[AsburyPark] Re: Upperclass boardwalk and downtown?
Hi Ramona, I wouldn't take Sharon's response personally. She often confuses who the posters are and replies back to the wrong party. Your post was very informative and much appreciated. John 6th Ave ps: this is our 4th year in AP and my family coudn't be happier, however we are not blind to challenges this community faces. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Ramona ramonicoshay@... wrote: Wow! ... Did I post it in the wrong spot? No it was attributed to you. I was answering the group itself ... Questions about the shooting, about Springwood Ave, and about the job program. It has been publicized.. in the coaster .. in the press .. and even in the Asbury Blog! We don't boast for a purpose but we are well known where it counts ... with those that need help. I didn't think I was ranting I was answering all the assumptions. As far as following the group .. why not? I appreciate all the ideas and opinions everyone has but now everyone seems ANGRY all of a sudden, all of the comments about white vs. black etc I finally decide to take the chance and join in ... and I'm getting blasted! Sorry I don't remember or recognize the name and I have been involved since 2006. If you still want to be a part ... invitation is still open. Let me help you out. I am black, if you need me to get technical Black and Indian. I have lived and worked in town since 2005. I use to live in town in my 20's .. rented from Walter Wester if you need a reference. I am raising 2 children here. Can't really answer for my family and their thoughts about Asbury .. but my father, aunt, uncle all live in town too. Long Branch Thornton's are my relatives too but I am not that close with them. As for my mindset that is your personal opinion and your entitled to it. I won't let it stop me from doing my part in moving Asbury Forward. Thank you for the encouragement and yes I will put my full name again. Ramona Thornton --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fast4u sharon_b283@ wrote: #1, I didn't post this part, yet it appears attributed to me! Well sharon your points, comments and life experiences (and the success of raising your family) are well taken. Once again, it's that be ready...cause trouble is waiting.. That's the scary part - for lack of better words. So why don't the community leaders - all these organizations that ARE there to help, take action. Talk to the kids and parents. What are the REAL issues? - Is it housing - quality of life - lack of work - what kind of work would one accept ... Employment: - What kind of programs are in place within the city with city and surrounding employers. For example: Are there any intern programs with Jersey Shore Medical - between the HS and JS?? If not, why not? Seems like a natural. - does the city have any interns? How about the chamber of commerce? How about Madison Marquette. I call them interns, but if the business can't afford to pay for it, I'd say take it from the school $ or other grant money. The kids can work 25 hours per week, $9 per hour. That's 225 per week gross. 10 weeks - each kid gets $2250. Take 200 kids. Pennies for such a program. Can you get kids to work $9.00? IS it worth more to keep them off the street - then go for it. $12 hour? - how about kids that graduated from AP High? Where did they go, what are they doing now? Anyone know? Does anyone track their careers? Can they come back and talk to other kids What kinds of employment programs exist in the school system with a $90 million budget. (as for employment programs, I meant for the kids - not admin) There is only so much that can be done. You need intelligent people running these programs and people that want to participate. Without, you have people making comments like we gonna burn the place down or be ready. That is what has to be addressed by those who interact with the local community. And those leaders should be inviting in african american owned businesses. And those leaders should ensure that if something is built or renovated on the west side, that bricks don't get thrown through the windows or lights shattered. Would it make difference if you just gave everyone, and I mean everyone $1,000,000? Every resident, any color. What do you think? The one that pisses it away after two weeks would be pissed at the guy who saved it, right? Furthurmore, who are you addressing? Why isn't what you're doing publicized? You say you're following the group. Why? You reply to ME, then go on
[AsburyPark] Re: Upperclass boardwalk and downtown?
Speak for yourself, because you don't speak for me. What am I confused about? I'm not confused about you at all! If you have a beef with me, say so. Just leave me OUT of your comments. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, nobepeymay nobepeymay@... wrote: Hi Ramona, I wouldn't take Sharon's response personally. She often confuses who the posters are and replies back to the wrong party. Your post was very informative and much appreciated. John 6th Ave ps: this is our 4th year in AP and my family coudn't be happier, however we are not blind to challenges this community faces. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Ramona ramonicoshay@ wrote: Wow! ... Did I post it in the wrong spot? No it was attributed to you. I was answering the group itself ... Questions about the shooting, about Springwood Ave, and about the job program. It has been publicized.. in the coaster .. in the press .. and even in the Asbury Blog! We don't boast for a purpose but we are well known where it counts ... with those that need help. I didn't think I was ranting I was answering all the assumptions. As far as following the group .. why not? I appreciate all the ideas and opinions everyone has but now everyone seems ANGRY all of a sudden, all of the comments about white vs. black etc I finally decide to take the chance and join in ... and I'm getting blasted! Sorry I don't remember or recognize the name and I have been involved since 2006. If you still want to be a part ... invitation is still open. Let me help you out. I am black, if you need me to get technical Black and Indian. I have lived and worked in town since 2005. I use to live in town in my 20's .. rented from Walter Wester if you need a reference. I am raising 2 children here. Can't really answer for my family and their thoughts about Asbury .. but my father, aunt, uncle all live in town too. Long Branch Thornton's are my relatives too but I am not that close with them. As for my mindset that is your personal opinion and your entitled to it. I won't let it stop me from doing my part in moving Asbury Forward. Thank you for the encouragement and yes I will put my full name again. Ramona Thornton --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fast4u sharon_b283@ wrote: #1, I didn't post this part, yet it appears attributed to me! Well sharon your points, comments and life experiences (and the success of raising your family) are well taken. Once again, it's that be ready...cause trouble is waiting.. That's the scary part - for lack of better words. So why don't the community leaders - all these organizations that ARE there to help, take action. Talk to the kids and parents. What are the REAL issues? - Is it housing - quality of life - lack of work - what kind of work would one accept ... Employment: - What kind of programs are in place within the city with city and surrounding employers. For example: Are there any intern programs with Jersey Shore Medical - between the HS and JS?? If not, why not? Seems like a natural. - does the city have any interns? How about the chamber of commerce? How about Madison Marquette. I call them interns, but if the business can't afford to pay for it, I'd say take it from the school $ or other grant money. The kids can work 25 hours per week, $9 per hour. That's 225 per week gross. 10 weeks - each kid gets $2250. Take 200 kids. Pennies for such a program. Can you get kids to work $9.00? IS it worth more to keep them off the street - then go for it. $12 hour? - how about kids that graduated from AP High? Where did they go, what are they doing now? Anyone know? Does anyone track their careers? Can they come back and talk to other kids What kinds of employment programs exist in the school system with a $90 million budget. (as for employment programs, I meant for the kids - not admin) There is only so much that can be done. You need intelligent people running these programs and people that want to participate. Without, you have people making comments like we gonna burn the place down or be ready. That is what has to be addressed by those who interact with the local community. And those leaders should be inviting in african american owned businesses. And those leaders should ensure that if something is built or renovated on the west side, that bricks don't get thrown through the windows or lights shattered. Would it make