Hi Ramona,
I wouldn't take Sharon's response personally.
She often confuses who the posters are and replies back to the wrong party.
Your post was very informative and much appreciated.
John
6th Ave
ps: this is our 4th year in AP and my family coudn't be happier, however we are
not blind to challenges this community faces.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Ramona" <ramonicoshay@...> wrote:
>
> Wow! ... Did I post it in the wrong spot? No it was attributed to you. I was
> "answering" the group itself ... Questions about the shooting, about
> Springwood Ave, and about the job program.
>
> It has been publicized.. in the coaster .. in the press .. and even in the
> Asbury Blog! We don't boast for a purpose but we are well known where it
> counts ... with those that need help.
>
> I didn't think I was "ranting" I was "answering" all the assumptions.
>
> As far as following the group .. why not? I appreciate all the ideas and
> opinions everyone has but now everyone seems ANGRY all of a sudden, all of
> the comments about white vs. black etc....
>
> I finally decide to take the chance and join in ... and I'm getting blasted!
>
> Sorry I don't remember or recognize the name and I have been involved since
> 2006. If you still want to be a part ... invitation is still open.
>
> Let me help you out.
>
> I am black, if you need me to get technical Black and Indian.
> I have lived and worked in town since 2005.
> I use to live in town in my 20's .. rented from Walter Wester if you need a
> reference.
> I am raising 2 children here.
> Can't really answer for my family and their thoughts about Asbury .. but my
> father, aunt, uncle all live in town too. "Long Branch" Thornton's are my
> relatives too but I am not that close with them.
>
> As for my "mindset" that is your personal opinion and your entitled to it. I
> won't let it stop me from doing my part in "moving Asbury Forward".
>
> Thank you for the encouragement and yes I will put my full name again.
>
> Ramona Thornton
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fast4u" <sharon_b283@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > #1, I didn't post this part, yet it appears attributed to me!
> >
> > > > Well sharon your points, comments and life experiences (and the
> > success of raising your family) are well taken.
> > > >
> > > > Once again, it's that "be ready...cause trouble is waiting.."
> > > >
> > > > That's the scary part - for lack of better words.
> > > >
> > > > So why don't the community leaders - all these organizations that
> > ARE there to help, take action. Talk to the kids and parents.
> > > >
> > > > What are the REAL issues?
> > > >
> > > > - Is it housing
> > > > - quality of life
> > > > - lack of work - what kind of work would one accept
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > Employment:
> > > > - What kind of programs are in place within the city with city and
> > surrounding employers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For example: Are there any intern programs with Jersey Shore Medical
> > - between the HS and JS?? If not, why not? Seems like a natural.
> > > >
> > > > - does the city have any interns? How about the chamber of
> > commerce?
> > > > How about Madison Marquette. I call them interns, but if the
> > business can't afford to pay for it, I'd say take it from the school $
> > or other grant money. The kids can work 25 hours per week, $9 per hour.
> > That's 225 per week gross. 10 weeks - each kid gets $2250. Take 200
> > kids. Pennies for such a program. Can you get kids to work $9.00? IS it
> > worth more to keep them off the street - then go for it. $12 hour?
> > > >
> > > > - how about kids that graduated from AP High? Where did they go,
> > what are they doing now? Anyone know? Does anyone track their careers?
> > Can they come back and talk to other kids????
> > > >
> > > > What kinds of employment programs exist in the school system with a
> > $90 million budget. (as for employment programs, I meant for the kids -
> > not admin)
> > > >
> > > > There is only so much that can be done. You need intelligent people
> > running these programs and people that want to participate. Without, you
> > have people making comments like "we gonna burn the place down" or "be
> > ready".
> > > >
> > > > That is what has to be addressed by those who interact with the
> > local community. And those leaders should be inviting in african
> > american owned businesses. And those leaders should ensure that if
> > something is built or renovated on the west side, that bricks don't get
> > thrown through the windows or lights shattered.
> > > >
> > > > Would it make difference if you just gave everyone, and I mean
> > everyone $1,000,000? Every resident, any color.
> > > >
> > > > What do you think?
> > > >
> > > > The one that pisses it away after two weeks would be pissed at the
> > guy who saved it, right?
> >
> > Furthurmore, who are you addressing? Why isn't what you're "doing"
> > publicized?
> > You say you're following the group. Why? You reply to ME, then go on a
> > rant?
> > I at least identify myself as a Woman of color. Who are YOU? Yes, I
> > remember
> > Asbury Works and all I could remember was Tamara, forget her last name and
> > I assumed the program went belly up like everything around here. I was
> > involved
> > in the initial start up of AW but I've had health issues, dropped out of
> > posting for almost
> > a year, but you at least identified yourself, which some posters DON'T do
> > and the only
> > time they post something is when they've been thrown off a board, lose an
> > election or have some assinine comment that turn most of us off!
> >
> > We're in this group because we LIVE here, we WORK here and have seen
> > Asbury Park go down the drain from developers that want to turn AP into
> > South Beach Florida or SoHo South! You have a mindset that tells me, you
> > work here, but either don't live here but like most NJ natives, because I
> > think
> > I know your family, think their home, example: Long Branch, Red
> > Bank,'Belmar, et.al.,
> > think THEIR hometown is way better. That might be true, but we here are
> > ONLY
> > interested in what gets Asbury Park moving forward!
> >
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Ramona" <ramonicoshay@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >
> > > My name is Ramona Thornton and I am the "program manager" for the jobs
> > > program, its "leadership" has changed many hands, but the "program
> > > manager" is still trying to make a difference. I have been "watching"
> > > this board for quite some time now. I think I can shed some light on a
> > > couple of issues that have been coming up recently.
> > > First of all I don't "see" any racist people on this group I only "see"
> > > frustrated intelligent individuals that are having problems wrapping
> > > their minds around so many problems in a 1 mile town.
> > >
> >
>
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