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Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dianHigher Education
Alpanaji,
Excuse me from seeming uncouth - but He He He thats a good one!!
If you mean Western countries like West Indies -- perhaps you have have heard
right that some --only a few (mostly private run) Indian high schools are
better.
But on the whole there can be no doubt that most Indian high schools (esp govt
ones) lack adequate staff, facilities -- if you compare with western countries
like USA, Canada , UK or even Mexico. In Mexico 98% graduate from elementary
school -compared to 70% in India (that too is a govt estimate - out of those
enrolled -- which is about 80% of total primary school age population).
And even if curriculum is challenging in state level exams - in many states
(including Madhya Pradesh, UP, Bihar and many others) there is always the
option of cheating inside the school examination hall with full cooperation of
the examiners - who may be from another school. Some time back I recall UP had
tougned its anti-cheating rule and passing rate fell from 80% to 30%. The
parents were angry and the govt lost face in international and national arena. .
On the plank that anti-cheating rules would be reverted to old system if
elected - the new govt came to power.
It is true that most private schools are forced to be competitive but in places
like Delhi even government schools are pretty well managed thanks to the civil
society incl media who maintain hawks eye of teacher's teacing and attendance ,
examination etc.
Also, perhaps the NRA perception that US colleges are good but not schools -
may stem from the fact that dating stats early in US (though not true for all
communities) and that by the time students reach college there are mature
enough. So many NRI parents send their kids or migrate wholesale to India till
the risky years are over. That may have nothing to do with the quality of
science or math or humanities education provided in US schools or that of UK or
Canada.
Regards.
Umesh
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with? Or, did they just grow wings to fly to the US right after they were born
in Assam/India?
I thought they say that the standard of secondary school (not college)
education in India is higher than that of many western countries, no?
In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and
humble like a blade of grass
- Lakshmana
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To: assam@assamnet.org
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:16:32 -0600
Subject: Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dianHigher
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Thanksgiving 2007 after Turkey and Cranberry pudding they should pledge to work
out a very well thought out plan to enable Direction to Purposeful Education
for all in Oxom now and for the Future.
Time and tide waits for no man.
Mukulda:
Nice! . And if we have been asked to work out a plan for Purposeful Education
for Oxom, then what do you think in your mind it will be. I have a plan what I
call, Get On Demand Plan. You get whatever you demand. I call it the GOD plan
imagining that money is not the problem (which probably is a fact for Oxom),
that is what we would ask GOD to give for Oxom.
Let us discuss what such a Purposeful Education System would be for Oxom or
rather the North East?
Rajen
- Original Message -
From: mc mahant
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dianHigher
Education
Education is what brought many Assamnetters to where they are.
They surely want their old country folk to be properly educated to do
something better-live better-healthier-happier-more useful to the
world/humanity.
So at Thanksgiving 2007 after Turkey and Cranberry pudding they should pledge
to work out a very well thought out plan to enable Direction to Purposeful
Education for all in Oxom now and for the Future.
Time and tide waits for no man.
mm
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:56:41 -0600
To: assam@assamnet.org
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Subject: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dian Higher Education
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We Do Need That Education...
China is re-orienting and investing in its
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Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dianHigher Education
Alpana, Alpana, Alpana! When will you ever learn :-)?
Just because these folks --you or I or whoever
came to the USA or went to Bilaat or what have
you, does not necessarily mean we were EDUCATED.
Does it? Education is a bit more than collecting
information or being able to do good math. Or did
you miss the highlighted points ,made by the
writer in that Outlook article?
I thought they say that the standard
of secondary school (not college) education in
India is higher than that of many western
countries, no?
*** Let us assume for a moment, just to make you
feel good, that it is indeed so. Now then if it
IS so,
why is India in the shape it is? Or why do
Indians in these forums like our own, ask the
kind of questions they do or make the comments
they do? And finally how many from a class of
fifty or even a hundred ( with one teacher
riding herd as they have to in many Indian
schools; as you are oblivious of ) come out to be
the 'brilliant' products they get to be known as?
What percentage of an Indian school or college
get that minimum of what could be considered a
reasonably rounded EDUCATION , never mind
well-rounded?
We don't expect you to speak for what you have
never seen or experienced that goes on outside
your sphere of awareness. But can you enlighten
us from your own experiences ? I realize it was
from a distant past as our modern day friends
would readily counter. But how much has it
changed, do you have any idea?
At 12:39 AM -0600 11/23/07, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
Didn't these NRAs get their education in that
Indian system itself to begin with? Or, did they
just grow wings to fly to the US right after
they were born in Assam/India?
I thought they say that the standard
of secondary school (not college) education in
India is higher than that of many western
countries, no?
In order to make spiritual progress you must be
patient like a tree and humble like a blade of
grass
- Lakshmana
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: assam@assamnet.org
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:16:32 -0600
Subject: Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An
Indictment of In dianHigher Education
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So at Thanksgiving 2007 after Turkey and
Cranberry pudding they should pledge to work out
a very well thought out plan to enable Direction
to Purposeful Education for all in Oxom now
and for the Future.
Time and tide waits for no man.
Mukulda:
Nice! . And if we have been asked to work out a
plan for Purposeful Education for Oxom, then
what do you think in your mind it will be. I
have a plan what I call, Get On Demand Plan. You
get whatever you demand. I call it the GOD plan
imagining that money is not the problem (which
probably is a fact for Oxom), that is what we
would ask GOD to give for Oxom.
Let us discuss what such a Purposeful Education
System would be for Oxom or rather the North
East?
Rajen
- Original Message -
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mc mahant
To: mailto:assam@assamnet.orgA Mailing list
for people interested in Assam from around the
world
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An
Indictment of In dianHigher Education
Education is what brought many Assamnetters to where they are.
They surely want their old country folk to be
properly educated to do something better-live
better-healthier-happier-more useful to the
world/humanity.
So at Thanksgiving 2007 after Turkey and
Cranberry pudding they should pledge to work out
a very well thought out plan to enable Direction
to Purposeful Education for all in Oxom now
and for the Future.
Time and tide waits for no man.
mm
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:56:41 -0600
To: assam@assamnet.org
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dian Higher Education
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We Do Need That Education...
China is re-orienting and investing in its
higher education sector to meet the challenges
of the future, but India continues to ignore the
systemic collapse that is crying out for an
urgent and drastic overhaul.
HARSH V. PANT
A few days back, two news stories appeared in
the Indian media. One was the absence of Indian
universities from a list of top 200 (not 100!)
higher educational institutions in the world
while as many as 10 Chinese universities made it
to the list. The other was about the letter that
the Aligarh Muslim University Vice Chancellor
has been forced to write to the parents of his
students threatening to convert the academic
session into a
Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of IndianHigher Education
Really love this concept: GOD You be the collector/moderator of mission GOD-NE(of course). Let us begin with a serial flow of random thoughts from all . None will be accepted/rejected. They will be edited/moderated/presented finally in Assamnet to Powers Coming up: Can I offer a few to start with? Only One foreign Language per area-Say Digboi -Thai; Pasighat-Tibetan,Rangia- Bhutia,Dibrugarh-Cantonese, Sibsagar-Russian,Jorhat-Mandarin ;Nagaon- Korean ;Guahati-French;Dhuburi - Farsi; Silchar-Arabic, Kokrajhar-Magyar--- in School/college/Signboards/Newspaper Language-Brides from those lands preferred---. Universal free primary School-cum-creche -walking distance - from3yrs till age7 - mostly in THE Foreign Language. Extensive use of Video,Calligraphy,Phonetics,customs,Music,dance.Universal Internet Co-Ed MiddleSchool 711 yrs. Prime Language=FOREIGN + Some formal mother Tongue-Assamese/Bodo/Bengali/Khasi in the Foreign Land' s best Curriculum. Self-Assessment as often as you wish.Course material will be E-format -constantly updated into the IntraNet by a Teacher/Compiler Group. Girls'Boys'High School 11+16+ will stress on Agro/Soil/Green/LifeScience/sexEducation + Problem Solving mentally/Physically.Each will finish as expert hands on-- Cad/CNC/ChipTechnician/Crane-Earthmoving operator Welder---.One Sport predominates in the area (see 1 above) same as sport preferred in the Foreign Land. Main Practice I am Done for now. mm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:16:32 -0600Subject: Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dianHigher Education So at Thanksgiving 2007 after Turkey and Cranberry pudding they should pledge to work out a very well thought out plan to enable Direction to Purposeful Education for all in Oxom now and for the Future. Time and tide waits for no man. Mukulda: Nice! . And if we have been asked to work out a plan for Purposeful Education for Oxom, then what do you think in your mind it will be. I have a plan what I call, Get On Demand Plan. You get whatever you demand. I call it the GOD plan imagining that money is not the problem (which probably is a fact for Oxom), that is what we would ask GOD to give for Oxom. Let us discuss what such a Purposeful Education System would be for Oxom or rather the North East? Rajen - Original Message - From: mc mahant To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dianHigher Education Education is what brought many Assamnetters to where they are. They surely want their old country folk to be properly educated to do something better-live better-healthier-happier-more useful to the world/humanity.So at Thanksgiving 2007 after Turkey and Cranberry pudding they should pledge to work out a very well thought out plan to enable Direction to Purposeful Education for all in Oxom now and for the Future. Time and tide waits for no man.mm Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:56:41 -0600To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dian Higher Education ( Highlighting mine: cm) We Do Need That Education...China is re-orienting and investing in its higher education sector to meet the challenges of the future, but India continues to ignore the systemic collapse that is crying out for an urgent and drastic overhaul.HARSH V. PANTA few days back, two news stories appeared in the Indian media. One was the absence of Indian universities from a list of top 200 (not 100!) higher educational institutions in the world while as many as 10 Chinese universities made it to the list. The other was about the letter that the Aligarh Muslim University Vice Chancellor has been forced to write to the parents of his students threatening to convert the academic session into a Zero Year in case of a repeat of campus violence -- in mid-September, earlier in the year, the university had been forced to close down after violence and arson on the campus in protest against the murder of a student. These news items are symptomatic of the rot that has set in the Indian higher education system, which seems to be in the news only for wrong reasons.Amid all the claims about the rise of India as a major player in the international system, it is often ignored that India continues to face some fundamental obstacles in its drive to achieve its full potential. One of the most significant of which is the crisis in India's higher education system, something that gets drowned in the din of those feel-good stories about the engineers and managers emerging from India's premier professional institutions such as the IITs and the IIMs. Sometime back, inaugurating a national conference of Vice Chancellors (VCs), organised by the University Grant Commission, the union human resources development
[Assam] Minorities in Assam should not join hands with the dark forces to harm a speaker of the truth from the bank of the Brahmaputra.
*It was only about Taslima: Idris Ali* * * http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=22theme=usrsess=1id=177549 Statesman News Service KOLKATA, Nov. 22: Perhaps realising the protest against Taslima Nasreen's visa extension would incite more passions than the recapture of Nandigram, Mr Idris Ali, president of All India Minority Forum today did an U-turn. He said yesterday's protest was solely against Taslima Nasreen's prolonged stay and not related to the Nandigram issue in any way, as was reported in the press. Incidentally, the protestors had claimed yesterday that Nandigram was also one of the issues, apart from the controversial Bangladeshi writer. We have not mixed up issues as has been reported. We were not agitating against the violence in Nandigram, we were only protesting against the visa extension of Ms Taslima Nasreen as we strongly believe that she has no right to stay in this state, Mr Ali said. He met the Iman of Tipu Sultan Masjid, Syed Md Murur Rahman Barkati, this evening but refused to comment on whether they have planned any further protests. We have not yet planned but will be discussing it over soon. Denying allegations that the forum was behind yesterday's violence, Mr Ali said, We were protesting peacefully as planned but police arrested about 200 people in the morning, even before violence erupted. The arrest in fact sparked off the violence. He also added that police has booked the people on charges of rioting, unlawful assembly, attempt to murder, voluntarily causing hurt to deter public servants from duty, and causing damage. Mr Ali said the blueprint of the movement submitted by the forum to the police had mentioned that peaceful agitation will be carried out only in the Park Circus area and not near KC Das as claimed by the city police chief. We had about 60 representatives of the forum and were only confined to the Park Circus area as per our plan. We never said we will also be agitating near KC Das at Esplanade. He added, Our men were not involved in the violence that spread to Moulali, Ripon Street-AJC Bose Road crossing, Dorina Crossing, Beniapukur, Taltala, Kareya, Entally, Park Street, Topsia, Park Street and Sundari Mohan Avenue. I do not know whether they were hoodlums or any group but they were not members of our forum. Mr Ali has filed a case against Mr Biman Bose, state Left Front chairman and Benoy Konar, senior CPI-M leader, for making derogatory comments about the High Court. He said if necessary steps are not taken against them, people will lose faith in the judicial system. He demanded urgent hearing of this case. Asked if he has heard whether Taslima Nasreen has left the city, Mr Ali said, I have no information in this regard. I have not heard anything so far. ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] [WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets.
the desalination plants on the sea shores will dump the chlorides back in to the sea. That is no problem. Salt% will be equilibrium in the Sea in a few minutes. Also, theTHICKER BRINE will be better starting material for Soda /Alkali plants. What IS a problem? The anaerobic bacteria in the Septic Tank will all die! mm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:53:28 +0530Subject: Re: [WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets. the desalination plants on the sea shores will dump the chlorides back in to the sea. think of the whole lot of problems and diseases we are having because of scarcity of water. an experimental initiative can always be taken. technology will find solutions to any problems that crop up. salty water can kill many bacterias and deadly viruses. brij khandelwal - Original Message - From: rohit pathania To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets. I do not think that is such agood idea. Where will we dispose the heavy chloride content water then? Into rivers? It will only add to the increasing pollution of river streams. Also, too much chloride can prove detrimental to the fresh water aquatic life. On 11/13/07, Richard Harkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm uncertain where the notion of desalination (which is expensive) fits into this model? The basic premises of wastewater treatment is screening (course then fine) followed by 'primary' treatment (sedimentation anaerobic digestion de-watering) to take out suspended matter (and return water to?). 'Secondary' treatment can follow to further remove BOD and other polluting factors. The water salinity would tend to make the oxidation more difficult. Certainly ideas which centre around smaller-scale dry oxidation need to be rigorous in achieving some sterilisation. The most useful ideas are through using bio-remediation. This can achieve (re)cyling of waste as fertiliser through sterilisation and also 'stabilising' the waste so that chemical decomposition can make the nitrates fraction (ammonia conversion) available for plant up-take. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:06:20 +0530 Subject: [WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets. From: BRIJ KHANDELWAL 21/22. Free Ganj, AGRA-282004 Phones: 05624002937, mobile: 9997186708 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] so many alternative toilet designs have been considered but none found practical enough. the problem is not so much with the toilet design but with the scarce water resources at our command. we have to therefore look for ways to increase water supply. i have long been campaigning for laying pipelines from the sea coast to feed sea water to muncipalities. the sea water can be used for the toilets, for cleaning utensils and for the garages. a beginning can be made in cities along the vast coastline of india. luckily india has the technology now to desalinate water. in most urban centres people have already begun buying so called mineral water in bottles and jars. if people are willing to buy water, the sea water filtered and desalinated can also be supplied. clusters of tiny sea water treatment units can come up all along the coast and the water can be transported. we should also start working on sea water lakes fed by a pipeline. the lakes will bring down the pollution level, control temperature and also help develop fisheries. sea weeds can also grow. india is fortunate to have sea on three sides. a few hundred kilometre long pipelines from the sea pumping sea water will be very practical, safe and economic. sea water will also kill a variety of bacterias and insects. our rivers too can be flushed with sea water, roads cleaned. the need therefore is to use treated sea water. it is neither practical nor desirable to stop using flush toilets. all you need is a regular supply of water to flush out the shit. so start using sea water. desalination plants using solar energy have already come up in several countries. one is working in tamil nadu. tidal energy can also be used to desalinate water. let us use our vast resources of sea water. that is the need of the hour. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:50 PM Subject: [WaterWatch] Nobel Peace Prize for re-inventing toilet!Nobel Peace Prize for re-inventing toilet! Common flush toilet with its numerous opulent versions has outlived its relevance! Undoubtedly cynical, it is time that this sixteenth century invention is taken back to the drawing board before it turns out to be a seat of inconvenience. It is neither a outrageous suggestion to shun the existing toilet nor a weird provocation to go
Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment ofIndianHigher Education
Dear Mukulda: Very well!!! I support point # 2,3,4 fully except for 'foreign language' term. Could not understand the 'Only one foreign language per area cocept' in item # 1. We also need higher education and technical education. Engineering Degree College, Diploma College, Technical Training college, Agricultural College, Petroleum Engineering college, Tea Training college, Rice Research center, Medical college, Nursing college, Homeopathic college, Vetenary college, Chyropractic college, Acupunture college, Ayurvedic college, Community college for adult education, etc. Let us try to find out what will be these and where in North East will be these. Thanks Rajen - Original Message - From: mc mahant To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment ofIndianHigher Education Really love this concept: GOD You be the collector/moderator of mission GOD-NE(of course). Let us begin with a serial flow of random thoughts from all . None will be accepted/rejected. They will be edited/moderated/presented finally in Assamnet to Powers Coming up: Can I offer a few to start with? 1.. Only One foreign Language per area-Say Digboi -Thai; Pasighat-Tibetan,Rangia- Bhutia,Dibrugarh-Cantonese, Sibsagar-Russian,Jorhat-Mandarin ;Nagaon- Korean ;Guahati-French;Dhuburi - Farsi; Silchar-Arabic, Kokrajhar-Magyar--- in School/college/Signboards/Newspaper Language-Brides from those lands preferred---. 2.. Universal free primary School-cum-creche -walking distance - from3yrs till age7 - mostly in THE Foreign Language. Extensive use of Video,Calligraphy,Phonetics,customs,Music,dance.Universal Internet 3.. Co-Ed MiddleSchool 711 yrs. Prime Language=FOREIGN + Some formal mother Tongue-Assamese/Bodo/Bengali/Khasi in the Foreign Land' s best Curriculum. Self-Assessment as often as you wish.Course material will be E-format -constantly updated into the IntraNet by a Teacher/Compiler Group. 4.. Girls'Boys'High School 11+16+ will stress on Agro/Soil/Green/LifeScience/sexEducation + Problem Solving mentally/Physically.Each will finish as expert hands on-- Cad/CNC/ChipTechnician/Crane-Earthmoving operator Welder---.One Sport predominates in the area (see 1 above) same as sport preferred in the Foreign Land. Main Practice I am Done for now. mm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:16:32 -0600 Subject: Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dianHigher Education So at Thanksgiving 2007 after Turkey and Cranberry pudding they should pledge to work out a very well thought out plan to enable Direction to Purposeful Education for all in Oxom now and for the Future. Time and tide waits for no man. Mukulda: Nice! . And if we have been asked to work out a plan for Purposeful Education for Oxom, then what do you think in your mind it will be. I have a plan what I call, Get On Demand Plan. You get whatever you demand. I call it the GOD plan imagining that money is not the problem (which probably is a fact for Oxom), that is what we would ask GOD to give for Oxom. Let us discuss what such a Purposeful Education System would be for Oxom or rather the North East? Rajen - Original Message - From: mc mahant To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dianHigher Education Education is what brought many Assamnetters to where they are. They surely want their old country folk to be properly educated to do something better-live better-healthier-happier-more useful to the world/humanity. So at Thanksgiving 2007 after Turkey and Cranberry pudding they should pledge to work out a very well thought out plan to enable Direction to Purposeful Education for all in Oxom now and for the Future. Time and tide waits for no man. mm Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:56:41 -0600 To: assam@assamnet.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dian Higher Education ( Highlighting mine: cm) We Do Need That Education... China is re-orienting and investing in its higher education sector to meet the challenges of the future, but India continues to ignore the systemic collapse that is crying out for an urgent and drastic overhaul. HARSH V. PANT A few days back, two news stories appeared in the Indian media. One was the absence of Indian universities from a list of top
Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment ofIndianHigher Education
Baruasaab, Ok for a quicky. By foreign means no Assamese,no English-only IN the Foreign Language, force-fed. We also need higher education and technical education I only went to 16+. And you list 15 Types of colleges?campuses+Universities? Maybe we can lump all these in one GOD-NE. But these- later. what will be these and where in North East will be these : GOD -NE should be everywhere! You should wait for all participants to gather their thoughts- an they will come out with gems. Do not rush anybody.Let out a long Rope! mm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:16:51 -0600Subject: Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment ofIndianHigher Education Dear Mukulda: Very well!!! I support point # 2,3,4 fully except for 'foreign language' term. Could not understand the 'Only one foreign language per area cocept' in item # 1. We also need higher education and technical education. Engineering Degree College, Diploma College, Technical Training college, Agricultural College, Petroleum Engineering college, Tea Training college, Rice Research center, Medical college, Nursing college, Homeopathic college, Vetenary college, Chyropractic college, Acupunture college, Ayurvedic college, Community college for adult education, etc. Let us try to find out what will be these and where in North East will be these. Thanks Rajen - Original Message - From: mc mahant To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment ofIndianHigher Education Really love this concept: GOD You be the collector/moderator of mission GOD-NE(of course). Let us begin with a serial flow of random thoughts from all . None will be accepted/rejected.They will be edited/moderated/presented finally in Assamnet to Powers Coming up:Can I offer a few to start with? Only One foreign Language per area-Say Digboi -Thai; Pasighat-Tibetan,Rangia- Bhutia,Dibrugarh-Cantonese, Sibsagar-Russian,Jorhat-Mandarin ;Nagaon- Korean ;Guahati-French;Dhuburi - Farsi; Silchar-Arabic, Kokrajhar-Magyar--- in School/college/Signboards/Newspaper Language-Brides from those lands preferred---. Universal free primary School-cum-creche -walking distance - from3yrs till age7 - mostly in THE Foreign Language. Extensive use of Video,Calligraphy,Phonetics,customs,Music,dance.Universal Internet Co-Ed MiddleSchool 711 yrs. Prime Language=FOREIGN + Some formal mother Tongue-Assamese/Bodo/Bengali/Khasi in the Foreign Land' s best Curriculum. Self-Assessment as often as you wish.Course material will be E-format -constantly updated into the IntraNet by a Teacher/Compiler Group. Girls'Boys'High School 11+16+ will stress on Agro/Soil/Green/LifeScience/sexEducation + Problem Solving mentally/Physically.Each will finish as expert hands on-- Cad/CNC/ChipTechnician/Crane-Earthmoving operator Welder---.One Sport predominates in the area (see 1 above) same as sport preferred in the Foreign Land. Main Practice I am Done for now.mm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:16:32 -0600Subject: Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dianHigher Education So at Thanksgiving 2007 after Turkey and Cranberry pudding they should pledge to work out a very well thought out plan to enable Direction to Purposeful Education for all in Oxom now and for the Future. Time and tide waits for no man. Mukulda: Nice! . And if we have been asked to work out a plan for Purposeful Education for Oxom, then what do you think in your mind it will be. I have a plan what I call, Get On Demand Plan. You get whatever you demand. I call it the GOD plan imagining that money is not the problem (which probably is a fact for Oxom), that is what we would ask GOD to give for Oxom. Let us discuss what such a Purposeful Education System would be for Oxom or rather the North East? Rajen - Original Message - From: mc mahant To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dianHigher Education Education is what brought many Assamnetters to where they are. They surely want their old country folk to be properly educated to do something better-live better-healthier-happier-more useful to the world/humanity.So at Thanksgiving 2007 after Turkey and Cranberry pudding they should pledge to work out a very well thought out plan to enable Direction to Purposeful Education for all in Oxom now and for the Future. Time and tide waits for no man.mm Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:56:41 -0600To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dian Higher Education ( Highlighting mine: cm) We Do Need That Education...China is re-orienting and investing in its higher education sector to meet
[Assam] IIT-complex = MIT, Harvard etc - an international resignation
Hi, Just talked to one of my closest high-school time friends (in India), another one I had talked for 2 hours yesterday . I was responding to his voicemail on my phone which said that XYZ has left his job!! People continue to leave jobs in India -- but not this job!!! This job is a job which brings not only power and prestige but also plenty of money - even by US standards. That of an Indian Police Service (IPS) Officer - pay is not much - maybe $1,000 per month (like that in US embassy, DC's analyst's pay :-) ) but potential to make much more income or help others make it - esp. those in wine/spirits etc business or customs etc in India. I am told that even for small positions people pay upto a $100,000 and bidding is done for many posts. Thus, if someone leaves such a job -- it makes for international news - international phone calls. It is still not confirmed though. Ofcourse, noone will call regarding strangers. This IPS has been a close acquaintance - he never acknowledged my presence even at Harvard (though I met his batchmates of KSG) as he did not while we played street cricket with tennis balls - before either of these guys got married after getting respectable jobs. Neither of us went to IITs. Our school venerated IIT grads. One of my immediate seniors had come second in IIT JEE entrance exam, another came second in AIIMS exam. But not all wanted to become doctors or engineers. Others saw the world in a different light. Some joined family businesses. The IPS guy or myself preferred humanities . He did his entire Indian education from Rajasthan state only before he went to Harvard. I had studied in various states from pre-school onwards. MBA and Univ corruption I had met his wife before he did at their MBA college. He was her senior and had come to deliver talks about how he became an IPS officer. I had met her while meeting my other friend and while preparing groundwork for an educational supplement (with advts) on Management Education in Rajasthan - an article which appeared in Indian Express and Financial Express written by my other friend - which nearly cost him his seat, since on my insistence he highlighted the trend that other MBA institutes were also having good facilities . The Vice Chancellor called angrily at my friend's residence -demanding How dare you? Ofcourse I shouldered responsibility (not that I was ever called upon) and later the Vice Chancellor's office was exposed by our local Indian Express reporters (whom I had explained the situation of How Dare you? ) as taking big bribes while admitting students into medical grad school (pre-PG) and I think CBI enquiry was conducted since the VC and the then Chief Minister were quite close. They perhaps never got round to checking claims that half the MBA students were on there on merit - the rest on backs of their parents prestige/political-clout or money. CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS These issues come back to me perhaps both of my classmates then stayed right across from the above mentioned univ. in govt flats wit their parents. My close friend's father did not get promotion for twenty years because he neither accepted bribes nor gave any upwards - after twenty years the govt woke up and he got rapid promotions and came to the state capital where I met his son while I was in ninth grade. The other classmate was from a well connected family and his father never had to leave the state capital and only had to deal with industrialists as part of his job. I have never ever been inside his house - whether in India or at Harvard . Amartya Sen's class connection etc In India he never asked me to come in - here in US- at Harvard he never responded to an email sent to him by his govt colleague (whom I first met while talking to Nobel Laureate economist Amartya Sen in his class) -cc marked to me. The email congratulated my schoolmate on his son's birth at Harvard. Perhaps because of that he was too busy to meet perhaps the only fellow from his hometown and school there. Maybe it was that in my reply I had mentioned my learning from a mutual school friend (who knew where everyone was) while I was still in India -- that he had joined both Harvard and also MBA from MIT. Perhaps he was waiting for the right moment to break the news --once he was done with all these programs. Now he seems to have broken the radio silence. IITians are geniuses?? It is interesting that perhaps having suffered (like me) that IITians are geniuses and (others are fools) many fools like us are seeking world class degrees - much more prestigious that IITs themselves. Most people think that after marriage and having kids Indians do not venture abroad. The IPS and the friend who called me seem to think that world does not stop for non-IITians even after marriage. Settled life is not an option in a newly globalized and wired (internet) economy - where suddenly you can see on the
