[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-03 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... 
wrote:

 I never said alone Tommy Fox. I know women abuse power. I am one 
and
 have spent lots of time around them.  I don't wish to discuss abortion
 with you here. thats not why people come here.

They don't come here to discuss male abuse of power either but you 
brought it up. And yes you said mostly men abuse power over others, 
which is completely belied by the 45 million dead children.




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-03 Thread Jersey Shore John
Blastocytes are not children.

On Jan 3, 2009, at 8:31 AM, justifiedright wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre  
 gabrielleo...@...
 wrote:
 
  I never said alone Tommy Fox. I know women abuse power. I am one
 and
  have spent lots of time around them. I don't wish to discuss  
 abortion
  with you here. thats not why people come here.

 They don't come here to discuss male abuse of power either but you
 brought it up. And yes you said mostly men abuse power over others,
 which is completely belied by the 45 million dead children.


 



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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-03 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John 
jerseyshorej...@... wrote:

 Blastocytes are not children.

Human.




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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-02 Thread Gabrielle Obre
wow you guys are depressing. i think you need to lay off the bad news
for a while, or jump on some anti depressants. 

whenever I get depressed, I think up superheroes. or do some mantra
meditation. simply repeat something like healing, love and light or
thank you over and over. Love, Jesus, healing, gratitude. Ya know,
anything positive.

I am well aware of the ugliness that lurks in our government. It has
nothing to do with American government, it has to do with human
beings. We are terrified of death, think being better, richer, more
armed, smarter etc will save us. it won't. humans (mostly men) abuse
their power over others to prove...well all sorts of idiotic things.
and I am ashamed that a good chunk of my compatriots with ovaries
continue to sleep and procreate with these emotionally stunted runts
while they perfect indirect aggression, the female brutality.  

i recently heard a man dis darwin's survival of the fittest. Its
supposed to be survival of those who cooperate. 

there are good things happening in the world. whats that story about
the good and evil monster? the one that grows is the one you feed with
your attention? 




--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote:

 Be careful about doing anything about it.
  
 You might be Connellizedhttp://tinyurl.com/6vdjud 
  
 formerly known as Wellstoned:   http://tinyurl.com/7xrrro 
  
  
  
 In a message dated 1/1/2009 6:46:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
 jerseyshorej...@... writes:
 
 What  would you have me do  about it?
 
 On Jan 1, 2009, at 2:16 PM,  Gabrielle Obre wrote:
 
 so what are you gonna do about  it?
 In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore  John
 jerseyshorejohn@ wrote:
 
 Unless it's stolen.
 
 On  Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
 
 its not thanks to Bush.  Its thanks to We the  People.
 
 
 **New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making 
 headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026)
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-02 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre 
gabrielleo...@... wrote:

 humans (mostly men) abuse
 their power over others 

Abortion




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-02 Thread MarioAPNJ
Try not to interpret any one post or subject thread as  someone's overall 
world-view.
 
It is a human tendency to comment more often when Man bites dog instead  of 
Dog bites man,
but I do take heart that, in the long run, our checks and balances do  work,
especially when the Fourth Estate is thrown in the mix.
 
My personal preference, rather than any super heroes or new-age meditation,  
are the age-old classics whose time-tested wisdom always manages  to survive 
and resurface in tough times.
 
And I like writers who pose questions rather than pose.  Like Nancy  Gibbs:
 
Have these last months left us humbled or hardened, bitter at all we think  
we have lost,
or grateful for what we once took for granted?
 
I'll jump on grateful as an antidepressant.   ;-)
 
In a message dated 1/2/2009 9:05:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
gabrielleo...@yahoo.com writes:

wow you  guys are depressing. i think you need to lay off the bad news
for a while,  or jump on some anti depressants. 

whenever I get depressed, I think up  superheroes. or do some mantra
meditation. simply repeat something like  healing, love and light or
thank you over and over. Love, Jesus,  healing, gratitude. Ya know,
anything positive.

I am well aware of  the ugliness that lurks in our government. It has
nothing to do with  American government, it has to do with human
beings.
 
 
**New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making 
headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026)


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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-02 Thread Jersey Shore John
Facing up to reality is not a symptom of depression, but of maturity.

On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:

 wow you guys are depressing. i think you need to lay off the bad news
 for a while, or jump on some anti depressants.

 whenever I get depressed, I think up superheroes. or do some mantra
 meditation. simply repeat something like healing, love and light or
 thank you over and over. Love, Jesus, healing, gratitude. Ya know,
 anything positive.

 I am well aware of the ugliness that lurks in our government. It has
 nothing to do with American government, it has to do with human
 beings. We are terrified of death, think being better, richer, more
 armed, smarter etc will save us. it won't. humans (mostly men) abuse
 their power over others to prove...well all sorts of idiotic things.
 and I am ashamed that a good chunk of my compatriots with ovaries
 continue to sleep and procreate with these emotionally stunted runts
 while they perfect indirect aggression, the female brutality.

 i recently heard a man dis darwin's survival of the fittest. Its
 supposed to be survival of those who cooperate.

 there are good things happening in the world. whats that story about
 the good and evil monster? the one that grows is the one you feed with
 your attention?

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote:
 
  Be careful about doing anything about it.
 
  You might be Connellized http://tinyurl.com/6vdjud
 
  formerly known as Wellstoned: http://tinyurl.com/7xrrro
 
 
 
  In a message dated 1/1/2009 6:46:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
  jerseyshorej...@... writes:
 
  What would you have me do about it?
 
  On Jan 1, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
 
  so what are you gonna do about it?
  In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
  jerseyshorejohn@ wrote:
 
  Unless it's stolen.
 
  On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
 
  its not thanks to Bush. Its thanks to We the People.
 
 
  **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is  
 making
  headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026)
 
 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-02 Thread Jersey Shore John
Shock and awe.

On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:42 AM, justifiedright wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre
 gabrielleo...@... wrote:

  humans (mostly men) abuse
  their power over others

 Abortion


 



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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-02 Thread Gabrielle Obre
one of the saddest stories of abortion i know involved a woman who got
pregnant and her boyfriend bullied her into aborting.



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedri...@... wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre 
 gabrielleobre@ wrote:
 
  humans (mostly men) abuse
  their power over others 
 
 Abortion






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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-02 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre 
gabrielleo...@... wrote:

 one of the saddest stories of abortion i know involved a woman who 
got
 pregnant and her boyfriend bullied her into aborting.

Are you suggesting that one story should be what we judge, and not the 
45 million discretionary killings?




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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-02 Thread Gabrielle Obre
i was thinking you were countering my thought that men are usually the
abusers of power, not talking about abortion in general. its an ugly
thing for sure, but we won't solve the problem of unwanted pregnancies
until women are more empowered in their sexuality. we need real sex
education for teens, not abstinence oaths.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedri...@... wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre 
 gabrielleobre@ wrote:
 
  one of the saddest stories of abortion i know involved a woman who 
 got
  pregnant and her boyfriend bullied her into aborting.
 
 Are you suggesting that one story should be what we judge, and not the 
 45 million discretionary killings?






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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-02 Thread Gabrielle Obre
Does being mature include whining that there is nothing to be done,
and denying our own participation?


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
jerseyshorej...@... wrote:

 Facing up to reality is not a symptom of depression, but of maturity.
 
 On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
 
  wow you guys are depressing. i think you need to lay off the bad news
  for a while, or jump on some anti depressants.
 
  whenever I get depressed, I think up superheroes. or do some mantra
  meditation. simply repeat something like healing, love and light or
  thank you over and over. Love, Jesus, healing, gratitude. Ya know,
  anything positive.
 
  I am well aware of the ugliness that lurks in our government. It has
  nothing to do with American government, it has to do with human
  beings. We are terrified of death, think being better, richer, more
  armed, smarter etc will save us. it won't. humans (mostly men) abuse
  their power over others to prove...well all sorts of idiotic things.
  and I am ashamed that a good chunk of my compatriots with ovaries
  continue to sleep and procreate with these emotionally stunted runts
  while they perfect indirect aggression, the female brutality.
 
  i recently heard a man dis darwin's survival of the fittest. Its
  supposed to be survival of those who cooperate.
 
  there are good things happening in the world. whats that story about
  the good and evil monster? the one that grows is the one you feed with
  your attention?
 
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote:
  
   Be careful about doing anything about it.
  
   You might be Connellized http://tinyurl.com/6vdjud
  
   formerly known as Wellstoned: http://tinyurl.com/7xrrro
  
  
  
   In a message dated 1/1/2009 6:46:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
   jerseyshorejohn@ writes:
  
   What would you have me do about it?
  
   On Jan 1, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
  
   so what are you gonna do about it?
   In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
   jerseyshorejohn@ wrote:
  
   Unless it's stolen.
  
   On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
  
   its not thanks to Bush. Its thanks to We the People.
  
  
   **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is  
  making
   headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026)
  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-02 Thread Jersey Shore John
Discretionary killings:

http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/


On Jan 2, 2009, at 10:23 AM, justifiedright wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre
 gabrielleo...@... wrote:
 
  one of the saddest stories of abortion i know involved a woman who
 got
  pregnant and her boyfriend bullied her into aborting.

 Are you suggesting that one story should be what we judge, and not the
 45 million discretionary killings?


 



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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-02 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... 
wrote:

 i was thinking you were countering my thought that men are usually 
the
 abusers of power, not talking about abortion in general. its an ugly
 thing for sure, but we won't solve the problem of unwanted 
pregnancies
 until women are more empowered in their sexuality. we need real sex
 education for teens, not abstinence oaths.

Abuse of power was precisely the point so lets not change the topic to 
abortion in general.  

45 million killings of innocents.  Thats more than Hitler Stalin and 
Mao combined.

So yes, I counter your assertion that men alone abuse power over others 
when they have it.




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-02 Thread Jersey Shore John
I had no participation. Never voted for Bush and if you think  
acknowledging the disaster of the Bush years is whining, well...  
that's you.

On Jan 2, 2009, at 11:11 AM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:

 Does being mature include whining that there is nothing to be done,
 and denying our own participation?

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
 jerseyshorej...@... wrote:
 
  Facing up to reality is not a symptom of depression, but of  
 maturity.
 
  On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
 
   wow you guys are depressing. i think you need to lay off the  
 bad news
   for a while, or jump on some anti depressants.
  
   whenever I get depressed, I think up superheroes. or do some  
 mantra
   meditation. simply repeat something like healing, love and  
 light or
   thank you over and over. Love, Jesus, healing, gratitude. Ya  
 know,
   anything positive.
  
   I am well aware of the ugliness that lurks in our government.  
 It has
   nothing to do with American government, it has to do with human
   beings. We are terrified of death, think being better, richer,  
 more
   armed, smarter etc will save us. it won't. humans (mostly men)  
 abuse
   their power over others to prove...well all sorts of idiotic  
 things.
   and I am ashamed that a good chunk of my compatriots with ovaries
   continue to sleep and procreate with these emotionally stunted  
 runts
   while they perfect indirect aggression, the female brutality.
  
   i recently heard a man dis darwin's survival of the fittest. Its
   supposed to be survival of those who cooperate.
  
   there are good things happening in the world. whats that story  
 about
   the good and evil monster? the one that grows is the one you  
 feed with
   your attention?
  
   --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote:
   
Be careful about doing anything about it.
   
You might be Connellized http://tinyurl.com/6vdjud
   
formerly known as Wellstoned: http://tinyurl.com/7xrrro
   
   
   
In a message dated 1/1/2009 6:46:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jerseyshorejohn@ writes:
   
What would you have me do about it?
   
On Jan 1, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
   
so what are you gonna do about it?
In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
jerseyshorejohn@ wrote:
   
Unless it's stolen.
   
On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
   
its not thanks to Bush. Its thanks to We the People.
   
   
**New year...new news. Be the first to know what is
   making
headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026)
   
   
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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-02 Thread Gabrielle Obre
I never said alone Tommy Fox. I know women abuse power. I am one and
have spent lots of time around them.  I don't wish to discuss abortion
with you here. thats not why people come here.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedri...@... wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ 
 wrote:
 
  i was thinking you were countering my thought that men are usually 
 the
  abusers of power, not talking about abortion in general. its an ugly
  thing for sure, but we won't solve the problem of unwanted 
 pregnancies
  until women are more empowered in their sexuality. we need real sex
  education for teens, not abstinence oaths.
 
 Abuse of power was precisely the point so lets not change the topic to 
 abortion in general.  
 
 45 million killings of innocents.  Thats more than Hitler Stalin and 
 Mao combined.
 
 So yes, I counter your assertion that men alone abuse power over others 
 when they have it.






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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-02 Thread Gabrielle Obre
acknowledging it is very important. understanding that we all
participate and then therefore are responsible to at least discuss
potential solutions, alternative perspectives etc.

unless of course you don't use oil, live electrically off the grid,
grow all your own food, make your clothes and there are no products
from major corporations in your home. you don't use poisonous
chemicals to clean your home and if you eat meat it is sustainably
produced.

somehow i doubt that is the case.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
jerseyshorej...@... wrote:

 I had no participation. Never voted for Bush and if you think  
 acknowledging the disaster of the Bush years is whining, well...  
 that's you.
 
 On Jan 2, 2009, at 11:11 AM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
 
  Does being mature include whining that there is nothing to be done,
  and denying our own participation?
 
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
  jerseyshorejohn@ wrote:
  
   Facing up to reality is not a symptom of depression, but of  
  maturity.
  
   On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
  
wow you guys are depressing. i think you need to lay off the  
  bad news
for a while, or jump on some anti depressants.
   
whenever I get depressed, I think up superheroes. or do some  
  mantra
meditation. simply repeat something like healing, love and  
  light or
thank you over and over. Love, Jesus, healing, gratitude. Ya  
  know,
anything positive.
   
I am well aware of the ugliness that lurks in our government.  
  It has
nothing to do with American government, it has to do with human
beings. We are terrified of death, think being better, richer,  
  more
armed, smarter etc will save us. it won't. humans (mostly men)  
  abuse
their power over others to prove...well all sorts of idiotic  
  things.
and I am ashamed that a good chunk of my compatriots with ovaries
continue to sleep and procreate with these emotionally stunted  
  runts
while they perfect indirect aggression, the female brutality.
   
i recently heard a man dis darwin's survival of the fittest. Its
supposed to be survival of those who cooperate.
   
there are good things happening in the world. whats that story  
  about
the good and evil monster? the one that grows is the one you  
  feed with
your attention?
   
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote:

 Be careful about doing anything about it.

 You might be Connellized http://tinyurl.com/6vdjud

 formerly known as Wellstoned: http://tinyurl.com/7xrrro



 In a message dated 1/1/2009 6:46:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
 jerseyshorejohn@ writes:

 What would you have me do about it?

 On Jan 1, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:

 so what are you gonna do about it?
 In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
 jerseyshorejohn@ wrote:

 Unless it's stolen.

 On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:

 its not thanks to Bush. Its thanks to We the People.


 **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is
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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-01 Thread Gabrielle Obre
nice way to play the victim JJ. so what are you gonna do about it?



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
jerseyshorej...@... wrote:

 Unless it's stolen.
 
 On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
 
  its not thanks to Bush. Its thanks to We the People.
 
  George Bernard Shaw: Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be
  governed no better than we deserve.
 
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
  jerseyshorejohn@ wrote:
  
   That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state,
   thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a
   neutered government, all synchronized.
  
   On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
  
I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a  
  joke
and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't  
  say
much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty  
  vanilla,
PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of
thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism.  
  But
then again look at what is mainstream.
   
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@
wrote:

 Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a
newspaper. It has zero
 journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion  
  essay
by underpaid writers. This
 nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster  
  which is
a true newspaper with
 real reporters and real news and real ad rates.
 This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke.
 No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos  
  to him
for figuring out how to
 take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other  
  true
newspapers like the AP
 Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong.

   
   
   
  
  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-01 Thread Jersey Shore John
It's not playing the victim. He stole two elections. Those are the  
facts.

http://tinyurl.com/9q4xds

http://tinyurl.com/ogrhq

What's playing the victim about that? What would you have me do  
about it? Threaten to poison a sitting Supreme Court judge like  
mAnnThrax Coultegeist?

http://tinyurl.com/4sxw7u


On Jan 1, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:

 nice way to play the victim JJ. so what are you gonna do about it?

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
 jerseyshorej...@... wrote:
 
  Unless it's stolen.
 
  On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
 
   its not thanks to Bush. Its thanks to We the People.
  
   George Bernard Shaw: Democracy is a device that ensures we  
 shall be
   governed no better than we deserve.
  
   --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
   jerseyshorejohn@ wrote:
   
That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state,
thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations  
 and a
neutered government, all synchronized.
   
On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
   
 I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a
   joke
 and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing.  
 Can't
   say
 much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty
   vanilla,
 PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in  
 terms of
 thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task  
 journalism.
   But
 then again look at what is mainstream.

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@
 wrote:
 
  Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a
 newspaper. It has zero
  journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion
   essay
 by underpaid writers. This
  nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster
   which is
 a true newspaper with
  real reporters and real news and real ad rates.
  This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke.
  No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and  
 kudos
   to him
 for figuring out how to
  take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to  
 other
   true
 newspapers like the AP
  Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong.
 



   
   
   
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2009-01-01 Thread MarioAPNJ
Be careful about doing anything about it.
 
You might be Connellizedhttp://tinyurl.com/6vdjud 
 
formerly known as Wellstoned:   http://tinyurl.com/7xrrro 
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/1/2009 6:46:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jerseyshorej...@earthlink.net writes:

What  would you have me do  about it?

On Jan 1, 2009, at 2:16 PM,  Gabrielle Obre wrote:

so what are you gonna do about  it?
In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore  John
jerseyshorej...@... wrote:

Unless it's stolen.

On  Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:

its not thanks to Bush.  Its thanks to We the  People.


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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2008-12-31 Thread MarioAPNJ
Response here  http://tinyurl.com/6sj3x8
 
Message 1404 
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asburypolitics/message/1404
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/30/2008 11:29:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jerseyshorej...@earthlink.net writes:

Never

On Dec 30, 2008, at 11:14 PM, Kevin Brown  wrote:

ROFLOL...

 Blaming President Bush for liberal  manipulating media. That's the
 funniest oxymoron I have ever  heard...LOL

 Wait, within one year, you will see how much you  wish he was still
 keeping the attack dog terrorists at  bsy.

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2008-12-31 Thread Jersey Shore John
IOW: Liberal media, my a$$

On Dec 31, 2008, at 8:43 AM, marioa...@aol.com wrote:

 Response here http://tinyurl.com/6sj3x8

 Message 1404

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asburypolitics/message/1404



 In a message dated 12/30/2008 11:29:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
 jerseyshorej...@earthlink.net writes:

 Never

 On Dec 30, 2008, at 11:14 PM, Kevin Brown wrote:

 ROFLOL...
 
  Blaming President Bush for liberal manipulating media. That's the
  funniest oxymoron I have ever heard...LOL
 
  Wait, within one year, you will see how much you wish he was still
  keeping the attack dog terrorists at bsy.

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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2008-12-31 Thread sharon_b283
You can say that again!  I yell back at the TV, when a commentator
says that Bush won 2 elections and I say since when?  Bush was no
more than a puppet for Cheney!  If anything went bad on Bush's
watch, they don't blame Cheney, they blame Bush.  Obama has'nt taken
the oath yet, and already he's being blamed for the
recession/depression.  Bush is still giving billions away to the
corporate elite, who screwed this country and are still rewarding
themselves with golden parachutes, while the little guy is screwed
over and over!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
jerseyshorej...@... wrote:

 Unless it's stolen.
 
 On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
 
  its not thanks to Bush. Its thanks to We the People.
 
  George Bernard Shaw: Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be
  governed no better than we deserve.
 
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
  jerseyshorejohn@ wrote:
  
   That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state,
   thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a
   neutered government, all synchronized.
  
   On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
  
I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a  
  joke
and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't  
  say
much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty  
  vanilla,
PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of
thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism.  
  But
then again look at what is mainstream.
   
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@
wrote:

 Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a
newspaper. It has zero
 journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion  
  essay
by underpaid writers. This
 nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster  
  which is
a true newspaper with
 real reporters and real news and real ad rates.
 This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke.
 No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos  
  to him
for figuring out how to
 take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other  
  true
newspapers like the AP
 Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong.

   
   
   
  
  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2008-12-30 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderd...@... wrote:

 the Coaster is blatantly wrong.


and The Coaster has an on-line venue. Simple and clean. you want more, 
you pick it up. Has their online offering hurt their paper circulation?

What if The Coaster went totally free for their printed paper?

The Internet is powerful. More so then trying to figure out how many 
people picked up and read the paper or see an ad and react (unless you 
have a coupon).

If 45,000 pages were looked at in one month on asburyboardwalk.com - is 
that more valuable then 10,000 newspapers distributed?

The paper is great way of reaching a local audience. You see it and 
touch it. The Internet is more powerful - as it provides instant 
feedback on a query - like restaurants in Asbury Park at 5 pm or 9 pm 
either on your mobile or home pc you might see asburyboardwalk.com 
on google or asbury park dining on yahoo you might see someone else's 
site - but no TCN. 

What's more valuable? 
A: Both

so much detail can be obtained from the web

what's even lower then low cost ads

Free listings.

http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/dining1.htm

Plus interesting stats time to rethink the model.








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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2008-12-30 Thread Gabrielle Obre
I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a joke
and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't say
much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty vanilla,
PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of
thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. But
then again look at what is mainstream.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderd...@... wrote:

 Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a
newspaper. It has zero 
 journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay
by underpaid writers. This 
 nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is
a true newspaper with 
 real reporters and real news and real ad rates.
 This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke.
 No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him
for figuring out how to 
 take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true
newspapers like the AP 
 Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong.






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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2008-12-30 Thread Jersey Shore John
That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state,  
thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a  
neutered government, all synchronized.

On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:

 I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a joke
 and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't say
 much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty vanilla,
 PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of
 thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. But
 then again look at what is mainstream.

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderd...@...  
 wrote:
 
  Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a
 newspaper. It has zero
  journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay
 by underpaid writers. This
  nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is
 a true newspaper with
  real reporters and real news and real ad rates.
  This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke.
  No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him
 for figuring out how to
  take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true
 newspapers like the AP
  Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong.
 


 



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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2008-12-30 Thread Gabrielle Obre
its not thanks to Bush. Its thanks to We the People. 

George Bernard Shaw: Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be
governed no better than we deserve.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
jerseyshorej...@... wrote:

 That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state,  
 thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a  
 neutered government, all synchronized.
 
 On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
 
  I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a joke
  and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't say
  much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty vanilla,
  PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of
  thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. But
  then again look at what is mainstream.
 
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@  
  wrote:
  
   Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a
  newspaper. It has zero
   journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay
  by underpaid writers. This
   nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is
  a true newspaper with
   real reporters and real news and real ad rates.
   This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke.
   No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him
  for figuring out how to
   take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true
  newspapers like the AP
   Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong.
  
 
 
  
 
 
 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2008-12-30 Thread Jersey Shore John
Unless it's stolen.

On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:

 its not thanks to Bush. Its thanks to We the People.

 George Bernard Shaw: Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be
 governed no better than we deserve.

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
 jerseyshorej...@... wrote:
 
  That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state,
  thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a
  neutered government, all synchronized.
 
  On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
 
   I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a  
 joke
   and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't  
 say
   much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty  
 vanilla,
   PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of
   thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism.  
 But
   then again look at what is mainstream.
  
   --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@
   wrote:
   
Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a
   newspaper. It has zero
journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion  
 essay
   by underpaid writers. This
nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster  
 which is
   a true newspaper with
real reporters and real news and real ad rates.
This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke.
No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos  
 to him
   for figuring out how to
take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other  
 true
   newspapers like the AP
Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong.
   
  
  
  
 
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2008-12-30 Thread Kevin Brown
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John 
jerseyshorej...@... wrote:

 That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state,  
 thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a  
 neutered government, all synchronized.
 
 On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
 
  I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a 
joke
  and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't 
say
  much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty 
vanilla,
  PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of
  thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. 
But
  then again look at what is mainstream.
 
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@  
  wrote:
  
   Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a
  newspaper. It has zero
   journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion 
essay
  by underpaid writers. This
   nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster 
which is
  a true newspaper with
   real reporters and real news and real ad rates.
   This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke.
   No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos 
to him
  for figuring out how to
   take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other 
true
  newspapers like the AP
   Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong.
  
 
 
  
 
 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


ROFLOL...

Blaming President Bush for liberal manipulating media.  That's the 
funniest oxymoron I have ever heard...LOL

Wait, within one year, you will see how much you wish he was still 
keeping the attack dog terrorists at bsy.




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2008-12-30 Thread Jersey Shore John
Never

On Dec 30, 2008, at 11:14 PM, Kevin Brown wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
 jerseyshorej...@... wrote:
 
  That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state,
  thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a
  neutered government, all synchronized.
 
  On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
 
   I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a
 joke
   and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't
 say
   much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty
 vanilla,
   PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of
   thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism.
 But
   then again look at what is mainstream.
  
   --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@
   wrote:
   
Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a
   newspaper. It has zero
journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion
 essay
   by underpaid writers. This
nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster
 which is
   a true newspaper with
real reporters and real news and real ad rates.
This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke.
No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos
 to him
   for figuring out how to
take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other
 true
   newspapers like the AP
Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong.
   
  
  
  
 
 
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 

 ROFLOL...

 Blaming President Bush for liberal manipulating media. That's the
 funniest oxymoron I have ever heard...LOL

 Wait, within one year, you will see how much you wish he was still
 keeping the attack dog terrorists at bsy.


 



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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....

2008-12-30 Thread Jersey Shore John
Evangelical Christians have long been a base for the Republican  
Party. But polling data and anecdotal evidence suggest that younger  
evangelicals voted for Barack Obama at double the rate they did for  
the 2004 Democratic presidential candidate, John Kerry.

http://www.northjersey.com/politics/Leaving_the_GOP_fold.html

On Dec 30, 2008, at 11:14 PM, Kevin Brown wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
 jerseyshorej...@... wrote:
 
  That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state,
  thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a
  neutered government, all synchronized.
 
  On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote:
 
   I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a
 joke
   and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't
 say
   much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty
 vanilla,
   PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of
   thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism.
 But
   then again look at what is mainstream.
  
   --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@
   wrote:
   
Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a
   newspaper. It has zero
journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion
 essay
   by underpaid writers. This
nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster
 which is
   a true newspaper with
real reporters and real news and real ad rates.
This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke.
No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos
 to him
   for figuring out how to
take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other
 true
   newspapers like the AP
Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong.
   
  
  
  
 
 
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 

 ROFLOL...

 Blaming President Bush for liberal manipulating media. That's the
 funniest oxymoron I have ever heard...LOL

 Wait, within one year, you will see how much you wish he was still
 keeping the attack dog terrorists at bsy.


 



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