[AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN Coverage Like the Dew

2008-12-24 Thread sharon_b283
I don't have a link, but Google alternative newspapers.  I found
tons of alternatives this way and subscribe to several, not available
in this area, (local and free), to the areas they're printed in.  Most
are filled with ads, like TCN in their paper form, but fun to read.
 The Village Voice is also online!


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedri...@... wrote:

 Where's the link to the data that other small papers are doing fine?
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote:
 
  From  Recovering Journalist: Jumping to the Wrong Conclusion (a  
  professional POV)  a Comment following it (Somewhat testy -  lol):
   
  http://tinyurl.com/77zc3h
   
   





Yahoo! Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



[AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN Coverage Like the Dew

2008-12-24 Thread sharon_b283
LOL!  You are so crazy!  Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Happy
Hannukah, Happy Kwanzaa and Happy New Year!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
jerseyshorej...@... wrote:

 We eschew the Web. A lack of links keeps our operating costs to a  
 minimum and our Christmas party had only one attendee! Hysterical! Ahem!
 
 On Dec 23, 2008, at 8:28 AM, justifiedright wrote:
 
  Where's the link to the data that other small papers are doing fine?
 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






Yahoo! Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN Coverage Like the Dew

2008-12-24 Thread Jersey Shore John
The Internet has surpassed newspapers as the main source for  
national and international news for Americans, according to a new  
survey.

http://tinyurl.com/89b3yw

Television, however, remains the preferred medium for Americans,  
according to the survey by the Washington-based Pew Research Center  
for the People  the Press. Seventy percent of the 1,489 people  
surveyed by Pew said television is their primary source for national  
and international news. Forty percent said they get most of their  
news from the Internet, up from 24 percent in September 2007, and  
more than the 35 percent who cited newspapers as their main news  
source.



Yahoo! Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



[AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN Coverage Like the Dew

2008-12-23 Thread justifiedright
Where's the link to the data that other small papers are doing fine?


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote:

 From  Recovering Journalist: Jumping to the Wrong Conclusion (a  
 professional POV)  a Comment following it (Somewhat testy -  lol):
  
 http://tinyurl.com/77zc3h
  
  
 
 New York Times media columnist David Carr,  who is staking out a 
position as 
 a staunch defender of the primacy of the  traditional newspaper, 
has come up 
 with a doozy: a small weekly community newspaper in New Jersey 
that claims to 
 be  thriving. In fact, Carr says, The TriCityNews of Monmouth 
County is 
 prospering  precisely because it aggressively ignores the Web.
  
  
 
 Well, not precisely. In fact, probably not much at all.
 
 The TriCityNews' owner and publisher, Dan Jacobson, is proud of 
his  
 print-only stance, Carr reports. Why would I put anything on the 
Web? Carr  quotes 
 Jacobson as saying. I don't understand how putting content on the 
Web  would 
 do anything but help destroy our paper.
 
 Carr and Jacobson have jumped to the wrong conclusion about what 
makes the  
 TriCityNews a success. Indeed, many small community papers, with 
and without 
 Web  sites, are doing just fine, and will continue to do so even 
as larger 
 newspapers  founder. 
 
 That has nothing to do with print, or the Web. It has everything 
to do with  
 the fact that these little papers cover their communities 
closelyâ€and have  
 little or no competition in doing so. Web or not, their readers 
have almost no  
 place else to go.
 
 The well-publicized storm that's roiling the newspaper business 
isn't  really 
 affecting many of these smaller players. When we talk about 
newspapers in  
 trouble these days, we're primarily talking about metro dailies, 
which are being 
  pummeled on all sides by competition from national news sites, 
bloggers,  
 craigslist, hyperlocal sites, Yelp, and others. There are 
generally myriad other 
  ways to get most of what's in most dailies. Want international 
news? It's  
 everywhere. National news? Ditto. Sports? Ditto, plus ESPN. 
Entertainment news? 
  Same thing. 
 
 The one franchise the big metros can still defend, usually, is 
local  newsâ€
 and even there, they're probably spread too thin. In fact, they're 
spread  so 
 thin that they're often undercut by small community papers 
like ... the  
 TriCityNews, which covers news and arts in the area around Asbury 
Park like the  dew, 
 as the saying used to go.
 
 In fact, the TriCityNews has staked out an even narrower niche, as 
an  
 alternative community weekly with an edge. (Its almost non-
existent Web site  shows 
 a copy of the paper sitting atop a toilet.) So it's a little 
offbeat, and  
 doubtless a nice alternative to Gannett's Asbury Park Press, its 
nearest daily  
 competitor. And the Asbury Park Press is no slouch at local 
coverage  itself.
 
 That unique local angle is what makes the TriCityNews a success, 
whether or  
 not it has a Web site. (Ironically, because its alternative 
audience probably  
 skews young, it may actually be limiting itself by not reaching 
that audience 
  online.) Indeed, it's tiny (10,000 circulation), keeps its 
editorial costs 
 low,  offers affordable advertising and has annual revenue that's 
probably a 
 rounding  error for a paper like the Asbury Park Press. Comparing 
its situation 
 to the  problems of big dailies is really apples and oranges.
 
 Long after metro dailies wither away, small community and 
alternative  papers 
 like the TriCityNews are likely to continue in print (and on the 
Web),  
 because they're providing unique, focused content to their 
narrowly defined  
 audiences (and advertisers). If there was a way to get the same 
stuff from an  
 online (or print) competitor, these papers would face a lot of the 
same  structural 
 pressures as their larger cousins. And they're still feeling the 
same  pinch 
 from a lousy advertising economy, nonetheless. But their success 
really  
 doesn't have anything to do with whether they're distributed in 
pixels or dead  
 trees. It's the nature of their content that makes the  
difference. 
 
 So contrary to what Carr and Jacobson believe, the secret to the  
 TriCityNews' success probably isn't that it fiercely eschews the 
Web. It's that  it's 
 fiercely local.
 
 
  
 Comments:  Not so fast, gentleman. To call Tri-City a  community 
paper is an 
 error and doesn't do justice to community papers like the  2 River 
Times and 
 The Hub which truly cover the community. 
 
 Mr. Jacobsons version of community coverage is to  borrow stories 
from these 
 papers, slam the local daily paper and other weeklies,  and launch 
personal 
 attacks on it s reviewer when there is a negative article  about 
one of his 
 advertisers.
 He doesn't cover meetings, thereby relying on second  hand 
accounts of what 
 went on in the tri-city towns and tends to beat the same  old 
dead horse 
 topics which are the only ones that he 

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN Coverage Like the Dew

2008-12-23 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 12/23/2008 8:28:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
justifiedri...@yahoo.com writes:

Where's  the link to the data that other small papers are doing fine?
 
=
 
I dunno.  Ask the recovering journalist at his site, comment or  email  
recoveringjournal...@cox.net
 
Anyone know how the Coaster is doing?  I like to promote Coaster  
subscriptions to out-of-town AP lovers, pointing out that, though it does have 
a  web 
site,  it's difficult to navigate and doesn't contain every  article in its 
print 
version.  A bargain because it's delivered on day of  publication and you get 
a $25 gift certificate to a local restaurant.
 
2 River Times tries to preserve its print status by offering limited web  
content only after 4 days on newsstands (or immediately to print  subscribers).
 
 
Happy Holidays
 
 
**One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, 
Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. 
(http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025)


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




Yahoo! Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN Coverage Like the Dew

2008-12-23 Thread Jersey Shore John
We eschew the Web. A lack of links keeps our operating costs to a  
minimum and our Christmas party had only one attendee! Hysterical! Ahem!

On Dec 23, 2008, at 8:28 AM, justifiedright wrote:

 Where's the link to the data that other small papers are doing fine?


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




Yahoo! Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/