[AsburyPark] Happy Turkey Day..
As much as some of you dislike hearing from me Regardless, Asbury Park has my heart felt wishes to get its act together and be outstanding. Happy Thanksgiving ! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stone Pony Closing for Repairs....
Yes I have, Whats your point ? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap newbeetoap@ wrote: Now thats a shame its one of the only authentic music venues left. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: HAve you ever been in there?? now that my daughter has been there, I've warned her to be by a door. It needs some work. It IS a draw and will continue to be a draw. Just needs some work. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stone Pony Closing for Repairs....
WoW.. pawprint is a gem a human be-in. Unlike some of the nastys in this group. Perhaps is takes 'outsiders' like him and me to see things --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Long before James A. Bradley was even born, Cobblers were crafting shoes and boots for communities when the family of the Cobbler walked barefoot or in less than comfortable footwear. Werner has a personal situation, exacerbated by personal and offical attacks, yet still shares his wisdom for the greater good of the city. Let us recall that those attacks have cost Werner money and esteem. I ask all of you to put yourselves in Werner's shoes and think again. How many of us have actually been forced into a corner without a resource but are still willing to share our knowledge. Not me, well, maybe, I have learned from a great teacher. With a few exceptions that I am aware of, many of Werner's critics on this forum have never met Werner. I have. Werner could win the majority of debates and if he lost, would conceded with grandeur. My best advice to all of you is that if you choose to attack, make certain that your know your opponent well. That man in the scary house might actualy be the guy watching your back! As we watch the economy bundgy jumping, we must realize that any one of us may face the budget that Werner deals with daily. Would any of YOU be willing to take time away from your own situation to attempt to better the situation of those around you? Would you? This is just my opinion, but please try to think out of the box. Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Werner has plenty of great ideas, and your attack on him was uncalled for. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, maubddny filecabinet768@ wrote: Werner, Do you honestly think anyone cares about your recomendations? You blow so much hot air that even if you came up with a good idea, nobody would bother to listen to it. I think everyone would take your recomendations more seriously if you fixed up your own property first, and then worried about the rest of the town. Visionary, VISIONARY... Guess we are the only ones. I have recommended many times that the Pony be retained and enlarged on the current site. Unfortunately those in charge are myopic. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Why is it we miss a simple attraction to AP???
And why must everything be designed in 'suburban-stucco-modern' architechture ? I'm still picturing that bandstand building, how badly it was butchered architecturally. And how easy it would have been to preserve it as the really unique piece of AP that it is. It would still be occupied by the same businesses. Nothing would be different except it would look like its supposed to, like it was designed to be. And the bandstand would be usable. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't the simplest, and most obvious attraction to AP it's music scene? If we still had as many venues as we once had, and outdoor summer concerts on the beach, and the Arthur Pryor Bandshell in use, then we'd plenty to attact people. The city lost a huge opportunity by letting it's musical heritage slip away. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: It was given to AP years ago and some creative historian may have already suggested, but I don't know There isn't a Morro Castle display, memorial, replicas (in the works...), etc watch for them soon. Would be interesting to have that some place on the boardwalk. The real history of AP's real glory days or gay days lay around just waiting for someone else to trip over them. Not many towns have such documented history hidden away. Add to that AP's undocumented history... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Logic ????
Many communities adopt lighting design standards because they recognize its the right thing to do. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but why should Ocean Grove have to deal with AP's excessive lighting? And why should the city be paying huge electric bills for lights that are on at times when there's nobody around? Appropriate lighting is great. Excessive lighting, like what we currently have, is a waste, not attractive and is an annoyance to residents who have to deal with it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: Things were done a certain way in 1900 Therefore - it should be done that way now. 'Brilliant' Logic. I'm going to rip out my kitchen floor and go back to dirt. Then run outside to the outhouse and ... Or perhaps move to Montana soon and live in a cabin where that may actually be the norm. Werner Strawman. That light is inviting and safe and dark is scary is a concept unchanged since the dawn of consciousness. There is simple no way around that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..
Hi New Beetoap, I have been compared with you by at least one person in this group and I feel the need to share with your observations. - We are both relatively new to AP - Neither of us lives within the City of AP. - We both make occasional visits (I suspect that I visit more often than you do, I may be wrong.) Here is my story: I visited AP for the first time in 1999. After a nearly 4 hour trip to Six Flags and dealing with a rainy day, I called a former co- worker from Morristown and asked if there was ANYTHING else to do in the area. I was encouraged to visit Paradise in Asbury Park. I had never heard of Asbury Park, NJ. I had three friends with me and I followed the directions precisely (no GPS's back then.) My friends were very vocal as we drove east on Asbury Avenue: What is this, Bosnia?; There are better places in Sarajevo. I parked the car and we all stared at Paradise. It was an Oasis in a sea of crap. That was 1999. I stepped out of my car onto a TILED parking lot knowing NOTHING about A.P., I did not realize that I was standing on the former floor tile of the Plaza Hotel. I actually thought that the parking lot had been tiled. THEN, I saw The Palace. It scared the crap out of me in the dark! Yes, Paradise was terrific, but I could not get the rest of A.P. out of my mind. I have spent the last 8 years learning as much as I can about the former Jewel of the Jersey Shore. I agree with you, there have been many un-truths in advertising. Hell, if Kellogg's changes the picture on the box of Cornflakes, they can legally call the product New and Improved! Sure, dates have been missed, there are always obstacles to overcome and it all takes time. I am hoping that you realize that when you are critical of Asbury Park - specifically in this Yahoo Group that you are not being critical of the Development Team or the City - you are being critical of the residents and the fans of Asbury Park. The majority of the residents of Asbury Park, until very recently, lived in a city which was spiraling into decline. When you post here and challenge the milestones (I agree that they are late in coming), you are in a way degrading the hope of a LOT of very hopeful people. I recall when Charlie was posting regularly and he had some disdain, I would try to encourage Charlie to go out, meet and talk to the people of Asbury Park. New Bee, you would not believe what wonderful people are in Asbury Park! Charlie seems to be away, but I hope that he got to meet as many special people as I have met. I encourage you to visit Asbury Park more often and to actually meet the people of Asbury Park. You will discover that these people are optimistic for the first time in decades. You appear to have an issue with improvements not happening on- time... SHIT... the people of Asbury Park see it so differently - and so do I! When the City that you love has been in a backward spiral, any millimeter forward is a good thing. Is this a historic restoration, yes and no. I would be remiss if not mentioning Werner. Werner would say no and yes... possibly, simply NO. I guess that I have a different take on that. Should it be historically restored? Well, I am not sure... should history live on? Yes! I believe in Werner. New Beetoap, you cannot change A.P., or the pace that the changes are happening... I visit as regularly as I can, I spend time with the people of Asbury Park and I encourage you to do the same. We walk the boards, talk about what we like and dislike and I hope for the best for the City and its residents. Thing ARE changing and those things have very little to do with the Boardwalk. When did we last hear Hinge mention front-yard prostitutes or garbage on his lawn? When was the most recent murder? What about Library Square Park? Local residents are bringing their kids to AP at NIGHT! Maybe YOU do not see change, but I do. I am not sure that I like being compared to you, but I certainly hope that I have explained why. Asbury Park is more than a destination with a Kick-Ass history. Asbury Park is a History-Rich City of people whom deserve the respect and our support to make new history. Just to name a few valuable causes in the city: The Asbury Park Little League. The Bike Church. ARTSCAP. MANY more! If you really have a love of this city, please look outside of the boardwalk box and re-focus your attention in the REAL city.. Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As much as some of you dislike hearing from me Regardless, Asbury Park has my heart felt wishes to get its act together and be outstanding. Happy Thanksgiving ! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to:
