[AsburyPark] Re: Dear Point Miss-ers..........

2006-11-03 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Keady has not yet realized he is no longer some guy with a picket 
 sign rallying against the man.  As a public official, his words 
 carry weight now.  He has a duty to you and me to make sure the 
 picture of Asbury Park to a tri-state TV audience is a balanced one.

I've done a couple of TV News interviews and what appeared on the 
screen was not everything I said. How do you know what, if anything, 
was edited out? Do you have the complete interview or only what was 
shown?


 We are rarely on TV.  For him to use a false fact to make us look 
 worse than we are was what he did wrong.


How do you know its false?




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Dear Point Miss-ers..........

2006-11-03 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've done a couple of TV News interviews and what appeared on the 
 screen was not everything I said. How do you know what, if anything, 
 was edited out? Do you have the complete interview or only what was 
 shown?

Point well taken.

 How do you know its false?

I believe the burden of proof is on the one making the claim.  Be that 
as it may, didn't that one study referenced here today speak of 200 
county wide?

To say 200 in AP is false.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Dear Point Miss-ers GUMBA NIGHT.....

2006-11-03 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright 
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 I believe the burden of proof is on the one making the claim.

As it should be. Maybe he is not ready yet to reveal his sources.

  Be that 
 as it may, didn't that one study referenced here today speak of 
200 
 county wide?
 
 To say 200 in AP is false.

Look at the study I posted. There are 17,000 gang members (at 
minimum) in the state. I think it said nearly 5,000 were Bloods. The 
survey also admits that this is based on reporting police estimates 
which are acknowledged to only estimate the tip of the iceberg. 
Let's see what APPD reported in 2004. Remember that heroin bust in 
Newark a couple of months ago? It was a Bloods gang that had ties to 
AP. I would not be surprised if there were 200 members here. But say 
its 100 or 50, or 300+, what's the difference? If Keady even had an 
absolute basis for his numbers he would still be crucified.

I want you to vent your anger here at GUMBA Night. I want Loffredo 
in 15ht Century clothes and Bruno railing like a madman. I want to 
read those letters from the boys in Ocean Twp. I want some balance.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Dear Point Miss-ers..........

2006-11-03 Thread oakdorf
I have a relative working the M County courts PTI program. They have
their share of good old white collar crimers (Drs, Lawyers and
everyday people)  - some with the same problems - or most - drugs. So
you have users and dealers. Like one story I was told - I don't use,
just sell.
nice guy right? Do away with PTI (pre-trial-intervention) and make
more room in jail. That to me is like one free ride in most cases. 

Then there are many, many programs that users get to get into - once
they get caught and face jail  - or the option of PTI (if granted). 

I'll leave it to the lawyer or 2 on this sboard to comment. (Quite a
few FAIL the PTI program).

Question, since Jim's comment, can someone show a real cause and effect?
Did Jim' interview cause people not to eat or shop in downtown?
Permantely or just for last week? If that were the case, no one would
be back in NYC since 9/11. Build a business (businesses) that people
want and need throughout the day. 
g
What the UEZ should begin planning is how to capitalize on the outlet
center (highend) that will open within the next 2 years at exit 100.
And there is another 30 acres right there that will be sold, plus
another 130 on the west side that will some day go. You have a new
hotel opening at Jumping Brook, more food joints. You'll have more
opportunity to draw traffic downtown. Now you jsut have to figure out
how to draw them in another 5 miles. It's called the beachfront and
Cookman Ave. To do so, you have open Asbury Ave and work with Neptune
to do so.







 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Dear Point Miss-ers GUMBA NIGHT.....

2006-11-03 Thread Allan Peterson


You should be demanding the truth and for him to state his sources. Not lame excuses

I bet at this moment he (JK)is positing to Wikipedia over and over so he can then post the result as justification..
- Original Message From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, November 3, 2006 5:38:19 PMSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: Dear Point Miss-ers  GUMBA NIGHT.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" justifiedright@ ... wrote: I believe the burden of proof is on the one making the claim.As it should be. Maybe he is not ready yet to reveal his sources. Be that  as it may, didn't that one study referenced here today speak of 200  county wide?  To say 200 in AP is false.Look at the study I posted. There are 17,000 gang members (at minimum) in the state. I think it said nearly 5,000 were Bloods. The survey also admits that this is based on reporting police estimates which are acknowledged to only estimate the tip of the iceberg. Let's see what APPD reported in 2004. Remember that heroin bust in Newark a couple of months ago? It was a Bloods gang that had ties to AP. I would not be surprised if there were 200 members here. But
 say its 100 or 50, or 300+, what's the difference? If Keady even had an absolute basis for his numbers he would still be crucified.I want you to vent your anger here at GUMBA Night. I want Loffredo in 15ht Century clothes and Bruno railing like a madman. I want to read those letters from the boys in Ocean Twp. I want some balance.

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