[AsburyPark] Re: Survellience Cameras

2007-10-25 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 AGAIN I SAY-I'm sure the pizza place on the corner of Ridge and
Springwood gets a big cut from the drug dealings that go on in and
around the store.   
  
 If your on the up and up how can you not notice what is going on
around or in your store.  Are you blind to your surroundings or do you
just not want to see what's going on.
 

I have heard the same about the Emory Deli and some back door.
Difficult sometimes to catch them but you have to make it your
business to do it. Set up and sit on them.

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[AsburyPark] Re: Survellience Cameras

2007-10-25 Thread evosap
If only you guys were into watching the terry weldons as opposed to
petty crime!



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Survellience Cameras

2007-10-25 Thread evosap
i'd have to see some research on that.  i am not against the
surveillance cameras, but i think people on this list are a little
obsessed.  and fearful to the point of paranoia.  i feel like i live
in a different town when i read what is written here.  i ride my bike
all  over the place, at night i feel like i live in a jersey paradise,
great trees, cool buildings and of course the beach..  

i would like to hear from one person on this list who has been a
victim of a violent crime in AP...doesn't count if you were buying
drugs or ass!


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember one thing nine times out of ten you have to go to the
little people to get the big people
 
 Sometimes the petty things turn into something big.   
 
 
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 Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:16:24 PM
 Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Survellience Cameras
 
 If only you guys were into watching the terry weldons as opposed to
 petty crime!
 
 
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Survellience Cameras

2007-10-25 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i would like to hear from one person on this list who has been a
 victim of a violent crime in AP...doesn't count if you were buying
 drugs or ass!

Ah, an artist needs some grist for the mill. Right, we should be
worrrying about the Malaysian child sex trade instead of local
problems. How petty of us. A poem please.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Survellience Cameras

2007-10-25 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wow, you have had all those crime experiences here?  you make some bad
 choices.  i never had one even remotely close to anything like that. i
 even go to the west side regularly ek!  and no of course i am none
 of those things, id be blowing my cover.  
 
 you all need to read The culture of Fear.  you are the culture of fear

Wow, a real hipster! What happened, got price out of Billyburg? You'll
get priced out of here soon enough too.




 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Survellience Cameras

2007-10-25 Thread Gary Wien
I haven't been mugged or victim of a violent crime myself (been  
coming to Asbury since '76 or so) but I have had the pleasant  
experience of having several bottles thrown at my car by a group of  
kids on a street corner one night within the last two years.  Might  
not sound like much but at the time it looked like I might have  
turned down a street owned by a gang with the way they were coming  
after me.  And I don't care who you are if it looks like a gang of  
7-8 people  are approaching you and you're alone, it's a nervous  
situation.


Other than that just the normal stuff of being asked for money by a  
lot of different panhandlers.  That gets annoying after a while and  
considering most of us see the same people doing it day in and day  
out, it does make me wonder why they're allowed to keep doing it in AP.


I don't think the posters are wrong to want Asbury Park to be a  
better or cleaner place.  Considering that not too much (other than  
Cookman Ave returning) has changed in the last 30 years, I'd say the  
status quo isn't working.




On Oct 25, 2007, at 4:42 PM, evosap wrote:


i'd have to see some research on that. i am not against the
surveillance cameras, but i think people on this list are a little
obsessed. and fearful to the point of paranoia. i feel like i live
in a different town when i read what is written here. i ride my bike
all over the place, at night i feel like i live in a jersey paradise,
great trees, cool buildings and of course the beach..

i would like to hear from one person on this list who has been a
victim of a violent crime in AP...doesn't count if you were buying
drugs or ass!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember one thing nine times out of ten you have to go to the
little people to get the big people

 Sometimes the petty things turn into something big.


 - Original Message 
 From: evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:16:24 PM
 Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Survellience Cameras

 If only you guys were into watching the terry weldons as opposed to
 petty crime!




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[AsburyPark] Re: Survellience Cameras

2007-10-25 Thread dapawprint
Gabrielle, do you Paint Hair or have you ever Painted Hair in a 
shop on Cookman Ave. in Asbury Park, NJ. ?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 that would have been scary, i agree.  but nothing other than cookman
 changed?  that's a gross exaggeration.  the change to the whole 
place
 in the last four years is immense.  i don't think wanting a cleaner
 place is bad, i just wonder about people who move to a place wanting
 it to be different than it is.  kinda stupid i think.  i moved here
 knowing what it is, accepting it and loving it.
 
 yeah i am more concerned about having cameras on loffredo, bruno,
 saunders, johnson,  and MY favorite wackjob..zyla, you can throw in
 the russell character, than some crack buyer and purchaser behind 
some
 shady store that no one with insight and intelligence would visit.
 
 
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote:
 
  I haven't been mugged or victim of a violent crime myself (been  
  coming to Asbury since '76 or so) but I have had the pleasant  
  experience of having several bottles thrown at my car by a group 
of  
  kids on a street corner one night within the last two years.  
Might  
  not sound like much but at the time it looked like I might have  
  turned down a street owned by a gang with the way they were 
coming  
  after me.  And I don't care who you are if it looks like a gang 
of  
  7-8 people  are approaching you and you're alone, it's a nervous  
  situation.
  
  Other than that just the normal stuff of being asked for money by 
a  
  lot of different panhandlers.  That gets annoying after a while 
and  
  considering most of us see the same people doing it day in and 
day  
  out, it does make me wonder why they're allowed to keep doing it 
in AP.
  
  I don't think the posters are wrong to want Asbury Park to be a  
  better or cleaner place.  Considering that not too much (other 
than  
  Cookman Ave returning) has changed in the last 30 years, I'd say 
the  
  status quo isn't working.
  
  
  
  On Oct 25, 2007, at 4:42 PM, evosap wrote:
  
   i'd have to see some research on that. i am not against the
   surveillance cameras, but i think people on this list are a 
little
   obsessed. and fearful to the point of paranoia. i feel like i 
live
   in a different town when i read what is written here. i ride my 
bike
   all over the place, at night i feel like i live in a jersey 
paradise,
   great trees, cool buildings and of course the beach..
  
   i would like to hear from one person on this list who has been a
   victim of a violent crime in AP...doesn't count if you were 
buying
   drugs or ass!
  
   --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise denisemchd@ wrote:
   
Remember one thing nine times out of ten you have to go to the
   little people to get the big people
   
Sometimes the petty things turn into something big.
   
   
- Original Message 
From: evosap gabrielleobre@
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:16:24 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Survellience Cameras
   
If only you guys were into watching the terry weldons as 
opposed to
petty crime!
   
   
   
   
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Survellience Cameras

2007-10-25 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 10/25/2007 5:26:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I haven't been mugged or victim of a violent crime myself (been coming to  
Asbury since '76 or so)

Not have I (since '66).  But I know how important perception  is for our 
business community.  I still remember, back in the 70's,  outsiders talking 
about 
being afraid of Asbury Park because they hide up in  the trees and jump down 
to mug you when you're leaving the clubs late at  night.  Such bs  still 
abounds, but it doesn't obviate the need to  tackle the problems we really do 
have.

but I have had the pleasant experience of having several bottles thrown  at 
my car by a group of kids on a street corner one night within the last two  
years.  

Here just the unpleasant experience of being approached when  stopped at red 
lights along Grand Ave.  I just wave 'em off with no  problem.  But the 
bridge and tunnel folks who were approached and  frightened by the squeegee 
guys 
in NYC eventually brought the business  community there to insist that that 
nuisance be stopped.  Without the  hope for a thriving business community here, 
all the talk here is for  naught.
 

Other than that just the normal stuff of being asked for money by a lot  of 
different panhandlers.  That gets annoying after a while and  considering most 
of us see the same people doing it day in and day out, it  does make me wonder 
why they're allowed to keep doing it in  AP.

You get to know the regulars; over the years many became accepted  by locals. 
Used to be some long time street people here, all actual  natives, who were 
truly helpless and watched over by the community.  But the uptick in new 
panhandlers became quite obvious since JSRM  came on the scene.

I don't think the posters are wrong to want Asbury Park to be a better or  
cleaner place.  

I know it's not wrong.  Pride in community.   Improvements, hopefully to 
benefit all.
 
And the following comment is so off the wall, it doesn't deserve  comment.
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/25/2007 6:07:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

yeah i  am more concerned about having cameras on loffredo, bruno,
saunders,  johnson, and MY favorite wackjob..zyla, you can throw in
the russell  character, than some crack buyer and purchaser behind some
shady store that  no one with insight and intelligence would  visit.



==

On Oct 25, 2007, at 4:42 PM, evosap wrote:



 
 
i'd  have to see some research on that. i am not against the
surveillance cameras, but i  think people on this list are a little
obsessed. and fearful to the  point of paranoia. i feel like i live
in a different town when i  read what is written here. i ride my bike
all over the place, at night i  feel like i live in a jersey paradise,
great trees, cool buildings  and of course the beach.. 

i would like to hear from one  person on this list who has been a
victim of a violent crime in  AP...doesn't count if you were buying
drugs or  ass!






 
Cordiali  saluti,

Mario



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[AsburyPark] Re: Survellience Cameras

2007-10-25 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  somehow related to blowjob dancause i think you all could use
 one

In the words of my favorite president Slick Willy

Who couldn't?





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Survellience Cameras

2007-10-25 Thread dfsavgny
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 now i am really gonna get monkey boxed...what ever that means boys.


It's monkey cage sweetie, and you own it.




 
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