[AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter
T-Dube, Your post below, more accurately the points you make, is the only thing wrong with AP. That dead-hand control, refuse to look forward, no progress, visionless, over-romanticized, Nostalgia-Nazi view that we have to return to a fictionalized past that never was instead of moving to a bright future we could have, is the only thing wrong with AP. Your literarly use of slowly morphing the Pony into all that is the rest of Asbury Park is the template, often used by others, that reveals Asbury is filled with Springsteen fanatics posing as people who pretend to know the rest of the City. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't agree more, the pony in it's current state doesn't matter. Same as convention hall, the paramount, the southside structures that includes the casino, power plant and carousel matter even less. The Hojo's building and the pryor ampi-theater...don't matter. fast lane, baronet, bowling alley...don't matter. All that really matters in Asbury Park is what the current king deems meritous. High rise condos, maximum return on investment dollars, or non-investment dollars. Take the don't matter to the next level. All the poor unfortunates living East of Bergh, east of Grand, maybe east of main, don't matter either. Move the poor people out and move the nice people in. Amazing, unless of course you live in Asbury Park, maybe grew up in Asbury Park, maybe did summers in Asbury Park. Then those things matter, big time. Yes, it is 100% true that very little of the history and even fewer of the people who comprised that history matter today in Asbury Park. All that history and all those people will one day, be history. Forgotten by time and left behind in the brave new world that someone decided should be Asbury Park in the 21st century. Unless of course someone with vision and guts and the ability to lead shows up and sets things right. Someone who respects the city, past and present, someone with regard for the past embracing the future. A knight in shining armor who rides down Cookman, takes a loop around the old circuit, takes a look at all that still is Asbury Park and decides that every brick and shingle, and every decent resident of Asbury Park not only deserves a voice in the future of Asbury Park, but a piece of the action. As for the pony, it stopped mattering the day that Asbury Partners bought it in one more back room deal that made absolutely zero sense. The pony only matters to non-asbury residents, who crave a piece of Asbury's past, at least as far back as 1973 when the first Springsteen albums hit the streets. Those tourist come into Asbury looking to recapture a little of the glory but witness only decay and degradation and if they are lucky, a place to get a cold beer. Alas, getting a cold beer in Asbury Park is hit or miss. More often than not, what few watering holes still in operation are usually closed during the day. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter
Sorry BB, you lose. Under the international messageboard agreement created in 1990 known as Godwin's Law, whenever someone brings up Hitler or Nazis in an argument unrelated to WWII, the thread is over, and the person who caused the Violator to invoke Godwin's Law is declared the winner. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Congratulations, Traderdube! Very good post, by the way. Next topic... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: T-Dube, Your post below, more accurately the points you make, is the only thing wrong with AP. That dead-hand control, refuse to look forward, no progress, visionless, over-romanticized, Nostalgia- Nazi view that we have to return to a fictionalized past that never was instead of moving to a bright future we could have, is the only thing wrong with AP. Your literarly use of slowly morphing the Pony into all that is the rest of Asbury Park is the template, often used by others, that reveals Asbury is filled with Springsteen fanatics posing as people who pretend to know the rest of the City. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter -- Godwin's Law
Would Godwin's Law still apply if Tommy were in fact a Nazi? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry BB, you lose. Under the international messageboard agreement created in 1990 known as Godwin's Law, whenever someone brings up Hitler or Nazis in an argument unrelated to WWII, the thread is over, and the person who caused the Violator to invoke Godwin's Law is declared the winner. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Congratulations, Traderdube! Very good post, by the way. Next topic... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: T-Dube, Your post below, more accurately the points you make, is the only thing wrong with AP. That dead-hand control, refuse to look forward, no progress, visionless, over-romanticized, Nostalgia- Nazi view that we have to return to a fictionalized past that never was instead of moving to a bright future we could have, is the only thing wrong with AP. Your literarly use of slowly morphing the Pony into all that is the rest of Asbury Park is the template, often used by others, that reveals Asbury is filled with Springsteen fanatics posing as people who pretend to know the rest of the City. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter
Nice work JJ99! Some people just don't know when to shut up, even after they are warned how offensive their crude speak might be to others. You'd think otherwise based on their station and education. - Original Message - From: jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 2:55 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter Sorry BB, you lose. Under the international messageboard agreement created in 1990 known as Godwin's Law, whenever someone brings up Hitler or Nazis in an argument unrelated to WWII, the thread is over, and the person who caused the Violator to invoke Godwin's Law is declared the winner. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Congratulations, Traderdube! Very good post, by the way. Next topic... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: T-Dube, Your post below, more accurately the points you make, is the only thing wrong with AP. That dead-hand control, refuse to look forward, no progress, visionless, over-romanticized, Nostalgia- Nazi view that we have to return to a fictionalized past that never was instead of moving to a bright future we could have, is the only thing wrong with AP. Your literarly use of slowly morphing the Pony into all that is the rest of Asbury Park is the template, often used by others, that reveals Asbury is filled with Springsteen fanatics posing as people who pretend to know the rest of the City. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter
Hey guys, walk softly; Tommy has a low threshold for criticism. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, David J. Mieras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice work JJ99! Some people just don't know when to shut up, even after they are warned how offensive their crude speak might be to others. You'd think otherwise based on their station and education. - Original Message - From: jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 2:55 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter Sorry BB, you lose. Under the international messageboard agreement created in 1990 known as Godwin's Law, whenever someone brings up Hitler or Nazis in an argument unrelated to WWII, the thread is over, and the person who caused the Violator to invoke Godwin's Law is declared the winner. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Congratulations, Traderdube! Very good post, by the way. Next topic... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: T-Dube, Your post below, more accurately the points you make, is the only thing wrong with AP. That dead-hand control, refuse to look forward, no progress, visionless, over-romanticized, Nostalgia- Nazi view that we have to return to a fictionalized past that never was instead of moving to a bright future we could have, is the only thing wrong with AP. Your literarly use of slowly morphing the Pony into all that is the rest of Asbury Park is the template, often used by others, that reveals Asbury is filled with Springsteen fanatics posing as people who pretend to know the rest of the City. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter
Nostalgia-Nazi, like a feminazi, is not a Nazi as some of you are thinking of the term. My apologies to anyone who believed to the contrary and was offended. Dead Hand Control for Skip's info, is a legal term, long recognized in jurisprudence dating back to common law that pre-dates the USA. It is in reference to people setting up conditions that will govern others long after they are gone. James Bradley was masterful at it. I don't see why it is insulting. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry BB, you lose. Under the international messageboard agreement created in 1990 known as Godwin's Law, whenever someone brings up Hitler or Nazis in an argument unrelated to WWII, the thread is over, and the person who caused the Violator to invoke Godwin's Law is declared the winner. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Congratulations, Traderdube! Very good post, by the way. Next topic... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: T-Dube, Your post below, more accurately the points you make, is the only thing wrong with AP. That dead-hand control, refuse to look forward, no progress, visionless, over-romanticized, Nostalgia- Nazi view that we have to return to a fictionalized past that never was instead of moving to a bright future we could have, is the only thing wrong with AP. Your literarly use of slowly morphing the Pony into all that is the rest of Asbury Park is the template, often used by others, that reveals Asbury is filled with Springsteen fanatics posing as people who pretend to know the rest of the City. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter see why it is insulting.
`Nostalgia-Nazi is not a Nazi Dead Hand Control is a legal term, in reference to people setting up conditions that will govern others long after they are gone.' Nazis and other things that go bump in the night; wouldn't Dead Hand Control be the sort of legislation your fearless leader, commander in chief George Bush proposes as law of the land, after the republicans are thrown out of office? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nostalgia-Nazi, like a feminazi, is not a Nazi as some of you are thinking of the term. My apologies to anyone who believed to the contrary and was offended. Dead Hand Control for Skip's info, is a legal term, long recognized in jurisprudence dating back to common law that pre-dates the USA. It is in reference to people setting up conditions that will govern others long after they are gone. James Bradley was masterful at it. I don't see why it is insulting. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry BB, you lose. Under the international messageboard agreement created in 1990 known as Godwin's Law, whenever someone brings up Hitler or Nazis in an argument unrelated to WWII, the thread is over, and the person who caused the Violator to invoke Godwin's Law is declared the winner. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Congratulations, Traderdube! Very good post, by the way. Next topic... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: T-Dube, Your post below, more accurately the points you make, is the only thing wrong with AP. That dead-hand control, refuse to look forward, no progress, visionless, over-romanticized, Nostalgia- Nazi view that we have to return to a fictionalized past that never was instead of moving to a bright future we could have, is the only thing wrong with AP. Your literarly use of slowly morphing the Pony into all that is the rest of Asbury Park is the template, often used by others, that reveals Asbury is filled with Springsteen fanatics posing as people who pretend to know the rest of the City. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: the pony doesn't matter see why it is insulting.
wouldn't Dead Hand Control be the sort of legislation your fearless leader, commander in chief George Bush proposes as law of the land, after the republicans are thrown out of office? The usual example of Dead Hand Control is a deed restriction, like Bradley writing into many deeds that if the property was ever used to sell liquor it would revert back to his heirs. While I do love the Stone Pony, Bradley certainly would have hated it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
