[AsburyPark] Re: Skeptics say Economic Impact Unclear

2007-11-08 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ditto, my last post!  Forgot to mention Oakdorf!  Thanks again Oak,
 for educating me!  Werner, these two posts are the AP, my kids were
 raised with BF, to borrow your acronym!

  And, for a blast from the past regarding 'holistic' development read
  my writings from BF (Before Fishman):
  
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/372
  
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/603
  
==

Looking at the discussions about redevelopment of 6 years ago is a
sobering experience. 

I foresaw many of the problems we have today but no one paid attention
  to the information.

Very telling is the timing of my 'exile' from participating in the
process at the time. The process was developer driven, not based upon
good planning.

Perhaps now we can prevent that from happening again with this 'global
settlement' being discussed in secret.

Werner 



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Skeptics say Economic Impact Unclear

2007-11-07 Thread 2fine4u
Ditto, my last post!  Forgot to mention Oakdorf!  Thanks again Oak,
for educating me!  Werner, these two posts are the AP, my kids were
raised with BF, to borrow your acronym!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario MarioAPNJ@ wrote:
 
  Sobering thoughts about the arena.  I remember when, a long time
ago, AP
  had all its hopes in one or two baskets (gambling, Jai alai, etc.). 
  Hope we stay on track with a holistic approach as mentioned in this
  article.   Adapted from  Newark Arena's Economic Impact Unclear -
  New York Times
 ==
 
 And, for a blast from the past regarding 'holistic' development read
 my writings from BF (Before Fishman):
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/372
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/603
 
 Werner





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Skeptics say Economic Impact Unclear

2007-11-06 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sobering thoughts about the arena.  I remember when, a long time 
ago, AP
 had all its hopes in one or two baskets (gambling, Jai alai, etc.). 
 Hope we stay on track with a holistic approach as mentioned in 
this
 article.   Adapted from  Newark Arena's Economic Impact Unclear -


Newark has a major corporate sponsor.

Prudential. 

I spent 2+ years working at Pru in NEwark. And I walked almost every 
street-  that was before it was where it was today. (about 7 years 
ago) I thought my name was legally changed to whitey or white 
boy. I think I bought the movie good burger on the street, right 
in front of the Newark cop. 

Newark has other corporatations there as well - office workers. Court 
house, where a lwayer I spoke to the other day about the Esperanza 
told me bullets bounced off the court house not so long agoAsbury 
was nothing to be afraid of.

I was eating lunch outside the train station and Gateway center once, 
and I thought they were filming a tv show. Watched as a women had her 
bag grabbed from her and the perp running down the street, the women 
f'in him as she chased him, then 2 newark transit police who couldn't 
move to well...

Newark is a better place. 

That is, until Don Pepe's served me cold chicken and destroyed their 
Tiramasu.







 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Skeptics say Economic Impact Unclear

2007-11-06 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sobering thoughts about the arena.  I remember when, a long time ago, AP
 had all its hopes in one or two baskets (gambling, Jai alai, etc.). 
 Hope we stay on track with a holistic approach as mentioned in this
 article.   Adapted from  Newark Arena's Economic Impact Unclear -
 New York Times
==

And, for a blast from the past regarding 'holistic' development read
my writings from BF (Before Fishman):

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/372

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/603

Werner



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Skeptics say Economic Impact Unclear

2007-11-06 Thread oakdorf
I was wondering, can we/should we list all of OUR accomplishments 
for the pat SIX (6) years? 

How about our goals on how we will improve our life/our friends or 
friends to be over the NEXT SIX (6) years.


Who wants to go first?

Actaully, Jack is first. He is doing something to solve a problem.

Next






 
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