[AsburyPark] Re: IStar in Bankruptcy
That would be great. Something that would make sense, at last, looking at the larger picture. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Given the news (iStar Financial is mulling a strategic bankruptcy), the company should ultimately come out of it - if it happens - cleaner, and technically make SFI more valuable rather than less valuable I am wondering (and I have passed that message along) whether this would trigger the bankruptcy provision of the WRA and allow the City to take back the development area. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Is AP preparing to demolish The Baronet?
Exactly. I guess the point is that someone has to monitor when these things are happening and I'm not sure how but prevent it from getting to that point ... Same thing happened with Palace Amusements and the city let it (enabled it? encouraged it ... to) happen. (Was recently reading the history *there*.) Cathryn. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Someone who is better at writing than me, should put together an email showing the displeasure with knocking everything down, in some nice, but stern words, then we should all hammer Reidy and Gilmour with said emails I don't understand how they let so much get torn down It's called demolition by neglect. After nearly 100 years, Baronet Theatre torn down in Asbury Park By NANCY SHIELDS � STAFF WRITER � September 22, 2010 * Comments (28) * Recommend (1) * Print this page * E-mail this article * Share o Del.icio.us o Facebook o Digg o Reddit o Newsvine o o Twitter o FarkIt * * Type Size A A A ASBURY PARK � The nearly 100-year-old Baronet Theatre at 205 Fourth Ave. was razed Wednesday morning after being declared an imminent hazard due to an interior structural collapse, city Fire Official Garrett Giberson said. The 546-seat theatre first opened in 1913 as the Ocean Theatre, but had operated only on an intermittent basis in recent decades. It finally closed for good the past few years after being purchased by Asbury Partners, the beachfront redeveloper. Asbury Lanes, the popular bowling and live music venue next door at 209 Fourth Ave. was not affected, Giberson said. Related Giberson said the roof of the Baronet caved in to the interior of the theatre, probably sometime during the winter. With the conditions found there, there was no saving it at this point,'' Giberson said. Mazza Demolition was on site razing the building, he said. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Is AP preparing to demolish The Baronet?
Interesting in 2006 it was still believed the building was in good shape. Thanks for this link, Sharon. This article was in the comments with this quote: This is a masonry building, so it's in good shape, he said. I wonder if there are pictures somewhere of what it looked like. Cathryn. * THE ELEMENT OF TIMING Baronet Theatre revival expected by summer Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 04/6/06 BY VINCE MILLER STAFF WRITER The 93-year-old Baronet Theatre in Asbury Park could light back up before the summer with films, cabaret and live theater, according to its latest owners. The plan is to restore the theater and the Fast Lane nightclub next door as the centerpiece of a vibrant Fourth Avenue entertainment district in Asbury Park, and the owners say they are feeling the local support. Asbury Park real-estate developer Pat Fasano and partner Dennis Dubrow, Oceanport, bought the properties in December for $1.2 million, Dubrow said. Fasano, who lives in New Brunswick, also owns the Wonder Bar at Fifth and Ocean avenues, and several shops on Cookman Avenue, Fasano said. Being one block from the boardwalk, though, the theater and the defunct nightclub next door are in an oceanfront redevelopment zone, so their future depends on Asbury Partners, developers of the area, and city officials. Dubrow said he and Fasano were not encouraged by an initial meeting they had with Larry Fishman, chief operating officer of Asbury Partners. Fishman could not be reached for comment. Undaunted, the partners have received building permits and plan to spend up to $100,000 to fix up the buildings. Renovation work began March 23. The partners hope to unveil the theater, with historic architectural features intact, by summer. We've contracted with Days Awake, a local band, to play for our opening night fund-raiser, Dubrow said. We didn't want to invest more than $100,000 until we have a certificate of occupancy, Dubrow said. The work includes replacing walls and ceilings, washing all 500 seats and installing new carpet, he said. Fire exits and the roof are being fixed, and the heating and air-conditioning units improved. This is a masonry building, so it's in good shape, he said. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon sharon_b...@... wrote: Hinge, I found this link: http://cinematreasures.org/theater/6643/ A good read. It's times like this, I realize that without money, clout and connections, WE, THE PEOPLE, are helpless to effect the saving of Historical Landmarks, in and around Asbury Park. The powers that BE, seem to prefer whatever THEY want to do! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Sounds like the roof caved it. I think we can pretty much kiss that building goodbye in that case. Hopefully somebody will have the wisdom to save the projectors, although I think it would be a complete waste of time to reach out the in ineffective AP Historical Society. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: So you want to save a theatre?
so true. And if you argue about things being torn down, people shrug and say you don't like change. Things change. Yes, of course, things change but things can also be preserved. There's something special about certain places and that certain 'something' should be preserved. People destroy the thing that enticed people to the area - a certain charm, as if the ocean and boardwalk are the only things worthwhile to Asbury's history. Are there any activist groups working on this even back when the redevelopment began? I can't figure it out. I live in NYC and there would be people protesting/doing something. I know there's a group that was working on the destruction of the trees issue. Cathryn. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hing...@... wrote: Forget it. AP could give a shit about it's history. It's the American way. We don't build things to last for generations. This country is more about homogenization that preserving and building character. It's ironic that one could go to Europe, and live in, shop in, and visit buildings created 500 years ago, and they are doing fine, but in this backwards country, we can't even hold onto things built 100 years ago. It's pathetic... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: I might of posted this a few years ago. There's another theatre on 7th right off kingsley. It was the Adams Novelty company - you know those hand buzzers and all sorts of neat junk you get at parties etc. Now it's a warehouse - for as long the owner keeps it from the partners and eminent domain (I think his offer was around $200k or less a few years back. LAst I checked in with him, he was still there. The building has history - as Steinbach 's warehouse, as a theatre (no, I don't know what it was called - I think Helen Pike might of taken this task on..) So it's there - in great shape, the same style as the fastlane - someday it will meet the wrecking ball. Jsut no one really knows anything about it. The MK was one the best looking buildings to have been demolished. Nice to see the FF building being used for something so practical like a warehouse. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Is AP preparing to demolish The Baronet?
Cathryn, My interest in the theatre, is because of my children, who were raised in nearby Neptune Township. Back in the 70's, a really good, funny movie with lessons learned how even crazy adults can get involved in the well being of children. It was The Bad News Bears! Whenever the movie airs on TCM, Bravo or any of the regular cable channels, I watch, get a box of Kleenex and relive my childrens childhood. Everybody, since I was born, grownups were in my estimation, thought that kids were a real bother! I don't know where my parents got the energy and even nerve, to raise a hellion like me! Lucky for me, I was in Parochial Schools all my life, until I married and found out how the real world is. When I had kids of my own, I vowed to make growing up almost effortless. It gave me another chance to have a second childhood. When I came East to live here, I found another society, so different from the one I knew in the Deep South. I conformed. Living in Neptune, we naturally migrated to Asbury Park, every Spring and Summer. When the kids were old enough to bicycle down to the Palace and Boardwalk, they would come home with their photo booth pictures, won cheap prizes and bragged who had the most fun! The Baronet, Palace, Convention Hall, Cookman Ave. and even Mattison Ave., where the dentist was, all all of the memories, my kids have of growing up in a unique, loving way. Perfect? No, but since they all live out of State now, it seems their memories can only be kept in their mind, because they no longer exist. Glad you enjoyed the link. I read every word. Sharon --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cathrynbe2002 cathryn...@... wrote: Interesting in 2006 it was still believed the building was in good shape. Thanks for this link, Sharon. This article was in the comments with this quote: This is a masonry building, so it's in good shape, he said. I wonder if there are pictures somewhere of what it looked like. Cathryn. * THE ELEMENT OF TIMING Baronet Theatre revival expected by summer Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 04/6/06 BY VINCE MILLER STAFF WRITER The 93-year-old Baronet Theatre in Asbury Park could light back up before the summer with films, cabaret and live theater, according to its latest owners. The plan is to restore the theater and the Fast Lane nightclub next door as the centerpiece of a vibrant Fourth Avenue entertainment district in Asbury Park, and the owners say they are feeling the local support. Asbury Park real-estate developer Pat Fasano and partner Dennis Dubrow, Oceanport, bought the properties in December for $1.2 million, Dubrow said. Fasano, who lives in New Brunswick, also owns the Wonder Bar at Fifth and Ocean avenues, and several shops on Cookman Avenue, Fasano said. Being one block from the boardwalk, though, the theater and the defunct nightclub next door are in an oceanfront redevelopment zone, so their future depends on Asbury Partners, developers of the area, and city officials. Dubrow said he and Fasano were not encouraged by an initial meeting they had with Larry Fishman, chief operating officer of Asbury Partners. Fishman could not be reached for comment. Undaunted, the partners have received building permits and plan to spend up to $100,000 to fix up the buildings. Renovation work began March 23. The partners hope to unveil the theater, with historic architectural features intact, by summer. We've contracted with Days Awake, a local band, to play for our opening night fund-raiser, Dubrow said. We didn't want to invest more than $100,000 until we have a certificate of occupancy, Dubrow said. The work includes replacing walls and ceilings, washing all 500 seats and installing new carpet, he said. Fire exits and the roof are being fixed, and the heating and air-conditioning units improved. This is a masonry building, so it's in good shape, he said. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon sharon_b283@ wrote: Hinge, I found this link: http://cinematreasures.org/theater/6643/ A good read. It's times like this, I realize that without money, clout and connections, WE, THE PEOPLE, are helpless to effect the saving of Historical Landmarks, in and around Asbury Park. The powers that BE, seem to prefer whatever THEY want to do! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Sounds like the roof caved it. I think we can pretty much kiss that building goodbye in that case. Hopefully somebody will have the wisdom to save the projectors, although I think it would be a complete waste of time to reach out the in ineffective AP Historical Society. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: So you want to save a theatre?
Here's what pisses me off about this town - recently the topic of the Baronet was brought up in town council meetings and no one indicated anything about the roof collapsingthe only thing mentioned was that there was a mold issue which would need to be addressed. I find it hard to believe that the owners suddenly realized that the roof had collapsed after such a brutally hard winter (didn't anyone check on their investment?). I am not a builder or an expert on construction, but wouldn't it be possible for someone to incorporate elements of the old structure within a renovation project - and yes, I know that would require someone with $$$ to buy/renovate, but in the same way that the Charms Building with all its history was leveled to make way for a nice new vacant lot, couldn't someone with vision have looked at other alternatives??? In the haste to rebuild and redevelop this town, it seems that certain parties are interested in taking down any links to the past and making this look like dozens of cookie-cutter developments that dot Texas, Illinois, Maryland, etc. History has its place in this city - in fact, it's a huge part of what we are and who we are. To ignore it (or cover it up under new facades and shiny chrome and concrete structures) is doing a huge disservice to everyone who lived here, lives here, or wants to live here. We don't need to become another Long Branch or another Pier Village - the last thing we need is another parking lot (which can charge $10 - 20.00 for the right to park), or a vacant lot. Guess it's only a matter of time before the Casino comes down behind claims and comments about how it is structurally unsafe From: Hinge hing...@yahoo.com To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 23, 2010 12:59:56 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: So you want to save a theatre? Forget it. AP could give a shit about it's history. It's the American way. We don't build things to last for generations. This country is more about homogenization that preserving and building character. It's ironic that one could go to Europe, and live in, shop in, and visit buildings created 500 years ago, and they are doing fine, but in this backwards country, we can't even hold onto things built 100 years ago. It's pathetic... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: I might of posted this a few years ago. There's another theatre on 7th right off kingsley. It was the Adams Novelty company - you know those hand buzzers and all sorts of neat junk you get at parties etc. Now it's a warehouse - for as long the owner keeps it from the partners and eminent domain (I think his offer was around $200k or less a few years back. LAst I checked in with him, he was still there. The building has history - as Steinbach 's warehouse, as a theatre (no, I don't know what it was called - I think Helen Pike might of taken this task on..) So it's there - in great shape, the same style as the fastlane - someday it will meet the wrecking ball. Jsut no one really knows anything about it. The MK was one the best looking buildings to have been demolished. Nice to see the FF building being used for something so practical like a warehouse. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Is AP preparing to demolish The Baronet?
That was to force Partners to buy it from them which they did at a profit. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cathrynbe2002 cathryn...@... wrote: Interesting in 2006 it was still believed the building was in good shape. Thanks for this link, Sharon. This article was in the comments with this quote: This is a masonry building, so it's in good shape, he said. I wonder if there are pictures somewhere of what it looked like. Cathryn. * THE ELEMENT OF TIMING Baronet Theatre revival expected by summer Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 04/6/06 BY VINCE MILLER STAFF WRITER The 93-year-old Baronet Theatre in Asbury Park could light back up before the summer with films, cabaret and live theater, according to its latest owners. The plan is to restore the theater and the Fast Lane nightclub next door as the centerpiece of a vibrant Fourth Avenue entertainment district in Asbury Park, and the owners say they are feeling the local support. Asbury Park real-estate developer Pat Fasano and partner Dennis Dubrow, Oceanport, bought the properties in December for $1.2 million, Dubrow said. Fasano, who lives in New Brunswick, also owns the Wonder Bar at Fifth and Ocean avenues, and several shops on Cookman Avenue, Fasano said. Being one block from the boardwalk, though, the theater and the defunct nightclub next door are in an oceanfront redevelopment zone, so their future depends on Asbury Partners, developers of the area, and city officials. Dubrow said he and Fasano were not encouraged by an initial meeting they had with Larry Fishman, chief operating officer of Asbury Partners. Fishman could not be reached for comment. Undaunted, the partners have received building permits and plan to spend up to $100,000 to fix up the buildings. Renovation work began March 23. The partners hope to unveil the theater, with historic architectural features intact, by summer. We've contracted with Days Awake, a local band, to play for our opening night fund-raiser, Dubrow said. We didn't want to invest more than $100,000 until we have a certificate of occupancy, Dubrow said. The work includes replacing walls and ceilings, washing all 500 seats and installing new carpet, he said. Fire exits and the roof are being fixed, and the heating and air-conditioning units improved. This is a masonry building, so it's in good shape, he said. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon sharon_b283@ wrote: Hinge, I found this link: http://cinematreasures.org/theater/6643/ A good read. It's times like this, I realize that without money, clout and connections, WE, THE PEOPLE, are helpless to effect the saving of Historical Landmarks, in and around Asbury Park. The powers that BE, seem to prefer whatever THEY want to do! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Sounds like the roof caved it. I think we can pretty much kiss that building goodbye in that case. Hopefully somebody will have the wisdom to save the projectors, although I think it would be a complete waste of time to reach out the in ineffective AP Historical Society. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Is AP preparing to demolish The Baronet?
Wouldn't make sense to put 'theater' in the theater a carousel in the carousel house?? Maybe it's too simple... William Carroll Associate Broker RE/MAX Masters Fayetteville, NY 315-449-9944 x366 315-449-0304 fax 315-430-9092 cellular www.movesyracuse.com -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsav...@yahoo.com To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Sep 23, 2010 11:54 am Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Is AP preparing to demolish The Baronet? That was to force Partners to buy it from them which they did at a profit. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cathrynbe2002 cathryn...@... wrote: Interesting in 2006 it was still believed the building was in good shape. Thanks for this link, Sharon. This article was in the comments with this quote: This is a masonry building, so it's in good shape, he said. I wonder if there are pictures somewhere of what it looked like. Cathryn. * THE ELEMENT OF TIMING Baronet Theatre revival expected by summer Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 04/6/06 BY VINCE MILLER STAFF WRITER The 93-year-old Baronet Theatre in Asbury Park could light back up before the summer with films, cabaret and live theater, according to its latest owners. The plan is to restore the theater and the Fast Lane nightclub next door as the centerpiece of a vibrant Fourth Avenue entertainment district in Asbury Park, and the owners say they are feeling the local support. Asbury Park real-estate developer Pat Fasano and partner Dennis Dubrow, Oceanport, bought the properties in December for $1.2 million, Dubrow said. Fasano, who lives in New Brunswick, also owns the Wonder Bar at Fifth and Ocean avenues, and several shops on Cookman Avenue, Fasano said. Being one block from the boardwalk, though, the theater and the defunct nightclub next door are in an oceanfront redevelopment zone, so their future depends on Asbury Partners, developers of the area, and city officials. Dubrow said he and Fasano were not encouraged by an initial meeting they had with Larry Fishman, chief operating officer of Asbury Partners. Fishman could not be reached for comment. Undaunted, the partners have received building permits and plan to spend up to $100,000 to fix up the buildings. Renovation work began March 23. The partners hope to unveil the theater, with historic architectural features intact, by summer. We've contracted with Days Awake, a local band, to play for our opening night fund-raiser, Dubrow said. We didn't want to invest more than $100,000 until we have a certificate of occupancy, Dubrow said. The work includes replacing walls and ceilings, washing all 500 seats and installing new carpet, he said. Fire exits and the roof are being fixed, and the heating and air-conditioning units improved. This is a masonry building, so it's in good shape, he said. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon sharon_b283@ wrote: Hinge, I found this link: http://cinematreasures.org/theater/6643/ A good read. It's times like this, I realize that without money, clout and connections, WE, THE PEOPLE, are helpless to effect the saving of Historical Landmarks, in and around Asbury Park. The powers that BE, seem to prefer whatever THEY want to do! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Sounds like the roof caved it. I think we can pretty much kiss that building goodbye in that case. Hopefully somebody will have the wisdom to save the projectors, although I think it would be a complete waste of time to reach out the in ineffective AP Historical Society. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Baronet's Gone! Let's look forward.
The Baronet is gone, gone, gone. Gone with the wind like the Mayfair, St James, and the Savoy. Why not summon all the anger and frustration into big time energy into joining ReVision as a member monthly Donating at their web site - big time support with the goal of helping them find a permanent home -- performance space/theater in Asbury Park? Either a new structure or something beautifully refurbished (not some old piece of crap no one else wants). Must be some professional grant writers out these who know how to start that ball rolling. Arts funding, stimulus monies? Anybody in city with that kind of know how? AP has come so far now that it is on the radar screen nationwide from what I can tell via various web and PR alerts. Must be some benefactors out there who are tuned in to the positive things that have been happening -- but also clever enough to detect the potential for what's still missing. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Is AP preparing to demolish The Baronet?
That makes too much sense, that's why Reidy would never let it happen Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Bill Carroll bjc...@aol.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:27:49 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Is AP preparing to demolish The Baronet? Wouldn't make sense to put 'theater' in the theater a carousel in the carousel house?? Maybe it's too simple... William Carroll Associate Broker RE/MAX Masters Fayetteville, NY 315-449-9944 x366 315-449-0304 fax 315-430-9092 cellular www.movesyracuse.com -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsav...@yahoo.com To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Sep 23, 2010 11:54 am Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Is AP preparing to demolish The Baronet? That was to force Partners to buy it from them which they did at a profit. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cathrynbe2002 cathryn...@... wrote: Interesting in 2006 it was still believed the building was in good shape. Thanks for this link, Sharon. This article was in the comments with this quote: This is a masonry building, so it's in good shape, he said. I wonder if there are pictures somewhere of what it looked like. Cathryn. * THE ELEMENT OF TIMING Baronet Theatre revival expected by summer Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 04/6/06 BY VINCE MILLER STAFF WRITER The 93-year-old Baronet Theatre in Asbury Park could light back up before the summer with films, cabaret and live theater, according to its latest owners. The plan is to restore the theater and the Fast Lane nightclub next door as the centerpiece of a vibrant Fourth Avenue entertainment district in Asbury Park, and the owners say they are feeling the local support. Asbury Park real-estate developer Pat Fasano and partner Dennis Dubrow, Oceanport, bought the properties in December for $1.2 million, Dubrow said. Fasano, who lives in New Brunswick, also owns the Wonder Bar at Fifth and Ocean avenues, and several shops on Cookman Avenue, Fasano said. Being one block from the boardwalk, though, the theater and the defunct nightclub next door are in an oceanfront redevelopment zone, so their future depends on Asbury Partners, developers of the area, and city officials. Dubrow said he and Fasano were not encouraged by an initial meeting they had with Larry Fishman, chief operating officer of Asbury Partners. Fishman could not be reached for comment. Undaunted, the partners have received building permits and plan to spend up to $100,000 to fix up the buildings. Renovation work began March 23. The partners hope to unveil the theater, with historic architectural features intact, by summer. We've contracted with Days Awake, a local band, to play for our opening night fund-raiser, Dubrow said. We didn't want to invest more than $100,000 until we have a certificate of occupancy, Dubrow said. The work includes replacing walls and ceilings, washing all 500 seats and installing new carpet, he said. Fire exits and the roof are being fixed, and the heating and air-conditioning units improved. This is a masonry building, so it's in good shape, he said. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon sharon_b283@ wrote: Hinge, I found this link: http://cinematreasures.org/theater/6643/ A good read. It's times like this, I realize that without money, clout and connections, WE, THE PEOPLE, are helpless to effect the saving of Historical Landmarks, in and around Asbury Park. The powers that BE, seem to prefer whatever THEY want to do! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Sounds like the roof caved it. I think we can pretty much kiss that building goodbye in that case. Hopefully somebody will have the wisdom to save the projectors, although I think it would be a complete waste of time to reach out the in ineffective AP Historical Society. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Baronet's Gone!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: The Baronet is gone, gone, gone. Gone with the wind like the Mayfair, St James, and the Savoy. Why not summon all the anger and frustration into big time energy into joining ReVision as a member monthly Donating at their web site - big time support with the goal of helping them find a permanent home -- performance space/theater in Asbury Park? Either a new structure or something beautifully refurbished (not some old piece of crap no one else wants). Must be some professional grant writers out these who know how to start that ball rolling. Arts funding, stimulus monies? Anybody in city with that kind of know how? AP has come so far now that it is on the radar screen nationwide from what I can tell via various web and PR alerts. Must be some benefactors out there who are tuned in to the positive things that have been happening -- but also clever enough to detect the potential for what's still missing. Savoy may be beyond saving, but it is still there. Chopped up a bit, and the building is for sale. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Baronet's Gone! Let's look forward.
I'd support that. Although ReVision has had much success in the Carousel House, I'd think that they would agree that it is not the prime space. I personally rallied a while back to get the sister Carousel to the original Carousel back in that carousel house and I met with opposition that it should be *given* to ReVision. And, yes, there IS a sister Carousel and it was available. Maybe it still is. Anyhow. The issue at hand is theater. Personally, I have not witnessed ReVison performances (partly due to the the opposition of my effort and partly due to the fact that our schedules never mesh), but I have heard TERRIFIC reviews! I was in town for the Tommy dress rehearsal and what I saw was magnificent. ReVision needs better than a carousel house and there is a Carousel out there somewhere waiting for a home. I see the flip side too, Revison has kept the carousel house living. I also fear that the Casino and the Carousel House are falling subject to Demolition upon Neglect. Though, I suspect that the Arthur Pryor Bandshell will be the next loss. :-( Everything seems to start with the roof. I had additional information regarding the roof of the Baronet, sadly, that doesn't matter anymore. So, keep me in the loop with a home for ReVision. I still would like to see a Carousel in that Carousel House. All my best, Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: The Baronet is gone, gone, gone. Gone with the wind like the Mayfair, St James, and the Savoy. Why not summon all the anger and frustration into big time energy into joining ReVision as a member monthly Donating at their web site - big time support with the goal of helping them find a permanent home -- performance space/theater in Asbury Park? Either a new structure or something beautifully refurbished (not some old piece of crap no one else wants). Must be some professional grant writers out these who know how to start that ball rolling. Arts funding, stimulus monies? Anybody in city with that kind of know how? AP has come so far now that it is on the radar screen nationwide from what I can tell via various web and PR alerts. Must be some benefactors out there who are tuned in to the positive things that have been happening -- but also clever enough to detect the potential for what's still missing. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Baronet's Gone! Let's look forward.
I'd like to hear about more information on the roof Glenn, for an odd reason it still matters to me lol Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dapawprint dapawpr...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:58:08 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Baronet's Gone! Let's look forward. I'd support that. Although ReVision has had much success in the Carousel House, I'd think that they would agree that it is not the prime space. I personally rallied a while back to get the sister Carousel to the original Carousel back in that carousel house and I met with opposition that it should be *given* to ReVision. And, yes, there IS a sister Carousel and it was available. Maybe it still is. Anyhow. The issue at hand is theater. Personally, I have not witnessed ReVison performances (partly due to the the opposition of my effort and partly due to the fact that our schedules never mesh), but I have heard TERRIFIC reviews! I was in town for the Tommy dress rehearsal and what I saw was magnificent. ReVision needs better than a carousel house and there is a Carousel out there somewhere waiting for a home. I see the flip side too, Revison has kept the carousel house living. I also fear that the Casino and the Carousel House are falling subject to Demolition upon Neglect. Though, I suspect that the Arthur Pryor Bandshell will be the next loss. :-( Everything seems to start with the roof. I had additional information regarding the roof of the Baronet, sadly, that doesn't matter anymore. So, keep me in the loop with a home for ReVision. I still would like to see a Carousel in that Carousel House. All my best, Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: The Baronet is gone, gone, gone. Gone with the wind like the Mayfair, St James, and the Savoy. Why not summon all the anger and frustration into big time energy into joining ReVision as a member monthly Donating at their web site - big time support with the goal of helping them find a permanent home -- performance space/theater in Asbury Park? Either a new structure or something beautifully refurbished (not some old piece of crap no one else wants). Must be some professional grant writers out these who know how to start that ball rolling. Arts funding, stimulus monies? Anybody in city with that kind of know how? AP has come so far now that it is on the radar screen nationwide from what I can tell via various web and PR alerts. Must be some benefactors out there who are tuned in to the positive things that have been happening -- but also clever enough to detect the potential for what's still missing. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Baronet's Gone! Let's look forward.
What was wanted in AP: Burned, collapsed or was simply leveled. One of these days, someone will come up with an entertainment square - sure it will be the original - but it sure can tie on the downtown, the boardwalk and the residential areas. I'd to make it real - as I said I'd tie in all those old AP brand names. They might not be in the original, but the theme can live on. Shit, even Tillie found a new home on the Wonder Bar - is that right or wrong? sure sells shirts so is Tillie the face of AP, the Palace or the WB?? Do a survey one day outside the WB. There's names I know and names Mario knows even better. Call it fake or whatever. It will be ADA compliant, safe and draw a hell of alot of people. Not pier - but a fun and live entertainment district. That has always been MM's mantra in their lifestyle centers. This could be one that is REAL...and very cool. We all have visions. glad I don't get excited about them anymore. Visions need cash. A contempary art musuem, a music museum, a pinball musuem, a music studio, saving a building, opening a popcorn store or selling something with AP on it. It all takes money, time and ingenuity - and the land or building to take a shot at success or failure. You can't have a great music destination with no music studio, can you? Take some of the billions tossed at the schools and use some of that to have the BOE build a theatre - for the students that can be leased back per event to any theatre group. The problem is, everyone with a vision wants someone to provide prime space for nothing. Read about every musuem in the US - read about the Guggenheim. Better yet, try donating time to some cause or board without pulling your hair out. I'd rather watch sand blow across the beach. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Baronet's Gone! Let's look forward.
I think America, in general, suffers from an identity crisis...we don't have one. This countries communities have become so homogenized looking that it's just plain boring in my opinion. We had an amazing identity, but we lacked people that understood that it was vital to preserve it. What we get instead is a constant state of marginal rebuilding driven by an undercurrent of greed. Money rules, not cultural identity. Meanwhile, the block where the rotting hulk of the Esperanza sits continues to dominate our beachfront. Where's the outrage about that? Where's the plan to do something about it? Nowhere. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: What was wanted in AP: Burned, collapsed or was simply leveled. One of these days, someone will come up with an entertainment square - sure it will be the original - but it sure can tie on the downtown, the boardwalk and the residential areas. I'd to make it real - as I said I'd tie in all those old AP brand names. They might not be in the original, but the theme can live on. Shit, even Tillie found a new home on the Wonder Bar - is that right or wrong? sure sells shirts so is Tillie the face of AP, the Palace or the WB?? Do a survey one day outside the WB. There's names I know and names Mario knows even better. Call it fake or whatever. It will be ADA compliant, safe and draw a hell of alot of people. Not pier - but a fun and live entertainment district. That has always been MM's mantra in their lifestyle centers. This could be one that is REAL...and very cool. We all have visions. glad I don't get excited about them anymore. Visions need cash. A contempary art musuem, a music museum, a pinball musuem, a music studio, saving a building, opening a popcorn store or selling something with AP on it. It all takes money, time and ingenuity - and the land or building to take a shot at success or failure. You can't have a great music destination with no music studio, can you? Take some of the billions tossed at the schools and use some of that to have the BOE build a theatre - for the students that can be leased back per event to any theatre group. The problem is, everyone with a vision wants someone to provide prime space for nothing. Read about every musuem in the US - read about the Guggenheim. Better yet, try donating time to some cause or board without pulling your hair out. I'd rather watch sand blow across the beach. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Baronet's Gone! Let's look forward.
Tillie doesn't belong to WB, Palace or AP... straight outta Coney Island My aunt makes sure to remind me of that all the time lol Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: oakdorf oakd...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:14:19 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Baronet's Gone! Let's look forward. What was wanted in AP: Burned, collapsed or was simply leveled. One of these days, someone will come up with an entertainment square - sure it will be the original - but it sure can tie on the downtown, the boardwalk and the residential areas. I'd to make it real - as I said I'd tie in all those old AP brand names. They might not be in the original, but the theme can live on. Shit, even Tillie found a new home on the Wonder Bar - is that right or wrong? sure sells shirts so is Tillie the face of AP, the Palace or the WB?? Do a survey one day outside the WB. There's names I know and names Mario knows even better. Call it fake or whatever. It will be ADA compliant, safe and draw a hell of alot of people. Not pier - but a fun and live entertainment district. That has always been MM's mantra in their lifestyle centers. This could be one that is REAL...and very cool. We all have visions. glad I don't get excited about them anymore. Visions need cash. A contempary art musuem, a music museum, a pinball musuem, a music studio, saving a building, opening a popcorn store or selling something with AP on it. It all takes money, time and ingenuity - and the land or building to take a shot at success or failure. You can't have a great music destination with no music studio, can you? Take some of the billions tossed at the schools and use some of that to have the BOE build a theatre - for the students that can be leased back per event to any theatre group. The problem is, everyone with a vision wants someone to provide prime space for nothing. Read about every musuem in the US - read about the Guggenheim. Better yet, try donating time to some cause or board without pulling your hair out. I'd rather watch sand blow across the beach. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
