Re: [Assam] assam Digest, Vol 28, Issue 44/
Friends, In order to get into legally with human right issue and Indian Assamese women modesty issues, taking all severely, me being an Assamese and Indian Citizen, I am going to exercise my capabilities by written complaint to the President of India, PM-who is selected from Assam-not from Punjab,Dr.Girija Vyas, Chairperson NCW,Sonia Gandhi and our CM as well State human right commision(Of course this commission is too weak...I had bitter experience earlier in 1998).I did studied all the opinions here and soon will submit my complaint with all the legal aspects to the media(TV?Newspaper etc).SOMEONE NEED TO STAND FOR THIS CAUSE, AND ITS ME NOW. Anything thhat comes in question of Assam can never be compromised and we cant also loose our Govt- which is much stable than any failed opposition Govt I ever saw.Let Gogoi be there.And the matters will be placed here after submiting to the mentioned concerned only. Thanks Alpana and Nayanjyoti Medhi.Thanks to all who did contributed.It might be time consuming to get the result, but a good fruitful one. The word Adibasi- should be abolished from Assam.Let that be in Jharkhand,Bihar etc.WE are Adibasi WE are living since Mahabharata times.Ironically me even from the generals of chilarai.Then why I cant be adibasi?WE do cary encient glories in Kamrup-Pragjyotishpur. a) last nights TV interview showed at Times Now Tv that the tea garden people did damaged vehicles etc as police failed to remove from the road and that did obstructed their peace march!!!Haaa. b) Suddenly where did the Jhumur singer and broken xuwala Axomiya speaking tea garden people gone away?All what we see are pure Jharkhandi Hindi speaking- who hardly know assamese???Then there is large beeline of themn to Assam to create a greater Jharkhand in the style of Subhash Ghising- mass transportation of Nepalese to Assam with the help of Manikumar subba to increase more nepali populations in Assam to include Assam in Greater Gorkhaland???All because entire Assam falls in his map. I dnt know how many have map of Assam in their dream territories.!! Bikash. [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:32:39 +0530 Subject: Re: [Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India If I may, 1. Maybe the media could have given the tapes to the police so that they could catch the culprits (which they have done). 2. Maybe they could have given a detailed write up instead of the photograph or video. 3. Maybe they could have given the girl a piece of cloth to cover her modesty instead of a black strip on the photo or video (I presume they were Eye Witnesses). 4. Maybe they could have resisted the hooligans and saved the girl from getting stripped instead of shooting pictures (If I am not wrong they did not shoot pictures of the person who gave the girl a piece of cloth to cover her modesty). 5. Maybe they could have used their pens to condemn the incident. Uncovering the truth is of course their duty but is it not their duty to save a girl from getting stripped in the first place. Will they (the photographers) go and testify against the molestors in the court? If it is their duty to uncover the truth? Can you give us assurance that they will be present in the court to ensure punishment to the molestors? Or is it that their duty finishes as soon as they click with zoom lenses from safe distances and publish the pictures? Regards Nayanjyoti Medhi From: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:41:25 -0600 Subject: Re: [Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India Isn't still the main issue be that a girl was brutally humiliated in broad daylight and that it should NEVER EVEr happen to anyone? I thought I saw a person on the video spreading his hands to protect the girl from others after she was given a jacket to cover herself up. It is a shame!! - Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Click here. ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] ST status for Adivasis under review: Centre
>From The Assam Tribune http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/details.asp?id=nov3007/at01 ST status for Adivasis under review: CentreFrom Our Spl Correspondent NEW DELHI, Nov 29 – Unnerved by the violence on the streets of Guwahati, the Centre today said that it was willing to actively consider grant of Scheduled Tribe (ST) status to the Adivasis. This was a climbdown from its earlier position when Home Minister Shivraj Patil had said that the Register General of India has recommended against granting them ST status. They based their recommendation on the Lokur Committee Report and Backward Classes Commission, which concluded that these communities tend to lose their ST status in new surroundings.The Home Minister’s clarification came at the end of a brief discussion on the situation in the Rajya Sabha here today after members after members blasted the State Government for its handling of the situation and demanded its dismissal.Earlier, the AGP and BJP joined hands with UNPA to stage a dharna in front of the Parliament House condemning the violence. The demonstrators, who were joined by Jaya Bachchan, demanded ST status for the six communities, judicial inquiry and punishment to the culprits. The demonstrators included Dr Arun Kumar Sarma, Sarbananda Sonowal, Kumar Deepak Das, Narayan Borkatoki, Rajen Gohain, Tapir Gam and Khiren Rijiju, among others.Later briefing newsmen, Jaya Bachchan described the incident involving the Adivasi girl as most unfortunate. She said because of the neglect by the ‘mainland’, the people of the region felt isolated.Later, in the Rajya Sabha Kumar Deepak opened the attack on the Government by castigating it for its failure to control the situation. He said the State Government should be dismissed, reiterating the demand for a CBI inquiry. He questioned why the State Government failed to take action against the culprits and the guilty policemen despite the clinching evidence against them.Dwijendranath Sarma tried to intervene and bail out the State Government by pointing out that a judicial inquiry has been already ordered into the incidents. Patil also chipped in by asserting that the culprits involved in the incident of disrobing the young girl has been detained by the police. Those who participated in the discussion included Sushila Treya, Jaya Bachchan, Motilal Sarkar and Chandan Mitra, among others. The Lok Sabha is scheduled to discuss the incident on Monday. “In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble like a blade of grass” - Lakshmana _ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] media and their responsibility in Assam
While agreeing with you, I like to add one more aspect.It has been assumed that the happening of that day is a result of administrative inaction or simple law and order problem. Fingers should be raised more sternly at those invisible hands that conducted the puppet show. The happening and the aftermath clearly show that it was not spontaneous. It is another matter that some rowdies or perverts got into their act. Here, 3 or 4 persons stripped the lady. Similarly 4 persons were involved in the rape and killing of Barnali Deb. The latter did not give bad publicity to Assam in general. But this thing is giving bad publicity, why? Some people with good senses in the midst of the frenzy gave shelter to the tormented, that too is on the record. Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have read the proceedings in assamnet on this matter from the sidelines. One point that otherwise able people have failed address or ask is this: Is continued visual publication of lurid or gratuitous scenes of violence and barbarism an act of responsible or mature journalism or is it an act of inflaming tinder dry passions? Are those who do not attempt to cash in on such sensationalism guilty of attempting to hide unpleasant truths? It is obvious that otherwise educated, arguably informed and at the very least self-righteous people in this forum have failed to recognize this simple principle of social or journalistic responsibility. Compounding that with their simplistic demands for PUNISHMENT of the 'guilty' but failing to acknowledge the systemic dysfunction of Indian justice ( as is abundantly clear to anyone but the legally blind) which has demonstrated over and over again its impotence, points to the emptiness of their righteousness. What they rightly call criminal and seek justice, but fail to recognize and /or rise against the dysfunctional state of the justice system amounts to little more than double talk--intentional or ignorant--take your pick. Oxomiyas have no business pleading guilty for criminal actions of some even if they too are Oxomiyas. That would be an Indian act, where it is commonplace to hold everyone of a race or religion or ethnic identity guilty for the transgression of a few. Just look what happened to Sikhs after Indira Gandhi's assassination or to Muslims of Gujarat after Godhra or to what happens routinely to Dalits of Haryana or Tamilnadu or property rights defenders in Bengal. What Oxomiya intelligentsia must rise against is the dysfunctional Indian system of governance, where those who are responsible for law and public order are asleep at the wheel or those who went on a rampage seeking something that Oxom govert. has no ability to deliver on. At 3:23 AM + 11/30/07, dileep chandan wrote: >The local media in Assam has done a very good role in the latest >situation,I believe.While few electronic media has also done >good.Yesterday we had a meeting organised by journalist forum and >Rajdeep(CNN IBN)called the secy of the Guwahati Press Club.Said that >they did a mistake depecting the news.Will never do it again.The >local cable operators were also present there and from to-day they >have lifted the banned on those channels. > I think, Assam and Guwahati is a more free place for all media.But >this should not be taken for granted.Everybody should know and have >some respect to those people and place,where they are coming as a >media person.Nothing should be taken for granted > >Dileep Chandan > >Dileep Chandan >Editor,"ASOM BANI" >Tribune Buildings >Guwahati 781003 >Assam >ph;9435014229 > >On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : >>Send assam mailing list submissions to >> assam@assamnet.org >> >>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>You can reach the person managing the list at >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>than "Re: Contents of assam digest..." >> >> >>Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Statement of BHRPC regarding The Violence in Guwahati >> (Krishnendu Chakraborty) >> 2. Re: CNN-IBN- NDTV news report on Assam - 27th Nov'2007 (Ram Dhar) >> 3. Shame for us (Mohan R. Palleti) >> 4. Wakeup call from Beltola (Mohan R. Palleti) >> 5. Two classes at IITs, US univs etc (umesh sharma) >> 6. On 1996 tour, Gary Kirsten hated India - TOI (Ram Sarangapani) >> 7. Mischief afoot (shantikam hazarika) >> 8. Re: Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India > > (muktikam phukan) >> 9. 'Media projected Assam divide' (Buljit Buragohain) >> 10. Author, if you are that IGNORANT; hear it loud and clear, the >> ULFA exists because India is denying fulfilment of the UNIVERSAL >> rights of self-determination Assam posses. You cannot ?UNDERMINE? >> that right into oblivion, with your moronic penning. (Bartta
[Assam] media and responsibility - another issue
I am copying a mail I recieved just now. Food for thought. >A book entitled RELIANCE - THE REAL NATWAR written by Arun Agrawal >was >released on 27/11/07 at the IIC by AB Bardhan. It brings out the >misdeeds of >Reliance Industries, especially their involvement in the >Food for Oil >programme brought out in the Volcker report. It indicts >several senior >politicians who were instrumental in shielding >Reliance. The book was >expected to cause a political explosion. The >media was there in full >strength, but that night, not one TV channel >covered it. Next morining all >newspapers ignored it. A corrspondednt >present at the book release had >predicted this. This if true is quite a shoddy state of affairs. Shantikam Hazarika Director, Assam Institute of Management PO Box 30, GUWAHATI 781001, India HOME PAGE: www.aimguwahati.edu.in > HOME PAGE: www.aimguwahati.edu.in > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 03:23:17 +> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: assam@assamnet.org> Subject: [Assam] media and their responsibility in Assam> > The local media in Assam has done a very good role in the latest situation,I believe.While few electronic media has also done good. _ Post free property ads on Yello Classifieds now! www.yello.in http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=221 ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Asom Adivasis, beware of Jharkhand leaders!
Asom Adivasis, beware of Jharkhand leaders! In the struggle of the Adivasis of Asom for ST rights, did the Jharkhand leaders ever raise the issue with the Centre or come to Asom to show solidarity with the Adivasi cause? Did they ever talk to the Centre about the problems faced by the Adivasis of Asom? Even yesterday when some of the Jharkhand leaders met the Prime Minister, they raised the issue of mining in their own State without saying a word on the Asom situation in relation to the Adivasis here. So why are the Jharkhand leaders landing up in Asom now? Either to make political gains for themselves or to distance the Adivasis from the greater Asomiya society, of which the Adivasis are a part. Such leaders should mind their own business and desist from aggravating the situation here. They should also remember that the Adivasis of Asom have not invited them to the State. And on no occasion in the past did the Asom Adivasis ever seek support from the Jharkhand leaders, whether in the matter of bonus or healthcare problems or any other issue in the tea gardens. Therefore, at the moment, the Jharkhand leaders should not be welcomed here. (See Editorial 1) No More Divide Please (Sentinel Assam) In the wake of the retaliatory attack on Adivasi protesters by an enraged Beltola mob last Saturday in Guwahati, some Adivasi political heavyweights from Jharkhand landed up in the city to show solidarity with the affected community. While we have already condemned the violence unleashed in the streets of Beltola last weekend and weighed the pros and cons of the ugly mob mayhem, we in equally strong terms decry the attempt by forces from outside the State to wedge further and deeper divides in the greater Asomiya society. First thing first. Leaders like Sibu Soren, Arjun Munda or Babulal Marandi who came all the way from Jharkhand to Asom to advocate the Adivasi cause in the State, are not aware of the meaning and implications of the greater Asomiya society a mosaic of diverse ethnic groups and migrant communities, except for the illegal Bangladeshis. These Jharkhand leaders do not know of the thread that binds the greater Asomiya society into one harmonious unit. And the wounded Adivasis who the Jharkhand leaders have visited in Asom to remind them of their roots and thus sympathize with their cause, are essentially a component of the greater Asomiya society. The Jharkhand leaders are perhaps not introduced to the age of assimilation that started way back in British India when the Adivasis were brought to Asom from the mainland by the British to work as labourers, especially in the tea gardens of the region, and when they gradually got assimilated in the Asomiya society to form a composite demographic mix sustaining on the basis of trust and goodwill towards each other. An isolated incident as Beltolas cannot be allowed to destabilize the greater Asomiya society; it cannot be allowed to create, promote and deepen new divides. However, the rush of leaders from outside the State as though to provide a soothing balm to the Adivasis affected by last weeks Beltola violence, would rather dilute the age-old coexistence of the Adivasis and the rest of their brethren in the State. And by Adivasis in this column, we obviously mean the Adivasis who have already become Asomiya in every sense of the term. This, the Jharkhand leaders ought to realize as and when they appeal to their brethren in Asom. It is an Asomiya problem then the Beltola incident and the chain of events triggered by it. Therefore, the Jharkhand leaders have no business in Asom to show anyone the way, for it is the greater Asomiya society and its characteristics that will counter the problem plaguing it and work out a solution of the problem in its own right. Since, as we have already said, the Adivasis are essentially a part of the greater Asomiya framework, the need of the hour is a concerted endeavour to regain the lost space of trust and goodwill, and ultimately of peace and progress. And yet, if any politicians are out to exploit the situation and draw mileage out of the hurt feelings, distrust and animosity among the communities of the State, they will never be welcomed in our midst. This is the message that The Sentinel would send across to the Jharkhand leaders visiting Asom and trying to be one with the Adivasis of the State. Where were these leaders when the Asomiya Adivasis had faced other problems in the past? Let it be said here that it is the dynamics of the greater Asomiya society that will, in due course, be the best leveller and healer of all wounds. But no more divide please, and no more lecture from outside the State too. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/a
[Assam] From ToI--State of Indian Justice
What a coincidence! Right after posting my comments about the state of Indian Justice regarding the criminal actions of rioters at Guahati, I came across the following in the ToI . But it is an incomplete and superficial report, symptomatic of most we see in Indian media. It does not consider the fact that the judiciary cannot deliver justice if the prosecutors are unable to provide the evidence or the investigators to gather them or the laws are faulty or unenforceable or irrelevant; or for that matter how the prosecutors, the investigators and even the judges are held hostage by elected members of the legislative branches, obviously in the absence of constitutional separation of powers. So the problem is not ALONE with too few judges or too few courtrooms ( or too many lawyers) or too many laws that are either unenforceable or un-necessary. It is far more deep rooted. Finally the ToI report fails to note another important element: That it is the government which files the most cases and plugs up the system that already is broken to begin with. In other words the Govt. is a part of the PROBLEM and not of a solution. cm Timely justice at Re 1 per head per month 30 Nov 2007, 0129 hrs IST,Dhananjay Mahapatra,TNN Print SaveEMail Write to Editor As many as 37.1 lakh cases were pending in India's 21 high courts as of June 30, 2007. On the same day, 2.5 crore cases were pending in lower courts. Of the 792 posts of judges sanctioned for high courts, 206 are vacant. Of the sanctioned strength of 15,399 judges in lower courts, 3,031 are vacant. NEW DELHI: People spend a lifetime in courts. Cases often take more than a decade to be decided. The judges are overworked, the infrastructure is shabby and the judicial system is creaking at several levels, especially in subordinate courts. Judiciary - the one institution that still commands the people's respect - is straining to deliver justice. Who is responsible for this? Is it the judiciary or the government? TOI took a close look at different aspects of the judicial system and found that while there might be a modicum of truth in the popular refrain of courts not working to their potential, the bulk of the blame for unfilled lower court posts and the creaky infrastructure lies with the government. Not just that, the government is also responsible for fixing pathetically low salaries for judges. It starts at Rs 9,000 per month for judicial magistrates and goes up to all of Rs 35,000 for the Chief Justice of India. If the best legal talent doesn't want to join the judiciary, it's hardly surprising. And if there's corruption in the courts, it is not surprising either. TOI would like the salaries to be much higher to ensure an efficient and corruption-free judiciary. It worked out a model in which judges would get a respectable salary and it hiked the number of judges to the level required to clear the backlog within two years, and found the additional cost would be Rs 1,426 crore (see Times View). This works out to Re 1 per Indian per month - a small price to ensure quality and timely justice. The government, however, has simply not focused on how to pull the judiciary out of the mess. Each passing year, Parliament and state assemblies pass more and more laws, yet no one in government appears to give thought to the obvious - that the number of judges should be increased to cope with increased number of litigants and that retraining of judges in new laws should be mandatory. ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] adivasi-santals
And Patil said it all: "They are no more Tribes." Indian Rupee has emasculated all TRIBEs Only these remain marauders without regret/analysis/penitence: Like when 2 of them types: pounced from a tree and beheaded a Tea Garden Asst. Manager. Like Gogoi-Golaghat- garden Owner burnt alive--again nothing like regrets. They should go only back to their Homeland. These cannot be cured. MM> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:03:12 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: assam@assamnet.org> Subject: [Assam] adivasi-santals> > > Mohan Rao Palleti said:> > > > I seriously think that the Assam government should provide them with a> > > assamese status and no longer call them adivasis. Adivasi means> > > aborigines. They may have been aborigines from another state with a> > > distinct culture.> > > you are probably unaware that the assam government cannot profer the status of assamese on the santals. or anyone for that matter. as far as i am aware, the many definitions of assamese that go around these days do not exclude them.> > also, traditionally, they are called chaotals (santals), and in assamese literature they are celebrated for their straightforwardness and militancy: "chaotal maradar dhanur kar jen lakhyabhedi eku ekuta xobdo mur" -- hiren bhattacharya. the same militancy is now on display. and adivasi is not an appellation imposed on them, but something which some of them themselves prefer (aasaa -- all adivasi students association of assam).> > x> > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> > ___> assam mailing list> assam@assamnet.org> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org _ Post ads for free - to sell, rent or even buy.www.yello.in http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=186 ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] (no subject)
Good argument, Krishnendu. We couldn't have said it better. The main point to make sure about now is that it never repeats again. If the criminals are put in jail for torturing the girl like that then another one won't dare to do that to another woman. The picture with the guy kicking her clearly showed what kind of a low mentality he had towards her - won't touch her but would kick her in the most vulnerable place and position. I also heard that the police came after an hour. Would that be a crime to mention that now? “In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble like a blade of grass” - Lakshmana > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:32:27 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > assam@assamnet.org> Subject: [Assam] (no subject)> > >>people are not as much > concerned with assam's image> as with the >>deteriorating inter-ethnic > situation.> > OK so it's not that people are outraged because> Media Insulted > the woman as being claimed by some ?> > Anyway, two quotes from Assamnet ---> > > > "The report is well photographed and planned to edit> uncensored to > created Anti Assam feelings and movement> worldwide."> > "Women have been > routinely abused in other parts of> mainland India(> including gang rape, > public stripping and parading )> .. Does any> newspaper publish the pictures > of the crime?"> > > >>the sensational picture of the woman without clothes> > reached the national media rather >>late, when it was> no longer news.> > The > culprits were arrested after the picture was> published/aired. That precisely > says that the picture> DID serve the purpose.> > > >>but the picture, > >>instead of saying a thousand> words, did just the opposite by pushing back > these> issues. > > The picture foiled the attempt of GOA (and some> others) > to shove the whole incident under the carpet> as a "minor issue"> > >>assam > has a sensitive ethnic equation. the locals> >>understand this, and generally > don't instigate each> >>other needlessly.> > 1) As I understand from this > forum (refer posting by> Mr Hazarika), the picture was FIRST published by a> > local vernacular news paper> > 2) Both the Adviasis who started the vandalism > as> well as the people who stripped the woman are LOCALS.> The Tea Laborers > have been in Assam for more then> century> > 3) Every riot/ethinic killing > (the nightmares of> Nellie, Gohpur included) was started by LOCALS (both> > side) and NOT by some outsiders. Not saying this is> true only for Assam > . this happens all over the> world . outsider instigation, if any, > comes at a> later stage once the LOCALs start their in-fighting.> > > >>journalists, especially from outside the state. the> resulting ethnic > strife will touch not just the> city-based assamese and >>the chaotals, but > would> involve everyone else. the bengalis, the bodos, the> rajbanshis. i > have been told that the rangapara> >>clashes, that occurred after the > pictures were> published, involved bengalis.> > > And what GOA is doing ? > Sleeping till media> again publish some such picture. > Why do you think > that newspapers caused this violence> ? Do you think ASA would have been > silent had this> picture not been published ? > I am as concerned as you > my parents are in> Guwahati and all my close relatives are in Guwahati> and > upper assam. But I WOULD NOT agree that such a> inhuman incident should have > been shoved under the> carpet or passed as a minor incident as was being> > attempted.> > > > >>so, use your outrage judiciously lest it leads to> > further trouble.> > > Hmmm this advice should be for the Beltola> > residents who caused it. > > What people are not understanding is ... if > today you> (not Xourov in particular I am talking about those are> attempting > such) dilute the situation saying that it> was Adivasis who started it OR > they displayed their> militancy OR that they were inebriated tomorrow> > these criminals will do the same with our sisters.> The more you try to come > up with vague arguments, the> more you are distancing yourself from humanity> > > > > > >>you seem to be conflating a number of issues> together. people are > not as much concerned with> assam's image as with the >>deteriorating > inter-ethnic> situation. the sensational picture of the woman> without > clothes reached the national media rather> >>late, when it was no longer > news. instead of> helping people resolve the problems, the media> inflamed > the situation further. >>yes, people have a> right to know. we would like to > know a lot about what> went wrong that day. what is being done to> > >>ameliorate the pain of the victims, compensate them> for their loss and > what punitive measures are taken. > but the picture, >>instead of saying a > thousand words,> did just the opposite by pushing back these issues. > > > >>assam has a sensitive ethnic equation. the locals> un
[Assam] (no subject)
>>people are not as much concerned with assam's image as with the >>deteriorating inter-ethnic situation. OK so it's not that people are outraged because Media Insulted the woman as being claimed by some ? Anyway, two quotes from Assamnet --- "The report is well photographed and planned to edit uncensored to created Anti Assam feelings and movement worldwide." "Women have been routinely abused in other parts of mainland India( including gang rape, public stripping and parading ) .. Does any newspaper publish the pictures of the crime?" >>the sensational picture of the woman without clothes reached the national media rather >>late, when it was no longer news. The culprits were arrested after the picture was published/aired. That precisely says that the picture DID serve the purpose. >>but the picture, >>instead of saying a thousand words, did just the opposite by pushing back these issues. The picture foiled the attempt of GOA (and some others) to shove the whole incident under the carpet as a "minor issue" >>assam has a sensitive ethnic equation. the locals >>understand this, and generally don't instigate each >>other needlessly. 1) As I understand from this forum (refer posting by Mr Hazarika), the picture was FIRST published by a local vernacular news paper 2) Both the Adviasis who started the vandalism as well as the people who stripped the woman are LOCALS. The Tea Laborers have been in Assam for more then century 3) Every riot/ethinic killing (the nightmares of Nellie, Gohpur included) was started by LOCALS (both side) and NOT by some outsiders. Not saying this is true only for Assam . this happens all over the world . outsider instigation, if any, comes at a later stage once the LOCALs start their in-fighting. >>journalists, especially from outside the state. the resulting ethnic strife will touch not just the city-based assamese and >>the chaotals, but would involve everyone else. the bengalis, the bodos, the rajbanshis. i have been told that the rangapara >>clashes, that occurred after the pictures were published, involved bengalis. And what GOA is doing ? Sleeping till media again publish some such picture. Why do you think that newspapers caused this violence ? Do you think ASA would have been silent had this picture not been published ? I am as concerned as you my parents are in Guwahati and all my close relatives are in Guwahati and upper assam. But I WOULD NOT agree that such a inhuman incident should have been shoved under the carpet or passed as a minor incident as was being attempted. >>so, use your outrage judiciously lest it leads to further trouble. Hmmm this advice should be for the Beltola residents who caused it. What people are not understanding is ... if today you (not Xourov in particular I am talking about those are attempting such) dilute the situation saying that it was Adivasis who started it OR they displayed their militancy OR that they were inebriated tomorrow these criminals will do the same with our sisters. The more you try to come up with vague arguments, the more you are distancing yourself from humanity >>you seem to be conflating a number of issues together. people are not as much concerned with assam's image as with the >>deteriorating inter-ethnic situation. the sensational picture of the woman without clothes reached the national media rather >>late, when it was no longer news. instead of helping people resolve the problems, the media inflamed the situation further. >>yes, people have a right to know. we would like to know a lot about what went wrong that day. what is being done to >>ameliorate the pain of the victims, compensate them for their loss and what punitive measures are taken. but the picture, >>instead of saying a thousand words, did just the opposite by pushing back these issues. >>assam has a sensitive ethnic equation. the locals understand this, and generally don't instigate each other needlessly. i >>have talked to people in assam who are working to prevent further trouble, and they are utterly frustrated with some >>journalists, especially from outside the state. the resulting ethnic strife will touch not just the city-based assamese and >>the chaotals, but would involve everyone else. the bengalis, the bodos, the rajbanshis. i have been told that the rangapara >>clashes, that occurred after the pictures were published, involved bengalis. >>so, use your outrage judiciously lest it leads to further trouble. >>x Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] adivasi-santals
Mohan Rao Palleti said: > I seriously think that the Assam government should provide them with a > assamese status and no longer call them adivasis. Adivasi means > aborigines. They may have been aborigines from another state with a > distinct culture. you are probably unaware that the assam government cannot profer the status of assamese on the santals. or anyone for that matter. as far as i am aware, the many definitions of assamese that go around these days do not exclude them. also, traditionally, they are called chaotals (santals), and in assamese literature they are celebrated for their straightforwardness and militancy: "chaotal maradar dhanur kar jen lakhyabhedi eku ekuta xobdo mur" -- hiren bhattacharya. the same militancy is now on display. and adivasi is not an appellation imposed on them, but something which some of them themselves prefer (aasaa -- all adivasi students association of assam). x Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: > You said it all Alpana'ba it is a shame ... > period. > People seem to be beating around the bushes blaming > media rather then the real villains and > 1. From the outrage we are seeing here, people are > more concerned at Assam's Image NOT at modesty of the > woman (refer postings of BD, JS). > First, please clarify the reason of this outrage you seem to be conflating a number of issues together. people are not as much concerned with assam's image as with the deteriorating inter-ethnic situation. the sensational picture of the woman without clothes reached the national media rather late, when it was no longer news. instead of helping people resolve the problems, the media inflamed the situation further. yes, people have a right to know. we would like to know a lot about what went wrong that day. what is being done to ameliorate the pain of the victims, compensate them for their loss and what punitive measures are taken. but the picture, instead of saying a thousand words, did just the opposite by pushing back these issues. assam has a sensitive ethnic equation. the locals understand this, and generally don't instigate each other needlessly. i have talked to people in assam who are working to prevent further trouble, and they are utterly frustrated with some journalists, especially from outside the state. the resulting ethnic strife will touch not just the city-based assamese and the chaotals, but would involve everyone else. the bengalis, the bodos, the rajbanshis. i have been told that the rangapara clashes, that occurred after the pictures were published, involved bengalis. so, use your outrage judiciously lest it leads to further trouble. x Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India
Nayan, Once again, I would first like to know the reason for outrage against media is it because the picture depicted Assam in Negative or is it because it insulted the woman. From beginning I am seeing the outburst for the former reason had it been ONLY the later reason , I would probably not have taken up my pen (keyboard). My only concern is people are stooping to a lower level of regionalism against humanism. Coming to your points -- >>You get me wrong. I am not condemning anyone You should condemn those who commited the crime and those who abeted by not trying to prevent it. >But >>showing a picture to a Judge is something else and publishing it in a >>newspaper is something altogether different. Won't you agree? In democracy, the media plays a vital role in shaping public opinion, in bringing awareness, in keeping the government on its toes. This picture serves all these purpose . exposing how miserably our government failed. Just the way a judge will form an opinion, the public will form an opinion based on this >>Do you think that >>the other pictures of people beating people were not enough that they had to >>publish the picture of that stripped innocent girl to pressurize the >>government? If the other pictures would have had the same impact, why the outburst that this picture has painted Assam in black ? >>>nd this >>would not be the first time. And as you have said about the PIL. I can >>assure you that it won't be able to reverse the process of not being able to >>control the situation. Did not expect this from you . ANY criminal litigation CANNOT reverse what has happened. If you use this example, these criminals should not be put through legal process because it will NOT reverse the situation nor should a murderer be put to trial because you cannot undo the murder. >>I simply cannot speak for anyone else other than me. But let >>me enlighten you that cases are not won because there is someone (an >>advocate) to represent the villain. Cases are won when witnesses do not >>falter, when they speak the truth with courage (they have to appear first). >>If witnesses do not appear then justice is delayed and sometimes denied. 1) You wanted an assurance from me if the journalists will come up as witness as their moral duty. What I pointed is, lawyers DO send their morality to vacation when they defend a known criminal. Can you deny that ? No. So, if a lawyer does not stick to his ethics/morality why do you expect journalists to leave their job and work for lawyers ? 2) Is it false that lawyers manage to extend litigations on flimsy grounds --- like a false medical certificate stating his client is sick, or pointing some minor typos in the petition etc (I experienced in a civil litigation). Just 2 days back there was a report in a Calcutta daily on one Idrish Ali who is avoiding his court case claimin he is sick while doctors cannot find any problem. Who suggested him about such tricks ... sure not some journalist. 3) If a criminal case is as simple as you cited (cases are not won because there is someone (an >>advocate) to represent the villain.)why do you think the rich and the famous (Sanjay Dutt to Todi) hire the best lawyer spending lakhs to defend them. They could hire just a small time lawyer fresh out of college after all it all depends on witness, lawyers are mere spectators ! Can you enlighten us ? >>He intends to >>act on the advice and has presumably started off the process. We would wait eagerly to see the outcome but I have serious doubts. It is not first time that media (Indian/International) has published such photos. >>but for your information, I also do not volunteer my services. And this >>would not be the first time. I guess you made a typo. >>Dada, >>You get me wrong. I am not condemning anyone. You are quite right in saying >>that a picture often speaks much more than a thousand line. In fact I would >>go on to agree with you that pictures do play a vital role in courts. But >>showing a picture to a Judge is something else and publishing it in a >>newspaper is something altogether different. Won't you agree? >>BY the way, your logic that the Government would have hushed the matter as >>they tried at the early stage has one very small hitch. Do you think that >>the other pictures of people beating people were not enough that they had to >>publish the picture of that stripped innocent girl to pressurize the >>government? >>And as to your question about the lawsuit about the media, Dr, Bikash Kumar >>Das called me up yesterday about the same thing and I have advised him on >>this very topic as how the media has violated the Indecent Representation of >>Women (Prohibition) Act, Cable Television Networks (Regulation) Act, Article >>21 (Right to life/live[with dignity]) as has been guranteed by the >>Constitution of India and provisions of the Indian Penal Code. He intends to >>act on the advice and has
Re: [Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India
Dada, You get me wrong. I am not condemning anyone. You are quite right in saying that a picture often speaks much more than a thousand line. In fact I would go on to agree with you that pictures do play a vital role in courts. But showing a picture to a Judge is something else and publishing it in a newspaper is something altogether different. Won't you agree? BY the way, your logic that the Government would have hushed the matter as they tried at the early stage has one very small hitch. Do you think that the other pictures of people beating people were not enough that they had to publish the picture of that stripped innocent girl to pressurize the government? And as to your question about the lawsuit about the media, Dr, Bikash Kumar Das called me up yesterday about the same thing and I have advised him on this very topic as how the media has violated the Indecent Representation of Women (Prohibition) Act, Cable Television Networks (Regulation) Act, Article 21 (Right to life/live[with dignity]) as has been guranteed by the Constitution of India and provisions of the Indian Penal Code. He intends to act on the advice and has presumably started off the process. I would not hesitate to represent the victims if asked for by them(pro bono) but for your information, I also do not volunteer my services. And this would not be the first time. And as you have said about the PIL. I can assure you that it won't be able to reverse the process of not being able to control the situation. And even if a PIL is filed, do you know what will happen? It would mean just another pending case for many years and appearance fees for us advocates. It won't make people kill each other. It also won't make people hate each other. And lastly, the assurance you want from me as to no advocate will represent the villains, I simply cannot speak for anyone else other than me. But let me enlighten you that cases are not won because there is someone (an advocate) to represent the villain. Cases are won when witnesses do not falter, when they speak the truth with courage (they have to appear first). If witnesses do not appear then justice is delayed and sometimes denied. And as you know delay is the worst form of denial. regards, nayanjyoti medhi On Nov 29, 2007 11:32 PM, Krishnendu Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. From the outrage we are seeing here, people are > more concerned at Assam's Image NOT at modesty of the > woman (refer postings of BD, JS) . > First, please clarify the reason of this outrage > > 2. A picture often speaks much more then a thousand > line that is why photo journalism exists. > Without this picture you would not have seen such > reactions (Quote from CM --- "They are animals"). > you as a lawyer should know it better that the > impression this picture is going to have on a judge is > much more then a thousand lines. In US court system, > pictures do play a vital role (I have some interest in > law though I am not a lawyer) > > 3. Every person in the society has their own role to > play ..By your logic, a journalist covering war > should go and treat war victims instead of reporting. > Journalists are often termed as heartless but because > they are, you can become aware of the crime happening > around the world. > Did the media person Arnab Goswami (who is being > highly praised) try to resist the hooligans ? > > 4. If media would have given the photos to > police/government instead of publishing it, there > would NOT have been the pressure on government and > Government would have hushed up the matter (as they > tried initialy) > > 5. If media people start flocking the court as > witnesses, will advocates cover their role ? > > 6. Many are pointing that media was wrong but you as > an advocate can easily file a lawsuit against media if > they are wrong. Will you? > > 7. As an advocate, will you represent the victims > (this and other similar cases) pro-bono > > 8. For every criminal case, you have a criminal > advocate trying to save the criminal. Can you, as an > advocate, give us assurance that NO advocate will > represent these (or other similar) criminals? > > 9. Will you, as an advocate, file a PIL against GOA > as to why they failed to control the situation? > > > I am all with you to protect Assam's interest ... . > But you seem to be blaming the wrong person for > degrading Assam .. count me in if you are > condemning the right set of people the > government, police et al. > > > > > >>If I may, > >>1. Maybe the media could have given the tapes to the > police so that they > could catch the culprits (which they have done). > >>2. Maybe they could have given a detailed write up > instead of the photograph > or video. > >>3. Maybe they could have given the girl a piece of > cloth to cover her > modesty instead of a black strip on the photo or video > (I presume they were > Eye Witnesses). > >>4. Maybe they could have resisted the hooligans and > s
[Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India
You said it all Alpana'ba it is a shame ... period. People seem to be beating around the bushes blaming media rather then the real villains >>Isn't still the main issue be that a girl was brutally humiliated in broad daylight and that it should NEVER EVEr happen to anyone? >>I thought I saw a person on the video spreading his hands to protect the girl from others after she was given a jacket to cover herself up. >>It is a shame!! Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Fun awaits for fog delayed DELHI airport PASSENGERS- real out of box solution
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1071129/asp/frontpage/story_8606947.asp Fun awaits for fog delayed DELHI PASSENGERS belly dancers, magicians and fortune-tellers entertaining you while you twiddle thumbs and pray for the fog to clear Now the really bad news: The brainwave to deploy belly dancers has been shot down !!! Yoga instructors, Russian acrobats and jugglers are on the list of potential entertainers _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007 ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India
1. From the outrage we are seeing here, people are more concerned at Assam's Image NOT at modesty of the woman (refer postings of BD, JS) . First, please clarify the reason of this outrage 2. A picture often speaks much more then a thousand line that is why photo journalism exists. Without this picture you would not have seen such reactions (Quote from CM --- "They are animals"). you as a lawyer should know it better that the impression this picture is going to have on a judge is much more then a thousand lines. In US court system, pictures do play a vital role (I have some interest in law though I am not a lawyer) 3. Every person in the society has their own role to play ..By your logic, a journalist covering war should go and treat war victims instead of reporting. Journalists are often termed as heartless but because they are, you can become aware of the crime happening around the world. Did the media person Arnab Goswami (who is being highly praised) try to resist the hooligans ? 4. If media would have given the photos to police/government instead of publishing it, there would NOT have been the pressure on government and Government would have hushed up the matter (as they tried initialy) 5. If media people start flocking the court as witnesses, will advocates cover their role ? 6. Many are pointing that media was wrong but you as an advocate can easily file a lawsuit against media if they are wrong. Will you? 7. As an advocate, will you represent the victims (this and other similar cases) pro-bono 8. For every criminal case, you have a criminal advocate trying to save the criminal. Can you, as an advocate, give us assurance that NO advocate will represent these (or other similar) criminals? 9. Will you, as an advocate, file a PIL against GOA as to why they failed to control the situation? I am all with you to protect Assam's interest ... . But you seem to be blaming the wrong person for degrading Assam .. count me in if you are condemning the right set of people the government, police et al. >>If I may, >>1. Maybe the media could have given the tapes to the police so that they could catch the culprits (which they have done). >>2. Maybe they could have given a detailed write up instead of the photograph or video. >>3. Maybe they could have given the girl a piece of cloth to cover her modesty instead of a black strip on the photo or video (I presume they were Eye Witnesses). >>4. Maybe they could have resisted the hooligans and saved the girl from getting stripped instead of shooting pictures (If I am not wrong they did not shoot pictures of the person who gave the girl a piece of cloth to cover her modesty). >>5. Maybe they could have used their pens to condemn the incident. >>Uncovering the truth is of course their duty but is it not their duty to save a girl from getting stripped in the first place. Will they (the >>photographers) go and testify against the molestors in the court? If it is their duty to uncover the truth? Can you give us assurance that they will be >>present in the court to ensure punishment to the molestors? Or is it that their duty finishes as soon as they click with zoom lenses from safe >>distances and publish the pictures? Regards Nayanjyoti Medhi On Nov 29, 2007 8:03 PM, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: > >> HIDING THE FACE OF THE WOMAN IS NOT THE SOLUTION. > >>WILL YOU AGREE TO SUCH A SOLUTION IF THAT HAPPENS > >>TO YOUR OWN SISTER OR MOTHER OR ANY RELATIVE ? > > > So what is the solution shove it under the carpet > just like our Netas were trying to do until Media > exposed it ? > > By your logic a rape victim should not move to > court/police station ! You would probably advice this > if your relative is a victim of such incident. > > >From what I see in this forum, people are more > concerned primarily because this exposure caused a > negative publicity to Assam and NOT because they are > concerned about the modesty of the woman. This is > apparent from many questioning why media exposed it > for Assam and never do it for other places . > > May I know why you are shouting .. or is it just > that the CAPS lock in your keyboard is stuck :) > > > > > >>Dear Mr Chakraborty > > >> HIDING THE FACE OF THE WOMAN IS NOT THE SOLUTION. > >>WILL YOU AGREE TO SUCH A SOLUTION IF THAT HAPPENS > >>TO YOUR OWN SISTER OR MOTHER OR ANY RELATIVE ? > > >> Regards > >> Muktikam Phukan > > >>Krishnendu Chakraborty > wrote: > >> Unless I am mistaken, ALL media reports blurred > the > face of the lady to hide identity. Exposing such > henious acts are not a Assam/India media phenomenon > but is done by media all over world. > > > What is the allegation against media --- > > 1) That they exposed a crime > > 2) That it gave Assam a bad publicity > > 3) That the lady (whose identity is not disclosed by > the photograph) has been insulted > > Seeing all the posts in this forum, I suspect it is > number 2 above. > >
Re: [Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India
Isn't still the main issue be that a girl was brutally humiliated in broad daylight and that it should NEVER EVEr happen to anyone? I thought I saw a person on the video spreading his hands to protect the girl from others after she was given a jacket to cover herself up. It is a shame!! “In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble like a blade of grass” - Lakshmana _ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India
If I may, 1. Maybe the media could have given the tapes to the police so that they could catch the culprits (which they have done). 2. Maybe they could have given a detailed write up instead of the photograph or video. 3. Maybe they could have given the girl a piece of cloth to cover her modesty instead of a black strip on the photo or video (I presume they were Eye Witnesses). 4. Maybe they could have resisted the hooligans and saved the girl from getting stripped instead of shooting pictures (If I am not wrong they did not shoot pictures of the person who gave the girl a piece of cloth to cover her modesty). 5. Maybe they could have used their pens to condemn the incident. Uncovering the truth is of course their duty but is it not their duty to save a girl from getting stripped in the first place. Will they (the photographers) go and testify against the molestors in the court? If it is their duty to uncover the truth? Can you give us assurance that they will be present in the court to ensure punishment to the molestors? Or is it that their duty finishes as soon as they click with zoom lenses from safe distances and publish the pictures? Regards Nayanjyoti Medhi On Nov 29, 2007 8:03 PM, Krishnendu Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> HIDING THE FACE OF THE WOMAN IS NOT THE SOLUTION. > >>WILL YOU AGREE TO SUCH A SOLUTION IF THAT HAPPENS > >>TO YOUR OWN SISTER OR MOTHER OR ANY RELATIVE ? > > > So what is the solution shove it under the carpet > just like our Netas were trying to do until Media > exposed it ? > > By your logic a rape victim should not move to > court/police station ! You would probably advice this > if your relative is a victim of such incident. > > >From what I see in this forum, people are more > concerned primarily because this exposure caused a > negative publicity to Assam and NOT because they are > concerned about the modesty of the woman. This is > apparent from many questioning why media exposed it > for Assam and never do it for other places . > > May I know why you are shouting .. or is it just > that the CAPS lock in your keyboard is stuck :) > > > > > >>Dear Mr Chakraborty > > >> HIDING THE FACE OF THE WOMAN IS NOT THE SOLUTION. > >>WILL YOU AGREE TO SUCH A SOLUTION IF THAT HAPPENS > >>TO YOUR OWN SISTER OR MOTHER OR ANY RELATIVE ? > > >> Regards > >> Muktikam Phukan > > >>Krishnendu Chakraborty > wrote: > >> Unless I am mistaken, ALL media reports blurred > the > face of the lady to hide identity. Exposing such > henious acts are not a Assam/India media phenomenon > but is done by media all over world. > > > What is the allegation against media --- > > 1) That they exposed a crime > > 2) That it gave Assam a bad publicity > > 3) That the lady (whose identity is not disclosed by > the photograph) has been insulted > > Seeing all the posts in this forum, I suspect it is > number 2 above. > > But then, had media not exposed it, would there been > such swift action from GOA. The GOA was earlier trying > to cover it up as a minor incident. > The Assam Police already mentiond that they have > identified the culprits from the media footage. > > If someone can prove that what media showed is > false/fabricated, I am all with him in blaming media > but this does not seem to be the case here. > > Yes, it gave a negative publicity to Assam but that > was NOT because of Media's fault it was because > of our Government's fault. The incident could have > been controlled much earlier had the police force been > active. > > To dilute the situation, there are already comments by > some that the Adivasi's were inebriated, or that why > they should demand such things in Assam. > All set aside, there cannot be any justification to > such barbaric act .. period. > > BTW, does someone know what happened to Barnali rape > case . a child who was raped and murdered by some > Network travel employees? > > > >>Media always exposes such incidents be it Assam or > Abu Ghraib. I thought it is duty of Media. > > > >> TIMESNOW has not shown any footage of the stripped > woman but reported the news with heavy condemnation. > In fact Arnab >>Goswami has raised a very pertinent > question - > > >> "HAS ANYONE TAKEN THE PERMISSION OF THE LADY > BEFORE SHOWING HER NAKED PHOTOS ? ARE WE NOT ADDING > FURTHER INSULT TO THE >>ALREADY INSULTED POOR WOMAN ?" > > > > > > > Be a better pen pal. > Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. > http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ > > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > -- Nayanjyoti Medhi Advocate Chamber: Satya Bora Lane, Dighalipukhuri East Guwahati-781001, Assam Phone: +91 361 2416960 +91 94350 43007 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assam
[Assam] Visual Account of the Day in Beltola
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[Assam] Rally by Womens' org.s: from The AT
http://www.assamtribune.com/nov2907/Photo2.html Activists of women organisations taking out a rally in the city on Wednesday, demanding punishment to the culprits involved in the stripping of an Adivasi woman and proper investigation into the violence that took place at Beltola. – UB Photos “In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble like a blade of grass” - Lakshmana _ You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the i’m Initiative now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGLM ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India
>> HIDING THE FACE OF THE WOMAN IS NOT THE SOLUTION. >>WILL YOU AGREE TO SUCH A SOLUTION IF THAT HAPPENS >>TO YOUR OWN SISTER OR MOTHER OR ANY RELATIVE ? So what is the solution shove it under the carpet just like our Netas were trying to do until Media exposed it ? By your logic a rape victim should not move to court/police station ! You would probably advice this if your relative is a victim of such incident. >From what I see in this forum, people are more concerned primarily because this exposure caused a negative publicity to Assam and NOT because they are concerned about the modesty of the woman. This is apparent from many questioning why media exposed it for Assam and never do it for other places . May I know why you are shouting .. or is it just that the CAPS lock in your keyboard is stuck :) >>Dear Mr Chakraborty >> HIDING THE FACE OF THE WOMAN IS NOT THE SOLUTION. >>WILL YOU AGREE TO SUCH A SOLUTION IF THAT HAPPENS >>TO YOUR OWN SISTER OR MOTHER OR ANY RELATIVE ? >> Regards >> Muktikam Phukan >>Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: >> Unless I am mistaken, ALL media reports blurred the face of the lady to hide identity. Exposing such henious acts are not a Assam/India media phenomenon but is done by media all over world. What is the allegation against media --- 1) That they exposed a crime 2) That it gave Assam a bad publicity 3) That the lady (whose identity is not disclosed by the photograph) has been insulted Seeing all the posts in this forum, I suspect it is number 2 above. But then, had media not exposed it, would there been such swift action from GOA. The GOA was earlier trying to cover it up as a minor incident. The Assam Police already mentiond that they have identified the culprits from the media footage. If someone can prove that what media showed is false/fabricated, I am all with him in blaming media but this does not seem to be the case here. Yes, it gave a negative publicity to Assam but that was NOT because of Media's fault it was because of our Government's fault. The incident could have been controlled much earlier had the police force been active. To dilute the situation, there are already comments by some that the Adivasi's were inebriated, or that why they should demand such things in Assam. All set aside, there cannot be any justification to such barbaric act .. period. BTW, does someone know what happened to Barnali rape case . a child who was raped and murdered by some Network travel employees? >>Media always exposes such incidents be it Assam or Abu Ghraib. I thought it is duty of Media. >> TIMESNOW has not shown any footage of the stripped woman but reported the news with heavy condemnation. In fact Arnab >>Goswami has raised a very pertinent question - >> "HAS ANYONE TAKEN THE PERMISSION OF THE LADY BEFORE SHOWING HER NAKED PHOTOS ? ARE WE NOT ADDING FURTHER INSULT TO THE >>ALREADY INSULTED POOR WOMAN ?" Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India
Dear Mr Chakraborty HIDING THE FACE OF THE WOMAN IS NOT THE SOLUTION. WILL YOU AGREE TO SUCH A SOLUTION IF THAT HAPPENS TO YOUR OWN SISTER OR MOTHER OR ANY RELATIVE ? Regards Muktikam Phukan Krishnendu Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unless I am mistaken, ALL media reports blurred the face of the lady to hide identity. Exposing such henious acts are not a Assam/India media phenomenon but is done by media all over world. What is the allegation against media --- 1) That they exposed a crime 2) That it gave Assam a bad publicity 3) That the lady (whose identity is not disclosed by the photograph) has been insulted Seeing all the posts in this forum, I suspect it is number 2 above. But then, had media not exposed it, would there been such swift action from GOA. The GOA was earlier trying to cover it up as a minor incident. The Assam Police already mentiond that they have identified the culprits from the media footage. If someone can prove that what media showed is false/fabricated, I am all with him in blaming media but this does not seem to be the case here. Yes, it gave a negative publicity to Assam but that was NOT because of Media's fault it was because of our Government's fault. The incident could have been controlled much earlier had the police force been active. To dilute the situation, there are already comments by some that the Adivasi's were inebriated, or that why they should demand such things in Assam. All set aside, there cannot be any justification to such barbaric act .. period. BTW, does someone know what happened to Barnali rape case . a child who was raped and murdered by some Network travel employees? >>Media always exposes such incidents be it Assam or Abu Ghraib. I thought it is duty of Media. >> TIMESNOW has not shown any footage of the stripped woman but reported the news with heavy condemnation. In fact Arnab >>Goswami has raised a very pertinent question - >> "HAS ANYONE TAKEN THE PERMISSION OF THE LADY BEFORE SHOWING HER NAKED PHOTOS ? ARE WE NOT ADDING FURTHER INSULT TO THE >>ALREADY INSULTED POOR WOMAN ?" Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org Muktikam Phukan Deputy Director (NR) Petroleum Conservation Research Association Sanrakshan Bhawan,10, Bhikaiji Cama Place,New Delhi 110066 Ph: +91 11 26198856 Ext 385, Mob: +91 9818598565 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Citizens' meet
Citizens demand round-table meet Guwahati, November 29: A citizens' meet organised by the Journalists' Forum, Assam (JFA) on Thursday demanded a round-table conference among various ethnic groups in Assam to discuss their demands, which, in some cases, appear to be conflicting. The meeting held at the Guwahati Press Club, was organised in connection with the unfortunate incident of November 24 in the Beltola-Dispur area of the city and its aftermath. The citizens, who included noted litterateur Nirupama Borgohain and veteran journalist Dhirendra Nath Chakravarty, said in a resolution that the demands, if considered separately, might lead to further misunderstanding in an already polarised society. Hence, the plea for a round-table conference. In another resolution, the meeting, with JFA president Rupam Baruah in chair, called upon the people in general and the media in particular to remain vigilant against the divisive forces who are working overtime to drive a wedge between various sections of the people. It also urged the media to exercise extreme restraint while covering the incident and its aftermath. The citizens demanded of the Government to fix responsibility for the collapse of the administration on that day and mete out exemplary punishment to those found guilty. They also urged the authorities to punish those who instigated and indulged in vandalism and murderous assaults against innocents, and pay adequate compensation to the victims. Earlier, Pradip Thakuria and Arupjyoti Das, eye witnesses of the incident, related their first-hand account of the day. Those who spoke at the meeting included former M.L.A. Ajoy Dutta, senior journalists Hiten Mahanta, Nava Thakuria, Biman Hazarika, Dilip Chandan,Divas Phukan and Greater Guwahati Cable Operators" Association president Rajesh Sarma. Sent by Ranen Kumar Goswami on behalf of Journalists' Forum, Assam Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
