Re: [Assam] Delhi IGI airport

[Alpana B. Sarangapani]

Thanks C'da. 
 
And thanks also for your constructive critique about the airport. I didn't get 
to try the food court or get to go to the parking garage, the taxi driver 
hurriedly left us at the airport (btw, we talked a lot about things with all of 
them, ate at regular dhaba's with the driver that took us around at Delhi, that 
he was so happy that he wanted us to bring him here to work as a chauffeur - he 
would be about Nitin's age, a great fella, but we had to convince him that 
without paper-work we could do nothing, and that we don't have a business to 
sponsor him, but could help when his daughter or son would grow up to attend 
college).
 
One of my disappointments was, inspite of my OCI card, I was considered a 
"foreign national / NRI" and had to pay Rs. 750 to enter to see the Tajmahal. 
Unfortunately, I did not carry the card that day, so did have to pay that 
amount, or else, would have flushed my card that says that am still an Indian 
citizen with the Govt. of India seal on their faces. 
 
More later...
 
 



  
 


 

> From: cmaha...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 09:51:38 -0600
> To: assam@assamnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Assam] Delhi IGI airport
> 
> Welcome back A. Glad to hear you had a good trip. So did I. Arunachal, 
> Namdapha area to be precise, was spectacular.
> 
> I agree with your assessment of Delhi airport. It looked good. Services were 
> too. I liked the food court a lot, although it is pricey for locals.
> Bathrooms were clean. No hassles from officials. Announcers are 
> understandable and the loudspeakers clear. Taxis are easy to get, safe 
> and the old nightmares of getting in and out of the airport has finally 
> ended. The parking garage was not suffocating. One thing I noticed
> that is not something most will, was the very bad choice of colors of the 
> carpeting, mix of yellows, oranges and light browns. They will 
> get soiled in no time at all. That was the architect or the interior 
> designer's fault :-).
> 
> I just hope the maintenance of the facilities, the usual weak link, 
> continues. I was concerned by broken and un-repaired drywall already, in six 
> months
> between March and November. 
> 
> Now if Dilli can clean up its air a tad bit, everyone could breathe a lot 
> easier :-). 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 7, 2011, at 11:46 PM, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The new IGI airport in Delhi they've built. is stunningly beautiful. and 
> > the service? yes, that is also great! There was no line to wait on, in 
> > fact, they called us to the counter - right away - what an experience! ! It 
> > can be said that the overall standard of Delhi airport is one of the 1st 
> > class airports of the world now. The shops are ample in numbers and items 
> > and also are beautifully decorated with color and light. The whole airport 
> > is splendidly furnished that includes beautiful live plants and decorative 
> > items with very good taste. 
> > 
> > The bathroom scenario is good as well, the ones in airline lounge (at least 
> > the one that I travelled with) are maintained well - and yes, they are very 
> > clean and dry. 
> > 
> > I am just happy and was very impressed and see a brighter future. 
> > I read some article about reducing the poverty level in Brazil and Mexico, 
> > specifically, will send the link when I find an electronic copy. 
> > 
> > It was a successful trip, we feel we've "achieved" a lot in fulfilling our 
> > dream of making someone else's life a little better - with one step at a 
> > time. We also did some sightseeing for ourselves. Overall, it was a hectic 
> > but a good trip.
> > 
> > It's great to be back home though!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > BTW, C'da: Ahem! how did you find the Delhi airport? :-)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Nor love thy life, nor hate; but what thou livest, Live well; how long or 
> > short, permit to Heav'n."
> > -John Milton 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Assam] ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’

[Ram Sarangapani]

>My gut feel is that nobody is so careless, particularly those on the take.

Not quite In fact, it could well be the other way. In India, corruption
has reached heady heights, and siphoning off  'thousands of crores of Rs',
is pretty common in the land of mega scams (and mega dams)... its done with
blatant impunity, and not a shock or surprise any more.

The sad part is, it is NOT considered even a tad bit shameless. They are
actually quite careless.

--Ram

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Chan Mahanta  wrote:

> > What was surprising (according to the news) is that some NRI's gave Akhil
> > Gogoi the low-down on this.
>
>
> *** We all know that not all NRIs are equal :-). We also know of  our
> folks'
> pervasive colonial-serfdom-inspired awe of NRIs is quite unfounded.
>
>
> >And this is how huge mountains are made out of molehills. :-).
>
> *** Personally, I won't jump to any conclusion, yet :-).
>
> *** It will be interesting to see IF any of these listed properties
> actually
> are titled to Trun Gogoi or his wife. If they are NOT,  there is little
> chance that Akhil Gogoi will be able to nail Tarun Gogoi on this.
> My gut feel is that nobody is so careless, particularly those on the take.
>
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>
> > Exactly my sentiments, C'da. When I saw the news item, and later this
> > forwarded here, I felt that at the very least there was a huge
> > misunderstanding of $ & cents, and how acquiring easy home loans is in
> this
> > country. The amounts are small as you put it.
> >
> > What was surprising (according to the news) is that some NRI's gave Akhil
> > Gogoi the low-down on this.
> >
> > And this is how huge mountains are made out of molehills. :-).
> >
> > --Ram
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Chan Mahanta 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I did a little quick math and the total value of these houses , approx.
> 18
> >> crore rupees, is really a puny
> >> amount by local standards, as far as housing value goes, $ 500,000 or
> so. A
> >> 3 BR. condominium
> >> like the one at Mountain View CA, itself would be almost 1.5 to 2 times
> the
> >> combined value of
> >> the three ( or is it four) houses/condos's reported value ( $ 600,000 to
> $
> >> 1,000,000).
> >>
> >> So, for one thing, the reported values mean little. For another, that CM
> >> Gogoi's son-in-law,
> >> from published accounts a Google executive, probably makes enough on HIS
> >> OWN to be able to
> >> afford  a $ 1,000,000 loan on one ( or a collection of houses) described
> >> here. People buy houses
> >> with long-term loans here, not with hard cash.
> >>
> >> Therefore, the value of the houses described could NOT be construed to
> >> point to the notion
> >> of assets disproportionate to the son-in-law's assets, leading to
>  casting
> >> aspersions on CM Gogoi
> >> or his wife being the financiers, from legitimate or corrupt sources.
> >>
> >> That may be the good news for CM Gogoi and his wife.
> >>
> >> The bad news probably lies elsewhere: the Ownership of the houses. Who
> >> is/are the Owners of these
> >> houses? The daughter and the son-in-law? The CM or his wife?
> >>
> >> Why that matters are:
> >>
> >> A: The son-in-law and the daughter are US residents, if not citizens. He
> >> probably earns enough, and she may too,
> >> to add to a tidy amount to be able to get a pretty good sized loan for a
> >> house in a high market value area like
> >> Mountatin View, California and Cambridge, MA ( home to MIT and Harvard
> >> etc.). But not so for  foreigners, like
> >> Tarun Gogoi or his wife, UNLESS they also have US Permanent Resident
> Visas
> >> ( Green Cards. They could
> >> however. That would be interesting to know if they do. Somebody should
> ask
> >> the CM that question.
> >>
> >> B: If they are not green-card holders, they probably bought them for
> cash.
> >> There is no reason for the son-in-law or
> >> daughter to purchase houses, on loan, for TG or his wife.  If any of
> these
> >> houses were bought with cash ( not on loan), that
> >> will be a good indication that someone other than the son-in-law or the
> >> daughter provided the cash. Be it the CM , or his wife,
> >> or some Hawala trader or some business owner or whoever.
> >>
> >> This could be easily verified from publicly available info. The
> >> lien-holders' names will be on the Titles of these houses
> >> if they are purchased with bank loans.
> >>
> >>
> >> Finally, EVEN if these houses were bought for cash and  from corrupt
> >> sources, the amounts are small fry, compared to those
> >> talked about in reference to Himanta Sarma for one. I am sure there are
> >> others. In that I agree with MM's view:
> >>
> >>   "See how large hearted he is!
> >>   He allows his henchman to take 4000Crores  and he  keeps only 18
> >> crores  as small tips."
> >>
> >>
> >> Just kidding!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 8, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Nav

Re: [Assam] ULFA's CHANGE OF HEART AFTER 30 YEARS

[Alpana B. Sarangapani]

Oxanti, Oxanti koi Xantik khedilu, etiahe bujilu taar mulya-he, Guru Xongkor









 


 

> From: baru...@hotmail.com
> To: assam@assamnet.org
> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 14:31:42 -0600
> Subject: [Assam] ULFA's CHANGE OF HEART AFTER 30 YEARS
> 
> 
> “We want dialogue without any pre-condition.-Arabinda
> 
> ULFA's change of heart.
> 
> 
> Militancy can’t solve problems: Arabinda
> CORRESPONDENT
> SONARI,
> Jan 9 – ULFA is now not in favour of solving problems of Assam through 
> militancy. “Militancy was not able to solve any problem in last 30 
> years. We want to solve the ethnic problems of Assam, so that a true 
> democratic atmosphere will prevail where every one will be free to speak
> up for the safety and security
> of Assamese people,” said ULFA chairman Arabinda Rajkhowa, alias Rajib 
> Rajkonwar, while interacting with local mediapersons at his Lakwa 
> residence this afternoon.Rajkhowa
> said no one was above the people of Assam. “We are not going to 
> compromise on anything secretly. We have no desire for power, nor do we 
> have anything to do with election. We want to solve the problems of 
> Assam through dialogue with dignity,” said Rajkhowa.He said that extradition 
> of Anup Chetia, general secretary of ULFA for holding general council meeting 
> was not a condition, but the Government of India was requested to bring 
> Chetia for the same.
> Reacting
> to a question whether ULFA gave up the demand for an independent Assam,
> Rajkhowa said, “We want dialogue without any pre-condition. We are not saying 
> anything regarding giving up the demand. The general council will decide in 
> this respect.”
> Rajkhowa said he and his compatriots were ready to face any action
> for Dhemaji blast or any other such unwarranted incident, but at the 
> same time the government must punish the culprits of secret killings of 
> Uma Gogoi’s family and Mithinga Daimari’s family and many others.He
> said he would not want to see another Dhemaji and hence he and his 
> organisation wanted a dignified solution to the problems of Assam. 
> Blaming the government for not responding to ULFA’s willingness for 
> dialogue with Indian government in the year 2005, he said now all the 
> people should come forward to solve the problems. 
> 
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[Assam] ULFA's CHANGE OF HEART AFTER 30 YEARS

[Rajen Barua]

 “We want dialogue without any pre-condition.-Arabinda

ULFA's change of heart.


Militancy can’t solve problems: Arabinda
CORRESPONDENT
 SONARI,
 Jan 9 – ULFA is now not in favour of solving problems of Assam through 
militancy. “Militancy was not able to solve any problem in last 30 
years. We want to solve the ethnic problems of Assam, so that a true 
democratic atmosphere will prevail where every one will be free to speak
 up for the safety and security
 of Assamese people,” said ULFA chairman Arabinda Rajkhowa, alias Rajib 
Rajkonwar, while interacting with local mediapersons at his Lakwa 
residence this afternoon.Rajkhowa
 said no one was above the people of Assam. “We are not going to 
compromise on anything secretly. We have no desire for power, nor do we 
have anything to do with election. We want to solve the problems of 
Assam through dialogue with dignity,” said Rajkhowa.He said that extradition of 
Anup Chetia, general secretary of ULFA for holding general council meeting was 
not a condition, but the Government of India was requested to bring Chetia for 
the same.
Reacting
 to a question whether ULFA gave up the demand for an independent Assam,
 Rajkhowa said, “We want dialogue without any pre-condition. We are not saying 
anything regarding giving up the demand. The general council will decide in 
this respect.”
Rajkhowa said he and his compatriots were ready to face any action
 for Dhemaji blast or any other such unwarranted incident, but at the 
same time the government must punish the culprits of secret killings of 
Uma Gogoi’s family and Mithinga Daimari’s family and many others.He
 said he would not want to see another Dhemaji and hence he and his 
organisation wanted a dignified solution to the problems of Assam. 
Blaming the government for not responding to ULFA’s willingness for 
dialogue with Indian government in the year 2005, he said now all the 
people should come forward to solve the problems. 

  
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Re: [Assam] ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’

[Alpana B. Sarangapani]

For India:
Even a flat (with 3+ bedrooms) could cost crores of rupees in the metropolitan 
cities in India.  Even ordinary people like us talk in lakhs, if not in crores. 
 
For the US:
For 2 professionals having 2 houses (especially in the NE part where real 
estate carries an inflated rate) of 3+ million dollars is not a big issue. 
 

So, here or there, if people forget to see the amount, then only will this 
become a sensational news. 
 
> >> "See how large hearted he is!
> >> He allows his henchman to take 4000Crores and he keeps only 18
> >> crores as small tips."

 
I really heard that TG himself is a good man, probably not a good 
administrator? But only during his tenure I've heard of the government giving 
away computers to the 1st division holders, regardless of their class or 
caster, instead of all scholarships going to different categories in olden 
days. 
 
But i don't live there to see or feel everyday's happenings, so I can't say 
much. But I also see that 'lonkaloi jiyei jaai, xiyei Ravan hoi' or amonst all 
corrupted hayenas, an honest and innocent fella can't survive for long, 
literally. So, again, I won't know. 
 


 
 


 

> From: cmaha...@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 13:41:27 -0600
> To: assam@assamnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Assam] ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’
> 
> > What was surprising (according to the news) is that some NRI's gave Akhil
> > Gogoi the low-down on this.
> 
> 
> *** We all know that not all NRIs are equal :-). We also know of our folks' 
> pervasive colonial-serfdom-inspired awe of NRIs is quite unfounded.
> 
> 
> >And this is how huge mountains are made out of molehills. :-).
> 
> *** Personally, I won't jump to any conclusion, yet :-).
> 
> *** It will be interesting to see IF any of these listed properties actually 
> are titled to Trun Gogoi or his wife. If they are NOT, there is little 
> chance that Akhil Gogoi will be able to nail Tarun Gogoi on this.
> My gut feel is that nobody is so careless, particularly those on the take.
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> 
> > Exactly my sentiments, C'da. When I saw the news item, and later this
> > forwarded here, I felt that at the very least there was a huge
> > misunderstanding of $ & cents, and how acquiring easy home loans is in this
> > country. The amounts are small as you put it.
> > 
> > What was surprising (according to the news) is that some NRI's gave Akhil
> > Gogoi the low-down on this.
> > 
> > And this is how huge mountains are made out of molehills. :-).
> > 
> > --Ram
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Chan Mahanta  wrote:
> > 
> >> I did a little quick math and the total value of these houses , approx. 18
> >> crore rupees, is really a puny
> >> amount by local standards, as far as housing value goes, $ 500,000 or so. A
> >> 3 BR. condominium
> >> like the one at Mountain View CA, itself would be almost 1.5 to 2 times the
> >> combined value of
> >> the three ( or is it four) houses/condos's reported value ( $ 600,000 to $
> >> 1,000,000).
> >> 
> >> So, for one thing, the reported values mean little. For another, that CM
> >> Gogoi's son-in-law,
> >> from published accounts a Google executive, probably makes enough on HIS
> >> OWN to be able to
> >> afford a $ 1,000,000 loan on one ( or a collection of houses) described
> >> here. People buy houses
> >> with long-term loans here, not with hard cash.
> >> 
> >> Therefore, the value of the houses described could NOT be construed to
> >> point to the notion
> >> of assets disproportionate to the son-in-law's assets, leading to casting
> >> aspersions on CM Gogoi
> >> or his wife being the financiers, from legitimate or corrupt sources.
> >> 
> >> That may be the good news for CM Gogoi and his wife.
> >> 
> >> The bad news probably lies elsewhere: the Ownership of the houses. Who
> >> is/are the Owners of these
> >> houses? The daughter and the son-in-law? The CM or his wife?
> >> 
> >> Why that matters are:
> >> 
> >> A: The son-in-law and the daughter are US residents, if not citizens. He
> >> probably earns enough, and she may too,
> >> to add to a tidy amount to be able to get a pretty good sized loan for a
> >> house in a high market value area like
> >> Mountatin View, California and Cambridge, MA ( home to MIT and Harvard
> >> etc.). But not so for foreigners, like
> >> Tarun Gogoi or his wife, UNLESS they also have US Permanent Resident Visas
> >> ( Green Cards. They could
> >> however. That would be interesting to know if they do. Somebody should ask
> >> the CM that question.
> >> 
> >> B: If they are not green-card holders, they probably bought them for cash.
> >> There is no reason for the son-in-law or
> >> daughter to purchase houses, on loan, for TG or his wife. If any of these
> >> houses were bought with cash ( not on loan), that
> >> will be a good indication that someone other than the son-in-law or the
> >> daughter provided the cash. Be it the CM , or his w

[Assam] Fwd: Study Guides & Strategies 2010 annual report

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Re: [Assam] ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’

[Chan Mahanta]

> What was surprising (according to the news) is that some NRI's gave Akhil
> Gogoi the low-down on this.


*** We all know that not all NRIs are equal :-). We also know of  our folks' 
pervasive colonial-serfdom-inspired awe of NRIs is quite unfounded.


>And this is how huge mountains are made out of molehills. :-).

*** Personally, I won't jump to any conclusion, yet :-).

*** It will be interesting to see IF any of these listed properties actually 
are titled to Trun Gogoi or his wife. If they are NOT,  there is little 
chance that Akhil Gogoi will be able to nail Tarun Gogoi on this.
My gut feel is that nobody is so careless, particularly those on the take.



On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:

> Exactly my sentiments, C'da. When I saw the news item, and later this
> forwarded here, I felt that at the very least there was a huge
> misunderstanding of $ & cents, and how acquiring easy home loans is in this
> country. The amounts are small as you put it.
> 
> What was surprising (according to the news) is that some NRI's gave Akhil
> Gogoi the low-down on this.
> 
> And this is how huge mountains are made out of molehills. :-).
> 
> --Ram
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Chan Mahanta  wrote:
> 
>> I did a little quick math and the total value of these houses , approx. 18
>> crore rupees, is really a puny
>> amount by local standards, as far as housing value goes, $ 500,000 or so. A
>> 3 BR. condominium
>> like the one at Mountain View CA, itself would be almost 1.5 to 2 times the
>> combined value of
>> the three ( or is it four) houses/condos's reported value ( $ 600,000 to $
>> 1,000,000).
>> 
>> So, for one thing, the reported values mean little. For another, that CM
>> Gogoi's son-in-law,
>> from published accounts a Google executive, probably makes enough on HIS
>> OWN to be able to
>> afford  a $ 1,000,000 loan on one ( or a collection of houses) described
>> here. People buy houses
>> with long-term loans here, not with hard cash.
>> 
>> Therefore, the value of the houses described could NOT be construed to
>> point to the notion
>> of assets disproportionate to the son-in-law's assets, leading to  casting
>> aspersions on CM Gogoi
>> or his wife being the financiers, from legitimate or corrupt sources.
>> 
>> That may be the good news for CM Gogoi and his wife.
>> 
>> The bad news probably lies elsewhere: the Ownership of the houses. Who
>> is/are the Owners of these
>> houses? The daughter and the son-in-law? The CM or his wife?
>> 
>> Why that matters are:
>> 
>> A: The son-in-law and the daughter are US residents, if not citizens. He
>> probably earns enough, and she may too,
>> to add to a tidy amount to be able to get a pretty good sized loan for a
>> house in a high market value area like
>> Mountatin View, California and Cambridge, MA ( home to MIT and Harvard
>> etc.). But not so for  foreigners, like
>> Tarun Gogoi or his wife, UNLESS they also have US Permanent Resident Visas
>> ( Green Cards. They could
>> however. That would be interesting to know if they do. Somebody should ask
>> the CM that question.
>> 
>> B: If they are not green-card holders, they probably bought them for cash.
>> There is no reason for the son-in-law or
>> daughter to purchase houses, on loan, for TG or his wife.  If any of these
>> houses were bought with cash ( not on loan), that
>> will be a good indication that someone other than the son-in-law or the
>> daughter provided the cash. Be it the CM , or his wife,
>> or some Hawala trader or some business owner or whoever.
>> 
>> This could be easily verified from publicly available info. The
>> lien-holders' names will be on the Titles of these houses
>> if they are purchased with bank loans.
>> 
>> 
>> Finally, EVEN if these houses were bought for cash and  from corrupt
>> sources, the amounts are small fry, compared to those
>> talked about in reference to Himanta Sarma for one. I am sure there are
>> others. In that I agree with MM's view:
>> 
>>   "See how large hearted he is!
>>   He allows his henchman to take 4000Crores  and he  keeps only 18
>> crores  as small tips."
>> 
>> 
>> Just kidding!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 8, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Nava Thakuria wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Gogoi involved in embezzlement: KMSS
>>> 
>>> GUWAHATI, Jan 8 – Peasant organisation Krishak Mukti Sangram Samiti today
>>> alleged that Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi is involved in embezzling the
>> public
>>> money of the State and part of the money laundered by him has been
>> siphoned off
>>> to the US to procure property there in the names of members of his
>> family.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’
>>> The peasant organisation also demanded a CBI inquiry into the allegation
>> and
>>> dared the Chief Minister to make a public statement on the source of the
>> money
>>> used in procuring property in the US.
>>> 
>>> Addressing mediapersons at a press conference here thi

Re: [Assam] ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’

[amlan saha]

143 Albany Street, Cambridge, MA, the address listed in the article is
actually the Edgerton House at MIT, a student residence.

http://eh.mit.edu/about/eha/

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:25 PM, amlan saha  wrote:

> Cannot speak for the other addresses in the article but Albany Street,
> Cambridge, MA is mostly MIT property (I live in Cambridge); looks to me like
> a cut and paste job from some associated (with his son-in-law or daughter?)
> mention of the address as a place of residence for graduate studies?
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Chan Mahanta  wrote:
>
>> I did a little quick math and the total value of these houses , approx. 18
>> crore rupees, is really a puny
>> amount by local standards, as far as housing value goes, $ 500,000 or so.
>> A 3 BR. condominium
>> like the one at Mountain View CA, itself would be almost 1.5 to 2 times
>> the combined value of
>> the three ( or is it four) houses/condos's reported value ( $ 600,000 to $
>> 1,000,000).
>>
>> So, for one thing, the reported values mean little. For another, that CM
>> Gogoi's son-in-law,
>> from published accounts a Google executive, probably makes enough on HIS
>> OWN to be able to
>> afford  a $ 1,000,000 loan on one ( or a collection of houses) described
>> here. People buy houses
>> with long-term loans here, not with hard cash.
>>
>> Therefore, the value of the houses described could NOT be construed to
>> point to the notion
>> of assets disproportionate to the son-in-law's assets, leading to  casting
>> aspersions on CM Gogoi
>> or his wife being the financiers, from legitimate or corrupt sources.
>>
>> That may be the good news for CM Gogoi and his wife.
>>
>> The bad news probably lies elsewhere: the Ownership of the houses. Who
>> is/are the Owners of these
>> houses? The daughter and the son-in-law? The CM or his wife?
>>
>> Why that matters are:
>>
>> A: The son-in-law and the daughter are US residents, if not citizens. He
>> probably earns enough, and she may too,
>> to add to a tidy amount to be able to get a pretty good sized loan for a
>> house in a high market value area like
>> Mountatin View, California and Cambridge, MA ( home to MIT and Harvard
>> etc.). But not so for  foreigners, like
>> Tarun Gogoi or his wife, UNLESS they also have US Permanent Resident Visas
>> ( Green Cards. They could
>> however. That would be interesting to know if they do. Somebody should ask
>> the CM that question.
>>
>> B: If they are not green-card holders, they probably bought them for cash.
>> There is no reason for the son-in-law or
>> daughter to purchase houses, on loan, for TG or his wife.  If any of these
>> houses were bought with cash ( not on loan), that
>> will be a good indication that someone other than the son-in-law or the
>> daughter provided the cash. Be it the CM , or his wife,
>> or some Hawala trader or some business owner or whoever.
>>
>> This could be easily verified from publicly available info. The
>> lien-holders' names will be on the Titles of these houses
>> if they are purchased with bank loans.
>>
>>
>> Finally, EVEN if these houses were bought for cash and  from corrupt
>> sources, the amounts are small fry, compared to those
>> talked about in reference to Himanta Sarma for one. I am sure there are
>> others. In that I agree with MM's view:
>>
>>"See how large hearted he is!
>>He allows his henchman to take 4000Crores  and he  keeps only 18
>> crores  as small tips."
>>
>>
>> Just kidding!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Nava Thakuria wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Gogoi involved in embezzlement: KMSS
>> >
>> > GUWAHATI, Jan 8 – Peasant organisation Krishak Mukti Sangram Samiti
>> today
>> > alleged that Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi is involved in embezzling the
>> public
>> > money of the State and part of the money laundered by him has been
>> siphoned off
>> > to the US to procure property there in the names of members of his
>> family.
>> >
>> >
>> > ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’
>> > The peasant organisation also demanded a CBI inquiry into the allegation
>> and
>> > dared the Chief Minister to make a public statement on the source of the
>> money
>> > used in procuring property in the US.
>> >
>> > Addressing mediapersons at a press conference here this afternoon, KMSS
>> > secretary Akhil Gogoi alleged that the Chief Minister has several houses
>> in the
>> > US in the names of his wife Dolly Gogoi (12700 W Dodge Road, Omaha NE
>> 69154),
>> > daughter Chandrima Gogoi (701 Berry Ave, Los Angeles C A 94024) and
>> son-in-law
>> > Prasenjit Phukan (178 Ownes Ct Mountain View C A 94043; 143 Albany St,
>> Cambridge
>> > MA 02139 and Los Altos CA 94022).
>> >
>> > The money value of these houses when added together would be Rs 17, 88,
>> 45, 050.
>> > His daughter had declared while acquiring the property that her average
>> annual
>> > income was Rs 64, 42, 650, while her husband Prasenjit Phukan had made
>> three
>> > declarations s

Re: [Assam] ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’

[Chan Mahanta]

>mention of the address as a place of residence for graduate studies.

*** Very likely! 

Also, the various incomes shown for the daughter and son-in-law could be 
explained by 
income at the time for applying fo a loan. Over a number of years they would 
change.







On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:25 PM, amlan saha wrote:

> Cannot speak for the other addresses in the article but Albany Street,
> Cambridge, MA is mostly MIT property (I live in Cambridge); looks to me like
> a cut and paste job from some associated (with his son-in-law or daughter?)
> mention of the address as a place of residence for graduate studies?
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Chan Mahanta  wrote:
> 
>> I did a little quick math and the total value of these houses , approx. 18
>> crore rupees, is really a puny
>> amount by local standards, as far as housing value goes, $ 500,000 or so. A
>> 3 BR. condominium
>> like the one at Mountain View CA, itself would be almost 1.5 to 2 times the
>> combined value of
>> the three ( or is it four) houses/condos's reported value ( $ 600,000 to $
>> 1,000,000).
>> 
>> So, for one thing, the reported values mean little. For another, that CM
>> Gogoi's son-in-law,
>> from published accounts a Google executive, probably makes enough on HIS
>> OWN to be able to
>> afford  a $ 1,000,000 loan on one ( or a collection of houses) described
>> here. People buy houses
>> with long-term loans here, not with hard cash.
>> 
>> Therefore, the value of the houses described could NOT be construed to
>> point to the notion
>> of assets disproportionate to the son-in-law's assets, leading to  casting
>> aspersions on CM Gogoi
>> or his wife being the financiers, from legitimate or corrupt sources.
>> 
>> That may be the good news for CM Gogoi and his wife.
>> 
>> The bad news probably lies elsewhere: the Ownership of the houses. Who
>> is/are the Owners of these
>> houses? The daughter and the son-in-law? The CM or his wife?
>> 
>> Why that matters are:
>> 
>> A: The son-in-law and the daughter are US residents, if not citizens. He
>> probably earns enough, and she may too,
>> to add to a tidy amount to be able to get a pretty good sized loan for a
>> house in a high market value area like
>> Mountatin View, California and Cambridge, MA ( home to MIT and Harvard
>> etc.). But not so for  foreigners, like
>> Tarun Gogoi or his wife, UNLESS they also have US Permanent Resident Visas
>> ( Green Cards. They could
>> however. That would be interesting to know if they do. Somebody should ask
>> the CM that question.
>> 
>> B: If they are not green-card holders, they probably bought them for cash.
>> There is no reason for the son-in-law or
>> daughter to purchase houses, on loan, for TG or his wife.  If any of these
>> houses were bought with cash ( not on loan), that
>> will be a good indication that someone other than the son-in-law or the
>> daughter provided the cash. Be it the CM , or his wife,
>> or some Hawala trader or some business owner or whoever.
>> 
>> This could be easily verified from publicly available info. The
>> lien-holders' names will be on the Titles of these houses
>> if they are purchased with bank loans.
>> 
>> 
>> Finally, EVEN if these houses were bought for cash and  from corrupt
>> sources, the amounts are small fry, compared to those
>> talked about in reference to Himanta Sarma for one. I am sure there are
>> others. In that I agree with MM's view:
>> 
>>   "See how large hearted he is!
>>   He allows his henchman to take 4000Crores  and he  keeps only 18
>> crores  as small tips."
>> 
>> 
>> Just kidding!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 8, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Nava Thakuria wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Gogoi involved in embezzlement: KMSS
>>> 
>>> GUWAHATI, Jan 8 – Peasant organisation Krishak Mukti Sangram Samiti today
>>> alleged that Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi is involved in embezzling the
>> public
>>> money of the State and part of the money laundered by him has been
>> siphoned off
>>> to the US to procure property there in the names of members of his
>> family.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’
>>> The peasant organisation also demanded a CBI inquiry into the allegation
>> and
>>> dared the Chief Minister to make a public statement on the source of the
>> money
>>> used in procuring property in the US.
>>> 
>>> Addressing mediapersons at a press conference here this afternoon, KMSS
>>> secretary Akhil Gogoi alleged that the Chief Minister has several houses
>> in the
>>> US in the names of his wife Dolly Gogoi (12700 W Dodge Road, Omaha NE
>> 69154),
>>> daughter Chandrima Gogoi (701 Berry Ave, Los Angeles C A 94024) and
>> son-in-law
>>> Prasenjit Phukan (178 Ownes Ct Mountain View C A 94043; 143 Albany St,
>> Cambridge
>>> MA 02139 and Los Altos CA 94022).
>>> 
>>> The money value of these houses when added together would be Rs 17, 88,
>> 45, 050.
>>> His daughter had declared while acquiring the property that her avera

Re: [Assam] ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’

[Chan Mahanta]

Oooops!  You are right. Just realized that my calculator does not go beyond 8 
numerals, thus the inability to 
do simple arithmetic :-).

But from the corrected numbers, it is unlikely that the listed houses would add 
to $ 5,000,000. If we 
take the MOountainview, CA condo at $1,000,000, the one in Omaha at $ 300,000, 
the Condo at Cambridge 
also at $1,000,000 --for a total of 2.3 million,  what accounts for the rest? 
The Huge building shown in the Sentinel,
obviously is a commercial structure,certainly far more than $5 million by 
itself. So it looks like Alhil Gogoi's info.
providers did a poor job.

>However, in the scheme of things that is being talked about, a factor of 10 is 
>not important.

Yeah, I agree  on that :-).

cm





On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:16 PM, Dilip Deka wrote:

> No issues with anything you said except "I did a little quick math and the 
> total value of these houses , approx. 18 crore rupees, is really a puny 
> amount by local standards, as far as housing value goes, $ 500,000 or so."
> Eta xunyo iphal xiphal hwl. 18 crore rupees translates to about $5,000,000. 
> However, in the scheme of things that is being talked about, a factor of 10 
> is not important.
> 
> From: Chan Mahanta 
> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
> 
> Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 12:56:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Assam] ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’
> 
> I did a little quick math and the total value of these houses , approx. 18 
> crore rupees, is really a puny 
> amount by local standards, as far as housing value goes, $ 500,000 or so. A 3 
> BR. condominium
> like the one at Mountain View CA, itself would be almost 1.5 to 2 times the 
> combined value of 
> the three ( or is it four) houses/condos's reported value ( $ 600,000 to $ 
> 1,000,000). 
> 
> So, for one thing, the reported values mean little. For another, that CM 
> Gogoi's son-in-law,
> from published accounts a Google executive, probably makes enough on HIS OWN 
> to be able to 
> afford  a $ 1,000,000 loan on one ( or a collection of houses) described 
> here. People buy houses
> with long-term loans here, not with hard cash.
> 
> Therefore, the value of the houses described could NOT be construed to point 
> to the notion
> of assets disproportionate to the son-in-law's assets, leading to  casting 
> aspersions on CM Gogoi
> or his wife being the financiers, from legitimate or corrupt sources. 
> 
> That may be the good news for CM Gogoi and his wife.
> 
> The bad news probably lies elsewhere: the Ownership of the houses. Who is/are 
> the Owners of these
> houses? The daughter and the son-in-law? The CM or his wife?
> 
> Why that matters are:
> 
> A: The son-in-law and the daughter are US residents, if not citizens. He 
> probably earns enough, and she may too,
> to add to a tidy amount to be able to get a pretty good sized loan for a 
> house in a high market value area like
> Mountatin View, California and Cambridge, MA ( home to MIT and Harvard etc.). 
> But not so for  foreigners, like 
> Tarun Gogoi or his wife, UNLESS they also have US Permanent Resident Visas ( 
> Green Cards. They could
> however. That would be interesting to know if they do. Somebody should ask 
> the CM that question.
> 
> B: If they are not green-card holders, they probably bought them for cash. 
> There is no reason for the son-in-law or 
> daughter to purchase houses, on loan, for TG or his wife.  If any of these 
> houses were bought with cash ( not on loan), that 
> will be a good indication that someone other than the son-in-law or the 
> daughter provided the cash. Be it the CM , or his wife, 
> or some Hawala trader or some business owner or whoever.
> 
> This could be easily verified from publicly available info. The lien-holders' 
> names will be on the Titles of these houses
> if they are purchased with bank loans.
> 
> 
> Finally, EVEN if these houses were bought for cash and  from corrupt sources, 
> the amounts are small fry, compared to those
> talked about in reference to Himanta Sarma for one. I am sure there are 
> others. In that I agree with MM's view:
> 
> "See how large hearted he is!
> He allows his henchman to take 4000Crores  and he  keeps only 18 crores  
> as small tips."
> 
> 
> Just kidding!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 8, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Nava Thakuria wrote:
> 
> >  
> > Gogoi involved in embezzlement: KMSS
> > 
> > GUWAHATI, Jan 8 – Peasant organisation Krishak Mukti Sangram Samiti today 
> > alleged that Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi is involved in embezzling the 
> > public 
> > money of the State and part of the money laundered by him has been siphoned 
> > off 
> > to the US to procure property there in the names of members of his family. 
> > 
> >  
> > ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’ 
> > The peasant organisation also demanded a CBI inquiry into the allegation 
> > and 
> > dared the Chief Minister to make a public statement on the sour

Re: [Assam] ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’

[amlan saha]

Cannot speak for the other addresses in the article but Albany Street,
Cambridge, MA is mostly MIT property (I live in Cambridge); looks to me like
a cut and paste job from some associated (with his son-in-law or daughter?)
mention of the address as a place of residence for graduate studies?


On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Chan Mahanta  wrote:

> I did a little quick math and the total value of these houses , approx. 18
> crore rupees, is really a puny
> amount by local standards, as far as housing value goes, $ 500,000 or so. A
> 3 BR. condominium
> like the one at Mountain View CA, itself would be almost 1.5 to 2 times the
> combined value of
> the three ( or is it four) houses/condos's reported value ( $ 600,000 to $
> 1,000,000).
>
> So, for one thing, the reported values mean little. For another, that CM
> Gogoi's son-in-law,
> from published accounts a Google executive, probably makes enough on HIS
> OWN to be able to
> afford  a $ 1,000,000 loan on one ( or a collection of houses) described
> here. People buy houses
> with long-term loans here, not with hard cash.
>
> Therefore, the value of the houses described could NOT be construed to
> point to the notion
> of assets disproportionate to the son-in-law's assets, leading to  casting
> aspersions on CM Gogoi
> or his wife being the financiers, from legitimate or corrupt sources.
>
> That may be the good news for CM Gogoi and his wife.
>
> The bad news probably lies elsewhere: the Ownership of the houses. Who
> is/are the Owners of these
> houses? The daughter and the son-in-law? The CM or his wife?
>
> Why that matters are:
>
> A: The son-in-law and the daughter are US residents, if not citizens. He
> probably earns enough, and she may too,
> to add to a tidy amount to be able to get a pretty good sized loan for a
> house in a high market value area like
> Mountatin View, California and Cambridge, MA ( home to MIT and Harvard
> etc.). But not so for  foreigners, like
> Tarun Gogoi or his wife, UNLESS they also have US Permanent Resident Visas
> ( Green Cards. They could
> however. That would be interesting to know if they do. Somebody should ask
> the CM that question.
>
> B: If they are not green-card holders, they probably bought them for cash.
> There is no reason for the son-in-law or
> daughter to purchase houses, on loan, for TG or his wife.  If any of these
> houses were bought with cash ( not on loan), that
> will be a good indication that someone other than the son-in-law or the
> daughter provided the cash. Be it the CM , or his wife,
> or some Hawala trader or some business owner or whoever.
>
> This could be easily verified from publicly available info. The
> lien-holders' names will be on the Titles of these houses
> if they are purchased with bank loans.
>
>
> Finally, EVEN if these houses were bought for cash and  from corrupt
> sources, the amounts are small fry, compared to those
> talked about in reference to Himanta Sarma for one. I am sure there are
> others. In that I agree with MM's view:
>
>"See how large hearted he is!
>He allows his henchman to take 4000Crores  and he  keeps only 18
> crores  as small tips."
>
>
> Just kidding!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Nava Thakuria wrote:
>
> >
> > Gogoi involved in embezzlement: KMSS
> >
> > GUWAHATI, Jan 8 – Peasant organisation Krishak Mukti Sangram Samiti today
> > alleged that Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi is involved in embezzling the
> public
> > money of the State and part of the money laundered by him has been
> siphoned off
> > to the US to procure property there in the names of members of his
> family.
> >
> >
> > ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’
> > The peasant organisation also demanded a CBI inquiry into the allegation
> and
> > dared the Chief Minister to make a public statement on the source of the
> money
> > used in procuring property in the US.
> >
> > Addressing mediapersons at a press conference here this afternoon, KMSS
> > secretary Akhil Gogoi alleged that the Chief Minister has several houses
> in the
> > US in the names of his wife Dolly Gogoi (12700 W Dodge Road, Omaha NE
> 69154),
> > daughter Chandrima Gogoi (701 Berry Ave, Los Angeles C A 94024) and
> son-in-law
> > Prasenjit Phukan (178 Ownes Ct Mountain View C A 94043; 143 Albany St,
> Cambridge
> > MA 02139 and Los Altos CA 94022).
> >
> > The money value of these houses when added together would be Rs 17, 88,
> 45, 050.
> > His daughter had declared while acquiring the property that her average
> annual
> > income was Rs 64, 42, 650, while her husband Prasenjit Phukan had made
> three
> > declarations stating that his average annual incomes were Rs 64, 42, 650,
> Rs 34,
> > 36,050 and Rs 72, 71, 250. Chief Minster's wife Dolly Gogoi declared that
> her
> > average annual income was Rs 29, 18, 650.
> >
> > The peasant organisation alleged that the Chief Minister requisitioned
> the
> > services of his 'scam-tainted' Ministerial colleague Himant

Re: [Assam] ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’

[Ram Sarangapani]

Exactly my sentiments, C'da. When I saw the news item, and later this
forwarded here, I felt that at the very least there was a huge
misunderstanding of $ & cents, and how acquiring easy home loans is in this
country. The amounts are small as you put it.

What was surprising (according to the news) is that some NRI's gave Akhil
Gogoi the low-down on this.

And this is how huge mountains are made out of molehills. :-).

--Ram





On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Chan Mahanta  wrote:

> I did a little quick math and the total value of these houses , approx. 18
> crore rupees, is really a puny
> amount by local standards, as far as housing value goes, $ 500,000 or so. A
> 3 BR. condominium
> like the one at Mountain View CA, itself would be almost 1.5 to 2 times the
> combined value of
> the three ( or is it four) houses/condos's reported value ( $ 600,000 to $
> 1,000,000).
>
> So, for one thing, the reported values mean little. For another, that CM
> Gogoi's son-in-law,
> from published accounts a Google executive, probably makes enough on HIS
> OWN to be able to
> afford  a $ 1,000,000 loan on one ( or a collection of houses) described
> here. People buy houses
> with long-term loans here, not with hard cash.
>
> Therefore, the value of the houses described could NOT be construed to
> point to the notion
> of assets disproportionate to the son-in-law's assets, leading to  casting
> aspersions on CM Gogoi
> or his wife being the financiers, from legitimate or corrupt sources.
>
> That may be the good news for CM Gogoi and his wife.
>
> The bad news probably lies elsewhere: the Ownership of the houses. Who
> is/are the Owners of these
> houses? The daughter and the son-in-law? The CM or his wife?
>
> Why that matters are:
>
> A: The son-in-law and the daughter are US residents, if not citizens. He
> probably earns enough, and she may too,
> to add to a tidy amount to be able to get a pretty good sized loan for a
> house in a high market value area like
> Mountatin View, California and Cambridge, MA ( home to MIT and Harvard
> etc.). But not so for  foreigners, like
> Tarun Gogoi or his wife, UNLESS they also have US Permanent Resident Visas
> ( Green Cards. They could
> however. That would be interesting to know if they do. Somebody should ask
> the CM that question.
>
> B: If they are not green-card holders, they probably bought them for cash.
> There is no reason for the son-in-law or
> daughter to purchase houses, on loan, for TG or his wife.  If any of these
> houses were bought with cash ( not on loan), that
> will be a good indication that someone other than the son-in-law or the
> daughter provided the cash. Be it the CM , or his wife,
> or some Hawala trader or some business owner or whoever.
>
> This could be easily verified from publicly available info. The
> lien-holders' names will be on the Titles of these houses
> if they are purchased with bank loans.
>
>
> Finally, EVEN if these houses were bought for cash and  from corrupt
> sources, the amounts are small fry, compared to those
> talked about in reference to Himanta Sarma for one. I am sure there are
> others. In that I agree with MM's view:
>
>"See how large hearted he is!
>He allows his henchman to take 4000Crores  and he  keeps only 18
> crores  as small tips."
>
>
> Just kidding!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Nava Thakuria wrote:
>
> >
> > Gogoi involved in embezzlement: KMSS
> >
> > GUWAHATI, Jan 8 – Peasant organisation Krishak Mukti Sangram Samiti today
> > alleged that Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi is involved in embezzling the
> public
> > money of the State and part of the money laundered by him has been
> siphoned off
> > to the US to procure property there in the names of members of his
> family.
> >
> >
> > ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’
> > The peasant organisation also demanded a CBI inquiry into the allegation
> and
> > dared the Chief Minister to make a public statement on the source of the
> money
> > used in procuring property in the US.
> >
> > Addressing mediapersons at a press conference here this afternoon, KMSS
> > secretary Akhil Gogoi alleged that the Chief Minister has several houses
> in the
> > US in the names of his wife Dolly Gogoi (12700 W Dodge Road, Omaha NE
> 69154),
> > daughter Chandrima Gogoi (701 Berry Ave, Los Angeles C A 94024) and
> son-in-law
> > Prasenjit Phukan (178 Ownes Ct Mountain View C A 94043; 143 Albany St,
> Cambridge
> > MA 02139 and Los Altos CA 94022).
> >
> > The money value of these houses when added together would be Rs 17, 88,
> 45, 050.
> > His daughter had declared while acquiring the property that her average
> annual
> > income was Rs 64, 42, 650, while her husband Prasenjit Phukan had made
> three
> > declarations stating that his average annual incomes were Rs 64, 42, 650,
> Rs 34,
> > 36,050 and Rs 72, 71, 250. Chief Minster's wife Dolly Gogoi declared that
> her
> > average annual income was Rs 29, 18, 650.
> >
> > 

Re: [Assam] ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’

[Dilip Deka]

No issues with anything you said except "I did a little quick math and the 
total 
value of these houses , approx. 18 crore rupees, is really a puny 

amount by local standards, as far as housing value goes, $ 500,000 or so."
Eta xunyo iphal xiphal hwl. 18 crore rupees translates to about $5,000,000. 
However, in the scheme of things that is being talked about, a factor of 10 is 
not important.





From: Chan Mahanta 
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 

Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 12:56:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’

I did a little quick math and the total value of these houses , approx. 18 
crore 
rupees, is really a puny 

amount by local standards, as far as housing value goes, $ 500,000 or so. A 3 
BR. condominium
like the one at Mountain View CA, itself would be almost 1.5 to 2 times the 
combined value of 

the three ( or is it four) houses/condos's reported value ( $ 600,000 to $ 
1,000,000). 


So, for one thing, the reported values mean little. For another, that CM 
Gogoi's 
son-in-law,
from published accounts a Google executive, probably makes enough on HIS OWN to 
be able to 

afford  a $ 1,000,000 loan on one ( or a collection of houses) described here. 
People buy houses
with long-term loans here, not with hard cash.

Therefore, the value of the houses described could NOT be construed to point to 
the notion
of assets disproportionate to the son-in-law's assets, leading to  casting 
aspersions on CM Gogoi
or his wife being the financiers, from legitimate or corrupt sources. 

That may be the good news for CM Gogoi and his wife.

The bad news probably lies elsewhere: the Ownership of the houses. Who is/are 
the Owners of these
houses? The daughter and the son-in-law? The CM or his wife?

Why that matters are:

A: The son-in-law and the daughter are US residents, if not citizens. He 
probably earns enough, and she may too,
to add to a tidy amount to be able to get a pretty good sized loan for a house 
in a high market value area like
Mountatin View, California and Cambridge, MA ( home to MIT and Harvard etc.). 
But not so for  foreigners, like 

Tarun Gogoi or his wife, UNLESS they also have US Permanent Resident Visas ( 
Green Cards. They could
however. That would be interesting to know if they do. Somebody should ask the 
CM that question.

B: If they are not green-card holders, they probably bought them for cash. 
There 
is no reason for the son-in-law or 

daughter to purchase houses, on loan, for TG or his wife.  If any of these 
houses were bought with cash ( not on loan), that 

will be a good indication that someone other than the son-in-law or the 
daughter 
provided the cash. Be it the CM , or his wife, 

or some Hawala trader or some business owner or whoever.

This could be easily verified from publicly available info. The lien-holders' 
names will be on the Titles of these houses
if they are purchased with bank loans.


Finally, EVEN if these houses were bought for cash and  from corrupt sources, 
the amounts are small fry, compared to those
talked about in reference to Himanta Sarma for one. I am sure there are others. 
In that I agree with MM's view:

    "See how large hearted he is!
    He allows his henchman to take 4000Crores  and he  keeps only 18 crores  as 
small tips."


Just kidding!















On Jan 8, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Nava Thakuria wrote:

>  
> Gogoi involved in embezzlement: KMSS
> 
> GUWAHATI, Jan 8 – Peasant organisation Krishak Mukti Sangram Samiti today 
> alleged that Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi is involved in embezzling the public 
> money of the State and part of the money laundered by him has been siphoned 
> off 
>
> to the US to procure property there in the names of members of his family. 
> 
>  
> ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’ 
> The peasant organisation also demanded a CBI inquiry into the allegation and 
> dared the Chief Minister to make a public statement on the source of the 
> money 

> used in procuring property in the US. 
> 
> Addressing mediapersons at a press conference here this afternoon, KMSS 
> secretary Akhil Gogoi alleged that the Chief Minister has several houses in 
> the 
>
> US in the names of his wife Dolly Gogoi (12700 W Dodge Road, Omaha NE 69154), 
> daughter Chandrima Gogoi (701 Berry Ave, Los Angeles C A 94024) and 
> son-in-law 

> Prasenjit Phukan (178 Ownes Ct Mountain View C A 94043; 143 Albany St, 
>Cambridge 
>
> MA 02139 and Los Altos CA 94022). 
> 
> The money value of these houses when added together would be Rs 17, 88, 45, 
>050. 
>
> His daughter had declared while acquiring the property that her average 
> annual 

> income was Rs 64, 42, 650, while her husband Prasenjit Phukan had made three 
> declarations stating that his average annual incomes were Rs 64, 42, 650, Rs 
>34, 
>
> 36,050 and Rs 72, 71, 250. Chief Minster's wife Dolly Gogoi declared that her 
> average annual income wa

Re: [Assam] ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’

[Chan Mahanta]

I did a little quick math and the total value of these houses , approx. 18 
crore rupees, is really a puny 
amount by local standards, as far as housing value goes, $ 500,000 or so. A 3 
BR. condominium
like the one at Mountain View CA, itself would be almost 1.5 to 2 times the 
combined value of 
the three ( or is it four) houses/condos's reported value ( $ 600,000 to $ 
1,000,000). 

So, for one thing, the reported values mean little. For another, that CM 
Gogoi's son-in-law,
from published accounts a Google executive, probably makes enough on HIS OWN to 
be able to 
afford  a $ 1,000,000 loan on one ( or a collection of houses) described here. 
People buy houses
with long-term loans here, not with hard cash.

Therefore, the value of the houses described could NOT be construed to point to 
the notion
of assets disproportionate to the son-in-law's assets, leading to  casting 
aspersions on CM Gogoi
or his wife being the financiers, from legitimate or corrupt sources. 

That may be the good news for CM Gogoi and his wife.

The bad news probably lies elsewhere: the Ownership of the houses. Who is/are 
the Owners of these
houses? The daughter and the son-in-law? The CM or his wife?

Why that matters are:

A: The son-in-law and the daughter are US residents, if not citizens. He 
probably earns enough, and she may too,
to add to a tidy amount to be able to get a pretty good sized loan for a house 
in a high market value area like
Mountatin View, California and Cambridge, MA ( home to MIT and Harvard etc.). 
But not so for  foreigners, like 
Tarun Gogoi or his wife, UNLESS they also have US Permanent Resident Visas ( 
Green Cards. They could
however. That would be interesting to know if they do. Somebody should ask the 
CM that question.

B: If they are not green-card holders, they probably bought them for cash. 
There is no reason for the son-in-law or 
daughter to purchase houses, on loan, for TG or his wife.  If any of these 
houses were bought with cash ( not on loan), that 
will be a good indication that someone other than the son-in-law or the 
daughter provided the cash. Be it the CM , or his wife, 
or some Hawala trader or some business owner or whoever.

This could be easily verified from publicly available info. The lien-holders' 
names will be on the Titles of these houses
if they are purchased with bank loans.


Finally, EVEN if these houses were bought for cash and  from corrupt sources, 
the amounts are small fry, compared to those
talked about in reference to Himanta Sarma for one. I am sure there are others. 
In that I agree with MM's view:

"See how large hearted he is!
He allows his henchman to take 4000Crores  and he  keeps only 18 crores 
 as small tips."


Just kidding!















On Jan 8, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Nava Thakuria wrote:

>  
> Gogoi involved in embezzlement: KMSS
> 
> GUWAHATI, Jan 8 – Peasant organisation Krishak Mukti Sangram Samiti today 
> alleged that Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi is involved in embezzling the public 
> money of the State and part of the money laundered by him has been siphoned 
> off 
> to the US to procure property there in the names of members of his family. 
> 
>  
> ‘Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US’ 
> The peasant organisation also demanded a CBI inquiry into the allegation and 
> dared the Chief Minister to make a public statement on the source of the 
> money 
> used in procuring property in the US. 
> 
> Addressing mediapersons at a press conference here this afternoon, KMSS 
> secretary Akhil Gogoi alleged that the Chief Minister has several houses in 
> the 
> US in the names of his wife Dolly Gogoi (12700 W Dodge Road, Omaha NE 69154), 
> daughter Chandrima Gogoi (701 Berry Ave, Los Angeles C A 94024) and 
> son-in-law 
> Prasenjit Phukan (178 Ownes Ct Mountain View C A 94043; 143 Albany St, 
> Cambridge 
> MA 02139 and Los Altos CA 94022). 
> 
> The money value of these houses when added together would be Rs 17, 88, 45, 
> 050. 
> His daughter had declared while acquiring the property that her average 
> annual 
> income was Rs 64, 42, 650, while her husband Prasenjit Phukan had made three 
> declarations stating that his average annual incomes were Rs 64, 42, 650, Rs 
> 34, 
> 36,050 and Rs 72, 71, 250. Chief Minster's wife Dolly Gogoi declared that her 
> average annual income was Rs 29, 18, 650. 
> 
> The peasant organisation alleged that the Chief Minister requisitioned the 
> services of his 'scam-tainted' Ministerial colleague Himanta Biswa Sarma to 
> transfer part of the looted money to the US through hawala. This is why the 
> Chief Minister has so far been maintaining silence over the issue of Himanta 
> Biswa Sarma embezzling the public money of the State. 
> 
> The peasant organisation has collected the information concerning the US 
> property of the Chief Minister's family by using the website intelius. com, 
> said 
> the KMSS secretary. 
> 
> It has hit out at Assam Pradesh Congress Committee (APCC) chi

Re: [Assam] Delhi IGI airport

[Ram Dhar]

Baidow,
Welcome back ! Will look fwd to more travel diary from your end shared here.
Chandanda,  I suppose really liked his  transit through the new facility as 
well :-) 
take care
RD
 
 
 
> From: absarangap...@hotmail.com
> To: assam@assamnet.org
> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 23:46:48 -0600
> Subject: [Assam] Delhi IGI airport
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The new IGI airport in Delhi they've built. is stunningly beautiful. and the 
> service? yes, that is also great! There was no line to wait on, in fact, they 
> called us to the counter - right away - what an experience! ! It can be said 
> that the overall standard of Delhi airport is one of the 1st class airports 
> of the world now. The shops are ample in numbers and items and also are 
> beautifully decorated with color and light. The whole airport is splendidly 
> furnished that includes beautiful live plants and decorative items with very 
> good taste. 
> 
> The bathroom scenario is good as well, the ones in airline lounge (at least 
> the one that I travelled with) are maintained well - and yes, they are very 
> clean and dry. 
> 
> I am just happy and was very impressed and see a brighter future. 
> I read some article about reducing the poverty level in Brazil and Mexico, 
> specifically, will send the link when I find an electronic copy. 
> 
> It was a successful trip, we feel we've "achieved" a lot in fulfilling our 
> dream of making someone else's life a little better - with one step at a 
> time. We also did some sightseeing for ourselves. Overall, it was a hectic 
> but a good trip.
> 
> It's great to be back home though!
> 
> 
> 
> BTW, C'da: Ahem! how did you find the Delhi airport? :-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Nor love thy life, nor hate; but what thou livest, Live well; how long or 
> short, permit to Heav'n."
> -John Milton 
> 
> 
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Re: [Assam] assam Digest, Vol 66, Issue 10 --- Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US

[mc mahant]

  See how large hearted he is!

He allows his henchman to take 4000Crores  and he  keeps only 18 crores  as 
small tips.

But will the Assamese nation  now  get a mechanism to tell High Commandante " 
We do not owe you 30,000 Crores -. You owe us 500Billion Dolars. "

And too:
"You can take the 30,000 Crores  from your select MLAs ( members of Legislative 
Assembly) whom we Green-Button-Pushed for --5 yrs back."

Akhil is calling  all to do that tomorrow.


mm



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>1. ...uber alles (Babul Gogoi)
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>3. Now the Bad News (Chan Mahanta)
>4. KMSS drafts Bill to prevent corruption ( The Assam Tribune,
>   06.01.2011). (Buljit Buragohain)
>5. Re: ARUNAV SIR, The Novel by AJANTA of ARUNACHAL (Sushanta Kar)
>6. ?Gogoi family has Rs 18-crore property in US? (Nava Thakuria)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:22:53 +0530
> From: Babul Gogoi 
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> The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been
> reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European
> communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility.
> 
> As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty?s Government conceded that English
> spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased
> plan for what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).
> 
> In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c?. Sertainly,
> sivil servants will resieve this news with joy. Also, the hard "c" will be
> replaced with "k." Not only will this klear up konfusion, but typewriters
> kan have one less letter.
> 
> There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the
> troublesome "ph" will be replaced by "f?. This will make words like
> "fotograf" 20 per sent shorter.
> 
> In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to
> reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments
> will enkourage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a
> deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of
> silent "e?s in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go.
> 
> By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" by
> "z" and "w" by "v?.
> 
> During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining
> "ou?, and similar changes vud of kors; be aplid to ozer kombinations of
> leters.
> 
> After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil b no mor
> trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand echozer.
> 
> Ze drem vil finali kum tru!!
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 09:51:38 -0600
> From: Chan Mahanta 
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> Subject: Re: [Assam] Delhi IGI airport
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> Welcome back A. Glad to hear you had a good trip. So did I. Arunachal, 
> Namdapha area to be precise, was spectacular.
> 
> I agree with your assessment of Delhi airport. It looked good. Services were 
> too. I liked the food court a lot, although it is pricey for locals.
> Bathrooms were clean. No  hassles from officials. Announcers are 
> understandable and the loudspeakers clear. Taxis are easy to get, safe 
> and the old nightmares of getting in and out of the airport has finally 
> ended. The parking garage was not suffocating. One thing I noticed
> that is not something most will, was the very bad choice of colors of the 
> carpeting, mix of yellows, oranges and light browns. They will 
> get soiled in no time at all. That was the architect or the interior 
> designer's fault :-).
> 
> I just hope the maintenance of the facilities, the usual weak link, 
> continues. I was concerned by broken and un-repaired drywall already, in six 
> months
> between March and November. 
> 
> Now if Dilli can clean up its air a tad bit, everyone could breathe a lot 
> easier :-). 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 7, 2011, at 11:46 PM, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The new IGI a

Re: [Assam] [FASS-General-Body] Proposing Wahid Da as Chairman FASS International

[Ram Sarangapani]

That is fantastic news about Wahid da, Manoj. Congratulations, Wahid da...
you make us proud.

Ram da

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Manoj Das  wrote:

>
>
> Just now Wahidda (Wahid Saleh) received the Pravasi Bharatiya Samman.
> He is one among 12 chosen from different fields. Wahidda reveived the
> award from the Hon'ble President of India.
>
> Wahidda made the acceptance speech on behalf of the awardees, which
> was another recognition. I was privileged to witness the event.
>
> -manoj
>
>
> On 1/8/11, Vavani Sarmah > wrote:
> > Thanks Wahid da,
> >
> >
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Diaspora-role-models-from-the-North-East/videoshow/7236210.cms
> >
> >
> > I just finished watching the Prabashi Bharatiya Divas panel discussion
> (120
> > Mins). Great job.
> >
> > Having said, moving forward, I like you to take more roles and
> > responsibilities for Friends of Assam and Seven Sisters (FASS)
> > International.
> >
> > I am not sure if this is the right way to propose a extended leadership,
> as
> > I am not hoping there will be a FASS general body meeting in near future.
> >
> > So, I am proposing Wahid da's name as Chairman FASS International.
> >
> > Rajen da will remain be as FASS CMD USA.
> >
> > If we need to re-form the FASS International constitution for better
> > something, let's do it.
> >
> > Rajen da,
> >
> > I am more convience that there is a greater need for  services FASS is
> > intend to provide and is doing . I am very sure, with Wahid da's
> leadership
> > will boost the entire mission more effectively.
> >
> > Partha/Ankur
> >
> > Please comment your views to move forward.  Let's reform the FASS for
> > greater interest and success.
> >
> > Anyway, great job.
> >
> > Talk to you.
> >
> > Vavani Sarmah, Vice Chairman,
> > FASS International
> > Washington USA
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Re: [Assam] [FASS-General-Body] Proposing Wahid Da as Chairman FASS International

[Manoj Das]

Just now Wahidda (Wahid Saleh) received the Pravasi Bharatiya Samman.
He is one among 12 chosen from different fields. Wahidda reveived the
award from the Hon'ble President of India.

Wahidda made the acceptance speech on behalf of the awardees, which
was another recognition. I was privileged to witness the event.

-manoj

On 1/8/11, Vavani Sarmah  wrote:
> Thanks Wahid da,
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Diaspora-role-models-from-the-North-East/videoshow/7236210.cms
>
>
> I just finished watching the Prabashi Bharatiya Divas panel discussion (120
> Mins). Great job.
>
> Having said, moving forward, I like you to take more roles and
> responsibilities for Friends of Assam and Seven Sisters (FASS)
> International.
>
> I am not sure if this is the right way to propose a extended leadership, as
> I am not hoping there will be a FASS general body meeting in near future.
>
> So, I am proposing Wahid da's name as Chairman FASS International.
>
> Rajen da will remain be as FASS CMD USA.
>
> If we need to re-form the FASS International constitution for better
> something, let's do it.
>
> Rajen da,
>
> I am more convience that there is a greater need for  services FASS is
> intend to provide and is doing . I am very sure, with Wahid da's leadership
> will boost the entire mission more effectively.
>
> Partha/Ankur
>
> Please comment your views to move forward.  Let's reform the FASS for
> greater interest and success.
>
> Anyway, great job.
>
> Talk to you.
>
> Vavani Sarmah, Vice Chairman,
> FASS International
> Washington USA

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