Re: [AsburyPark] Re: unsold condos...
the city government makes AP an undespireable place to live. EVERYTHING in AP is about revenue. my drug dealing neighbors get off scott free despite the whole neighborhood complaining, becuase the cops are too busy issuing tickets to care. my neighbor is a volunteer C.O.P. and can't even get the cops to care. for 4 years, i mowed the grass in front of that damn house because the landlord didn't. i picked up the garbage in front to keep the rest of the street nice. our neighbors plowed the drug houses' walk when they didn't. the ridiculous tickets me and my family have gotten, i wont go into - not having lights on when windshield wipers are on despite it not raining, tickets for being parked too close to stop sign when there is no stop sign, etc etc; when i need them, they are not there. Both times our car had the window based in. when three next-door neighbors were broken into in a matter of 2 months. the abandoned house caddy corner to use went vacant and had homeless people living there for months. i wont go on. point is... in 2007 our house appraised at 600k. in 2010, when my husband lost his job, we put our hose on the market. we had one offer in over 6 months for 300k. this is a newly renovated, high end, 5 bedroom house on the east side, on a side street with a yard and i coyuldnt sell it for over 300k. mind you, we are still in a short sale and the bank declined that offer this month - sept 2011. thankfully, our buyers came back with a slightly higher offer. who buy a 1br condo @ 350k when you have your choice of beautiful, huge foreclosed and short sale houses to chose from for cheaper? PS. any losses from this property will not be taxed if it closes in 2011 (thank you obama). and our sale is contigent on us not having anything else due on our mortgage when we close - thanks to our attorney. --- to those of you who say it is immoral to walk away from our mortgage, i can explain to you why you you are an idiot in a separate email. my husband worked on wall st, for the banks who created this overpriced, false housing bubble and i say F you to the banks who refused to refinance us, refused to modify our mortgage, dragged our our mortgage mod application for a year and a half, denied us on not making enough when you gave us a loan on the same income in the first place, then refused our short sale. we tried. now take that and eat it, banks. On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 1:08 PM, fancypaaantz fancypaaa...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Yes, before I do anything I will have it all researched. The point really, my personal experience is just an example. If this plan comes to be, isn't it just going to be more and more of this with all of our property values getting more and more depressed. We need to adress the other issues (eg, crime) and making Asbury a desireable destination and then add more units. I understand that the developers have rights, but I just don't see how it make sense now, as the supply is greater than the demand. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: speak to an accountant. Not a bad move converting it to rental - if you sell you sell and may have some tax beneifts. If you don't sell and want to convert it back to your primary home - it might work out as well. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
hinge, I think we can all vagree its stupid for people to get out in thier cars for non-emergencies. I think there are probably few people who are out driving to get milk for thier coffee. It sounds like you are saying both you and the city blames abandoned cars for a lack of plowing... but these few abandoned cars are NOT an excuese for only having one front end loader to try and move snow AFTER the fact for the entire city. If there was a plan in place - a plan for snow removal that we the people pay taxes for - they could have lessened the impact by plowing as it was snowing, salting the roads, etc. This is not an emergency yet. i am happy and have food at home and water and electricity. I am however angry as hell that the city PD blows me off and says it doesnt know when the streets will be plowed, the DPW doesnt answer the phone and answering machine is full, and that there are no police out there for public safety , or tow trucks to take care of abandoned cars or PD to ticket the absentee landlords and lazy homeowners who have not yet plowed thier sidewalks!! Im fed up and im going out to shovel the damn street myself On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Hinge hing...@yahoo.com wrote: I think we live in a hypocritical culture. Some people are all for smaller government but when it happens, and people feel the loss, they complain that somethings wrong. I find this to be ridiculous. The same people preach about personal responsibility... Ok, so we were getting report after report about a weather issue...did the paramedic, air traffic controller or heart surgeon make plans for a disaster? Probably not. Instead, when the disaster hit, it's easier to bitch about it than take the so called personal responsibilty and be prepared. We ALL heard the warnings. Yet how many of us got our cars stuck after the fact while trying to get things we should have had in the first place? What's more important? Having milk for coffee after forgetting to get some, or risking getting your car stuck and screwing with snow clean up progress? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Doug M dougandcathy_mcqu...@... wrote: So what you're saying is, if someone has a job as a paramedic, heart surgeon or air traffic controller, they should just stay home until city, county and state governments mount an adequate response to the snow? While I agree with your point about taking action instead of complaining, this is one case where the government response to an important need was inadequate. For example, Route 35 in Ocean Township looked like a war zone, even at 11 pm on Tuesday. At the same time, the parking lots of the Monmouth Mall, Wegman's, and even Red Lobster were all infinitely better than the state highway. Why are these private enterprises so much more capable of clearing the snow? ...and I'm a fairly liberal Democrat, but I can admit when the public sector F's up. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: It's amazing to me that so many people these days are anti-government, but when it doesn't work for them personally, it's the first thing they blame for their troubles. If you aren't happy, run for city office and try and make a difference. I think about it all the time. Maybe it's an eye opening experience about the reality of our city. Maybe not. But honestly, the amount of bitching about this snowstorm is ridiculous. It will be past history in a few days. Not life changing for a vast majority of us. If anything, it should be life changing in the way that it should teach each and every one of us to be prepared. If you have plenty of food and water, then unless it's life or death you should stay home, not drive, and let the streets be cleaned ASAP. But no, people don't prepare, they try and drive, get stuck, and block progress. Right now, there's a taxi stuck on Main St. in AP, right in the middle of the street, for at least the past 12 hours. Who's fault is that? Sometimes, people just need to be patient and stay home. Yes, your job might not be happy with that, but realistically speaking, what's more important, your job, your safety, or being part of a bigger picture where people think about we instead of me? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
Re: [AsburyPark] Snow Everywhere
ah yes, so now the expected becomes the exemption. when a block of houses is on fire we don't praise the one or 2 firefighters who show up, we ask, where are the rest of them? we dont praise the trash men who pick up one or 2 houses worth of trash while leaving the rest of the city holding thier privates in thier hands. I personally don't lay down and just pay the bill when i am over charged or when i don't get the services or products i pay for. On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 6:45 AM, marioa...@aol.com wrote: The headlines for any major newspaper in the Northeast indicate that both the bitchin' and the mass disruptions due to slow progress in snow removal are not unique to Asbury Park: E.g.: _http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/29/nyregion/29hospitals.html?hp_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/29/nyregion/29hospitals.html?hp) _http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/29/nyregion/29weather.html?ref=nyregion_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/29/nyregion/29weather.html?ref=nyregion) _ http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1hdlOnly=1cf=allncl=dcJL49dKRvQDndM4 NHEbld8uxTIVMtopic=h_ ( http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1hdlOnly=1cf=allncl=dcJL49dKRvQDndM4NHEbld8uxTIVMtopic=h) So bug off mr/ms anonymous newbee Two exceptions seems to be Rahway where streets seem to be passable, and Newark where Mayor Booker has done a commendable job of communicating with residents. In a message dated 12/29/2010 5:55:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, newbeet...@ymail.com newbeetoap%40ymail.com writes: When you can't get life and safety services to every resident you've got a problem. After all isn't that the bare bones expectation of service from an urban area like AP? Your taxes are huge and the biggest budget item is fire and police. You all deserve to get your money's worth. Glad there was no fire anywhere. Have a great New Years's (even those that love to beat me up) LOL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
we are on emory. its after noon tuesday and still no plows. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. who's got mayors contact info? Although...I'm surprised i didnt get ticketed for alt. side of the street parking violation.. freakin corrupt city. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
i just got back, i walked down third to grand to cookman, back up to main and back to third. there is one lane down all those roads (except side streets). on main st, everyone is walking down the middle of the rd. cars are parked / abandoned literally in the middle of the street. at around 2nd and main there is an abandoned taxi, looks like it was trying to make a left turn but got stuck. NOT A SINGLE COP or FD or city personnel in sight. i peeked in the firehouse as there was a APFD truck w/ plow outside - about 4 men were sitting having coffee, looking out the window... cars are not only double parked, they are IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. my neighbor is a volunteer citizen on patrol. when he called the PD, the dispatcher said they city had NO PLAN and no contracts in place for plowing and that the city manger was driving around trying to come up with a plan. she reported that they were trying to get the side streets plowed tonite or tomorrow morning, hopefully. I *WILL REMEMBER* THIS WHEN ITS TIME TO VOTE. On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 1:17 PM, fancypaaantz fancypaaa...@yahoo.comwrote: Esp since AP is a relatively small city that is basically a grid. Plows and salt trunks should have been going constantly throughout the storm. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernera...@... wrote: I'm taking your question as facetious. Waiting until there is several feet accumulated is ridiculous. The proper process is to start sanding/salting when snowfall starts. Followed by clearing during the storm so that accumulations on streets do not occur leading to the stuck vehicles you mention. Dealing with a heavy snowfall is s much art as it is science and requires experienced leadership to be effective. Waiting until a storm is over and then trying to address it is clearly irresponsible. Certainly there can be extenuating circumstances (available resources, equipment/manpower), but the basic process is well known. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Did any of you ever try to plow 3-4 feet of snow - with cars stuck in the road? Front end loaders are one of the only ones to start making a path. In ot, we just got plowed out 7 am Tues . The county hasnt been able to clear all of norwood ave. With layoffs and v-days and limited equipment along with record blowing snowfall [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Has anyone seen a snow plow yet
you know what, it isnt about walking or cars or about what everyone else is doing. as mentioned, i was happy to walk. i enjoy the snow. However, when i am unemployeed my spouses' income is essential to us. Asbury would be really fantasic if it were not for the city government. I suppose i have been fortunate to have previously lived in towns and cities where things ran smoothly and we didn't notice when things went as planned. but the fact is, Asbury Park did NOT plan for this even though they had 48 hours plus notice. can you imagine if there was (god forbid) a terrorist attack, nuclear accident or natural event such as a flood or eathquake? It's be a free for all. The city of AP has let me and my neighbors down over and over and I'm fed up, this is just one more thing to add to my list. - this fall 3 of the 7 houses on my street were broken into - one car window broken by kids, one car window broken by the neighbors who got into a fight (the police responded to break up the fight, noted the property damage but did nothing to prosecute the responsible party or notify me, the owner), - the unreasonable traffic tickets (1. lights not on while wipers were on, despite it not raining, got that dismissed. car parked too close to traffic light - i was in the middle of a block and there was no light, that was dismissed too). dad got no seatbelt while moving the car across the street for alt parking by THE FIRE DEPT- all within last yr. -my female neighbor who was arrested by APPD (who called her names i wont repeat) for hitting her husband when she attempted to defend herself from his repeated physical abuse. she was taken to monmouth county jail overnite and prosecuted for assault becuase he had a 'fresh' mark on him when hers were old. - the drug dealers next door the PD doesn't do anything about, despite eye witness acoounts from a number of neighbors - i will also note the obvious which doesnt need mentioning - the waterfront redevelopment. yea, save your this is the real world / this is AP speech. I know it. But guess what? I have choices. I am exersizing my CHOICE of where to live and im selling my house and moving (a decision we made months ago). I complain about this snow plowing because I PAY TAXES. these are services i have pre-paid for and have not recieved. just because all the jersey shore is not being plowed DOESNT MAKE IT RIGHT. I moved here because i wanted to help make a difference and support AP. I am a designer, an artist, and I wanted to be surrounded by like mided folks. I have been involved and tried to help and volunteer. I love the people - all walks of life - except the corrupt people in office who run this town. I am not the first and will not be the last to leave because of this. On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 8:09 PM, fancypaaantz fancypaaa...@yahoo.comwrote: I have to add though that it is not just Asbury- the whole shore area seems to be having trouble. I grew up in North Jersey as I've said before and the worst storm I ever experiences there took 48 hours max to clean up, usually it is 24 hours. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaa...@... wrote: I don't think the problem is about driving cars around. If people have an emergency, vehicles can't get through. Others NEED to get to work (either because they are are nurses/doctors or bc they are simply supporting their family and don't have the most understanding of employers). Moreover, it is all well and good to walk around and be peaceful about it, but I don't keep a ton of food in my house and I am not walking down the middle of the street with a 17 month old on my back. Luckily, I took this week off from work anyway because if not, there is no way my employer in NYC would be understanding about me taking 3 or 4 days for a snow storm. People in North Jersey where my mother lives have been driving since Monday afternoon and she claims they also got a lot of snow. It is about planning and execution as Werner said. The Stone Pony cancelled shows through Thursday? That is four days for a storm. In my mind, that is unacceptable. And just because it isn't as bad as what the miners went through- I mean how could you even compare to something like that?- Doesn't mean we don't have a right to have our town execute a cohesive plan to clean our streets after a snow storm. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I was worried about my neighbor getting to her job (she's a nurse) but honestly,I don't mind being snowed in. Plus I got plenty of exercise. What worries me the most is how are any emergency service vehicles going to get to people in case of emergency. Currently there's a stuck garbage truck at the end of mystreet, and a stuck tractor trailer on main. Mostly, just think about what the Chilean miners endured. We have nothing to complain about. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
