[AsburyPark] Re: Hotels and BB's
I think if the city continues their push toward big name concert events via Live Nation, then there would be a need for more variety in the lodgings department. I think it would be amazing if AP once again hosted a few big, summer outdoor beach concerts like it did back in the 70's. This has been mentioned here before, but the best kept lodging secret in AP is the Tides Hotel, on 7th Ave. I took the tour over the summer, and I was blown away. http://hoteltides.com/ --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if this topic has already been discussed in the distant past. I wonder how many hotels/BB's would make sense for Asbury now that there is a decent boardwalk for people to utilize in the summer. How many rooms there are in other towns and what level of supply would be too much. Does anyone have any insight on this topic? dan Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many rooms there are in other towns and what level of supply would be too much. Does anyone have any insight on this topic? dan Enough rooms that owners want to buy more or add on... You can go to AC in the summer and not get a room or get one, but pay out the nose or today, drive down Rt 30 toards the marina disrict - and see rooms from abou $29 sun-thursday... or get free rooms in the hotels or $79 rooms at the casinos... I was in hollywood fl got a room via price at a hyatt place... via priceline cheap. YOu need a mix, a choice. The problem is, you need the land to build it on. Would a 25 story hotel work? That's grand. Would a 100 room family hotel work? Right now having extra hotel rooms is not the problem. That's my thoughts for what it's worth. Throw a holiday express or other simple style hotel and you have alomst the whole shore to draw from - steps to the beach... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I also think that The Berkley could use the pressure of other hotels in order to push them to step up and get their act together. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: How many rooms there are in other towns and what level of supply would be too much. Does anyone have any insight on this topic? dan Enough rooms that owners want to buy more or add on... You can go to AC in the summer and not get a room or get one, but pay out the nose or today, drive down Rt 30 toards the marina disrict - and see rooms from abou $29 sun-thursday... or get free rooms in the hotels or $79 rooms at the casinos... I was in hollywood fl got a room via price at a hyatt place... via priceline cheap. YOu need a mix, a choice. The problem is, you need the land to build it on. Would a 25 story hotel work? That's grand. Would a 100 room family hotel work? Right now having extra hotel rooms is not the problem. That's my thoughts for what it's worth. Throw a holiday express or other simple style hotel and you have alomst the whole shore to draw from - steps to the beach... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Here's the 2 most recent Berkley reviews on Trip Advisor; Can I get directions to the nearest hospital Berkeley Hotel gtipunk10 philadelphia pa Nov 18, 2008 A bunch of our friends were in town to see a band that we all knew have their final show. So in addition to the room we had there were several other rooms booked in the same party or group. The hotel is as other reviews have stated trying to be hip and swanky. But it should deff not fool you. Just because there is an ihome in every room doesn't make it nice. It does lack a lot of normal amenities such as a mini-fridge. The place didn't even have a vending machine. What hotel do you know where you can not even get a bottle of water from a vending machine?! The next morning before check out a member staying in our room went to use the horribly designed shower. Instead of a shower curtain or a door there was just a stationary piece of glass about a 1/4 thick x 3'-6 wide to the ceiling. So needless to say water goes all over and doesn't stay in the shower. The person who was taking a shower leaned out to grab a towel with one hand out the glass and it fell out. Just came right out. He managed to catch it however since the water was running everything was slippery and it still fell on him. Causing a bloody mess! When I called down to the front desk to see what I was supposed to do she said she would send someone up. It was taking forever and we couldn't wait so I went down to the desk to ask for directions to the nearest hospital. The front desk woman said I was rude even though I apologized to the people in line when I butted it to get the directions. She then started to rattle off street names to me as though I knew where I was. In which case would I really be staying in your hotel or asking you where the hospital was. When I asked her for something that was written down I got an eye roll and attitude. When I got back upstairs the maintenance man was now in the room. He looked at the directions and told me they were incorrect. She then fought with the guy who's name the room at the desk about the incident but then got the manager to come in. Apparently he was nice and comped the room. And corporate is supposed to pickup the medical charges but we will see what happens there. So after a 3 hour ER visit the guy had to have his toenail surgically removed. We were late getting to an event in NYC that day. And now are inconvenienced all around with the injury. I would never go there again. This TripAdvisor Member: Liked it was close to asbury lanes Disliked having to spend 3 hours at the ER Convenient for closeness but Room Sevice was bad Berkeley Hotel magrat08 UK Nov 7, 2008 I have stayed at this hotel before and have to say it was much better then it is now, even though they are supposed to be improving it. The newly renovations look good, but it's the housekeeping and breakfast service was no good, infact both of them were NIL. We stayed for 4 nights and each day we never saw a cleaner in our room and our beds did not get changed until we left. Reception staff said they only do room after departure and only give fresh towels. We had to empty our room bins ourselves and take them down to reception to get emptied. There were no phones in the room so if you wanted something, we had keep going up and down to get things. The desperately need better cleaners in this hotel, the computer room downstairs near the reception, there were lots of empty bottles and rubbish in there, nothing much was clean. It stated that in included breakfast with the room, this breakast consisted of just a bagel and hot drink. They have a bar, but it was not open and not used at all. A little advice, if you want to go out for something decent to eat and drink, head to a place called Clancy's Tavern in Ocean Grove, the address is... 25 South Main Street Neptune, NJ 07753 They have some really good shops in that area too and a good launderette if needed :-) Don't be walking around on your own late at night in Asbury Park!! This TripAdvisor Member: Liked CLose by to the Stone Pony and other entertainment and Beach Disliked Room Service and hotel amenities --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also think that The Berkley could use the pressure of other hotels in order to push them to step up and get their act together. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: How many rooms there are in other towns and what level of supply would be too much. Does anyone have any insight on this topic? dan Enough rooms that owners want to buy more or add on... You can go to AC in the summer and not get a room or get one, but pay out the nose or today, drive down Rt 30 toards the marina disrict - and see rooms from abou $29 sun-thursday... or get free
[AsburyPark] Re: Hotels and BB's
Here's the 2 most recent Berkley reviews on Trip Advisor; Can I get directions to the nearest hospital Berkeley Hotel gtipunk10 philadelphia pa Nov 18, 2008 A bunch of our friends were in town to see a band that we all knew have their final show. So in addition to the room we had there were several other rooms booked in the same party or group. The hotel is as other reviews have stated trying to be hip and swanky. But it should deff not fool you. Just because there is an ihome in every room doesn't make it nice. It does lack a lot of normal amenities such as a mini-fridge. The place didn't even have a vending machine. What hotel do you know where you can not even get a bottle of water from a vending machine?! The next morning before check out a member staying in our room went to use the horribly designed shower. Instead of a shower curtain or a door there was just a stationary piece of glass about a 1/4 thick x 3'-6 wide to the ceiling. So needless to say water goes all over and doesn't stay in the shower. The person who was taking a shower leaned out to grab a towel with one hand out the glass and it fell out. Just came right out. He managed to catch it however since the water was running everything was slippery and it still fell on him. Causing a bloody mess! When I called down to the front desk to see what I was supposed to do she said she would send someone up. It was taking forever and we couldn't wait so I went down to the desk to ask for directions to the nearest hospital. The front desk woman said I was rude even though I apologized to the people in line when I butted it to get the directions. She then started to rattle off street names to me as though I knew where I was. In which case would I really be staying in your hotel or asking you where the hospital was. When I asked her for something that was written down I got an eye roll and attitude. When I got back upstairs the maintenance man was now in the room. He looked at the directions and told me they were incorrect. She then fought with the guy who's name the room at the desk about the incident but then got the manager to come in. Apparently he was nice and comped the room. And corporate is supposed to pickup the medical charges but we will see what happens there. So after a 3 hour ER visit the guy had to have his toenail surgically removed. We were late getting to an event in NYC that day. And now are inconvenienced all around with the injury. I would never go there again. This TripAdvisor Member: Liked it was close to asbury lanes Disliked having to spend 3 hours at the ER Convenient for closeness but Room Sevice was bad Berkeley Hotel magrat08 UK Nov 7, 2008 I have stayed at this hotel before and have to say it was much better then it is now, even though they are supposed to be improving it. The newly renovations look good, but it's the housekeeping and breakfast service was no good, infact both of them were NIL. We stayed for 4 nights and each day we never saw a cleaner in our room and our beds did not get changed until we left. Reception staff said they only do room after departure and only give fresh towels. We had to empty our room bins ourselves and take them down to reception to get emptied. There were no phones in the room so if you wanted something, we had keep going up and down to get things. The desperately need better cleaners in this hotel, the computer room downstairs near the reception, there were lots of empty bottles and rubbish in there, nothing much was clean. It stated that in included breakfast with the room, this breakast consisted of just a bagel and hot drink. They have a bar, but it was not open and not used at all. A little advice, if you want to go out for something decent to eat and drink, head to a place called Clancy's Tavern in Ocean Grove, the address is... 25 South Main Street Neptune, NJ 07753 They have some really good shops in that area too and a good launderette if needed :-) Don't be walking around on your own late at night in Asbury Park!! This TripAdvisor Member: Liked CLose by to the Stone Pony and other entertainment and Beach Disliked Room Service and hotel amenities --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also think that The Berkley could use the pressure of other hotels in order to push them to step up and get their act together. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: How many rooms there are in other towns and what level of supply would be too much. Does anyone have any insight on this topic? dan Enough rooms that owners want to buy more or add on... You can go to AC in the summer and not get a room or get one, but pay out the nose or today, drive down Rt 30 toards the marina disrict - and see rooms from abou $29 sun-thursday... or get free
[AsburyPark] Re: Hotels and BB's
Let's do some simple math. If you built a 60 room hotel with interesting architecture. Perhaps like something you see in Ocean grove or even something like you see in sprink lake. If you could fill it up for the 16 weeks of the summer at full occupancy. Say $200 per night. 16 weeks at 7 days per week at 200 per night would yield $1.34 million in revenue. Assume 30% falls to the bottom line after tax. Would net the owner 400k per year. My guess is the initial outlay to build thought would be close to 10 million. So you would have to count on some occupancy in the shoulder months. I also agree with Jack, The Tides is an awesome place --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: How many rooms there are in other towns and what level of supply would be too much. Does anyone have any insight on this topic? dan Enough rooms that owners want to buy more or add on... You can go to AC in the summer and not get a room or get one, but pay out the nose or today, drive down Rt 30 toards the marina disrict - and see rooms from abou $29 sun-thursday... or get free rooms in the hotels or $79 rooms at the casinos... I was in hollywood fl got a room via price at a hyatt place... via priceline cheap. YOu need a mix, a choice. The problem is, you need the land to build it on. Would a 25 story hotel work? That's grand. Would a 100 room family hotel work? Right now having extra hotel rooms is not the problem. That's my thoughts for what it's worth. Throw a holiday express or other simple style hotel and you have alomst the whole shore to draw from - steps to the beach... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's do some simple math. If you built a 60 room hotel with interesting architecture. Perhaps like something you see in Ocean grove or even something like you see in sprink lake. If you could fill it up for the 16 weeks of the summer at full occupancy. Say $200 per night. 16 weeks at 7 days per week at 200 per night would yield $1.34 million in revenue. Assume 30% falls to the bottom line after tax. Would net the owner 400k per year. My guess is the initial outlay to build thought would be close to 10 million. So you would have to count on some occupancy in the shoulder months. I also agree with Jack, The Tides is an awesome place == As you know I have serious financial issues with my home, however I'm trying to arrange some financing to get my units rentable again. Do you think there would be a market in the spring for seasonal furnished apartment rentals? Or perhaps weekly/monthly/weekend rentals? I see it as an alternative to Hotel or BB type establishments. Private, self contained, and perhaps priced below either of the other two. Opinions ? Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: depends on the cost of the land and what you can build. That's why, looking at the purchase of the Berk, given all the other factors to rehab they did ok buying it. Again, given all the factors around it. Like Location. Opp for liquor and other services they can have there. Banquets etc. And for some reason that place seems to be haunted as well thorugh the years. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any data source that compiles Condo rentals offered in the City? Werner Me. Next week . Lots on the market from $1100 up. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: depends on the cost of the land and what you can build. That's why, looking at the purchase of the Berk, given all the other factors to rehab they did ok buying it. Again, given all the factors around it. Like Location. Opp for liquor and other services they can have there. Banquets etc. And for some reason that place seems to be haunted as well thorugh the years. = I think the hype of creating a premium boutique hotel exceeded the desire to deliver. Also the lack of regular programming at ConHall effects the viability of the BH. Its a good solid building - seems they spent too much on frills and are now cutting back on basic service. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the $ question, what would the city allow you to do by zoning? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: the $ question, what would the city allow you to do by zoning? === It is what it is... 5 units, I occupy 1 = 4 rentals. Or It could be downsized to fewer larger units. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its a good solid building - seems they spent too much on frills and are now cutting back on basic service. Werner Opportunity. How they deliver is another issue. The place seems to be serving THEIR purposes. Be nice to see a responsbile chain / operator really manage it and run it, market it etc. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I wandered thru the place last year, the ball rooms are fantastic. Is it possible that they are just living off of that and the rooms used for weddings and such? maybe the Hotel part is just a side business. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: Its a good solid building - seems they spent too much on frills and are now cutting back on basic service. Werner Opportunity. How they deliver is another issue. The place seems to be serving THEIR purposes. Be nice to see a responsbile chain / operator really manage it and run it, market it etc. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I like Holiday Express. Great value too! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: How many rooms there are in other towns and what level of supply would be too much. Does anyone have any insight on this topic? dan Enough rooms that owners want to buy more or add on... You can go to AC in the summer and not get a room or get one, but pay out the nose or today, drive down Rt 30 toards the marina disrict - and see rooms from abou $29 sun-thursday... or get free rooms in the hotels or $79 rooms at the casinos... I was in hollywood fl got a room via price at a hyatt place... via priceline cheap. YOu need a mix, a choice. The problem is, you need the land to build it on. Would a 25 story hotel work? That's grand. Would a 100 room family hotel work? Right now having extra hotel rooms is not the problem. That's my thoughts for what it's worth. Throw a holiday express or other simple style hotel and you have alomst the whole shore to draw from - steps to the beach... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
