[AsburyPark] Re: Hateful Posting
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was that crime about hate or drugs? thinking it was a big nasty salad of human ugliness and vulnerability with hate (fear) mingled in. this sparked a thread on commondreams.org that made me think about hate crime legislation differently and found myself thinking a little like a conservative (i think...you can let me know tommy). the first thing i jump to is..isn't rape a hate (fear) crime and hasn't it been for hundreds if not thousands of years? aren't all violent crimes (and maybe some financial) crimes of hate (fear) or disdain? clearly there needs to be discussion about the targeting of anyone based on race, gender, orientation etc. but i can see how special legislation is burdensome and may even lead to more anger as it is perceived as specialness by those already having a challenge with otherness. i have no idea what the right thing is, just wondering. Here is a link to a talk by steven pinker arguing that we are far less violent than we have been. 20 minutes but worth it. i encourage you all to explore TED's site. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/steven_pinker_on_the_myth_of_violence.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Hateful Posting
Glenn's post was Asbury related: about hateful postings here, and about a commemoration to be held at 5th Av beach. In a message dated 10/11/2008 8:00:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Was that crime about hate or drugs? - That's a leading question which can distract this group to the national left-right debate about hate-crime legislation. JR's position is on record in a column he wrote for TriCity last year as Ocean Township prepared for its Laramie play. I post the reasons for my position at the Asbury Politics group. Was the death of 14 year-old Emmett Till a hate crime or a crime of passion based on disrespect for a white woman? Let's agree to disagree here. Otherwise, use the other group. **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0002) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hateful Posting
Was that crime about hate or drugs? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read the recently hateful posts in this group with disdain. Life is too short to be hateful. On the evening of Sunday, October 12th, on the 5th Avenue Beach in Asbury Park, a ceremony will be held to commemorate a victim of hate: http://www.app.com/article/20081009/NEWS/81009048/1001/rss http://www.app.com/article/20081009/NEWS/81009048/1001/rss If the word hate is in your vocabulary, or if you use words to inflict hateful consequences, you might like to attend the ceremony. Erase Hate. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hateful Posting
I wasn't there, I wasn't in the courtroom; so, I can not definatively answer your question. Would erasing hate ruin anything though? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was that crime about hate or drugs? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: I read the recently hateful posts in this group with disdain. Life is too short to be hateful. On the evening of Sunday, October 12th, on the 5th Avenue Beach in Asbury Park, a ceremony will be held to commemorate a victim of hate: http://www.app.com/article/20081009/NEWS/81009048/1001/rss http://www.app.com/article/20081009/NEWS/81009048/1001/rss If the word hate is in your vocabulary, or if you use words to inflict hateful consequences, you might like to attend the ceremony. Erase Hate. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hateful Posting
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't there, I wasn't in the courtroom; so, I can not definatively answer your question. Would erasing hate ruin anything though? If there is enough hate crimes in the world to necessitate a gathering against it, wouldn't it be easy to find an exemplar that was definitively just about hate and nothing else? Otherwise it feels a bit misleading. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
