is there any disclosures in order here? :-)
 
 They promised me they would support me in my bid to be mayor in the
 next election.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Bush Freezing Sub-Prime Rates?

2007-12-05 Thread justifiedright
Are you then suggesting I should not vote for Hillary either?


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did you vote for him?maybe that's what you are getting punished 
for.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Main Street Revitalized by Renovations of Old Theaters

2007-12-05 Thread Kevin Brown
The Barronette would make a nice contemporary church.  Livly worship 
pentecostal preaching and wonderful family oriented activities.

KB

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Meanwhile, theater owner Larry Fishman is letting The Baronet rot 
into
 the ground...
 
 -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, theshortsalepro njdave@ wrote:
 
  I recall a few years back a successful movie theater 
owner/manager was 
  approached (I don't know who approached him) to renovate an 
  underperforming/derelict theater in AP to restore it to its 
original 
  stature.
  
  The catch?  He would have to build, open and manage a movie 
theater in 
  Niagra Falls, NY.
  
  Netflix, Blockbuster, etc. has challenged the industry.
 





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: BUCKS Schleping for Wii End Toys

2007-12-05 Thread 2fine4u
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 12/3/2007 2:23:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The first tag we pulled - a request for
 a certain wii game. This started a discussion amongst our family. We
 don't have a wii
 console, because it is $250.00 and I told my kids I'm not spending that
 much money on a toy (even though they really want one).

Man, people with less means, buy their kids this stuff!  Not saying
it's right, but kids need to have their expectations, LOWERED!  Since
they are bombarded with the buy me advertisements, I can't blame
them, for wanting one.  When you received $25.00, that amount is
equivalent to the high cost of kids things, now.  Hell!  A Soda cost a
nickle, candy bars, chips were all 5 cents!  They cost a dollar and
upwards, now.  Kids now, don't even know what penny candy, is!
 
 What do you think? I say back to stick ball, tinker toys, and
 Etch-a-Sketch. Steven
 Weber is a bit more of a curmudgeon today.  A snippet:   That's why, I'm
 not proud to say at the start of another Christmas season, things suck

They do and they don't.  Depends where you are in the scheme of
things.  It's up to YOU to be happy, in the Christmas mood, of old. 
Then be determined to have a Christmas that is more thoughtful, of why
the Holiday is celebrated, at all!  I used to think, it was the
celebration of an ordinary boy, who would do extraordinary things!

CNN and FOX are retarded

No doubt!  They started the divisive Red State/Blue State thing that
dredges up North against the South, supposedly decided in 1865! 
Remember CNN is anchored in Atlanta!  Gen. Sherman, was never forgiven
for burning it.  Even though the South lost the battles, they STILL
won the war!  All of our military installations, going south.  All
your rocket boosters, manufactured in the South.  Where is NASA? 
Texas?  Where do we take off and land?  Florida?  During
Reconstruction, the Klan was started to let the Blacks know, hey,
we're STILL in charge, of YOU!  The rest is HIS-story!


 brutes compared to, say, the BBC World News, which has a far more
 catholic response to the expectations of its audience. But back in
 America, 

Don't know WHAT, this means?  Catholic response?

mass mediocrity has become the adhesive that binds its
 citizenry who are no longer incentivized to want better education, to be
 more vigilant about food and product safety, to expect responsible civil
 service and to dare hope for accountable leaders. 

This is to the point of criminal!

I think this is perception, in scope!  More than 50% of Americans,
know exactly what's going on.  If the media, which is owned by the
Corporations DON'T broadcast public opinion, to protect THEIR bottom
line, it is perceived that we are asleep and accept the status quo!
Were it not for the internet and listener sponsored media, we'd really
be Dumb N Dumber!  Those who seek the truth, find it!


That stuff is so
 Greatest Generation. 

You can say that, again!

 know...).  Steven Weber: The Journey of a Thousand Miles Begins With One
 Schlepp - Politics on The Huffington Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-weber/the-journey-of-a-thousand_b_\
 75017.html

Good piece!  Don't agree with everything, but a good read!  It's a
wake up call!



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Bush Freezing Sub-Prime Rates?

2007-12-05 Thread Jack Pitzer
Even though I'm a democrat, I'm thinking of changing parties and voting for Ron 
Paul.
He's  the least media whore of all the candidates, and the one with the most 
common 
sense in my opinion.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 assuming i think you should vote for bill's wife when i suggest you
 got what you deserve for supporting a criminal and a liar is a
 leap...a pretty big one.  you have lots of simple democrats on
 estrogen in your life?
 
 ron paul is looking decent to me...the only one so far to support the
 american freedom agenda act.  i love kucinich, nader will always be a
 man of incredible intelligence and integrity to me, though his gifts
 have already been given and denied.  
 
 we are a long way from a president who will truly serve, and it's our
 fault.  we watch too much tv, have forgotten what it is to be a
 patriot...most think it means following and bowing to power...we are
 greedy and therefore allow greed in our leaders...on and on.   we
 truly need to take back our beautiful country...no one person can do
 that or should be expected to.   i feel my ancestors weeping in my
 bones.






 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Bush Freezing Sub-Prime Rates?

2007-12-05 Thread justifiedright
I'm in a quandry. Still looking at everyone.  



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Even though I'm a democrat, I'm thinking of changing parties and 
voting for Ron Paul.
 He's  the least media whore of all the candidates, and the one 
with the most common 
 sense in my opinion.
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap gabrielleobre@ wrote:
 
  assuming i think you should vote for bill's wife when i suggest 
you
  got what you deserve for supporting a criminal and a liar is a
  leap...a pretty big one.  you have lots of simple democrats on
  estrogen in your life?
  
  ron paul is looking decent to me...the only one so far to 
support the
  american freedom agenda act.  i love kucinich, nader will always 
be a
  man of incredible intelligence and integrity to me, though his 
gifts
  have already been given and denied.  
  
  we are a long way from a president who will truly serve, and 
it's our
  fault.  we watch too much tv, have forgotten what it is to be a
  patriot...most think it means following and bowing to power...we 
are
  greedy and therefore allow greed in our leaders...on and on.   we
  truly need to take back our beautiful country...no one person 
can do
  that or should be expected to.   i feel my ancestors weeping in 
my
  bones.
 





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Bush Freezing Sub-Prime Rates?

2007-12-05 Thread Jersey Shore John
So Henry Paulson is going to freeze the interest rates on home loans  
and Ben Bernanke is going to lower the Fed discount rate a whole  
point. It’s kind of like fishing with a shotgun in a glass bottom  
boat. You get a swimming lesson after you pull the trigger.


http://tinyurl.com/23jchx

What happens when you freeze the interest rates? Go out and try to  
buy any house with financing, its just isn’t going to be there. What  
businessman will loan money under fixed assumptions only to be paid  
under a changing set of rules. Georgia a while back passed a law to  
protect homeowners and effectively shut down the loan industry in the  
state. This is the old “Pull the rug out from under the lender routine.”


Then we have Bernanke lowering the Fed funds rate. It doesn't take  
much thinking to figure out that the exchange rate on the dollar will  
fall. In this case, smart money will refuse to renew their Treasury  
Bills. Since it’s competitive bidding, less bidders, means higher  
prices. There is a couple of trillion dollars that could vote with  
feet. Foreigners will sell the dollar now and wait. Then buy when it  
hits bottom. If things don’t go right, this could be like catching a  
bag of cement dropped from the second floor (messy to say the least).  
Treasury bill rates could surge up as soon as tomorrow.

[AsburyPark] Re: Bush Freezing Sub-Prime Rates?

2007-12-05 Thread evosap
your right...didn't read it...reading malkin would be like listening
to limbaugh.  there is a world of possibilities beyond clinton and
bush..they both bore the shit out of me



 
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