[AsburyPark] Re: Living in a virtual world - the value of forums
Jack, Are you serious? I've said and so has others, that the Mayor, was born and raised here, educated here, is a veteran, having served honorably, is known by his peers, highly respected by the same and while having a message, still only has one vote! It sometimes appears that he is not outspoken, but he fervently works behind the scenes, is a child advocate, husband and father. He was the highest vote getter, making him the choice for Mayor, while the Deputy Mayor, Mr. Bruno, also born and raised here, a bit more assertive and aggressive than Mr. Sanders, made for two native born, home grown officials, in AP. You can't get more qualified than that! My opinion. I believe in my heart that they and the other three men, want a better Asbury Park. That said, we don't always agree on how to get it. I don't know where Mr. Johnson was born or James Keady, but they are legitimate residents, as well. Mr. Loffredo is/was from Neptune, but has been a resident of AP, for some time and is a homeowner. I highly respect him, personally. I don't always agree, with any of them, but I have been misinformed about issues also. What I'm saying is, I give them the benefit of the doubt. I can be wrong too! Sometimes, I think, we are a bit harsh on them, but it is believed that in all politics, those in power, sometimes feel, that their constituents, don't NEED or HAVE to know, everything! I say, the more OPEN government is, the less suspicious/secretive, or name calling, as in almost any adjective, the people you serve, are less likely to accuse! I am as guilty as anyone, when what we perceive as a bad decision; name some here_, are made and its' decided the less we know, the better! Voters are more likely to ask for a recall, special election, investigations, get the prosecutor or FBI involved. Some of the more rogueish incidents of late, were the surrounding of a residents home, from anonymous tips, the fear generated, when a representative of the FCC, sucessfully shut down a radio show, the false arrest of a citizen and incarceration, intending on shutting him up, permenantly, the repeated requests for surveillance of a public square, which should be one of the centerpieces in town, only to see the area, abused over and over, but have funds for a horse patrol; impressive, but of no use! Now that I've spoken my piece, my a$$, is probably grass, for using my right of the 1st amendment! Now, I'll probably NEVER get my 40 acres, or that mule! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for picking on the mayor, tell me this. Has he ever given a press conference after a murder? Is he well known to ALL the citizens of our city? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: So, in virtual AP, what characters do you think we would all play? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Can the city be run by a forum or a combination Could a forum, by city residents (and outsiders...) runa real city? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Living in a virtual world - the value of forums
Yes Sharon, I'm very serious. I don't know the mayor personally, but I do intend to get to know him. I'm going to try and arrange a meeting with him this week. When you say It sometimes appears that he is not outspoken, but he fervently works behind the scenes that says much to me. We need an outspoken mayor. We need him on the news, we need him to be publicly visible. There has been too much behind the scenes action in our city. Outside opinion of AP is currently at an all time low. People outside of this city have very little that is good to say about it, and the public at large doesn't have much faith in our cities administration. If I'm wrong, I stand corrected, but this is my opinion. When we have a police office saying to me that we don't have enough officers, we have a problem. And here's a few other opinions of mine; 1) I saw police officers patroling on Cookman and Main last night, near the restaraunts. Great, right? Well, who are they protecting? I'd like to know if an equal force was out in the parts of the city where the majority of crime is taking place. 2) Somehow our city finds the money to give Mayor's Balls, fund a Columbus Day event and buy a scant 2 horses and equip 2 police officers to ride them. How much did that cost? And where are they patroling? In the areas where people can see them. It's a show. Meanwhile, we had a murder the other night. Please connect the dots. 3) Is somebody instructing the Asbury Park Press to be silent about crime in our city? If not, why isn't the story of the 19 year olds murder front page news yet? What about the 8 bullets shot at kids last week? That story came and went like an afterthought. Does anybody else see a problem with this? I think the time has come for much more publicity about the horrible stuff that is going on in our city. This will force out administration to act. Finally, i've said this once, and I'll repeat it a thousand times until it makes a differerence... All the redevelopment in the world isn't going to make a bit of difference for our future until this city is perceived to be a safe place to move to and live in. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, Are you serious? I've said and so has others, that the Mayor, was born and raised here, educated here, is a veteran, having served honorably, is known by his peers, highly respected by the same and while having a message, still only has one vote! It sometimes appears that he is not outspoken, but he fervently works behind the scenes, is a child advocate, husband and father. He was the highest vote getter, making him the choice for Mayor, while the Deputy Mayor, Mr. Bruno, also born and raised here, a bit more assertive and aggressive than Mr. Sanders, made for two native born, home grown officials, in AP. You can't get more qualified than that! My opinion. I believe in my heart that they and the other three men, want a better Asbury Park. That said, we don't always agree on how to get it. I don't know where Mr. Johnson was born or James Keady, but they are legitimate residents, as well. Mr. Loffredo is/was from Neptune, but has been a resident of AP, for some time and is a homeowner. I highly respect him, personally. I don't always agree, with any of them, but I have been misinformed about issues also. What I'm saying is, I give them the benefit of the doubt. I can be wrong too! Sometimes, I think, we are a bit harsh on them, but it is believed that in all politics, those in power, sometimes feel, that their constituents, don't NEED or HAVE to know, everything! I say, the more OPEN government is, the less suspicious/secretive, or name calling, as in almost any adjective, the people you serve, are less likely to accuse! I am as guilty as anyone, when what we perceive as a bad decision; name some here_, are made and its' decided the less we know, the better! Voters are more likely to ask for a recall, special election, investigations, get the prosecutor or FBI involved. Some of the more rogueish incidents of late, were the surrounding of a residents home, from anonymous tips, the fear generated, when a representative of the FCC, sucessfully shut down a radio show, the false arrest of a citizen and incarceration, intending on shutting him up, permenantly, the repeated requests for surveillance of a public square, which should be one of the centerpieces in town, only to see the area, abused over and over, but have funds for a horse patrol; impressive, but of no use! Now that I've spoken my piece, my a$$, is probably grass, for using my right of the 1st amendment! Now, I'll probably NEVER get my 40 acres, or that mule! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: As for picking on the mayor, tell me this. Has he ever given a press conference after a murder? Is he well known to ALL the
[AsburyPark] Re: Living in a virtual world - the value of forums
So, in virtual AP, what characters do you think we would all play? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can the city be run by a forum or a combination Could a forum, by city residents (and outsiders...) runa real city? Could there be a virtual mayor and council made of experts qualified residents and non-residents who decide how a city should be run? Can you create a virtual zoning and planning board - where all plans and documents and arguments are made or submitted over the Internet and decisions are handed down based on a given set of rules or votes created by standards and adaptations of? Where's the virtual lawyer? The forums, like this yahoo board even as crazy as it gets, enables discussion and thoughts about given community. Leaders should acknowledge them and accept them for what they are. A secret voice into the reality. No 3 minute rules. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Living in a virtual world - the value of forums
I will talk to the mayor. I've already sent an email to Reidy. Also, you mentioned email addresses. Yes, I can figure that out for myself, but don't you think it's a serious oversight that somebody might need to figure that out for themselves? All of their email addresses should be on the city website. Email is an easy and effective method for a large group of people to send a message to our cities various officials. As for picking on the mayor, tell me this. Has he ever given a press conference after a murder? Is he well known to ALL the citizens of our city? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, in virtual AP, what characters do you think we would all play? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Can the city be run by a forum or a combination Could a forum, by city residents (and outsiders...) runa real city? Could there be a virtual mayor and council made of experts qualified residents and non-residents who decide how a city should be run? Can you create a virtual zoning and planning board - where all plans and documents and arguments are made or submitted over the Internet and decisions are handed down based on a given set of rules or votes created by standards and adaptations of? Where's the virtual lawyer? The forums, like this yahoo board even as crazy as it gets, enables discussion and thoughts about given community. Leaders should acknowledge them and accept them for what they are. A secret voice into the reality. No 3 minute rules. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Living in a virtual world - the value of forums
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think many of us have said the citys web site is a joke, its time to get over the excuse that joe d passed, no doubt it should be fixed, as far as has the mayor ever held press conferences, not sure you can ask him, is he well known to all, i honestly believe so again thank you and i appreciate you taking my thoughts as constructive criticism and not ball busting se you at the roller derby, again thank you --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: So, in virtual AP, what characters do you think we would all play? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Can the city be run by a forum or a combination Could a forum, by city residents (and outsiders...) runa real city? Could there be a virtual mayor and council made of experts qualified residents and non-residents who decide how a city should be run? Can you create a virtual zoning and planning board - where all plans and documents and arguments are made or submitted over the Internet and decisions are handed down based on a given set of rules or votes created by standards and adaptations of? Where's the virtual lawyer? The forums, like this yahoo board even as crazy as it gets, enables discussion and thoughts about given community. Leaders should acknowledge them and accept them for what they are. A secret voice into the reality. No 3 minute rules. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
