[AsburyPark] Re: Upperclass boardwalk and downtown?

2011-08-21 Thread nobepeymay
Hi Ramona,

I wouldn't take Sharon's response personally.

She often confuses who the posters are and replies back to the wrong party.  

Your post was very informative and much appreciated.  

John
6th Ave

ps: this is our 4th year in AP and my family coudn't be happier, however we are 
not blind to challenges this community faces.  




--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Ramona ramonicoshay@... wrote:

 Wow! ... Did I post it in the wrong spot?  No it was attributed to you. I was 
 answering the group itself ... Questions about the shooting, about 
 Springwood Ave, and about the job program. 
 
 It has been publicized.. in the coaster .. in the press .. and even in the 
 Asbury Blog! We don't boast for a purpose but we are well known where it 
 counts ... with those that need help. 
 
 I didn't think I was ranting I was answering all the assumptions. 
 
 As far as following the group .. why not? I appreciate all the ideas and 
 opinions everyone has but now everyone seems ANGRY all of a sudden, all of 
 the comments about white vs. black etc 
 
 I finally decide to take the chance and join in ... and I'm getting blasted!
  
 Sorry I don't remember or recognize the name and I have been involved since 
 2006. If you still want to be a part ... invitation is still open. 
 
 Let me help you out. 
 
 I am black, if you need me to get technical Black and Indian. 
 I have lived and worked in town since 2005.
 I use to live in town in my 20's .. rented from Walter Wester if you need a 
 reference. 
 I am raising 2 children here. 
 Can't really answer for my family and their thoughts about Asbury .. but my 
 father, aunt, uncle all live in town too. Long Branch Thornton's are my 
 relatives too but I am not that close with them.
 
 As for my mindset that is your personal opinion and your entitled to it. I 
 won't let it stop me from doing my part in moving Asbury Forward. 
 
 Thank you for the encouragement and yes I will put my full name again.
 
 Ramona Thornton
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fast4u sharon_b283@ wrote:
 
  
  #1, I didn't post this part, yet it appears attributed to me!
  
Well sharon your points, comments and life experiences (and the
  success of raising your family) are well taken.
   
Once again, it's that be ready...cause trouble is waiting..
   
That's the scary part - for lack of better words.
   
So why don't the community leaders - all these organizations that
  ARE there to help, take action. Talk to the kids and parents.
   
What are the REAL issues?
   
- Is it housing
- quality of life
- lack of work - what kind of work would one accept
...
   
Employment:
- What kind of programs are in place within the city with city and
  surrounding employers.
   
   
For example: Are there any intern programs with Jersey Shore Medical
  - between the HS and JS?? If not, why not? Seems like a natural.
   
- does the city have any interns? How about the chamber of
  commerce?
How about Madison Marquette. I call them interns, but if the
  business can't afford to pay for it, I'd say take it from the school $
  or other grant money. The kids can work 25 hours per week, $9 per hour.
  That's 225 per week gross. 10 weeks - each kid gets $2250. Take 200
  kids. Pennies for such a program. Can you get kids to work $9.00? IS it
  worth more to keep them off the street - then go for it. $12 hour?
   
- how about kids that graduated from AP High? Where did they go,
  what are they doing now? Anyone know? Does anyone track their careers?
  Can they come back and talk to other kids
   
What kinds of employment programs exist in the school system with a
  $90 million budget. (as for employment programs, I meant for the kids -
  not admin)
   
There is only so much that can be done. You need intelligent people
  running these programs and people that want to participate. Without, you
  have people making comments like we gonna burn the place down or be
  ready.
   
That is what has to be addressed by those who interact with the
  local community. And those leaders should be inviting in african
  american owned businesses. And those leaders should ensure that if
  something is built or renovated on the west side, that bricks don't get
  thrown through the windows or lights shattered.
   
Would it make difference if you just gave everyone, and I mean
  everyone $1,000,000? Every resident, any color.
   
What do you think?
   
The one that pisses it away after two weeks would be pissed at the
  guy who saved it, right?
  
  Furthurmore, who are you addressing?  Why isn't what you're doing 
  publicized?
  You say you're following the group.  Why?  You reply to ME, then go on 

[AsburyPark] Re: Upperclass boardwalk and downtown?

2011-08-21 Thread 2fast4u
Speak for yourself, because you don't speak for me.
What am I confused about?  I'm not confused about you
at all!  If you have a beef with me, say so.  Just leave
me OUT of your comments.  


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, nobepeymay nobepeymay@... wrote:

 Hi Ramona,
 
 I wouldn't take Sharon's response personally.
 
 She often confuses who the posters are and replies back to the wrong party.  
 
 Your post was very informative and much appreciated.  
 
 John
 6th Ave
 
 ps: this is our 4th year in AP and my family coudn't be happier, however we 
 are not blind to challenges this community faces.  
 
 
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Ramona ramonicoshay@ wrote:
 
  Wow! ... Did I post it in the wrong spot?  No it was attributed to you. I 
  was answering the group itself ... Questions about the shooting, about 
  Springwood Ave, and about the job program. 
  
  It has been publicized.. in the coaster .. in the press .. and even in the 
  Asbury Blog! We don't boast for a purpose but we are well known where it 
  counts ... with those that need help. 
  
  I didn't think I was ranting I was answering all the assumptions. 
  
  As far as following the group .. why not? I appreciate all the ideas and 
  opinions everyone has but now everyone seems ANGRY all of a sudden, all of 
  the comments about white vs. black etc 
  
  I finally decide to take the chance and join in ... and I'm getting blasted!
   
  Sorry I don't remember or recognize the name and I have been involved since 
  2006. If you still want to be a part ... invitation is still open. 
  
  Let me help you out. 
  
  I am black, if you need me to get technical Black and Indian. 
  I have lived and worked in town since 2005.
  I use to live in town in my 20's .. rented from Walter Wester if you need a 
  reference. 
  I am raising 2 children here. 
  Can't really answer for my family and their thoughts about Asbury .. but my 
  father, aunt, uncle all live in town too. Long Branch Thornton's are my 
  relatives too but I am not that close with them.
  
  As for my mindset that is your personal opinion and your entitled to it. 
  I won't let it stop me from doing my part in moving Asbury Forward. 
  
  Thank you for the encouragement and yes I will put my full name again.
  
  Ramona Thornton
  
  
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fast4u sharon_b283@ wrote:
  
   
   #1, I didn't post this part, yet it appears attributed to me!
   
 Well sharon your points, comments and life experiences (and the
   success of raising your family) are well taken.

 Once again, it's that be ready...cause trouble is waiting..

 That's the scary part - for lack of better words.

 So why don't the community leaders - all these organizations that
   ARE there to help, take action. Talk to the kids and parents.

 What are the REAL issues?

 - Is it housing
 - quality of life
 - lack of work - what kind of work would one accept
 ...

 Employment:
 - What kind of programs are in place within the city with city and
   surrounding employers.


 For example: Are there any intern programs with Jersey Shore 
   Medical
   - between the HS and JS?? If not, why not? Seems like a natural.

 - does the city have any interns? How about the chamber of
   commerce?
 How about Madison Marquette. I call them interns, but if the
   business can't afford to pay for it, I'd say take it from the school $
   or other grant money. The kids can work 25 hours per week, $9 per 
   hour.
   That's 225 per week gross. 10 weeks - each kid gets $2250. Take 200
   kids. Pennies for such a program. Can you get kids to work $9.00? IS 
   it
   worth more to keep them off the street - then go for it. $12 hour?

 - how about kids that graduated from AP High? Where did they go,
   what are they doing now? Anyone know? Does anyone track their careers?
   Can they come back and talk to other kids

 What kinds of employment programs exist in the school system with 
   a
   $90 million budget. (as for employment programs, I meant for the kids 
   -
   not admin)

 There is only so much that can be done. You need intelligent 
   people
   running these programs and people that want to participate. Without, 
   you
   have people making comments like we gonna burn the place down or be
   ready.

 That is what has to be addressed by those who interact with the
   local community. And those leaders should be inviting in african
   american owned businesses. And those leaders should ensure that if
   something is built or renovated on the west side, that bricks don't 
   get
   thrown through the windows or lights shattered.

 Would it make