[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-16 Thread dfsavgny


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Actually MM is paying for those cops to be at the meters. I've complained 
already about that and Mayor Ed is aware of it himself.







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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-16 Thread cbrianwatkins
Meters are so easy to use its ridiculous, such a waste having police there 
while the Southwest side of town shoots each other up

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Actually MM is paying for those cops to be at the meters. I've complained 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-15 Thread new_beetoap

The failure of AP...

The failure...

No change or improvements in 2 years

Guess AP is 'done'...

Watching...








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[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-15 Thread asburycouple
Yeah, it's amazing sometimes to hear the comments on this board.  I for one am 
astonished by the turn-around that's in progress but still relatively new 
(while there was grassroots efforts, really not much major happened until 3-4 
years ago).  Is it perfect - no, but it never will be.  It never will be 
anywhere...  And while it's always important to point on when things could be 
better, let's have some realism.  In the worst economy in a generation things 
here continue to move forward - albeit at a little slower pace.  

So complain about parking - things can and should get better.  But how about a 
bit of perspective.  At least the city's making revenue (like every other shore 
town) for parking as they should.





--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatk...@... wrote:

 You're right on point with that, next summer the boardwalk  will be a ghost 
 town, and by xmas, there will be no more business' downtown, and there surely 
 won't be any new business' opening up here in town, the violent crime numbers 
 will be back to what they were 5yrs ago, and the sky is filled with purple 
 polka dots, and flying dragons
 
 
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 The failure of AP...
 
 The failure...
 
 No change or improvements in 2 years
 
 Guess AP is 'done'...
 
 Watching...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-15 Thread Hinge

So wait a second. You think it's somehow Amazing to hear somebody who can't 
find a parking space in front of his own home, and sometimes for blocks around, 
address a growing problem. I agree, AP is currently kicking ass, but along with 
success comes growing pains.
My neighborhood fills up every weekend day, and most nights, yet the paid lots 
usually have tons of available spaces. MM employees take up most of the parking 
between Kingsley and Bergh. But here's what you don't know...the block between 
AP Ave and 1st ave, along Bergh is used by boardwalk visitors. And in the past 
2 weeks, there has been one break-in after another. There's still lot's of 
glass from smashed car windows. That block has become an easy target for 
thieves, because it's very dark at night.If it were designated as residential 
parking only, this wouldn't be happening, and it never happens off season. I 
agree the city needs the money from paid parking, but people  are finding quite 
a few ways around that issue, and for some, it results is a loss. That's worth 
talking about, isn't it?
For the record, I don't just discuss this here. While my schedule doesn't 
permit council meetings, I call City Hall, and send emails.
I think it's entirely valid to suggest differentiating between resident and 
visitor parking.
If your neighborhood was affected, I tend to think you'd feel the same. Maybe 
I'm wrong. But lets say I can't find parking, and I wind up on that block on 
Bergh, and my car gets broken into. Should I just shut up for the sake of 
progress? 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycou...@... wrote:

 Yeah, it's amazing sometimes to hear the comments on this board.  I for one 
 am astonished by the turn-around that's in progress but still relatively new 
 (while there was grassroots efforts, really not much major happened until 3-4 
 years ago).  Is it perfect - no, but it never will be.  It never will be 
 anywhere...  And while it's always important to point on when things could be 
 better, let's have some realism.  In the worst economy in a generation things 
 here continue to move forward - albeit at a little slower pace.  
 
 So complain about parking - things can and should get better.  But how about 
 a bit of perspective.  At least the city's making revenue (like every other 
 shore town) for parking as they should.
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote:
 
  You're right on point with that, next summer the boardwalk  will be a ghost 
  town, and by xmas, there will be no more business' downtown, and there 
  surely won't be any new business' opening up here in town, the violent 
  crime numbers will be back to what they were 5yrs ago, and the sky is 
  filled with purple polka dots, and flying dragons
  
  
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
  
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  The failure of AP...
  
  The failure...
  
  No change or improvements in 2 years
  
  Guess AP is 'done'...
  
  Watching...
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-15 Thread cbrianwatkins
It still astounds me people try to avoid parking for 50cents an hour, FIFTY 
CENTS and hour

6hrs at the beach is $3 for parking

That same amount of time in any shore town will run $20-30

Last night my family went to Point and paid $40 for 4hrs of parking

Hinge - everyone in my household have all written (both letters and emails) to 
City Hall about the parking situation by you, and urged a residential parking 
plan for the first 4 blocks moving west off Kingsley, to date we have not 
heard back at all, we have also reminded everyone on the council how the 
election process works in our last round of emails

We'll see I guess

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So wait a second. You think it's somehow Amazing to hear somebody who can't 
find a parking space in front of his own home, and sometimes for blocks around, 
address a growing problem. I agree, AP is currently kicking ass, but along with 
success comes growing pains.
My neighborhood fills up every weekend day, and most nights, yet the paid lots 
usually have tons of available spaces. MM employees take up most of the parking 
between Kingsley and Bergh. But here's what you don't know...the block between 
AP Ave and 1st ave, along Bergh is used by boardwalk visitors. And in the past 
2 weeks, there has been one break-in after another. There's still lot's of 
glass from smashed car windows. That block has become an easy target for 
thieves, because it's very dark at night.If it were designated as residential 
parking only, this wouldn't be happening, and it never happens off season. I 
agree the city needs the money from paid parking, but people  are finding quite 
a few ways around that issue, and for some, it results is a loss. That's worth 
talking about, isn't it?
For the record, I don't just discuss this here. While my schedule doesn't 
permit council meetings, I call City Hall, and send emails.
I think it's entirely valid to suggest differentiating between resident and 
visitor parking.
If your neighborhood was affected, I tend to think you'd feel the same. Maybe 
I'm wrong. But lets say I can't find parking, and I wind up on that block on 
Bergh, and my car gets broken into. Should I just shut up for the sake of 
progress? 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycou...@... wrote:

 Yeah, it's amazing sometimes to hear the comments on this board.  I for one 
 am astonished by the turn-around that's in progress but still relatively new 
 (while there was grassroots efforts, really not much major happened until 3-4 
 years ago).  Is it perfect - no, but it never will be.  It never will be 
 anywhere...  And while it's always important to point on when things could be 
 better, let's have some realism.  In the worst economy in a generation things 
 here continue to move forward - albeit at a little slower pace.  
 
 So complain about parking - things can and should get better.  But how about 
 a bit of perspective.  At least the city's making revenue (like every other 
 shore town) for parking as they should.
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote:
 
  You're right on point with that, next summer the boardwalk  will be a ghost 
  town, and by xmas, there will be no more business' downtown, and there 
  surely won't be any new business' opening up here in town, the violent 
  crime numbers will be back to what they were 5yrs ago, and the sky is 
  filled with purple polka dots, and flying dragons
  
  
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
  
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  To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
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  Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking
  
  
  The failure of AP...
  
  The failure...
  
  No change or improvements in 2 years
  
  Guess AP is 'done'...
  
  Watching...
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-15 Thread Hinge
To me, this is the bigger picture. Most cities with tourist attractions, that 
have paid parking bordering on residential areas employee Residential Parking 
Only areas. That's standard, and we should do the same thing. If I had to pay 
$15 a year for that privilege, great, I'd be happy to do so. But, since we 
don't, the city loses money because getting around paying to park means walk a 
little. Wouldn't it be in the cities best interest to maximize the usage of 
their paid parking then? And is it really fair to force boardwalk employees to 
park a few blocks away when they can have an employee parking area on site? I 
talked to a girl recently who left work at Stella late one night to find her 
window smashed on Bergh. That could easily be avoided.
Next, are people aware that the city is planning on spending a rather huge sum 
of money to replace the poorly designed parking meters? They won't get a refund 
for what they've already purchased and have found to be troublesome. To that 
end, is it realistic to post police officers at the meters because people find 
them so hard to use? 
None of this issues should be dismissed as amazing, and should be discussed. 
It's about planning for the future. AP is moving forward in leaps and bounds, 
which is truly amazing, but the city needs to smartly grow along with it.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatk...@... wrote:

 It still astounds me people try to avoid parking for 50cents an hour, FIFTY 
 CENTS and hour
 
 6hrs at the beach is $3 for parking
 
 That same amount of time in any shore town will run $20-30
 
 Last night my family went to Point and paid $40 for 4hrs of parking
 
 Hinge - everyone in my household have all written (both letters and emails) 
 to City Hall about the parking situation by you, and urged a residential 
 parking plan for the first 4 blocks moving west off Kingsley, to date we 
 have not heard back at all, we have also reminded everyone on the council how 
 the election process works in our last round of emails
 
 We'll see I guess
 
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
 
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 Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 22:03:48 
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 Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking
 
 
 So wait a second. You think it's somehow Amazing to hear somebody who can't 
 find a parking space in front of his own home, and sometimes for blocks 
 around, address a growing problem. I agree, AP is currently kicking ass, but 
 along with success comes growing pains.
 My neighborhood fills up every weekend day, and most nights, yet the paid 
 lots usually have tons of available spaces. MM employees take up most of the 
 parking between Kingsley and Bergh. But here's what you don't know...the 
 block between AP Ave and 1st ave, along Bergh is used by boardwalk visitors. 
 And in the past 2 weeks, there has been one break-in after another. There's 
 still lot's of glass from smashed car windows. That block has become an easy 
 target for thieves, because it's very dark at night.If it were designated as 
 residential parking only, this wouldn't be happening, and it never happens 
 off season. I agree the city needs the money from paid parking, but people  
 are finding quite a few ways around that issue, and for some, it results is a 
 loss. That's worth talking about, isn't it?
 For the record, I don't just discuss this here. While my schedule doesn't 
 permit council meetings, I call City Hall, and send emails.
 I think it's entirely valid to suggest differentiating between resident and 
 visitor parking.
 If your neighborhood was affected, I tend to think you'd feel the same. Maybe 
 I'm wrong. But lets say I can't find parking, and I wind up on that block on 
 Bergh, and my car gets broken into. Should I just shut up for the sake of 
 progress? 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote:
 
  Yeah, it's amazing sometimes to hear the comments on this board.  I for one 
  am astonished by the turn-around that's in progress but still relatively 
  new (while there was grassroots efforts, really not much major happened 
  until 3-4 years ago).  Is it perfect - no, but it never will be.  It never 
  will be anywhere...  And while it's always important to point on when 
  things could be better, let's have some realism.  In the worst economy in a 
  generation things here continue to move forward - albeit at a little slower 
  pace.  
  
  So complain about parking - things can and should get better.  But how 
  about a bit of perspective.  At least the city's making revenue (like every 
  other shore town) for parking as they should.
  
  
  
  
  
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote:
  
   You're right on point with that, next summer the boardwalk  will be a 
   ghost town, and by xmas, there will be no more business' downtown, and 
   there surely

[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-12 Thread Sharon
Yo Glenn,
I am all too familiar with alternate side, etc.  Remember our news comes from 
NYC, if you don't have Cablevision, of which, I'm glad to have News 12!  FYI, I 
read Maureen's piece, too.  She's about all we have left, save 1 or 2 people 
that still raise their voices!  Like you, I had given up on this group, because 
it became too commercial
for want of another adjective and I LIVE here!

The West Side is all choked up with STREET construction, more than anything 
else, a HUGE pile of dirt on Memorial Drive where PEOPLE are still trying to 
live, if you call that, living.  I see no people of color working over there, 
when there are many minority companies begging to get in on some of that 
so-called stimulus money.  I don't see no 20% of nothing, over there, while 
shiny red trucks from
out of state and County are jamming up the streets, with no notice to 
residents.  You leave home and if you don't travel Asbury Ave., like I
don't, you run head long into construction, none of which a Black or brown 
face, is present.

Okay, fire away!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawpr...@... wrote:

 All,
 
 Possibly none of you noticed, but I recently left the group due to 
 aggravation of the usual complaining with lack of action.  I have joined 
 again and feel like I am absolutely crazy replying to this thread.  However, 
 I shall reply.
 
 @Sharon: Alternate side of the street parking is a rule.  Those of us with 
 good parents should know how rules work.  If I lived by you and I forgot 
 and received a ticket.. well, that is My bad.
 
 @Oak:  Excellent Point!!  Even on the busiest nights, and I was there for 
 Gaslight Anthem AND Frampton, the lot by the Carousel House was not fully 
 used.  iStar and Madison Marquette should cone-off the far side of the lot 
 for Parking of THEIR employees... and they should do the same in their other 
 lots.  If not free, for a fraction of the cost of City Parking.
 
 @Hinge:  I like the resident parking sticker idea, but it still will not 
 guarantee a parking spot, just the lack of a ticket.  It will not help your 
 ability to come and go.  Resident Parking Spaces in conjunction with Resident 
 Parking Stickers works. Residents with stickers should be able to request 
 towing at the vehicle owners expense.  The lot behind The Empress, by the 
 way, is one of the reasons that I got fed up with this group and left.  And 
 it has a LOT to do with one of Brian's comments to this tread.  This thread 
 ALSO has to do with my aggravation.  Let me explain.  Complaining amongst 
 ourselves is not solving anything. Brian said Strength in Numbers.  Ok, 
 well,  I see that and I do not dismiss that.  I support that, actually. But 
 who is acting?  I understand that schedules prevent Council Meeting 
 attendance.  Ask yourself if attendance at a Council meeting is even 
 necessary?  Do you have a pen and a piece of paper?  Do you have access to 
 e-mail?  Do you have access to a telephone?  Do you go out in public and meet 
 people face-to-face?  My point is that complaining here is only relieving the 
 momentary stress, it's not accomplishing anything.  Example:  A close friend 
 complained to me via another media during the winter regarding the lot behind 
 The Empress.  I sent an e-mail to the Mayor voicing my friend's concern as 
 well as my own.  I received a reply within one business day explaining that 
 the eyesores were being dealt with.  I gave it some time and I followed up, 
 again via e-mail.  I received a reply that Deputy Mayor Lofferdo was assigned 
 to address the issue with that particular lot.  I gave it more time... and 
 yep, I asked again.  I was once again told that it was being addressed.  I 
 got fed up and I called code enforcement and stated that I was making a 
 Formal Complaint.  Shortly thereafter, our friend Maureen Nevin reported 
 via http://www.asburyradio.com that the City had entered into an agreement 
 with iStar to lease that lot (as well as others) back and make them in to 
 parking.  Maybe I had NOTHING to do with it.  Maybe I did.  You won't know 
 what difference you might make if you do not try!!  And, by he way, iStar had 
 a guy in that lot behind Them Empress with a weed whacker on Monday... 
 clearing all the weeds around all of the crap.  Why would they pay for that 
 if nothing is going to happen?
 
 [...@jack - sorry for the long dissertation in your section, it's just 
 where 'it fit.']
 
 Food for thought.
 
 Remember, I don't live in Asbury Park.  I do care though and I hate to see 
 people complaining and not acting.  I'm trying!  I, like you, need to read 
 asburyradio.com to see what Bill Grey thinks that he can get out of us (well, 
 you!)
 
 I'll help!  :-)
 
 Glenn
 
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon sharon_b283@ wrote:
 
  Hinge,
  It's a good argument for decal parking for residents only.
  It will prevent residents from being ticketed, towed, etc.  Signs
  can be erected in residential 

[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-12 Thread Sharon
Took the words outta my mouth!  I don't think, I KNOW he harassed
the sh*T out of a good person, minding HIS business, but he thought he
Gray, could do as he pleased by playing a sick joke on a tax-paying resident, 
because he personally didn't like him!  Yeah, I GET it alright!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawpr...@... wrote:

 All,
 
 I have taken some time to read Maureen Nevin's notes 
 (http://www.asburyradio.com) and I would like to call attention to a few in 
 particular as well as to express a wonder that I personally have:
 
 In William Gray's $1 million dollar suit against your City, he claims (quoted 
 from asburyradio.com): Under Description of Injury, the claim cites 
 emotional trauma, mental and psychiatric stress, anxiety and depression 
 together with aggravation and exacerbation of pre-existing stress... and 
 similar complaints arising from the workplace and suffered by Claimant, 
 William Gray.
 
 Aside from the word Workplace, I would wonder if the Monmouth County 
 Prosecutors office would be able to argue that this is nothing but the SAME 
 things which William Gray afflicted upon your fellow resident Werner T. 
 Baumgartner (and quite possibly others.)
 
 Think about that.
 
 Werner got JAIL (multiple times!), Werner got FINED... Mr. Gray should get a 
 MILLION DOLLARS in compensations for THE SAME THING THAT HE DID TO SOMEONE 
 ELSE?
 
 Think about that.
 
 And here is my Wonder:  I wonder if the reason that all I hear is 
 complaints and nothing about action on this group is because the residents of 
 Asbury Park (on this group) saw it happen to Werner (and quite possibly 
 others) and they are afraid that the same thing may happen to themselves.  I 
 wonder.
 
 William Gray had stress, depression, anxiety, trauma?  Is that not the SAME 
 thing that HE inflicted upon every owner of a sidewalk crack, a sandwich 
 board, a table too close to the edge of the walkway?  Never mind what he did 
 to Werner.
 
 He should get a nice hefty fine (IMHO), not an award for his pain and 
 suffering.  Hey!  Maybe even JAIL TIME!
 
 The Residents of the City of Asbury Park, NJ need to step up and speak for 
 themselves. I believed that corruption had left the City, this recent 
 development makes me wonder.
 
 Comments?
 
 Glenn






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[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-11 Thread maubddny

I feel your pain.  I also live one block up and experience the same problems as 
you.  They need to issue resident parking permits!  

 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hing...@... wrote:

 I live 1 block from the Stone Pony. Unfortunately, because our city doesn't 
 understand the difference between residential parking and event parking, I 
 can't find a parking space. Even worse, whenever there's a big event at the 
 Stony Pony Summer Stage, my neighborhood becomes a place to piss and vomit 
 in. Why? Because it's better to park for free then pay. Meanwhile, APPD are 
 busy showing people how to use the absurdly lame meters, on our money. Does 
 anybody see anything wrong with this picture?. I live here year round, and I 
 have to schedule my trips to anything, such as grocery shopping, around 
 boardwalk events. And boardwalk employees are also using my neighborhood. 
 Every night, they take up every single parking space in my neighborhood, 
 because there's no parking for them. WTF?







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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-11 Thread brian watkins
i would gladly trade you guys the vommit, piss, and parking for the 3 dope
slinging thugs who have made my street corner their new business office

or come school time, (i'm a block from the HS), i'll trade you ALL the kids
in the HS for your vommit/piss/parking situation, they apparently dont know
what sidewalks are, and like to use anyone's trash cans as dodgeballs, and
our yards as their garbage cans

i guess my point is we all deal with something, we live in a resort town,
there will NEVER be enough parking, never. Sure we can use these vacant
lots for parking, but how long with that last? Based on the crowd growth
over the last couple of years, probably not very long. Thats a reality, an
unfortunate one, but reality none the less. Look at any other established
beach town, and tell me who has enough parking. I lived in Belmar,
Manasquan, Ortley, and Long Branch and dealt with parking issues in each one
of them. When i lived in Belmar there were times i had to take a cab to my
car, how absurd is that?

I do agree with permit residential parking, especially for the first 4 or 5
blocks west of Kingsley. I've brought this up to a few city officials and
they seemed to like the idea, however, considering i live on the Northwest
side of town, and i may (or may not) be the only one who proposed this, it
may not go far. The more voices on it, the better probability of someone
taking action.

POWER IN NUMBERS!

On 11 August 2010 07:25, maubddny filecabinet...@aol.com wrote:




 I feel your pain. I also live one block up and experience the same problems
 as you. They need to issue resident parking permits!

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Hinge
 hing...@... wrote:
 
  I live 1 block from the Stone Pony. Unfortunately, because our city
 doesn't understand the difference between residential parking and event
 parking, I can't find a parking space. Even worse, whenever there's a big
 event at the Stony Pony Summer Stage, my neighborhood becomes a place to
 piss and vomit in. Why? Because it's better to park for free then pay.
 Meanwhile, APPD are busy showing people how to use the absurdly lame meters,
 on our money. Does anybody see anything wrong with this picture?. I live
 here year round, and I have to schedule my trips to anything, such as
 grocery shopping, around boardwalk events. And boardwalk employees are also
 using my neighborhood. Every night, they take up every single parking space
 in my neighborhood, because there's no parking for them. WTF?
 

  




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[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-11 Thread oakdorf

Failure or success?

1. While it mwould nice that everyone worked on the boardwalk lived in town and 
can walk to work safely 0 that's not the case. 
 - Since MOST of the time there's plenty of the room in the lots, MM or the 
employer should issue employee parking permits. That way the kids don't park on 
the west side of Kingsley vs paying %5.00 or $10 to park in the lot or the 
meters - monies money. However a few times I gave my kids money to park it - 
I'm sure they kept it and still parked down the road. Cheaper then paying a 
ticket (which reminds me) because the car is in my name - and while it parked 
legally it was ticketed...

2. I was in nyc the other day (drove in) - I drove around for 10 minutes and 
got lucky  - street parking midday

3. YOu can always try the no parking today and a cone trick. 

Ohe of the things people don't realize when they buy or rent a house - if there 
is room in the driveway. Most people then weren't so car dependent. Wives home, 
men work, kids were nice 

How come malls don't have parking meters? 

BUT - many of them do offer now valet parking and preferred parking.





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[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-11 Thread Hinge
If the city made a real effort to eliminate the construction yard behind the 
Empress and make that into a parking lot, that would solve part of the problem. 
Same goes for the Esperanza. 
Residential parking permits really need to be addressed.
The vomit and piss problem is ridiculous. I took my dog for a walk after 
Frampton the other night, and there were 2 huge piles of vomit right out front 
of my home. And the back area of the apt next to where I live sees a parade of 
people using it as a bathroom. People are sitting in their cars on Munroe, 
drinking up a storm, and drive by pissing behind that apt during every summer 
stage event.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, brian watkins cbrianwatk...@... wrote:

 i would gladly trade you guys the vommit, piss, and parking for the 3 dope
 slinging thugs who have made my street corner their new business office
 
 or come school time, (i'm a block from the HS), i'll trade you ALL the kids
 in the HS for your vommit/piss/parking situation, they apparently dont know
 what sidewalks are, and like to use anyone's trash cans as dodgeballs, and
 our yards as their garbage cans
 
 i guess my point is we all deal with something, we live in a resort town,
 there will NEVER be enough parking, never. Sure we can use these vacant
 lots for parking, but how long with that last? Based on the crowd growth
 over the last couple of years, probably not very long. Thats a reality, an
 unfortunate one, but reality none the less. Look at any other established
 beach town, and tell me who has enough parking. I lived in Belmar,
 Manasquan, Ortley, and Long Branch and dealt with parking issues in each one
 of them. When i lived in Belmar there were times i had to take a cab to my
 car, how absurd is that?
 
 I do agree with permit residential parking, especially for the first 4 or 5
 blocks west of Kingsley. I've brought this up to a few city officials and
 they seemed to like the idea, however, considering i live on the Northwest
 side of town, and i may (or may not) be the only one who proposed this, it
 may not go far. The more voices on it, the better probability of someone
 taking action.
 
 POWER IN NUMBERS!
 
 On 11 August 2010 07:25, maubddny filecabinet...@... wrote:
 
 
 
 
  I feel your pain. I also live one block up and experience the same problems
  as you. They need to issue resident parking permits!
 
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Hinge
  hinge98@ wrote:
  
   I live 1 block from the Stone Pony. Unfortunately, because our city
  doesn't understand the difference between residential parking and event
  parking, I can't find a parking space. Even worse, whenever there's a big
  event at the Stony Pony Summer Stage, my neighborhood becomes a place to
  piss and vomit in. Why? Because it's better to park for free then pay.
  Meanwhile, APPD are busy showing people how to use the absurdly lame meters,
  on our money. Does anybody see anything wrong with this picture?. I live
  here year round, and I have to schedule my trips to anything, such as
  grocery shopping, around boardwalk events. And boardwalk employees are also
  using my neighborhood. Every night, they take up every single parking space
  in my neighborhood, because there's no parking for them. WTF?
  
 
   
 
 
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-11 Thread dfsavgny


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hing...@... wrote:

 I live 1 block from the Stone Pony. Unfortunately, because our city doesn't 
 understand the difference between residential parking and event parking, I 
 can't find a parking space. Even worse, whenever there's a big event at the 
 Stony Pony Summer Stage, my neighborhood becomes a place to piss and vomit 
 in. Why? Because it's better to park for free then pay. Meanwhile, APPD are 
 busy showing people how to use the absurdly lame meters, on our money. Does 
 anybody see anything wrong with this picture?. I live here year round, and I 
 have to schedule my trips to anything, such as grocery shopping, around 
 boardwalk events. And boardwalk employees are also using my neighborhood. 
 Every night, they take up every single parking space in my neighborhood, 
 because there's no parking for them. WTF?


You want to have paid parking in front of your house? Which is why when I 
looked for a house in AP I made sure I had plenty of off-street parking. My 
wife thought I was nuts but I knew one day it would be at a premium. Anyone two 
blocks from the beach will have a hard time parking during the summer.

A solution could be to have resident parking only in some areas with stickers.





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[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-11 Thread Sharon
Hinge,
It's a good argument for decal parking for residents only.
It will prevent residents from being ticketed, towed, etc.  Signs
can be erected in residential parking, designating the spaces for
residents living on a particular block.  Numbered spaces can be designated 
for addresses, etc.  Well, it's a suggestion, anyway.
So much for doing the right thing!  On the block where I live,
if you park on the wrong side of the street, on a particular day,
you're guaranteed a ticket!  Sewall Ave., Bond St., Monroe Ave.,
Emory Sts., have alternate side of the street parking.  I see tickets
on windshields, all the time!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hing...@... wrote:

 I live 1 block from the Stone Pony. Unfortunately, because our city doesn't 
 understand the difference between residential parking and event parking, I 
 can't find a parking space. Even worse, whenever there's a big event at the 
 Stony Pony Summer Stage, my neighborhood becomes a place to piss and vomit 
 in. Why? Because it's better to park for free then pay. Meanwhile, APPD are 
 busy showing people how to use the absurdly lame meters, on our money. Does 
 anybody see anything wrong with this picture?. I live here year round, and I 
 have to schedule my trips to anything, such as grocery shopping, around 
 boardwalk events. And boardwalk employees are also using my neighborhood. 
 Every night, they take up every single parking space in my neighborhood, 
 because there's no parking for them. WTF?







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[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-11 Thread dapawprint
All,

Possibly none of you noticed, but I recently left the group due to aggravation 
of the usual complaining with lack of action.  I have joined again and feel 
like I am absolutely crazy replying to this thread.  However, I shall reply.

@Sharon: Alternate side of the street parking is a rule.  Those of us with good 
parents should know how rules work.  If I lived by you and I forgot and 
received a ticket.. well, that is My bad.

@Oak:  Excellent Point!!  Even on the busiest nights, and I was there for 
Gaslight Anthem AND Frampton, the lot by the Carousel House was not fully 
used.  iStar and Madison Marquette should cone-off the far side of the lot 
for Parking of THEIR employees... and they should do the same in their other 
lots.  If not free, for a fraction of the cost of City Parking.

@Hinge:  I like the resident parking sticker idea, but it still will not 
guarantee a parking spot, just the lack of a ticket.  It will not help your 
ability to come and go.  Resident Parking Spaces in conjunction with Resident 
Parking Stickers works. Residents with stickers should be able to request 
towing at the vehicle owners expense.  The lot behind The Empress, by the way, 
is one of the reasons that I got fed up with this group and left.  And it has a 
LOT to do with one of Brian's comments to this tread.  This thread ALSO has to 
do with my aggravation.  Let me explain.  Complaining amongst ourselves is not 
solving anything. Brian said Strength in Numbers.  Ok, well,  I see that and 
I do not dismiss that.  I support that, actually. But who is acting?  I 
understand that schedules prevent Council Meeting attendance.  Ask yourself if 
attendance at a Council meeting is even necessary?  Do you have a pen and a 
piece of paper?  Do you have access to e-mail?  Do you have access to a 
telephone?  Do you go out in public and meet people face-to-face?  My point is 
that complaining here is only relieving the momentary stress, it's not 
accomplishing anything.  Example:  A close friend complained to me via another 
media during the winter regarding the lot behind The Empress.  I sent an e-mail 
to the Mayor voicing my friend's concern as well as my own.  I received a reply 
within one business day explaining that the eyesores were being dealt with.  
I gave it some time and I followed up, again via e-mail.  I received a reply 
that Deputy Mayor Lofferdo was assigned to address the issue with that 
particular lot.  I gave it more time... and yep, I asked again.  I was once 
again told that it was being addressed.  I got fed up and I called code 
enforcement and stated that I was making a Formal Complaint.  Shortly 
thereafter, our friend Maureen Nevin reported via http://www.asburyradio.com 
that the City had entered into an agreement with iStar to lease that lot (as 
well as others) back and make them in to parking.  Maybe I had NOTHING to do 
with it.  Maybe I did.  You won't know what difference you might make if you do 
not try!!  And, by he way, iStar had a guy in that lot behind Them Empress with 
a weed whacker on Monday... clearing all the weeds around all of the crap.  Why 
would they pay for that if nothing is going to happen?

[...@jack - sorry for the long dissertation in your section, it's just where 
'it fit.']

Food for thought.

Remember, I don't live in Asbury Park.  I do care though and I hate to see 
people complaining and not acting.  I'm trying!  I, like you, need to read 
asburyradio.com to see what Bill Grey thinks that he can get out of us (well, 
you!)

I'll help!  :-)

Glenn



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon sharon_b...@... wrote:

 Hinge,
 It's a good argument for decal parking for residents only.
 It will prevent residents from being ticketed, towed, etc.  Signs
 can be erected in residential parking, designating the spaces for
 residents living on a particular block.  Numbered spaces can be designated 
 for addresses, etc.  Well, it's a suggestion, anyway.
 So much for doing the right thing!  On the block where I live,
 if you park on the wrong side of the street, on a particular day,
 you're guaranteed a ticket!  Sewall Ave., Bond St., Monroe Ave.,
 Emory Sts., have alternate side of the street parking.  I see tickets
 on windshields, all the time!
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote:
 
  I live 1 block from the Stone Pony. Unfortunately, because our city doesn't 
  understand the difference between residential parking and event parking, I 
  can't find a parking space. Even worse, whenever there's a big event at the 
  Stony Pony Summer Stage, my neighborhood becomes a place to piss and vomit 
  in. Why? Because it's better to park for free then pay. Meanwhile, APPD are 
  busy showing people how to use the absurdly lame meters, on our money. Does 
  anybody see anything wrong with this picture?. I live here year round, and 
  I have to schedule my trips to anything, such as grocery shopping, around 
  boardwalk events. And boardwalk employees are 

[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-11 Thread oakdorf
well maybe no one at the city glances over here on the gripe board. Maybe the 
do. Maybe someone forwards the messages over...maybe not.

Maybe everyone is busy,

Maybe someone heard me gripe for months about eh blinking light at Kinglsey, 
Cookman and AP Ave...

Man was i pissed the last couple days around 11 am after drop my kid off to 
work.

The light was working, And there I sat, Stopped. Waiting for it to turn green - 
while I was the only one there. The RED LIGHT was getting bigger each second - 
and I thought to myself - WHY did I complain?

Luckily, it really wasn't that long - but I thought - maybe it will never turn 
green - because of me.

Glad to see it fixed. Just have to remember - east on 1st, drop off the kid, 
west on Asbury, right on red at Kingsley. 

So used to the old way - when it was one way.

Sometimes CHANGE IS GOOD.







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[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-11 Thread dapawprint
I hear ya.  A friend got ticketed there over the weekend.  It's either roulette 
or pain.  Personally, I sat there staring at the big red light... people still 
run it!  

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote:

 well maybe no one at the city glances over here on the gripe board. Maybe the 
 do. Maybe someone forwards the messages over...maybe not.
 
 Maybe everyone is busy,
 
 Maybe someone heard me gripe for months about eh blinking light at Kinglsey, 
 Cookman and AP Ave...
 
 Man was i pissed the last couple days around 11 am after drop my kid off to 
 work.
 
 The light was working, And there I sat, Stopped. Waiting for it to turn green 
 - while I was the only one there. The RED LIGHT was getting bigger each 
 second - and I thought to myself - WHY did I complain?
 
 Luckily, it really wasn't that long - but I thought - maybe it will never 
 turn green - because of me.
 
 Glad to see it fixed. Just have to remember - east on 1st, drop off the kid, 
 west on Asbury, right on red at Kingsley. 
 
 So used to the old way - when it was one way.
 
 Sometimes CHANGE IS GOOD.







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[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-11 Thread dapawprint
All,

I have taken some time to read Maureen Nevin's notes 
(http://www.asburyradio.com) and I would like to call attention to a few in 
particular as well as to express a wonder that I personally have:

In William Gray's $1 million dollar suit against your City, he claims (quoted 
from asburyradio.com): Under Description of Injury, the claim cites 
emotional trauma, mental and psychiatric stress, anxiety and depression 
together with aggravation and exacerbation of pre-existing stress... and 
similar complaints arising from the workplace and suffered by Claimant, William 
Gray.

Aside from the word Workplace, I would wonder if the Monmouth County 
Prosecutors office would be able to argue that this is nothing but the SAME 
things which William Gray afflicted upon your fellow resident Werner T. 
Baumgartner (and quite possibly others.)

Think about that.

Werner got JAIL (multiple times!), Werner got FINED... Mr. Gray should get a 
MILLION DOLLARS in compensations for THE SAME THING THAT HE DID TO SOMEONE ELSE?

Think about that.

And here is my Wonder:  I wonder if the reason that all I hear is complaints 
and nothing about action on this group is because the residents of Asbury Park 
(on this group) saw it happen to Werner (and quite possibly others) and they 
are afraid that the same thing may happen to themselves.  I wonder.

William Gray had stress, depression, anxiety, trauma?  Is that not the SAME 
thing that HE inflicted upon every owner of a sidewalk crack, a sandwich board, 
a table too close to the edge of the walkway?  Never mind what he did to Werner.

He should get a nice hefty fine (IMHO), not an award for his pain and 
suffering.  Hey!  Maybe even JAIL TIME!

The Residents of the City of Asbury Park, NJ need to step up and speak for 
themselves. I believed that corruption had left the City, this recent 
development makes me wonder.

Comments?

Glenn

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawpr...@... wrote:

 All,
 
 Possibly none of you noticed, but I recently left the group due to 
 aggravation of the usual complaining with lack of action.  I have joined 
 again and feel like I am absolutely crazy replying to this thread.  However, 
 I shall reply.
 
 @Sharon: Alternate side of the street parking is a rule.  Those of us with 
 good parents should know how rules work.  If I lived by you and I forgot 
 and received a ticket.. well, that is My bad.
 
 @Oak:  Excellent Point!!  Even on the busiest nights, and I was there for 
 Gaslight Anthem AND Frampton, the lot by the Carousel House was not fully 
 used.  iStar and Madison Marquette should cone-off the far side of the lot 
 for Parking of THEIR employees... and they should do the same in their other 
 lots.  If not free, for a fraction of the cost of City Parking.
 
 @Hinge:  I like the resident parking sticker idea, but it still will not 
 guarantee a parking spot, just the lack of a ticket.  It will not help your 
 ability to come and go.  Resident Parking Spaces in conjunction with Resident 
 Parking Stickers works. Residents with stickers should be able to request 
 towing at the vehicle owners expense.  The lot behind The Empress, by the 
 way, is one of the reasons that I got fed up with this group and left.  And 
 it has a LOT to do with one of Brian's comments to this tread.  This thread 
 ALSO has to do with my aggravation.  Let me explain.  Complaining amongst 
 ourselves is not solving anything. Brian said Strength in Numbers.  Ok, 
 well,  I see that and I do not dismiss that.  I support that, actually. But 
 who is acting?  I understand that schedules prevent Council Meeting 
 attendance.  Ask yourself if attendance at a Council meeting is even 
 necessary?  Do you have a pen and a piece of paper?  Do you have access to 
 e-mail?  Do you have access to a telephone?  Do you go out in public and meet 
 people face-to-face?  My point is that complaining here is only relieving the 
 momentary stress, it's not accomplishing anything.  Example:  A close friend 
 complained to me via another media during the winter regarding the lot behind 
 The Empress.  I sent an e-mail to the Mayor voicing my friend's concern as 
 well as my own.  I received a reply within one business day explaining that 
 the eyesores were being dealt with.  I gave it some time and I followed up, 
 again via e-mail.  I received a reply that Deputy Mayor Lofferdo was assigned 
 to address the issue with that particular lot.  I gave it more time... and 
 yep, I asked again.  I was once again told that it was being addressed.  I 
 got fed up and I called code enforcement and stated that I was making a 
 Formal Complaint.  Shortly thereafter, our friend Maureen Nevin reported 
 via http://www.asburyradio.com that the City had entered into an agreement 
 with iStar to lease that lot (as well as others) back and make them in to 
 parking.  Maybe I had NOTHING to do with it.  Maybe I did.  You won't know 
 what difference you might make if you do not try!!  

[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-11 Thread oakdorf
The job of a code enforcement officer is to enforce code violations. If he 
didn't address those concerns - like cracked sidewalks etc - someone might wind 
up suing the homeowner, city and - maybe even the code enforcement officer - or 
they would just complain on this board that no one is doing their job

I think I'd take that on once or twice a week. 

Hopefully, you can't sue for job related stress. Next you now it, everyone will 
be stressed out at work and calling up their lawyer.

If your boss asks you to do something - can that cause strees? 

So the insurance will continue to rise - for everyone.

There's probably a few million people out of work by no choice of their own who 
WISH they were stressed out AT WORK - vs in a home they overpaid for.

I don't no about this situation - but there must be some case - otherwise do 
you think a lawyer would take this on?







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[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-11 Thread dapawprint
I certainly hope that no lawyer would.  Why hasn't anyone sued Metro Homes?  I 
fell over there last week, should I sue? Why has code enforcement not enforced 
THAT?  Not making arguements, just asking.

Or, making a point.

 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote:

 The job of a code enforcement officer is to enforce code violations. If he 
 didn't address those concerns - like cracked sidewalks etc - someone might 
 wind up suing the homeowner, city and - maybe even the code enforcement 
 officer - or they would just complain on this board that no one is doing 
 their job
 
 I think I'd take that on once or twice a week. 
 
 Hopefully, you can't sue for job related stress. Next you now it, everyone 
 will be stressed out at work and calling up their lawyer.
 
 If your boss asks you to do something - can that cause strees? 
 
 So the insurance will continue to rise - for everyone.
 
 There's probably a few million people out of work by no choice of their own 
 who WISH they were stressed out AT WORK - vs in a home they overpaid for.
 
 I don't no about this situation - but there must be some case - otherwise 
 do you think a lawyer would take this on?







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[AsburyPark] Re: The failure of AP paid parking

2010-08-11 Thread Hinge
No, I want a sign, and a sticker, that designates parking in my neighborhood as 
residential. When I lived in Edgewater, NJ, that's exactly what we had, and it 
was free. Surely the City makes enough money off of fines paid for parking to 
afford this. It's absurd that I have to park blocks away from my home during 
Stone Pony Summer Stage events, while there's plenty of empty spaces in the 
paid lots and spaces. Even worse, I have to dodge vomit the morning after. And 
what is nobody talking about? The car break-in's on Munroe Ave during these 
events. Want proof? Head over to Munroe, between AP Ave and 1st, and check out 
the broken glass. If I'm lucky, that's where I get to park. And I don't want 
to, because there is zero lighting, and the GPS thieves know this. 
Duh...There's also zero lighting in Library Square Park. It's  all burnt out, 
and people have no idea about the amount of crap taking place there every 
single night. Boardwalk prosperity is great, but for much of the city, nothing 
has changed. We pay PD to stand in front of crappy parking meters. Explain that 
away...

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote:
 
  I live 1 block from the Stone Pony. Unfortunately, because our city doesn't 
  understand the difference between residential parking and event parking, I 
  can't find a parking space. Even worse, whenever there's a big event at the 
  Stony Pony Summer Stage, my neighborhood becomes a place to piss and vomit 
  in. Why? Because it's better to park for free then pay. Meanwhile, APPD are 
  busy showing people how to use the absurdly lame meters, on our money. Does 
  anybody see anything wrong with this picture?. I live here year round, and 
  I have to schedule my trips to anything, such as grocery shopping, around 
  boardwalk events. And boardwalk employees are also using my neighborhood. 
  Every night, they take up every single parking space in my neighborhood, 
  because there's no parking for them. WTF?
 
 
 You want to have paid parking in front of your house? Which is why when I 
 looked for a house in AP I made sure I had plenty of off-street parking. My 
 wife thought I was nuts but I knew one day it would be at a premium. Anyone 
 two blocks from the beach will have a hard time parking during the summer.
 
 A solution could be to have resident parking only in some areas with stickers.







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