Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

2006-05-07 Thread Allan Peterson



Sorry but if it worked that way we could all make tons of money. I would list my house here for 1 million beceause eventually that would be the worth? While I do not agree with taking of property, the value should be based on today's worth. Not 5 years from now etc. traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  "Fred", you know rat holes don't you, rats and skunks.what she wants is only known to her, what she deserves is a whole different thing.and what she deserves, as the 1st taxpayer being subjected to eminent domain in APis precisely what this is all about. She deserves her fair slice of the pie. If the property is eventually worth multi millions of dollarswhy should she get hundreds of thousands? But the money is none of our business, what is our business is whether the
 citycouncil of asbury park upholds their oath of allegiance to their constituency and protects their taxpayers from the greedy, bottom feeders who want to pay pennies on the dollar for properties that will make them many many many millions of dollars. And it makes zero difference if the taxpayer has been there 20 years or twenty days, as Keady said, they all need to be treated fairly and most of all they all need to receive the same due process.But that is something that just isn't understandable to those who sleep with the rats and the skunks, their greed overwhelms them and they treat everyone the same; as marks in a sting.Fred wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   So it's her lawyers fault not the councils she should sue him. I doubt very much that she didn't know what was going on. Your telling me her lawyer had this
 since 2004 and he didn't say a word? Are you that gullable? I wonder why the city hasn't lost a lawsuit. Isn't Fernicola her Lawyer? Two weeks wouldn't have made a difference Rita won't settle. Didn't Maureen post that Rita's taking this to the end? She's wants $ 500,000 for that rat hole. After posting this morning I had a delicious piece of blueberry marble  cake at The Kingsley Deli. Sure enough, Rita's lawyer did receive the  offers via certified mail that Aaron said were sent. I do not think that  changes for one thing about what I wrote earlier. If a taxpayer stands  in front of the council and makes a statement, they should have not only  listened they should have acted accordingly. Nothing about the  redevelopment project would have changed if two weeks from now, the
 same  vote they took weds was taken at the next meeting. In fact, what might  change would be the plight of a taxpayer and the one person who stood up  to the blight by showing up for work everyday. No one looked at C8 over  the years more than Rita. Everyone else left. The council should have  postponed the vote and similar to what they did and hopefully are doing  for Christina's Aunt, looked into whether or not a fair offer was made  Rita, and the chance to sit at the table and negotiate a fair deal for  her property.  SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home  http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Asbury+park+homew1=Asbury+park+homew2=Asbury+park+njw3=Asbury+park+hotelw4=Asbury+park+foreclosurew5=Asbury+park+real+estatew6=Asbury+parkc=6s=140.sig=0vxkxu1RDrB64nxKV8lpRQ   Asbury park nj  http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Asbury+park+njw1=Asbury+park+homew2=Asbury+park+njw3=Asbury+park+hotelw4=Asbury+park+foreclosurew5=Asbury+park+real+estatew6=Asbury+parkc=6s=140.sig=ObXN4NSxwdBhLBP_8hz6eQ   Asbury park hotel  http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Asbury+park+hotelw1=Asbury+park+homew2=Asbury+park+njw3=Asbury+park+hotelw4=Asbury+park+foreclosurew5=Asbury+park+real+estatew6=Asbury+parkc=6s=140.sig=KL-jtA1nQNVX9sKM5-E8sg  Asbury park foreclosure  http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Asbury+park+foreclosurew1=Asbury+park+homew2=Asbury+park+njw3=Asbury+park+hotelw4=Asbury+park+foreclosurew5=Asbury+park+real+estatew6=Asbury+parkc=6s=140.sig=aYPrqh5nE_Mo0Q80VMt5sQ   Asbury park real estate  http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Asbury+park+real+estatew1=Asbury+park+homew2=Asbury+park+njw3=Asbury+park+hotelw4=Asbury+park+foreclosurew5=Asbury+park+real+estatew6=Asbury+parkc=6s=140.sig=XnfneXry_jezEvhnMpZyCQ   Asbury park  http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Asbury+parkw1=Asbury+park+homew2=Asbury+park+njw3=Asbury+park+hotelw4=Asbury+park+foreclosurew5=Asbury+park+real+estatew6=Asbury+parkc=6s=140.sig=UeZAmVekwGDPJlXM2nJvNQ   YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "AsburyPark http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark" on the web.  *
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

2006-05-07 Thread traderdube
what about the business?
Or did Warner already answer that?
 The Deli should be the LAST property taken not the FIRST.

Which begs the question as to why?
Why act so quickly and HARSHLY on the deli?
Will every Asbury Park taxpayer's property and business be dealt with 
just as harshly?
That is the question Councilman Keady asked that his fellow elected 
officials refused to address.
When Mr. Keady cited an obvious flaw in Asbury's eminent domain 
procedures, confirmed in later public discussion, he was shouted down.
Harshly.

Is harshly a word?


Allan Peterson wrote:

 Sorry but if it worked that way we could all make tons of money.  I 
 would list my house here for 1 million beceause eventually that would 
 be the worth?  While I do not agree with taking of property, the value 
 should be based on today's worth.  Not 5 years from now etc. 

 */traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

 Fred, you  know rat holes don't you, rats and skunks.
 what she wants is only known to her, what she deserves is a whole
 different thing.
 and what she deserves, as the 1st taxpayer being subjected to eminent
 domain in AP
 is precisely what this is all about. She deserves her fair slice
 of the
 pie. If the property is eventually worth multi millions of dollars
 why should she get hundreds of thousands? But the money is none of
 our
 business, what is our business is whether the city
 council of asbury park upholds their oath of allegiance to their
 constituency and protects their taxpayers from the greedy, bottom
 feeders who want to pay pennies on the dollar for properties that
 will
 make them many many many millions of dollars. And it makes zero
 difference if the taxpayer has been there 20 years or twenty days, as
 Keady said, they all need to be treated fairly and most of all
 they all
 need to receive the same due process.
 But that is something that just isn't understandable to those who
 sleep
 with the rats and the skunks, their greed overwhelms them and they
 treat
 everyone the same; as marks in a sting.

 Fred wrote:

  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
  
  So it's her lawyers fault not the councils she should sue him. I
  doubt very much that she didn't know what was going on. Your telling
  me her lawyer had this since 2004 and he didn't say a word? Are you
  that gullable? I wonder why the city hasn't lost a lawsuit. Isn't
  Fernicola her Lawyer? Two weeks wouldn't have made a difference 
 Rita
  won't settle. Didn't Maureen post that Rita's taking this to the
 end?
  She's wants $ 500,000 for that rat hole.
 
 
 
  After posting this morning I had a delicious piece of blueberry
  marble
   cake at The Kingsley Deli. Sure enough, Rita's lawyer did receive
  the
   offers via certified mail that Aaron said were sent. I do not
 think
  that
   changes for one thing about  what I wrote earlier. If a taxpayer
  stands
   in front of the council and makes a statement, they should
 have not
  only
   listened they should have acted accordingly. Nothing about the
   redevelopment project would have changed if two weeks from
 now, the
  same
   vote they took weds was taken at the next meeting. In fact, what
  might
   change would be the plight of a taxpayer and the one person who
  stood up
   to the blight by showing up for work everyday. No one looked at C8
  over
   the years more than Rita. Everyone else left. The council should
  have
   postponed the vote and similar to what they did and hopefully are
  doing
   for Christina's Aunt, looked into whether or not a fair offer was
  made
   Rita, and the chance to sit at the table and negotiate a fair deal
  for
   her property.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Re: you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

2006-05-06 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
So it's her lawyers fault not the councils she should sue him. I 
doubt very much that she didn't know what was going on. Your telling 
me her lawyer had this since 2004 and he didn't say a word? Are you 
that gullable? I wonder why the city hasn't lost a lawsuit. Isn't 
Fernicola her Lawyer? Two weeks wouldn't have made a difference  Rita 
won't settle. Didn't Maureen post that Rita's taking this to the end? 
She's wants $ 500,000 for that rat hole.



After posting this morning I had a delicious piece of blueberry 
marble 
 cake at The Kingsley Deli. Sure enough, Rita's lawyer did receive 
the 
 offers via certified mail that Aaron said were sent. I do not think 
that 
 changes for one thing about  what I wrote earlier. If a taxpayer 
stands 
 in front of the council and makes a statement, they should have not 
only 
 listened they should have acted accordingly. Nothing about the 
 redevelopment project would have changed if two weeks from now, the 
same 
 vote they took weds was taken at the next meeting. In fact, what 
might 
 change would be the plight of a taxpayer and the one person who 
stood up 
 to the blight by showing up for work everyday. No one looked at C8 
over 
 the years more than Rita. Everyone else left. The council should 
have 
 postponed the vote and similar to what they did and hopefully are 
doing 
 for Christina's Aunt, looked into whether or not a fair offer was 
made 
 Rita, and the chance to sit at the table and negotiate a fair deal 
for 
 her property.








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