Re: [Assam] Beltola to Dispur

[muktikam phukan]

some unknown hand must've borne the finances of their "liquor" all thru their 
journey to GHY. many of them were reported to be inebriated.


Nayanjyoti Medhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:i live in survey, between 
beltola and dispur where the incident occured. narrowly escaped when i was 
returning home from my chamber at around 1 PM. adivasis started the attack 
without any provocation from the general public. in beltola area when the 
procession was stopped by a magistrate, they beat him up and threw him near a 
drain. they hacked a motorcycle rider with a dao. they snatched a baby from its 
mother and threw him against the road (present condition of the baby not 
known). they then started stonning and beating innocent passerby's, broke shops 
and cars. only after that the public started retaliating. 
   
  but one thing must be said here. most of the adivashis who were 
injured/beaten up are innocent. the culprits were in the front of the 
procession. they atarted the rampage and fled. but the ones who were behind had 
to bear the onslought from the general public. 

 
  On 11/26/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   This is just 
unbelievable!
  
 
  However not everything  in this  report makes ordinary sense. Something is 
missing.  I don't believe Adivasis would have started an attack without some 
provocation from some quarter. Their numbers were not that great for them to 
start such a war deliberately, knowing that they were far from home. 
  
 
  Question is if we will learn the full story and when?

 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  At 5:32 PM -0800 11/25/07, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
  I scoured through several newspapers to get a little more detail on the 
battle in Beltola. The English dailies from Guwahati did not have enough 
English to describe it and the national dailies did not have the room to cover 
it. I found the following website to be of some help. So I am sharing it with 
my NRA netters.   I request the netters from Guwahati to tell us if this 
Assamese newspaper is stating the facts. I'd also like to know who the local 
residents of Beltola (who took part in the battle) are - the non-Assamese 
traders who occupy the streets, the original inhabitants of Beltola, or the 
Assamese middle class who migrated to Guwahati and bought land in the area. 
 http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm Dilip Deka
  
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Re: [Assam] Beltola to Dispur

[muktikam phukan]

some unknown hand must've borne the finances of their "liquor" all thru their 
journey to GHY. many of them were reported to be inebriated.

Nayanjyoti Medhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:i live in survey, between 
beltola and dispur where the incident occured. narrowly escaped when i was 
returning home from my chamber at around 1 PM. adivasis started the attack 
without any provocation from the general public. in beltola area when the 
procession was stopped by a magistrate, they beat him up and threw him near a 
drain. they hacked a motorcycle rider with a dao. they snatched a baby from its 
mother and threw him against the road (present condition of the baby not 
known). they then started stonning and beating innocent passerby's, broke shops 
and cars. only after that the public started retaliating. 
   
  but one thing must be said here. most of the adivashis who were 
injured/beaten up are innocent. the culprits were in the front of the 
procession. they atarted the rampage and fled. but the ones who were behind had 
to bear the onslought from the general public. 

 
  On 11/26/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   This is just 
unbelievable!
  
 
  However not everything  in this  report makes ordinary sense. Something is 
missing.  I don't believe Adivasis would have started an attack without some 
provocation from some quarter. Their numbers were not that great for them to 
start such a war deliberately, knowing that they were far from home. 
  
 
  Question is if we will learn the full story and when?

 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  At 5:32 PM -0800 11/25/07, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
  I scoured through several newspapers to get a little more detail on the 
battle in Beltola. The English dailies from Guwahati did not have enough 
English to describe it and the national dailies did not have the room to cover 
it. I found the following website to be of some help. So I am sharing it with 
my NRA netters.   I request the netters from Guwahati to tell us if this 
Assamese newspaper is stating the facts. I'd also like to know who the local 
residents of Beltola (who took part in the battle) are - the non-Assamese 
traders who occupy the streets, the original inhabitants of Beltola, or the 
Assamese middle class who migrated to Guwahati and bought land in the area. 
 http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm Dilip Deka
  
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Re: [Assam] Beltola to Dispur

[Nayanjyoti Medhi]

i live in survey, between beltola and dispur where the incident occured.
narrowly escaped when i was returning home from my chamber at around 1 PM.
adivasis started the attack without any provocation from the general public.
in beltola area when the procession was stopped by a magistrate, they beat
him up and threw him near a drain. they hacked a motorcycle rider with a
dao. they snatched a baby from its mother and threw him against the road
(present condition of the baby not known). they then started stonning and
beating innocent passerby's, broke shops and cars. only after that the
public started retaliating.

but one thing must be said here. most of the adivashis who were
injured/beaten up are innocent. the culprits were in the front of the
procession. they atarted the rampage and fled. but the ones who were behind
had to bear the onslought from the general public.


On 11/26/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  This is just unbelievable!
>
>
> However not everything  in this  report makes ordinary sense. Something is
> missing.  I don't believe Adivasis would have started an attack without some
> provocation from some quarter. Their numbers were not that great for them to
> start such a war deliberately, knowing that they were far from home.
>
>
> Question is if we will learn the full story and when?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 5:32 PM -0800 11/25/07, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
>
> I scoured through several newspapers to get a little more detail on the
> battle in Beltola. The English dailies from Guwahati did not have enough
> English to describe it and the national dailies did not have the room to
> cover it. I found the following website to be of some help. So I am sharing
> it with my NRA netters.
>
> I request the netters from Guwahati to tell us if this Assamese newspaper
> is stating the facts. I'd also like to know who the local residents of
> Beltola (who took part in the battle) are - the non-Assamese traders who
> occupy the streets, the original inhabitants of Beltola, or the Assamese
> middle class who migrated to Guwahati and bought land in the area.
>
>
>
> http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm
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> Dilip Deka
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[Bartta Bistar]

  http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge/looter.htm Muhammad: A Looter

Stealing and Looting in Islam is not prohibited, unless it is done against
the non-Muslims. Then it is lawful.

After Muhammad married Khadijah, a wealthy woman of Mecca, he stopped
working. Actually he had never worked until the age of twenty five when he
made one trip to Damascus as a trustee of Khadijah selling her goods and
buying what she had ordered.  This was the extent of the work that Muhammad
did in his entire life.

He would not even take care of the children. He used to withdraw to a cave
near Mecca, taking provisions for several days and not come back until his
food lasted. He would then come home for more supplies and head back to his
cave

Khadijah was left to take care of her own three children from her two
previous marriages and also the six children that she made with Muhammad. As
the result, her business suffered and, the family was reduced to poverty. By
the time she died, nothing of her wealth was left and when Muhammad migrated
to Medina, he had to rely on the generosity of the Medinans, including the
Jews whom he exterminated later, for his sustenance.

His followers also were poor. They were either slaves or the disaffected
Meccan youths. His followers of Medina were mostly laborers and journeymen,
serving the Jews and not very well off.

Despite this humble beginning, a few years later, Muhammad became the
wealthiest man in Arabia owning a great number of camels, herds, slaves,
wives and properties. How did he accumulate this much wealth in such short
time? Through  looting and pillaging.

He first started raiding the Meccans' merchant caravans. Then he moved on to
expel and massacre the Jews of Medina and other places in Arabia and looted
their belongings.  Eventually he decreed that every person who believes in
him should pay tithes and those who don't should pay a larger amount as
jizyah  (protection fee) or prepare to die.  They were "warned", submit of
die, very much like the mafia operated. Several verses of the Quran exhort
Muslims to raid the unbelievers promising booty in this world and heavenly
rewards in the other.

Allah promiseth you much booty that ye will capture, and hath given you this
in advance, and hath withheld men's hands from you, that it may be a token
for the believers, and that He may guide you on a right path.  [al-Fath
48:20 ]

And that which Allah gave as spoil unto His messenger from them, ye urged
not any horse or riding-camel for the sake thereof, but Allah giveth His
messenger lordship over whom He will. Allah is Able to do all things.
[al-Hashr 59:6 ]

Now enjoy what ye have won, as lawful and good, and keep your duty to Allah.
Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.  [al-Anfal*
*8:69]


These verses were stated to goad the believers to take part in the wars.
They also tell us about the caliber of the people who converted to Islam.
Muhammad convinced them that God has instructed them to attack innocent
people, take them by surprise, kill them and loot their wives and properties
as booty?

The oppressive cultic atmosphere that reigned in Medina did not allow the
early Muslims to question the morality of such acts. That is how cults
control brainwash the believers. After exterminating the Jews, who owned
most businesses in Medina, Muslims had lost their works. They had no source
of income except through highway robbery and looting.  Some of them might
have wondered how could a messenger of God act like a common marauding
gangster.  For such people Muhammad had his usual answer: It is God's
will.

Jabir b. 'Abdullah al-Ansari reported: The Prophet (may peace be upon him)
said: I have been conferred upon five (things) which were not granted to
anyone before me (and these are): Every apostle was sent particularly to his
own people, whereas I have been sent to all the red and the black *the
spoils of war have been made lawful for me, and these were never made lawful
to anyone before me,* and the earth has been made sacred and pure and
mosque for me, so whenever the time of prayer comes for any one of you he
should pray whenever he is, *and I have been supported by awe* (by which the
enemy is overwhelmed) from the distance (which one takes) one month to cover
and I have been granted intercession.  Sahih Muslim 4:1058

Supported by awe means by terror! In another hadith he was more specific. He
said: "*I have been made victorious with terror *(cast in the hearts of the
enemy), Bukhari
4:52:220
The claim that Muhamamd has been victorious by awe and terror is also stated
in Bukhari 1:7:
331.


There is a hadith narrated Abu Qatada who said:

We set out in t

[Assam] Lincoln's 1st Inaugural Speech excerpts

[umesh sharma]

  http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/1inaug.htm


In your hands, my dissatisfied fellow countrymen, and not in  mine, is the 
momentous issue of civil war. The government will  not assail you. You can have 
no conflict without being yourselves  the aggressors. You have no oath 
registered in Heaven to destroy  the government, while I shall have the most 
solemn one to "preserve,  protect, and defend it."
  I am loath to close. We are not enemies, but friends. We must  not be 
enemies. Though passion may have strained, it must not  break our bonds of 
affection. The mystic chords of memory,  stretching from every battle-field, 
and patriot grave, to every living  heart and hearth-stone, all over this broad 
land, will yet swell the  chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely 
they will be,  by the better angels of our nature.
  Source: Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln, edited by  Roy P. Basler.


Umesh Sharma

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1-202-215-4328 [Cell]

Ed.M. - International Education Policy
Harvard Graduate School of Education,
Harvard University,
Class of 2005

http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info)

http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info)




www.gse.harvard.edu/iep  (where the above 2 are used )
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[Assam] New York Manhole Covers, Forged Barefoot in India - NYT

[Ram Sarangapani]

This from the NYT.

These manhole covers are manufactured at Howrah, Kolkatta, under horrid
conditions - reminds one of Ben Hur, where chained slaves oared Roman ships.
But please also make sure to click on the first link to view a short video.
And this happens in West Bengal, a state, presumably run by Communists, and
looking after the poor worker.

--Ram


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2007/11/21/nyregion/20071126_MANHOLE_FEATURE.html
#

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/26/nyregion/26manhole.html?hp


 November 26, 2007
 New York Manhole Covers, Forged Barefoot in India By HEATHER
TIMMONS and J. ADAM HUGGINS

NEW DELHI — Eight thousand miles from Manhattan, barefoot, shirtless,
whip-thin men rippled with muscle were forging prosaic pieces of the urban
jigsaw puzzle: manhole covers.

Seemingly impervious to the heat from the metal, the workers at one of West
Bengal's many foundries relied on strength and bare hands rather than
machinery. Safety precautions were barely in evidence; just a few pairs of
eye goggles were seen in use on a recent visit. The foundry, Shakti
Industries in Haora, produces manhole covers for Con Edison and New York
City's Department of Environmental Protection, as well as for departments in
New Orleans and Syracuse.

The scene was as spectacular as it was anachronistic: flames, sweat and
liquid iron mixing in the smoke like something from the Middle Ages. That's
what attracted the interest of a photographer who often works for The New
York Times — images that practically radiate heat and illustrate where New
York's manhole covers are born.

When officials at Con Edison — which buys a quarter of its manhole covers,
roughly 2,750 a year, from
India—
were shown the pictures by the photographer, they said they were
surprised.

"We were disturbed by the photos," said Michael S. Clendenin, director of
media relations with Con Edison. "We take worker safety very seriously," he
said.

Now, the utility said, it is rewriting international contracts to include
safety requirements. Contracts will now require overseas manufacturers to
"take appropriate actions to provide a safe and healthy workplace," and to
follow local and federal guidelines in India, Mr. Clendenin said.

At Shakti, street grates, manhole covers and other castings were scattered
across the dusty yard. Inside, men wearing sandals and shorts carried coke
and iron ore piled high in baskets on their heads up stairs to the furnace
feeding room.

On the ground floor, other men, often shoeless and stripped to the waist,
waited with giant ladles, ready to catch the molten metal that came pouring
out of the furnace. A few women were working, but most of the heavy lifting
appeared to be left to the men.

The temperature outside the factory yard was more than 100 degrees on a
September visit. Several feet from where the metal was being poured, the
area felt like an oven, and the workers were slick with sweat.

Often, sparks flew from pots of the molten metal. In one instance they
ignited a worker's lungi, a skirtlike cloth wrap that is common men's wear
in India. He quickly, reflexively, doused the flames by rubbing the burning
part of the cloth against the rest of it with his hand, then continued to
cart the metal to a nearby mold.

Once the metal solidified and cooled, workers removed the manhole cover
casting from the mold and then, in the last step in the production process,
ground and polished the rough edges. Finally, the men stacked the covers and
bolted them together for shipping.

"We can't maintain the luxury of Europe and the United States, with all the
boots and all that," said Sunil Modi, director of Shakti Industries. He
said, however, that the foundry never had accidents. He was concerned about
the attention, afraid that contracts would be pulled and jobs lost.

New York City's Department of Environmental Protection gets most of its
sewer manhole covers from India. When asked in an e-mail message about the
department's source of covers, Mark Daly, director of communications for the
Department of Citywide Administrative Services, said that state law requires
the city to buy the lowest-priced products available that fit its
specifications.

Mr. Daly said the law forbids the city from excluding companies based on
where a product is manufactured.

Municipalities and utility companies often buy their manhole covers through
middlemen who contract with foreign foundries; New York City buys the sewer
covers through a company in Flushing, Queens.

Con Edison said it did not plan to cancel any of its contracts with Shakti
after seeing the photographs, though it has been phasing out Indian-made
manhole covers for several years because of changes in design
specifications.

Manhole covers man

Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dianHigher Education

[Alpana B. Sarangapani]

>Just because these folks --you or I or whoever came to the USA or went to 
>Bilaat or what have you, >does not necessarily mean we were EDUCATED. Does it? 
>Education is a bit more 
 
O' C'da. 
 
I did not say "educated", I said got their education, didn't I?
Are you trying to trap me again to something which I had never said? One's 
being educated, that is? :)
 
>you are oblivious of ) come out to be the 'brilliant' products they get to be 
>known as? What percentage >of an Indian school or college
>get that minimum of what could be considered a reasonably rounded "EDUCATION" 
>, never mind well->rounded?
 
I guess I agree with you on this. 
BTW, that (if secondary education in India was better) was my question, not a 
statement. 
 
>outside your sphere of awareness. But  can you enlighten us from your own 
>experiences ? I realize it >was from a distant past as our modern day friends 
>would readily counter. But how 
 
 
>much has it changed, do you have any idea?
 
Not much! And that is why it was a question. :)
 
 
 
 

 




  
 
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like a blade of grass”
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Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:32:44 -0600To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dianHigher Education



Alpana, Alpana, Alpana! When will you ever learn :-)?

Just because these folks --you or I or whoever came to the USA or went to 
Bilaat or what have you, does not necessarily mean we were EDUCATED. Does it? 
Education is a bit more than collecting information or being able to do good 
math. Or did you miss the highlighted points ,made by the writer in that 
Outlook article?


>I thought they say that the standard of secondary school (not college) 
>education in India is higher than >that of many western countries, no?


*** Let us assume for a moment, just to make you feel good, that it is indeed 
so.  Now then if it IS so,
why is India in the shape it is? Or why do Indians in these forums like our 
own, ask the kind of questions they do or make the comments they do? And 
finally how many from a class of  fifty or even a hundred  ( with one teacher 
riding herd  as they have to in many Indian schools; as you are oblivious of ) 
come out to be the 'brilliant' products they get to be known as? What 
percentage of an Indian school or college
get that minimum of what could be considered a reasonably rounded "EDUCATION" , 
never mind well-rounded?

We don't expect you to speak for what you have never seen or experienced that 
goes on outside your sphere of awareness. But  can you enlighten us from your 
own experiences ? I realize it was from a distant past as our modern day 
friends would readily counter. But how much has it changed, do you have any 
idea?








At 12:39 AM -0600 11/23/07, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
Didn't these NRAs get their education in that Indian system itself to begin 
with? Or, did they just grow wings to fly to the US right after they were born 
in Assam/India?  
I thought they say that the standard of secondary school (not college) 
education in India is higher than that of many western countries, no? 
 
"In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble 
like a blade of grass"
- Lakshmana
 
 
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:16:32 
-0600Subject: Re: [Assam] From Outlook India: An Indictment of In dianHigher 
Education.ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P 
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>So at Thanksgiving 2007 after Turkey and Cranberry pudding they should pledge 
>to work out a very well thought out plan to enable Direction to  Purposeful 
>Education  for  all in Oxom now  and  for the Future.>Time and tide waits for 
>no man.
Mukulda:
Nice! . And if we have been asked to work out a plan for Purposeful Education 
for Oxom, then what do you think in your mind it will be. I have a plan what I 
call, Get On Demand Plan. You get whatever you demand. I call it the GOD plan 
imagining that money is not the problem (which probably is a fact for Oxom), 
that is what we would ask GOD to give for Oxom.
 
Let us discuss what such a Purposeful Education System would be for Oxom or 
rather the North East?
 
Rajen
 
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 7:59 PM
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Education

"Education" is what brought many Assamnetters to where they are.They  surely 
want their old country folk to be properly educated to do something better-live 
better-healthier-happier-more useful to the world/humanity.So at Thanksgiving 
2007 after Turkey and Cranberry pudding they sh

[Assam] Mahanta in a spot

[Nava Thakuria]

http://saharatime.com/NewsDetail.aspx?newsid=3162


Mahanta in a spot
  
The indictment of Prafulla Kumar Mahanta for his role in the secret killings of 
close relatives of ULFA (United Liberation Front of Assam) leaders during 1998 
to 2001 did not come as surprise. Hence, when Justice (retired) KN Saikia 
commission of Inquiry on secret killings accused Mahanta – he was the chief 
minister as well as the state home minister during the period – for his role in 
the killings of ULFA kin, there was hardly any doubt about the findings. 
The findings of the Commission led to a debate on whether the ruling Congress 
government can adopt the Commission's report to punish Mahanta and his 
associates, including surrendered ULFA militants, police and army officials, 
who played a role in the sensational killings. 
The issue came to the fore following the tabling of the secret killing reports 
in the state legislative assembly on November 15 by the Tarun Gogoi-led 
government. Constituted by the present government on August 22, 2005, the 
Saikia Commission accused Mahnata, who held the portfolio of home during his 
second tenure (1996-2001), saying, "There is enough evidence to show that the 
then home minister was at the helm of these extra-constitutional killings." 
In fact, the Asom Gana Parishad (AGP), which was formed after the culmination 
of the Assam agitation in 1985, had swept the 1985 assembly polls in the state 
and Mahanta became the chief minister of Asom in the same year. The regional 
party however couldn't continue its hold on voters in the next assembly polls 
and the Congress party came back to power in Dispur. The AGP bounced back to 
power for the second time in 1996 and Mahanta was the unanimous choice for the 
chief minister's post. This time, he kept the home portfolio with him as well. 
The greatest challenge for Mahanta (both as the chief and home minister during 
his tenure) emerged in the form of the disruptive activities of the ULFA 
militants. The armed group was active in almost all parts of the state during 
this period. Frustrated with the relentless unruly activities of ULFA, Mahanta 
decided to tackle the issue of insurgency with iron hands. 
He presumably adopted the policy of KPS Gill (the former Punjab super cop) to 
deal with the armed groups in a 'tit for tat' strategy. The Gill strategy, that 
arguably claims success in controlling the Punjab terrorism, says if the armed 
groups continues killing common people, make arrangement to assassinate the 
family members (or closed relatives) of the outfit leaders, so that they can 
too realize the pain of losing somebody in the family. 
During 1998-2001, unidentified gunmen killed many family members and relatives 
of ULFA leaders in Asom. The victims included the family members of ULFA's 
political chief Arabinda Rajkhowa and the outfit's publicity secretary Mithinga 
Daimary. The issue shook the conscience of the people and it finally resulted 
in rejecting the regional party (AGP) in the 2001 polls, where the Congress 
regained power and formed the government under the leadership of Gogoi. 
The Saikia commission also indicted the Army and pointed out that the 
assailants in each of the assassinations, which were probed by it, were armed 
with sophisticated weapons of prohibited bores normally used by the police and 
security personnel only. The commission in its report specifically said, "That 
the army was ubiquitous. By army we mean the armed forces of the Union deployed 
in Assam in aid of civil power." 
The commission found many common characteristics in all the examined cases like 
each killing involved the ULFA leader's family members or relatives, almost all 
the killings were committed at dead of night and the assailants spoke Asomiya 
language, the assailants were armed with sophisticated firearms, the vehicles 
were mostly Maruti Gypsies and Vans without registration numbers, there were 
police patrolling in the areas before and after the incidents but not during 
the incidents, the investigation was not commensurate with the seriousness of 
the crime, that modern scientific methods of investigation were never used, the 
government did not condole the deaths and no compensation was paid to the 
families of the victims etc. 
The first commission to probe the killings of ULFA kin was headed by a former 
Guwahati high court judge, but the judge Meera Sarma expressed inability to 
continue and hence it was dismissed. The second commission headed by Justice JN 
Sharma, in its interim report revealed that it did not acquire enough evidence 
against Mahanta. The Tarun Gogoi cabinet termed it inconclusive. However, the 
government had to submit both the reports (JN Sharma and KN Saikia) in the 
assembly following the order of Gauhati high court. 
The Saikia commission has meanwhile received accolades from various 
organizations including the students' bodies and rights group. Two powerful 
students organizations namely All Assa

Re: [Assam] Mischief afoot

[Alpana B. Sarangapani]

With all due respect, Hazarika, the incident Did happen. While we are thankful 
to the Almighty that nothing happened to your part of the city, it was a safety 
issue for many. In fact, one of my friends' brother's car was broken and 
(burnt?) into pieces. 
 
While I understand everybody is entitled to her opinion and also that I am not 
upto the level to teach or preach anyone, but to me, Mr. Dutta (and also was 
Umesh Sharma) was sort of like a messenger who regularly forwards newspaper 
clippings to this list, rather than being someone who spreaded canard.
 
Regards,
- Alpana
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


 
 
 

“In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble 
like a blade of grass”
- Lakshmana
 
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: assam@assamnet.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:14:28 
+0530Subject: [Assam] Mischief afoot


Pradip Kumar Dutta is very fast in spreading canard.The incident was a highly 
localised one. Only around Beltola tiniali to Dispur. Curfew was declared only 
on that stretch not on the city. In fact only one death has been announced, and 
that too in the hospital, so far. The clashes did not spread to Khanapara area 
as stated. My elder brother who stays behind GNRC, and my elder sister who 
stays on the road behind the MLA hostel did not feel any thing at all though 
the happenings took place within a km of their residence.The whole thing is 
very very unfortunate. I am sure the AASA leaders never thought it would go out 
of hand.Also there has been maturity on part of the AASA leaders that they have 
not talked about retaliation. Though the Telegraph sys that there would be a 36 
hr Assam bandh on Monday, no other paper says so.It is no use blowing things 
out of proportion or indulge in blame game. The spark has to be nipped in the 
bud. I am aware of many people who got injured trying to prevent some people 
whose shops were vanadlised becoming vey violent and bent on retaliation. 
Everyone should reach out with balms of love and our century old tradition. At 
our Institute, TCS was having interviews and till 2.00 pm we were not aware of 
anything till there was a message from TCS Calcutta office asking the TCS 
personnel to come back to Calcutta immediately because of riots in Guwahati. As 
such they were catching the 4.30 flight from Guwahati and their interview had 
finifhsed so they went to the airport by 2.15 pm. Then we found that the 
national networks of the tv chnnels were cooking up stories sitting on their 
studios and playing on the visuals being sent from Guwahati. As an Guwahatian I 
am more angry at the media than ashamed of what has happened here.

Shantikam Hazarika
Director, 
Assam Institute of Management
PO Box 30, GUWAHATI 781001, India
HOME PAGE: www.aimguwahati.edu.in 


Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:13:56 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
assam@assamnet.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Assam] Group clash in the Guwahati city: 12 killed, curfew 
in city
Group clash in the Guwahati city: 12 killed, curfew in city 

By Editor on 24 November, 2007 14:43:00  
 
 

A string of group clash that leaves twelve people dead, as many as one hundred 
people injured has forced the authority to clamp curfew in the city on 
Saturday. The condition of thirty is reported to be critical.The violence began 
as soon as the Advasi people in large numbers were holding a rally demanding 
Scheduled Tribe status for the community.The Adivasi protesters damaged as many 
as 150 vehicles while these were plying in the Beltola areas. Moreover, some of 
them vandalized some shops and markets in the area.The angry people in general 
retaliated by attack and the clash left 5 people to death.The city police 
sprung into action and dispersed the Adivasi people from the protest rally 
site. But another group further proceeded to the Khanapara areas and then to 
Ganeshguri areas to stop the city buses. The public in general got angry with 
these Adivasi students leaders and retaliated with attack. As many as ten 
Adivasi students have fallen injured. The injured people have been rushed to 
the hospital. The entire Beltola area has come under curfew from 12 noon. The 
over all situation has yet to be quelled.
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Re: [Assam] IIT-complex => MIT, Harvard etc - an international resignation

[Alpana B. Sarangapani]

But that was Mr. Chiplunkar's choice after what happened to his wife and son. 
Earthly/material things did not matter to him anymore. He didn't see a reason 
to earn money utilizing his IIT degree.
 
With all due respect, his preference to lead his life had nothing to do with 
his degree from the IIT.  He renounced the worldly pleasure. 


 

 
 
 
“In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble 
like a blade of grass”
- Lakshmana
 
 
 


Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:24:12 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
assam@assamnet.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Assam] IIT-complex => MIT, Harvard 
etc - an international resignation
The news story below should help dispel the myth that all IITians are 
successful and a degree from an IIT makes one invincible. Even Umesh may take 
his words back.
I saw the news in the TOI.
Dilip
=Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
Hi Umesh:.   And that IIT envy and your years of 
struggle to demolish it with a Harvard degree and really bury it with time in 
the US, does not seem to be working too well. Do you want to know why? I will 
be delighted to help out--just  let me know.c-da
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PUNE: His dishevelled looks and state of penury would barely ensure a second 
glance from passers-by near Sarasbaugh, where this 57-year-old man was seen 
begging for alms for over a year now. It was his habit of reading English 
newspapers on the footpath that caught the eye of a couple of roadside vendors. 
Inquiries by vendors and morning walkers led to the shocking revelation about 
the man’s identity as Prafulla Madhav Chiplunkar, grandson of great freedom 
fighters Vishnushastri Chiplunkar and Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, and an IIT 
Delhi graduate. Yes, life can be full of surprises and Prafulla’s story is an 
example. While his illustrious lineage stands confirmed by close relatives, the 
latter also revealed that addiction to liquor has played a part in driving 
Prafulla to his current state. “Life took everything from me in 2002. My wife 
Sureeporn and son Suprabhat were killed in a car accident in Thailand. 
Following this incident, there was no need to earn money and there was no goal, 
so I decided to start living on footpath,” Chiplunkar said. When asked about 
his relatives in the city, Chiplunkar said, “I got married to a Thai girl and 
faced the ire of my family members. I never saw them in my happy days, and I 
can’t go to them in this adverse condition.” His present condition came to 
light a few days ago, when two sunglass vendors observed that a clean shaven 
man was living on footpath and reading English newspaper everyday. They 
reported to some local groups, who informed Sanjay Dhongade of Dhankawadi 
village. At present Sanjay and his wife Sangeeta are taking care of Chiplunkar. 
About his maternal grandfather Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, Chiplunkar said, “I 
have played in his lap and was with him for the first 16 years of my life.” But 
he never saw his paternal grandfather Vishnu Shashtri Chiplunkar, he added. 
Chiplunkar was born in Mumbai and studied in Delhi before joining IIT, Delhi. 
“I did my chemical engineering degree from IIT, Delhi with B-I grade in 1971,” 
he said adding that he got a job in a Gwalior-based company. 
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Re: [Assam] Beltola to Dispur

[Chan Mahanta]

This is just unbelievable!

However not everything  in this  report makes ordinary sense. 
Something is missing.  I don't believe Adivasis would have started an 
attack without some provocation from some quarter. Their numbers were 
not that great for them to start such a war deliberately, knowing 
that they were far from home.


Question is if we will learn the full story and when?










At 5:32 PM -0800 11/25/07, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
I scoured through several newspapers to get a little more detail on 
the battle in Beltola. The English dailies from Guwahati did not 
have enough English to describe it and the national dailies did not 
have the room to cover it. I found the following website to be of 
some help. So I am sharing it with my NRA netters.
I request the netters from Guwahati to tell us if this Assamese 
newspaper is stating the facts. I'd also like to know who the local 
residents of Beltola (who took part in the battle) are - the 
non-Assamese traders who occupy the streets, the original 
inhabitants of Beltola, or the Assamese middle class who migrated to 
Guwahati and bought land in the area.


http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm

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Re: [Assam] Beltola to Dispur

[mc mahant]

Beltola, or the Assamese middle class who migrated to Guwahati  . 
Govt says1 dead. Some papers=12. Others=40+
It seems these started first with bows/arrows/stones like AADEEM humanoids.
mm


Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:32:25 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: [Assam] Beltola to Dispur
I scoured through several newspapers to get a little more detail on the battle 
in Beltola. The English dailies from Guwahati did not have enough English to 
describe it and the national dailies did not have the room to cover it. I found 
the following website to be of some help. So I am sharing it with my NRA 
netters.
I request the netters from Guwahati to tell us if this Assamese newspaper is 
stating the facts. I'd also like to know who the local residents of Beltola 
(who took part in the battle) are - the non-Assamese traders who occupy the 
streets, the original inhabitants of Beltola, or the Assamese middle class who 
migrated to Guwahati and bought land in the area.
 
http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm
 
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Re: [Assam] : "Group clash in the city: 12 killed, curfew in city"

[mc mahant]

Question is what now? Is > there a solution?>
Obvious and only workable one is : India  disengages- and PRANTS take over,I 
defined HOW.
mm
> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:55:06 -0600> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> assam@assamnet.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]; assam@assamnet.org> Subject: Re: [Assam] : "Group clash in the 
> city: 12 killed, curfew in city"> > Thanks much for clearing the name issue 
> up Baruah.> > Now about the issue that created the riots: From the sounds of 
> it, > the issue has been brewing for some time and it is unlikely to be the > 
> last, never mind what our fellow caste Oxomiyas may think of it. If I > am 
> not mistaken, it is an issue very similar to the one in Rajasthan > from a 
> few months back, which ended up in shutting down of Delhi and > many deaths.> 
> > Personally I am quite ignorant of the brewing discontent among the > "Tea 
> Community", a major constituency of the ruling Congress Party if > I am not 
> mistaken. Could that have been the cause of the police's > unwillingness to 
> help maintain order among the protesters, until it > went out of hand? Not 
> that it is unique to this political party and > is the widely prevalent norm 
> all over India. Question is what now? Is > there a solution? The Adivasis' 
> demands are neither unique nor > unexpected, given how India has dealt with ( 
> or more precisely -- > avoided dealing with ) it over the decades. I remember 
> a similar > demand from the Ahom community as well from some time back. Is 
> that > now dormant ?> > Any thoughts?> > Best.> > m> > > > > > > > > At 9:50 
> AM -0500 11/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> >Dear Mahanta,> >> >Young 
> activists of what is sometimes called the ?tea community? -- > >the 
> descendants of tea workers in Assam ? prefer the term Adivasi to > >describe 
> their community. The term seeks to emphasize their roots in > >Jharkhand and 
> other parts of India from where their forefathers had > >migrated more than a 
> century ago. Adivasi activists point out that > >since their ethnic kin in 
> their original habitats are recognized as > >scheduled tribes they should 
> have the same status in Assam. There > >are now organizations like Adivasi 
> Cobra Force, Birsa Commando Force > >? named after an Adivasi hero ? and 
> Adivasi Suraksha Samiti (Adivasi > >Protection Committee).> >> >Good wishes,> 
> >> >Sanjib> >> >> >> >Quoting Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> >> >>Hello 
> Hazarika:> >>> >>While I appreciate your clarifying what actually took place 
> and how a> >>SECTION of the media presented it, I must come to Umesh's 
> defense here.> >>He merely forwarded what others already posted, namely 
> Assamtimes> >>.org. Umesh and other Assam lovers merely attempt to spread 
> word of> >>trouble, not so much to malign Assam, but to make sure good people 
> get> >>involved to stem the tide of bad happenings. Verifying the facts 
> before> >>spreading the word is not Umesh's responsibility, just like it is 
> not> >>of other netters who love to forward all kinds of stuff that fit 
> their> >>personal political needs. In that Umesh is just another innocent> 
> >>bystander doing what he does best. I know I give him a hard time over> 
> >>many things, but on this count I won't gang up on him.> >>> >>I have a 
> request here. What can you tell us about what the term> >>includes? Is this 
> an euphemism used by the Indian press ( from outside> >>Assam) for Santhals , 
> Tea Garden Laborers and other groups from> >>Central/ north India etc. who 
> have lived long in Assam and are called> >>that historically? Or does it mean 
> indigenous people of Assam like> >>Karbis, Bodos, Misings and the like?> >>> 
> >>At any event why did the Adivasi's have to take to the streets ?> 
> >>Obviously the government has not responded to their demands, would be> >>my 
> conclusion. Are their demands for getting special treatment devised> >>by 
> democratic India for other groups unreasonable and/or unfair? Do> >>the 
> caste-Hindu immigrants who rule the state, people like yourself or> >>myself, 
> oppose it? And if so, why? Is it fair or reasonable, in view of> >>the 
> prevailing Indian system of sharing the spoils?> >>> >>Also, why do you think 
> the police not take appropriate and timely> >>action to allow an orderly 
> protest march, and by their delay and> >>inaction allowed it to degenerate 
> into a riot resulting in loss of> >>lives ? Is it a typical ineptitude of the 
> police in general or a> >>failure of its leadership ? Or was the inaction 
> and/or inappropriate> >>response a result of political interference, typical 
> or otherwise?> >>> >>Finally, to your knowledge, what exactly happened that 
> turned the march> >>into a riot? Did the protesters get unruly by themselves 
> and started to> >>damage public property angering the victims as the 
> assamtimes report> >>indicated? Or were their acts of incitement from the 
> public or the> >>storekee

[Assam] Beltola to Dispur

[Dilip/Dil Deka]

I scoured through several newspapers to get a little more detail on the battle 
in Beltola. The English dailies from Guwahati did not have enough English to 
describe it and the national dailies did not have the room to cover it. I found 
the following website to be of some help. So I am sharing it with my NRA 
netters.
  I request the netters from Guwahati to tell us if this Assamese newspaper is 
stating the facts. I'd also like to know who the local residents of Beltola 
(who took part in the battle) are - the non-Assamese traders who occupy the 
streets, the original inhabitants of Beltola, or the Assamese middle class who 
migrated to Guwahati and bought land in the area.
   
  http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm
   
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Re: [Assam] IIT-complex => MIT, Harvard etc - an international resignation

[Dilip/Dil Deka]

The news story below should help dispel the myth that all IITians are 
successful and a degree from an IIT makes one invincible. Even Umesh may take 
his words back.
  I saw the news in the TOI.
  Dilip
  =

Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   
  Hi Umesh:
.   And that IIT envy and your years of struggle to 
demolish it with a Harvard degree and really bury it with time in the US, does 
not seem to be working too well. Do you want to know why? I will be delighted 
to help out--just  let me know.
c-da
  =
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15 Jan 2007, 1319 hrs IST,TNN

PUNE: His dishevelled looks and state of penury would barely 
ensure a second glance from passers-by near Sarasbaugh, where this 57-year-old 
man was seen begging for alms for over a year now. It was his habit of reading 
English newspapers on the footpath that caught the eye of a couple of roadside 
vendors. 

Inquiries by vendors and morning walkers led to the shocking revelation about 
the man’s identity as Prafulla Madhav Chiplunkar, grandson of great freedom 
fighters Vishnushastri Chiplunkar and Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, and an IIT 
Delhi graduate. 

Yes, life can be full of surprises and Prafulla’s story is an example. While 
his illustrious lineage stands confirmed by close relatives, the latter also 
revealed that addiction to liquor has played a part in driving Prafulla to his 
current state. 

“Life took everything from me in 2002. My wife Sureeporn and son Suprabhat were 
killed in a car accident in Thailand. Following this incident, there was no 
need to earn money and there was no goal, so I decided to start living on 
footpath,” Chiplunkar said. 

When asked about his relatives in the city, Chiplunkar said, “I got married to 
a Thai girl and faced the ire of my family members. I never saw them in my 
happy days, and I can’t go to them in this adverse condition.” 

His present condition came to light a few days ago, when two sunglass vendors 
observed that a clean shaven man was living on footpath and reading English 
newspaper everyday. They reported to some local groups, who informed Sanjay 
Dhongade of Dhankawadi village. At present Sanjay and his wife Sangeeta are 
taking care of Chiplunkar. 

About his maternal grandfather Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, Chiplunkar said, “I 
have played in his lap and was with him for the first 16 years of my life.” But 
he never saw his paternal grandfather Vishnu Shashtri Chiplunkar, he added. 

Chiplunkar was born in Mumbai and studied in Delhi before joining IIT, Delhi. 
“I did my chemical engineering degree from IIT, Delhi with B-I grade in 1971,” 
he said adding that he got a job in a Gwalior-based company. 


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[Assam] " Group clash in the city: 12 killed,curfew in city"

[kamal deka]

   Chandanda, Here is an article,written by HK Deka,which you may find
relevent. The North-East: fragments and invention of a metaphor

---
*In 1972, the map of Assam changed and a whole became fragments. The country
had to invent a new metaphor to give the new map a new image in the process
of cutting it into parts and then re-joining it into a whole. That
metaphorical image was of seven sisters. But to understand the compulsion
behind this act of dismemberment and re-suturing, we need to peep into its
development in the political history of Assam following independence. * *In
1947 too, there was a change in its map. It lost Sylhet to Pakistan, the
largest and most populous district of the British province of Assam. But in
the rest of the province (which became a state under the Constitution of
independent India), no change was affected except transfer of some land
(which was in the plains) from the frontier tract which consisted of hills.
Interestingly, the exclusionary policy of the British in respect of the
hills was not abandoned by the new nation-state but the emphasis was
different. The sixth schedule of the Constitution served the purpose of the
excluded and partially excluded areas. What Nehru said in his address to the
opening session of the Scheduled Tribes and Scheduled Area's Conference at
New Delhi in June 1952 throws some light on the purpose of giving the
north-eastern hill tribes a separate status under the Constitution. It was
not to 'allow them to be engulfed by the masses of Indian humanity' and not
to make them 'anthropological specimens'. The North-East Frontier Tract
remained under direct charge of the Central Government through the governor
though it was considered a part of Assam. Provisions were made for the Assam
hill district to have autonomous councils to enable the tribes to
participate in democratic process and local self governance. These were
constituted except in Naga Hills where a demand for independence grew and
where resistance against a council set up was strong. However, there were
problems regarding fund and this caused discontent amongst the emerging
tribal leadership. On the other hand, many Assam leaders like Rohini Kumar
Choudhury and Kuladhar Chaliha were opposed to the move and asked for
immediate integration of these areas with the rest of the country. Nehru's
fear was not unjustified. There was a possibility that sudden opening of the
living space of these communities to those with whom they had very little
social contact and who had different cultural life could have caused fear
and anxiety. It would have been like confronting an alien culture as the
British officials, by a deliberate design, kept these cultures apart. On the
other hand, this protective arrangement appears to have been taken too far
by the Government of Independent India at a time it sought to build a united
nation from the varieties of its cultural life. As a result, the leadership
in both areas could never gain the precious experience of working together
in governance. Another unexplainable arrangement was made in respect of the
North-East Frontier Tract, later called North East Frontier Agency
(presently called Arunachal Pradesh). The area was placed under the External
Affairs Ministry as if it was not a 'home' territory of the emerging Indian
nation. The only explanation was that Jawaharlal Nehru wanted to pay
personal attention to the area and the external ministry was under his
charge. This tract being a frontier with China and China's territorial
intention becoming clearer day by day, its placing under the home ministry
was necessary even as a political posture against china's emerging claim.
Nehru's desire to give personal attention to the region was hardly fulfilled
if we look at the state of development there during his time. It was
because, Nehru, despite his immense sympathy for the area as borne out by
copious notes and letters he wrote that are on record, was much preoccupied
with events elsewhere in the country. His growing involvement in
international affairs also must have taken his attention away. Moreover, in
those days Nehru appeared to have been more concerned about the integration
of the remote north-east region than its economic development as borne out
by his remark, "thus they (the people of the frontier areas) lack the
feeling of oneness with the rest of India or the Indian people and are
distinctly afraid that their small numbers will be swamped by others…,apart
from suffering economically." On this aspect, his feeling was that removal
of the 'fear and apprehension from their mind' was of the first priority.
'How to make them feel at one with India' was so important that ' everything
else is subordinate to this, even economic betterment, although that is
highly important.'( Documents On North-East India vol 4 edited by
S.K.Sharmaand Usha Sharma,,2006, page288, from JN collection, note,
Shillong, 19
October,1952, h

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Re: [Assam] : "Group clash in the city: 12 killed, curfew in city"

[Chan Mahanta]

Dear Baruah:

I understand and agree. However, that would not see an end to it, no 
matter how many or who outside this community agree it is not a 
reasonable demand, particularly in view of the fact that India has 
created this system of spoils for groups of people; be they genuinely 
worthy of such special entitlements or be it for political expediency 
or merely seeking easy solutions to complex problems thru what is 
little more than group bribery. It is very similar to the creation of 
new states by Dilli that have no means to sustain themselves, and 
thus forever indentured to Dilli's handouts that you explained so 
well in more than one of your books. So how will it be resolved, be 
it in Assam or be it in Rajasthan or be it elsewhere?  Do you see any 
move on the part of Indian policy makers or among its intelligentsia 
on putting brakes on this expectation if not eradicate it altogether? 
My guess is that there have been no such move, for we would have 
heard of it if there were. So should we brace for more agitation and 
perhaps violence that is bound to follow? Where does the buck stop, 
woyuld be the big question here.

m







At 12:14 PM -0500 11/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Dear Mahanta,
>
>In a way the adivasi demand may not be unexpected, but quite 
>extraordinary. I have said the following about this demand in one of 
>my publications:
>
>Seen through the prism of the global political economy, the 
>migration of Santhals as indentured labour to the tea plantations of 
>Assam was part of the same nineteenth century migration that took 
>Indian labor to plantations in various parts of the British Empire, 
>such as Fiji, Guyana, Mauritius or South Africa. Whether a person 
>landed in a plantation of Assam or in Guyana, Fiji or Mauritius was 
>quite accidental.
>
>India today celebrates its diaspora. Since January 2003 India has 
>begun honoring descendants of migrants to far-away shores, some who 
>had even risen to become heads of governments of their countries. 
>But the Santhals in Assam -- descendants of those who remained 
>within the borders of postcolonial India -- have gone through a 
>vastly different experience.  They are now seeking designation as 
>scheduled tribes.
>
>Whatever the transformed modern meaning of the term ?tribe? in 
>India, viewed through the lenses of global economic history, efforts 
>to claim tribal status by a community that had provided the muscle 
>for the nineteenth century capitalist transformation of Assam, 
>nearly a century and half after their forefathers had left their 
>original habitat, is quite extraordinary.  That people from this 
>ethnic background could be physically displaced today as outsiders 
>-- as a result of another historically disadvantaged indigenous 
>group?s demand for an ethnic homeland -- no matter how tragic the 
>story of the latter?s immiserization, is symptomatic of a crisis of 
>citizenship in democratic India.
>
>Good wishes,
>
>SB
>
>
>
>
>Quoting Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>Thanks much for clearing the name issue up Baruah.
>>
>>Now about the issue that created the riots: From the sounds of it, the
>>issue has been brewing for some time and it is unlikely to be the last,
>>never mind what our fellow caste Oxomiyas may think of it. If I am not
>>mistaken, it is an issue very similar to the one in Rajasthan from a
>>few months back, which ended up in shutting down of Delhi and many
>>deaths.
>>
>>Personally I am quite ignorant of the brewing discontent among the "Tea
>>Community", a major constituency of the ruling Congress Party if I am
>>not mistaken.  Could that have been the cause of the police's
>>unwillingness to help maintain order among the protesters, until it
>>went out of hand? Not that it is unique to this political party and is
>>the widely prevalent norm all over India. Question is what now? Is
>>there a solution? The Adivasis' demands are neither unique nor
>>unexpected, given how India has dealt with ( or more precisely --
>>avoided dealing with ) it over the decades. I remember a similar demand
>>from the Ahom community as well from some time back. Is that now
>>dormant ?
>>
>>Any thoughts?
>>
>>Best.
>>
>>m
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 9:50 AM -0500 11/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>Dear Mahanta,
>>>
>>>Young activists of what is sometimes called the ?tea community? --  
>>>the descendants of tea workers in Assam ? prefer the term Adivasi  
>>>to describe their community. The term seeks to emphasize their  
>>>roots in Jharkhand and other parts of India from where their  
>>>forefathers had migrated more than a century ago. Adivasi 
>>>activists  point out that since their ethnic kin in their original 
>>>habitats  
>>>are recognized as scheduled tribes they should have the same 
>>>status  in Assam. There are now organizations like Adivasi Cobra 
>>>Force,  
>>>Birsa Commando Force ? named after an Adivasi hero ? and Adivasi  
>>>Suraksha Samiti (Adivasi Protection Committee).
>>>
>>>Go

Re: [Assam] : "Group clash in the city: 12 killed, curfew in city"

[baruah]

Dear Mahanta,

In a way the adivasi demand may not be unexpected, but quite  
extraordinary. I have said the following about this demand in one of  
my publications:

Seen through the prism of the global political economy, the migration  
of Santhals as indentured labour to the tea plantations of Assam was  
part of the same nineteenth century migration that took Indian labor  
to plantations in various parts of the British Empire, such as Fiji,  
Guyana, Mauritius or South Africa. Whether a person landed in a  
plantation of Assam or in Guyana, Fiji or Mauritius was quite  
accidental.

India today celebrates its diaspora. Since January 2003 India has  
begun honoring descendants of migrants to far-away shores, some who  
had even risen to become heads of governments of their countries.  But  
the Santhals in Assam -- descendants of those who remained within the  
borders of postcolonial India -- have gone through a vastly different  
experience.  They are now seeking designation as scheduled tribes.

Whatever the transformed modern meaning of the term ?tribe? in India,  
viewed through the lenses of global economic history, efforts to claim  
tribal status by a community that had provided the muscle for the  
nineteenth century capitalist transformation of Assam, nearly a  
century and half after their forefathers had left their original  
habitat, is quite extraordinary.  That people from this ethnic  
background could be physically displaced today as outsiders -- as a  
result of another historically disadvantaged indigenous group?s demand  
for an ethnic homeland -- no matter how tragic the story of the  
latter?s immiserization, is symptomatic of a crisis of citizenship in  
democratic India.

Good wishes,

SB




Quoting Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Thanks much for clearing the name issue up Baruah.
>
> Now about the issue that created the riots: From the sounds of it, the
> issue has been brewing for some time and it is unlikely to be the last,
> never mind what our fellow caste Oxomiyas may think of it. If I am not
> mistaken, it is an issue very similar to the one in Rajasthan from a
> few months back, which ended up in shutting down of Delhi and many
> deaths.
>
> Personally I am quite ignorant of the brewing discontent among the "Tea
> Community", a major constituency of the ruling Congress Party if I am
> not mistaken.  Could that have been the cause of the police's
> unwillingness to help maintain order among the protesters, until it
> went out of hand? Not that it is unique to this political party and is
> the widely prevalent norm all over India. Question is what now? Is
> there a solution? The Adivasis' demands are neither unique nor
> unexpected, given how India has dealt with ( or more precisely --
> avoided dealing with ) it over the decades. I remember a similar demand
> from the Ahom community as well from some time back. Is that now
> dormant ?
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Best.
>
> m
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 9:50 AM -0500 11/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Dear Mahanta,
>>
>> Young activists of what is sometimes called the ?tea community? --   
>> the descendants of tea workers in Assam ? prefer the term Adivasi   
>> to describe their community. The term seeks to emphasize their   
>> roots in Jharkhand and other parts of India from where their   
>> forefathers had migrated more than a century ago. Adivasi activists  
>>  point out that since their ethnic kin in their original habitats   
>> are recognized as scheduled tribes they should have the same status  
>>  in Assam. There are now organizations like Adivasi Cobra Force,   
>> Birsa Commando Force ? named after an Adivasi hero ? and Adivasi   
>> Suraksha Samiti (Adivasi Protection Committee).
>>
>> Good wishes,
>>
>> Sanjib
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>> Hello Hazarika:
>>>
>>> While I appreciate your clarifying what actually took place and how a
>>> SECTION of the media presented it, I must come to Umesh's defense here.
>>> He merely forwarded what  others already posted, namely Assamtimes
>>> .org. Umesh and other Assam lovers merely attempt to spread word of
>>> trouble, not so much to malign Assam, but to make sure good people get
>>> involved to stem the tide of bad happenings. Verifying the facts before
>>> spreading the word is not Umesh's responsibility, just like it is not
>>> of other netters who love to forward all kinds of stuff that fit their
>>> personal political needs. In that Umesh is just another innocent
>>> bystander doing what he does best.  I know I give him a hard time over
>>> many things, but on this count I won't gang up on him.
>>>
>>> I have a request here.  What can you tell us about what the term
>>> includes? Is this an euphemism used by the Indian press ( from outside
>>> Assam) for Santhals , Tea Garden Laborers and other groups from
>>> Central/ north India etc. who have lived long in Assam  and are called
>>> that historically? Or does it mean indigenous peop

Re: [Assam] : "Group clash in the city: 12 killed, curfew in city"

[Chan Mahanta]

Thanks much for clearing the name issue up Baruah.

Now about the issue that created the riots: From the sounds of it, 
the issue has been brewing for some time and it is unlikely to be the 
last, never mind what our fellow caste Oxomiyas may think of it. If I 
am not mistaken, it is an issue very similar to the one in Rajasthan 
from a few months back, which ended up in shutting down of Delhi and 
many deaths.

Personally I am quite ignorant of the brewing discontent among the 
"Tea Community", a major constituency of the ruling Congress Party if 
I am not mistaken.  Could that have been the cause of the police's 
unwillingness to help maintain order among the protesters, until it 
went out of hand? Not that it is unique to this political party and 
is the widely prevalent norm all over India. Question is what now? Is 
there a solution? The Adivasis' demands are neither unique nor 
unexpected, given how India has dealt with ( or more precisely -- 
avoided dealing with ) it over the decades. I remember a similar 
demand from the Ahom community as well from some time back. Is that 
now dormant ?

Any thoughts?

Best.

m








At 9:50 AM -0500 11/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Dear Mahanta,
>
>Young activists of what is sometimes called the ?tea community? -- 
>the descendants of tea workers in Assam ? prefer the term Adivasi to 
>describe their community. The term seeks to emphasize their roots in 
>Jharkhand and other parts of India from where their forefathers had 
>migrated more than a century ago. Adivasi activists point out that 
>since their ethnic kin in their original habitats are recognized as 
>scheduled tribes they should have the same status in Assam. There 
>are now organizations like Adivasi Cobra Force, Birsa Commando Force 
>? named after an Adivasi hero ? and Adivasi Suraksha Samiti (Adivasi 
>Protection Committee).
>
>Good wishes,
>
>Sanjib
>
>
>
>Quoting Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>Hello Hazarika:
>>
>>While I appreciate your clarifying what actually took place and how a
>>SECTION of the media presented it, I must come to Umesh's defense here.
>>He merely forwarded what  others already posted, namely Assamtimes
>>.org. Umesh and other Assam lovers merely attempt to spread word of
>>trouble, not so much to malign Assam, but to make sure good people get
>>involved to stem the tide of bad happenings. Verifying the facts before
>>spreading the word is not Umesh's responsibility, just like it is not
>>of other netters who love to forward all kinds of stuff that fit their
>>personal political needs. In that Umesh is just another innocent
>>bystander doing what he does best.  I know I give him a hard time over
>>many things, but on this count I won't gang up on him.
>>
>>I have a request here.  What can you tell us about what the term
>>includes? Is this an euphemism used by the Indian press ( from outside
>>Assam) for Santhals , Tea Garden Laborers and other groups from
>>Central/ north India etc. who have lived long in Assam  and are called
>>that historically? Or does it mean indigenous people of Assam like
>>Karbis, Bodos, Misings and the like?
>>
>>At any event why did the Adivasi's have to take to the streets ?
>>Obviously the government has not responded to their demands, would be
>>my conclusion. Are their demands for getting special treatment devised
>>by democratic India for other groups  unreasonable and/or unfair? Do
>>the caste-Hindu immigrants who rule the state, people like yourself or
>>myself, oppose it? And if so, why? Is it fair or reasonable, in view of
>>the prevailing Indian system of sharing the spoils?
>>
>>Also, why do you think the police not take appropriate and timely
>>action to allow an orderly protest march, and by their delay and
>>inaction allowed it to degenerate into a riot resulting in loss of
>>lives ? Is it a typical ineptitude of the police  in general or a
>>failure of its leadership ? Or was the inaction and/or inappropriate
>>response a result of political interference, typical or otherwise?
>>
>>Finally, to your knowledge, what exactly happened that turned the march
>>into a riot? Did the protesters get unruly by themselves and started to
>>damage public property angering the victims as the assamtimes report
>>indicated?  Or were their acts of incitement from the public or the
>>storekeepers that caused it?  I am sure there will be demands for a
>>judicial enquiry, the results of which will be either inconclusive or
>>secret and nothing will come out of the effort as countless other such
>>efforts historically have. But we, people like yourselves, myself and
>>others interested would benefit from learning what the truths might
>>have been, even though not officially sanctioned.
>>
>>Thanks in advance for sharing what you may know to be the truths.
>>
>>Best.
>>
>>m
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 1:03 PM +0530 11/25/07, Shantikam Hazarika wrote:
>>>Umesh:
>>>do you not have any other work?
>>>The term Adivasi is 

Re: [Assam] : "Group clash in the city: 12 killed, curfew in city"

[kamal deka]

The term Adivasi,Bonovasi or Gramvasi are used interchangeably in India.
KJD


On 11/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear Mahanta,
>
> Young activists of what is sometimes called the ?tea community? -- the
> descendants of tea workers in Assam ? prefer the term Adivasi to
> describe their community. The term seeks to emphasize their roots in
> Jharkhand and other parts of India from where their forefathers had
> migrated more than a century ago. Adivasi activists point out that
> since their ethnic kin in their original habitats are recognized as
> scheduled tribes they should have the same status in Assam. There are
> now organizations like Adivasi Cobra Force, Birsa Commando Force ?
> named after an Adivasi hero ? and Adivasi Suraksha Samiti (Adivasi
> Protection Committee).
>
> Good wishes,
>
> Sanjib
>
>
>
> Quoting Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Hello Hazarika:
> >
> > While I appreciate your clarifying what actually took place and how a
> > SECTION of the media presented it, I must come to Umesh's defense here.
> > He merely forwarded what  others already posted, namely Assamtimes
> > .org. Umesh and other Assam lovers merely attempt to spread word of
> > trouble, not so much to malign Assam, but to make sure good people get
> > involved to stem the tide of bad happenings. Verifying the facts before
> > spreading the word is not Umesh's responsibility, just like it is not
> > of other netters who love to forward all kinds of stuff that fit their
> > personal political needs. In that Umesh is just another innocent
> > bystander doing what he does best.  I know I give him a hard time over
> > many things, but on this count I won't gang up on him.
> >
> > I have a request here.  What can you tell us about what the term
> > includes? Is this an euphemism used by the Indian press ( from outside
> > Assam) for Santhals , Tea Garden Laborers and other groups from
> > Central/ north India etc. who have lived long in Assam  and are called
> > that historically? Or does it mean indigenous people of Assam like
> > Karbis, Bodos, Misings and the like?
> >
> > At any event why did the Adivasi's have to take to the streets ?
> > Obviously the government has not responded to their demands, would be
> > my conclusion. Are their demands for getting special treatment devised
> > by democratic India for other groups  unreasonable and/or unfair? Do
> > the caste-Hindu immigrants who rule the state, people like yourself or
> > myself, oppose it? And if so, why? Is it fair or reasonable, in view of
> > the prevailing Indian system of sharing the spoils?
> >
> > Also, why do you think the police not take appropriate and timely
> > action to allow an orderly protest march, and by their delay and
> > inaction allowed it to degenerate into a riot resulting in loss of
> > lives ? Is it a typical ineptitude of the police  in general or a
> > failure of its leadership ? Or was the inaction and/or inappropriate
> > response a result of political interference, typical or otherwise?
> >
> > Finally, to your knowledge, what exactly happened that turned the march
> > into a riot? Did the protesters get unruly by themselves and started to
> > damage public property angering the victims as the assamtimes report
> > indicated?  Or were their acts of incitement from the public or the
> > storekeepers that caused it?  I am sure there will be demands for a
> > judicial enquiry, the results of which will be either inconclusive or
> > secret and nothing will come out of the effort as countless other such
> > efforts historically have. But we, people like yourselves, myself and
> > others interested would benefit from learning what the truths might
> > have been, even though not officially sanctioned.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for sharing what you may know to be the truths.
> >
> > Best.
> >
> > m
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 1:03 PM +0530 11/25/07, Shantikam Hazarika wrote:
> >> Umesh:
> >> do you not have any other work?
> >> The term Adivasi is a north Indian term, not prevalent in Assam and
> >> the fact that the Association is called Adivasi Association indicates
> >> who are the people fomenting trouble in Assam. And, sitting out there
> >> you ought to have waited for the facts to filter before taking the
> >> easy way out of posting a dubious news item on the net to misled
> >> others.
> >>
> >> One of the problem was that the police took a long time to get into
> >> action and the statement in the news that "city police sprung into
> >> action and dispersed the Adivasi people from the
> >> protest rally site" is not true. In fact the frequent use of the term
> >> Adivasi in the news item itself is mischievous, with the intent of
> >> creating a divide.
> >> Sitting in the comforts of the US, please at least try to do something
> >> constructive, instead of spreading canards. I never expected you to
> >> indulge in such things.
> >> Shantikam Hazarika
>

Re: [Assam] assam Digest, Vol 28, Issue 36/ Group clash in the Guwahati city: 12 killed, curfew in city

[DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS]

  Friends,It is highly regretted drama staged by some political party only to 
have such unwanted sorrowfull incident.
  I was in touch of people living in that area- who are live witness.But the 
fact is why Assam is gradually becoming a place for anyones DEMAND for their 
needs.May be its the Bangladeshi (MULTA)PAMUWA,Bihari,Marowari and now more 
alarming beeline of Nepalis!!!All have now their own union.Needless to say its 
Bengalee Tiger Force to dominate the entire Bodoland area(BTC).EArlier it was 
Amra Bangalee group to kill Assamese.Late they managed to influence the Bodos 
against the Assamese, although the Bengalees never accpeted them to be Assamese 
at any cost since 1832..
  No other state of India has this type of dadagiri for their more rights!The 
long Assam agitation, birth of ULFA and then gradually one by one so many 
outfits and finally at the tim of long AGP rule the AATSA came up.They form 
nothing to the state other than a vote bank and working for ta gardens.What 
facility the garden need give should rest on the Labour commissioner 
only.Already these people got good facility in education scholarship, job 
employments etc.Even its lasting for decades.. while we was school student, we 
saw them with all these benefits- what we never got other than spending and 
standing with own brain and merrit!!!
  The big question is why they did carried weapons once it is banned in 
Assam/NE region, since the entire region  falls under Armed Forces Special 
Powers Act?What made them to come all the way from remote upper Assam area to 
guwahati and instead of Judge field, allowing them to held 10,000 peoples 
strong open meet at a small school near Beltola adjoining Little flower 
school/Survey area?What was their motive?And ironically all of them got down 
from vehicles and immediately instad of helding meeting, started attacking 
homes, shops, vehicles,looting and arsons etc and etc.There was no formal 
meeting.One way it was a well planned attack to dominate Guwahati as if like 
Mughals, by capturing Guwahati they will win the entire Assam as well Govt. of 
Assam will bow down to them for a large compromise!!!
  The local residents were caught unaware- but later when all came to know the 
danger, much before police could realise, the counter attack started.Which is 
well deserved for state like Assam.People lost tolerence- we lost lot many 
lives since 1962 agitations.Hope it was a no more issue.My own uncle who lives 
at that locality was about to be butchered by the tribals.He had a narrow 
escape, although he is a retired Police inspector.The death to might be 
more.But need to find the brain behind all the dirty Assamese politicians- who 
did really plaed this dirty life game.
  It seems Assam is now a heaven for all who wanted to demand anything.lse we 
need to give advertisement to come to Assam and in the name of constitution, 
all should claim their rights.Already we dnt have our own people in all Central 
Govt senior positions.Which is one of the most ugly scne in Assam.Other than 
clerks no other officer are Asamese.Even in state Govt jobs also well occupied 
by Bihari- Bengalis.Whatever recruitment made by Army and Air Force, all 
Bihari-UP and Bengalis are only taken in the name of Assamese.
  Time to think with this Guwahati issue now.Else we are no where.What ever 
left was already killed by Army, BSF and ULFA-
   
  Dr.Bikash Kumar Das
  Bangalore.
   
   
   
   
  Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:13:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Assam] Group clash in the Guwahati city: 12 killed, curfew in city


  Group clash in the Guwahati city: 12 killed, curfew in city By Editor on 
24 November, 2007 14:43:00  

   
   
A string of group clash that leaves twelve people dead, as many as one 
hundred people injured has forced the authority to clamp curfew in the city on 
Saturday. The condition of thirty is reported to be critical.

The violence began as soon as the Advasi people in large numbers were holding a 
rally demanding Scheduled Tribe status for the community.

The Adivasi protesters damaged as many as 150 vehicles while these were plying 
in the Beltola areas. Moreover, some of them vandalized some shops and markets 
in the area.

The angry people in general retaliated by attack and the clash left 5 people to 
death.

The city police sprung into action and dispersed the Adivasi people from the 
protest rally site. But another group further proceeded to the Khanapara areas 
and then to Ganeshguri areas to stop the city buses. 

The public in general got angry with these Adivasi students leaders and 
retaliated with attack. As many as ten Adivasi students have fallen injured. 
The injured people have been rushed to the hospital. 

The entire Beltola area has come under curfew from 12 noon. The over all 
situation has yet to be quelled.
  http://www.assamtimes.org/index.php?news=680

  


Dr.Bikash K. Das
   
-
 Now you can chat without dow

Re: [Assam] : "Group clash in the city: 12 killed, curfew in city"

[baruah]

Dear Mahanta,

Young activists of what is sometimes called the ?tea community? -- the  
descendants of tea workers in Assam ? prefer the term Adivasi to  
describe their community. The term seeks to emphasize their roots in  
Jharkhand and other parts of India from where their forefathers had  
migrated more than a century ago. Adivasi activists point out that  
since their ethnic kin in their original habitats are recognized as  
scheduled tribes they should have the same status in Assam. There are  
now organizations like Adivasi Cobra Force, Birsa Commando Force ?  
named after an Adivasi hero ? and Adivasi Suraksha Samiti (Adivasi  
Protection Committee).

Good wishes,

Sanjib



Quoting Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hello Hazarika:
>
> While I appreciate your clarifying what actually took place and how a
> SECTION of the media presented it, I must come to Umesh's defense here.
> He merely forwarded what  others already posted, namely Assamtimes
> .org. Umesh and other Assam lovers merely attempt to spread word of
> trouble, not so much to malign Assam, but to make sure good people get
> involved to stem the tide of bad happenings. Verifying the facts before
> spreading the word is not Umesh's responsibility, just like it is not
> of other netters who love to forward all kinds of stuff that fit their
> personal political needs. In that Umesh is just another innocent
> bystander doing what he does best.  I know I give him a hard time over
> many things, but on this count I won't gang up on him.
>
> I have a request here.  What can you tell us about what the term
> includes? Is this an euphemism used by the Indian press ( from outside
> Assam) for Santhals , Tea Garden Laborers and other groups from
> Central/ north India etc. who have lived long in Assam  and are called
> that historically? Or does it mean indigenous people of Assam like
> Karbis, Bodos, Misings and the like?
>
> At any event why did the Adivasi's have to take to the streets ?
> Obviously the government has not responded to their demands, would be
> my conclusion. Are their demands for getting special treatment devised
> by democratic India for other groups  unreasonable and/or unfair? Do
> the caste-Hindu immigrants who rule the state, people like yourself or
> myself, oppose it? And if so, why? Is it fair or reasonable, in view of
> the prevailing Indian system of sharing the spoils?
>
> Also, why do you think the police not take appropriate and timely
> action to allow an orderly protest march, and by their delay and
> inaction allowed it to degenerate into a riot resulting in loss of
> lives ? Is it a typical ineptitude of the police  in general or a
> failure of its leadership ? Or was the inaction and/or inappropriate
> response a result of political interference, typical or otherwise?
>
> Finally, to your knowledge, what exactly happened that turned the march
> into a riot? Did the protesters get unruly by themselves and started to
> damage public property angering the victims as the assamtimes report
> indicated?  Or were their acts of incitement from the public or the
> storekeepers that caused it?  I am sure there will be demands for a
> judicial enquiry, the results of which will be either inconclusive or
> secret and nothing will come out of the effort as countless other such
> efforts historically have. But we, people like yourselves, myself and
> others interested would benefit from learning what the truths might
> have been, even though not officially sanctioned.
>
> Thanks in advance for sharing what you may know to be the truths.
>
> Best.
>
> m
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 1:03 PM +0530 11/25/07, Shantikam Hazarika wrote:
>> Umesh:
>> do you not have any other work?
>> The term Adivasi is a north Indian term, not prevalent in Assam and
>> the fact that the Association is called Adivasi Association indicates
>> who are the people fomenting trouble in Assam. And, sitting out there
>> you ought to have waited for the facts to filter before taking the
>> easy way out of posting a dubious news item on the net to misled
>> others.
>>
>> One of the problem was that the police took a long time to get into
>> action and the statement in the news that "city police sprung into
>> action and dispersed the Adivasi people from the
>> protest rally site" is not true. In fact the frequent use of the term
>> Adivasi in the news item itself is mischievous, with the intent of
>> creating a divide.
>> Sitting in the comforts of the US, please at least try to do something
>> constructive, instead of spreading canards. I never expected you to
>> indulge in such things.
>> Shantikam Hazarika
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2007 5:02 AM, umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>> > Newsletter Editor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.assamtimes.org/index.php?news=680
>>>
>>> Group clash in the city: 12 killed, curfew in city
>>>
>>> A string of group clash that leaves twelve people dead, as many as one
>>> hundred peopl

Re: [Assam] : "Group clash in the city: 12 killed, curfew in city"

[uttam borthakur]

Whodunit?
  Who gains?
  Why is NE TV owned by Matang Singh involved in spreading the canard? (Death 
toll has been stated at a high figure though it did not tally with the body 
count, that is what has been told to me by some friends in the media, but I 
cannot vouch for its veracity)
  Is Himanta Biswa Sharma launching his TV channel by 14 December?
  Was there a split among the protestors in a meeting held just before the 
march?
  How is Ajmal involved?
   
  I only make a wild guess. It is a result of the infighting within the ruling 
party. But the victim is always the same. Be it the innocent protesters or the 
people of that locality. As for 'Adivasi', we understand what it conveys. But 
if the use of the word involves conspiracy, then why is there no discussion on 
this point till now? May be I am not aware. 
   
  All said and done, the incident does not augur well for an already decimated 
Assamese people.  

Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Hazarika:
  

  While I appreciate your clarifying what actually took place and how a SECTION 
of the media presented it, I must come to Umesh's defense here. He merely 
forwarded what  others already posted, namely Assamtimes .org. Umesh and other 
Assam lovers merely attempt to spread word of trouble, not so much to malign 
Assam, but to make sure good people get involved to stem the tide of bad 
happenings. Verifying the facts before spreading the word is not Umesh's 
responsibility, just like it is not of other netters who love to forward all 
kinds of stuff that fit their personal political needs. In that Umesh is just 
another innocent bystander doing what he does best.  I know I give him a hard 
time over many things, but on this count I won't gang up on him.
  

  I have a request here.  What can you tell us about what the term includes? Is 
this an euphemism used by the Indian press ( from outside Assam) for Santhals , 
Tea Garden Laborers and other groups from Central/ north India etc. who have 
lived long in Assam  and are called that historically? Or does it mean 
indigenous people of Assam like Karbis, Bodos, Misings and the like?
  

  At any event why did the Adivasi's have to take to the streets ? Obviously 
the government has not responded to their demands, would be my conclusion. Are 
their demands for getting special treatment  devised by democratic India for 
other groups  unreasonable and/or unfair? Do the caste-Hindu immigrants who 
rule the state, people like yourself or myself, oppose it? And if so, why? Is 
it fair or reasonable, in view of the prevailing Indian system of sharing the 
spoils?
  

  Also, why do you think the police not take appropriate and timely action to 
allow an orderly protest march, and by their delay and inaction allowed it to 
degenerate into a riot resulting in loss of lives ? Is it a typical ineptitude 
of the police  in general or a failure of its leadership ? Or was the inaction 
and/or inappropriate response a result of political interference, typical or 
otherwise?
  

  Finally, to your knowledge, what exactly happened that turned the march into 
a riot? Did the protesters get unruly by themselves and started to damage 
public property angering the victims as the assamtimes report indicated?  Or 
were their acts of incitement from the public or the storekeepers that caused 
it?  I am sure there will be demands for a judicial enquiry, the results of 
which will be either inconclusive or secret and nothing will come out of the 
effort as countless other such efforts historically have. But we, people like 
yourselves, myself and others interested would benefit from learning what the 
truths might have been, even though not officially sanctioned.
  

  Thanks in advance for sharing what you may know to be the truths.
  

  Best.
  

  m
  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  At 1:03 PM +0530 11/25/07, Shantikam Hazarika wrote:
  Umesh:
do you not have any other work?
The term Adivasi is a north Indian term, not prevalent in Assam and
the fact that the Association is called Adivasi Association indicates
who are the people fomenting trouble in Assam. And, sitting out there
you ought to have waited for the facts to filter before taking the
easy way out of posting a dubious news item on the net to misled
others.

One of the problem was that the police took a long time to get into
action and the statement in the news that "city police sprung into
action and dispersed the Adivasi people from the
protest rally site" is not true. In fact the frequent use of the term
Adivasi in the news item itself is mischievous, with the intent of
creating a divide.
Sitting in the comforts of the US, please at least try to do something
constructive, instead of spreading canards. I never expected you to
indulge in such things.
Shantikam Hazarika

On Nov 25, 2007 5:02 AM, umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  > Newsletter Editor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www

Re: [Assam] : "Group clash in the city: 12 killed, curfew in city"

[Chan Mahanta]

Hello Hazarika:

While I appreciate your clarifying what actually took place and how a 
SECTION of the media presented it, I must come to Umesh's defense 
here. He merely forwarded what  others already posted, namely 
Assamtimes .org. Umesh and other Assam lovers merely attempt to 
spread word of trouble, not so much to malign Assam, but to make sure 
good people get involved to stem the tide of bad happenings. 
Verifying the facts before spreading the word is not Umesh's 
responsibility, just like it is not of other netters who love to 
forward all kinds of stuff that fit their personal political needs. 
In that Umesh is just another innocent bystander doing what he does 
best.  I know I give him a hard time over many things, but on this 
count I won't gang up on him.


I have a request here.  What can you tell us about what the term 
includes? Is this an euphemism used by the Indian press ( from 
outside Assam) for Santhals , Tea Garden Laborers and other groups 
from Central/ north India etc. who have lived long in Assam  and are 
called that historically? Or does it mean indigenous people of Assam 
like Karbis, Bodos, Misings and the like?


At any event why did the Adivasi's have to take to the streets ? 
Obviously the government has not responded to their demands, would be 
my conclusion. Are their demands for getting special treatment 
devised by democratic India for other groups  unreasonable and/or 
unfair? Do the caste-Hindu immigrants who rule the state, people like 
yourself or myself, oppose it? And if so, why? Is it fair or 
reasonable, in view of the prevailing Indian system of sharing the 
spoils?


Also, why do you think the police not take appropriate and timely 
action to allow an orderly protest march, and by their delay and 
inaction allowed it to degenerate into a riot resulting in loss of 
lives ? Is it a typical ineptitude of the police  in general or a 
failure of its leadership ? Or was the inaction and/or inappropriate 
response a result of political interference, typical or otherwise?


Finally, to your knowledge, what exactly happened that turned the 
march into a riot? Did the protesters get unruly by themselves and 
started to damage public property angering the victims as the 
assamtimes report indicated?  Or were their acts of incitement from 
the public or the storekeepers that caused it?  I am sure there will 
be demands for a judicial enquiry, the results of which will be 
either inconclusive or secret and nothing will come out of the effort 
as countless other such efforts historically have. But we, people 
like yourselves, myself and others interested would benefit from 
learning what the truths might have been, even though not officially 
sanctioned.


Thanks in advance for sharing what you may know to be the truths.

Best.

m


















At 1:03 PM +0530 11/25/07, Shantikam Hazarika wrote:

Umesh:
do you not have any other work?
The term Adivasi is a north Indian term, not prevalent in Assam and
the fact that the Association is called Adivasi Association indicates
who are the people fomenting trouble in Assam. And, sitting out there
you ought to have waited for the facts to filter before taking the
easy way out of posting a dubious news item on the net to misled
others.

One of the problem was that the police took a long time to get into
action and the statement in the news that "city police sprung into
action and dispersed the Adivasi people from the
protest rally site" is not true. In fact the frequent use of the term
Adivasi in the news item itself is mischievous, with the intent of
creating a divide.
Sitting in the comforts of the US, please at least try to do something
constructive, instead of spreading canards. I never expected you to
indulge in such things.
Shantikam Hazarika

On Nov 25, 2007 5:02 AM, umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




 > Newsletter Editor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 http://www.assamtimes.org/index.php?news=680

 Group clash in the city: 12 killed, curfew in city

 A string of group clash that leaves twelve people dead, as many as one
 hundred people injured has forced the authority to clamp curfew in the city
 on Saturday. The condition of thirty is reported to be critical.

 The violence began as soon as the Advasi people in large numbers were
 holding a rally demanding Scheduled Tribe status for the community.

 The Adivasi protesters damaged as many as 150 vehicles while these were
 plying in the Beltola areas. Moreover, some of them vandalized some shops
 and markets in the area.

 The angry people in general retaliated by attack and the clash left 5 people
 to death.

 The city police sprung into action and dispersed the Adivasi people from the
 protest rally site. But another group further proceeded to the Khanapara
 areas and then to Ganeshguri areas to stop the city buses.

 The public in general got angry with these Adivasi students leaders and
 retaliated with attack. As many as ten Adivasi students have fallen inj

[Assam] FW: [WaterWatch] Dhirubhai Chor C enter – Rs. 8 Crores Theft Case; TOI

[mc mahant]

Who love Ambanis --hands up!
mm


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Rs. 8 Crores Theft Case; TOI






Dhirubhai Chor Center – Rs. 8 Crores Theft Case; TOI
 
Dhiru Ambani and his siblings are not just the most unscrupulous family in the 
world but top thugs and thieves. 
 
Can you imagine Mukesh Ambani the Richest Person in the world was stealing 
electricity to run an institution (DAKC) named after his father Dhiru who 
started his career by melting silver coins of Yemen and selling the metal? 
 
He was operating 300 KVA substation by drawing power through under ground 
cables connected to MSEDCL high voltage lines. 
 
The connected load of Dhiru Chor City must be over 1500 KW. (You must have read 
in my earlier petition regarding Fabricated Theft Cases that load factor is 11% 
for domestic consumers and 13% for commercial.) 
 
Had it been BRPL or BYPL in similar case a DAE case of ---
 
1500 KW X 24X30X6X5 = 1,08,00,000 units or 1.08 crores units or Rs. 7 crores 
would have been slapped on Dhiru Chor City. And asked to pay Rs.3.5 crores in 
two days and Dhiru, though not alive today would have been put in jail. 
 
But MSEDCL only raised the bill that is permitted by EA2003, around Rs.40 lac. 
 
MSEDCL calculation was 300KVAX0.85 PFX24 hrs X 30 Days X3 Months X1.5 Penal 
Rate = 826200 units this comes to around Rs.40 lac. 
 
But since we know Dhiru Chor City came up in 2002 so instead of 3 months we 
have extend the period to 60 month or 20 times. Since this is direct theft the 
bill ought to have been Rs.8 crores as per EA2003. 
 
Dhiru Chor City obviously bribed the system to escape with just Rs.40 lac 
penalty which incidentally is not even worth 20 square meter of 240 million 
square meters prime land Corruptly Handed Over to Mukesh Ambani in Mumbai 
alone. 
 
One more thing BSES of Anil Ambani through BYPL in 15, Gagan Vihar, Delhi 
110092 had provided similar direct connection to former NDPL CEO Anil Sardana. 
 
Ambanis had operated 30 illegal phone exchanges also to re-route BSNL/ MTNL 
international calls. 
 
Ravinder Singh November24, 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 
Reliance Info faces power theft case 
 
8 Nov 2007, 0130 hrs IST,TNN 
 MUMBAI: The state power utility Maharashtra State 
Electricity Distribution Company Limited (MSEDCL) on Tuesday filed an FIR 
against Reliance Infocomm Infrastructure Pvt Ltd for drawing power illegally by 
using an underground cable. The state power utility slapped a fine of about Rs 
41 lakh to recover the loss of revenue caused by the alleged power theft. 
 
  However, sources in Reliance Infocomm denied that it was 
involved in the case. The officials said the case had been filed against 
electrical contractors it had appointed to take care of power requirements at 
Dhirubhai Ambani Knowledge City (DAKC), Mahape in Navi Mumbai. Senior police 
officers, on condition of anonymity, said a case had been filed and three 
parties were named as the accused. The sprawling DAKC campus holds the offices 
of the top management of Reliance Infocomm. 
 
  While junior MSEDCL officials confirmed that a detailed FIR 
had been lodged with the special police station for power theft cases at 
Kalyan, the utility's top brass kept mum. Despite the size of the power theft, 
MSEDCL officials preferred not to speak on record. No one answered TOI's calls, 
right from state energy minister Dilip Walse Patil to MSEDCL managing director 
Ajay Bhushan Pandey. 
 
  Contrary to such a studied silence in this particular case, 
MSEDCL officials had been earlier extremely prompt in giving out press 
statements with the details of power thefts involving farmers and small and 
medium industries. In August and September, it launched special drives against 
individuals across the state to detect cases of power theft. It had prosecuted 
hundreds of people in pockets of Mumbra, near Thane city, for drawing power 
illegally from the main distribution poles and meticulously made video tapes 
which were shown to the media. 
 
  Meanwhile, the FIR clearly mentioned that MSEDCL had detected 
that power was being illegally drawn by using an underground cable connected to 
a 300-kilovolt substation. 
 
  Earlier, MSEDCL had been forced to take action against power 
thefts due to pressure from the Maharashtra Electricity Regulatory Commission 
to bring down distribution losses that were hovering at 29%. Each percentage of 
distribution loss directly causes a revenue loss of around Rs 150 crore to Rs 
200 crore. 
 


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[Assam] Is Harvard Ready to Take on South Asia?, SPAN September/October 2007

[umesh sharma]

seems US univs have shown extra interest in South Asia. I heard some NRI 
donated $4 million to Harvard to set up South Asia chair this month

 http://usembassy.state.gov/posts/in1/wwwfspseptoct079.pdf.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:eDe4kpoq-HwJ:usembassy.state.gov/posts/in1/wwwfspseptoct079.pdf+usefi+mumbai&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us&client=firefox-a


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