Re: [Assam] Re Re: Rebuild Assam or India
Dear Prasenjit, I totally agree with you. And thats what I am saying that introspection is very much required for us. We need to stop the blaming game. We must see what we have done for our self rather than talking about what others have not done for us. You are absolutely correct by saying Charity begins at Home. Today total behavioral change of our society is of utmost importance. And for this we cant expect to do this by some angel or so. It is the responsibility of every responsible citizen. We must work within our capacity to achieve this objective. Thank you, Partha Sarathi Borah Gurgaon, IndiaPrasenjit Chetia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree that without fund the state government crippled already with mass corruption and lethargic employees in its ranks can't think any good. Every department in the state government needs an honest fellow to lead it. Now this top down approach could be rather termed as a disaster recovery whereas in other parts of the world you see the preventive measures. I was at home for a few days and let me cite the example of Highway 37 which passes through dibrugarh and tinsukia districts too. The part of the road now reconstructed by boarder roads without any involvement of the SGov is looking fine, never seen in lifetime. Now the variables here are the laborers who built the road ?? No, the contractors ?? to some extent, but largely the administrative authority who controls the funds. Go to any Sgov office,you will find starting from the gate-keeper to the ExecER all look for an opportunity to make illegal money. If some office is OK people say "Oh this is a good office, everyone is OK here" as if something rare has been discovered. We need to change ourselves before pointing fingers at others. These things were said by others in the past, and will be said in future. But if people don't act all these preaching are futile attempts taken by doesn't matter who, Chandan Mahanta or Partha Borah or hular bhai mula like me. Kharkhowa assamese is going to get another adjective added "Kaniya". Charity begins at Home. Parents should teach their children about being good human beings rather than good money-earners.Prasenjit .. On 11/9/05, Partha Borah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Chan Mahanta, Thanks for your quick reply. Let me clarify my stand. >Why do you want to compel the Central Govt. to solve YOUR problems? Why must you be dependent on somebody else for your welfare? Yes am talking about the same thing. We must be able to remove dependency on others. But for some kind of problems you need to get some sort of help. And that is your right. It may be flood problem, unemployment problem, communication problem and many more. If I am not right from your point of view can you tell me how can you solve flood problem, how can you improve the road condition, how can you lay double track rail without getting help from central government? If we can have a very strong leadership, getting this kind of aid will be very simple thing. I would like point out the case of West Bengal. For a long time the party, which was in power in the state, was sitting in the opposition bench in the centre. But that state never deprived of fund (it is a different story that in spite of getting huge fund people will never be satisfied). This is a normal practice we should adopt. Even if Assam gets independence, then also all the community will not be satisfied. Then also this practice way. This doesn't mean that we are depending on others, rather we are raise our voice to establish our right. > WHY do you or others BLAME the Center ? Why is it a blame-magnet? What are the things that YOU blame the Center for, if anything? I didn't get what you want to say. For over last 25 years the blame game has been very prominent in my state. It is becoming a common practice to blame central government for every other problem. I believe you might be well aware of it. So I am not getting you point why you have written 'WHY do you or others BLAME the Center'. > It is not a very good approach to play self-appointed spokesmen or interpreters for others. See, I am appealing for introspection. To the best of my knowledge call for introspection can't be termed as acting as self-appointed spokesmen. This is the best approach to rectify mistakes. Then what is wrong with me? I am looking forward to receive healthy reply from you. Partha Sarathi Borah Gurgaon, India Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Partha, Welcome to assamnet. I am sure you did not post your comments here merely to preach, but did so after thinking about it,deliberating about it, hoping to contribute constructively to the discourse. With that assumptions, allow me ask you two simple questions about your comments. There are many more, but that is for later, should you remain eng
[Assam] Re Re: Rebuild Assam or India
Hi Chan Mahanta, Thanks for your quick reply. Let me clarify my stand. >Why do you want to compel the Central Govt. to solve YOUR problems? Why must you be dependent on somebody else for your welfare? Yes am talking about the same thing. We must be able to remove dependency on others. But for some kind of problems you need to get some sort of help. And that is your right. It may be flood problem, unemployment problem, communication problem and many more. If I am not right from your point of view can you tell me how can you solve flood problem, how can you improve the road condition, how can you lay double track rail without getting help from central government? If we can have a very strong leadership, getting this kind of aid will be very simple thing. I would like point out the case of West Bengal. For a long time the party, which was in power in the state, was sitting in the opposition bench in the centre. But that state never deprived of fund (it is a different story that in spite of getting huge fund people will never be satisfied). This is a normal practice we should adopt. Even if Assam gets independence, then also all the community will not be satisfied. Then also this practice way. This doesnt mean that we are depending on others, rather we are raise our voice to establish our right. > WHY do you or others BLAME the Center ? Why is it a blame-magnet? What are the things that YOU blame the Center for, if anything? I didnt get what you want to say. For over last 25 years the blame game has been very prominent in my state. It is becoming a common practice to blame central government for every other problem. I believe you might be well aware of it. So I am not getting you point why you have written WHY do you or others BLAME the Center. > It is not a very good approach to play self-appointed spokesmen or interpreters for others. See, I am appealing for introspection. To the best of my knowledge call for introspection cant be termed as acting as self-appointed spokesmen. This is the best approach to rectify mistakes. Then what is wrong with me? I am looking forward to receive healthy reply from you. Partha Sarathi Borah Gurgaon, India Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Partha, Welcome to assamnet. I am sure you did not post your comments here merely to preach, but did so after thinking about it,deliberating about it, hoping to contribute constructively to the discourse. With that assumptions, allow me ask you two simple questions about your comments. There are many more, but that is for later, should you remain engaged that is. >We must be able to compel central government leadership to solve our problems. *** Why do you want to compel the Central Govt. to solve YOUR problems? Why must you be dependent on somebody else for your welfare? >We must be able to create a situation where blame on central government will >reduce drastically. *** WHY do you or others BLAME the Center ? Why is it a blame-magnet? What are the things that YOU blame the Center for, if anything? I am asking you, because you broach the subject and because of a propensity amongst us here to speak for others, while holding back our own views. It is not a very good approach to play self-appointed spokesmen or interpreters for others. It is far more credible if we speak for ourselves. Know what I mean? I will look forward to your answers. And should you furnish some, we can engage in some discussion. Best to you. cm At 2:51 PM +0000 11/8/05, Partha Borah wrote: I would like to share my views regarding the topic 'Rebuild Assam or India'. It is a very very nice initiative. It is mentioned there that 'If you have any objection about ULFA- ask yourself why India continues with a million strong armed forces...' Yes, of course. I have objection about ULFA. And probably my view starts from this point onwards. What I feel is that, we (the Assamese) are not yet matured enough to think of independence. In which front are we capable? Can we compete with rest of the Indians? No we cant. How candidates get seat in IITs, how many candidates can clear UPSC, how many renowned people are there in the art and culture field, how many high ranking officers are there in defense service? There are numerous similar questions are there whose answer is common either no or very few. So we are not yet been able to compete with others. Can we blame Indian Union Government for all these inabilities? Even very less number of people outside Assam know about Srimanta Sankar Dev or Vir Lachit. Is not our responsibility to spread the message of these great personalities to different parts of the world? I think it is high time for introspection. Simply passing the blame to others is not going to solve the problem rather it makes things more and more complicated. What I feel is that we need to prepare our self to compete equally with others.
Re: [Assam] Rebuild Assam or India
I would like to share my views regarding the topic 'Rebuild Assam or India'. It is a very very nice initiative. It is mentioned there that 'If you have any objection about ULFA- ask yourself why India continues with a million strong armed forces...' Yes, of course. I have objection about ULFA. And probably my view starts from this point onwards. What I feel is that, we (the Assamese) are not yet matured enough to think of independence. In which front are we capable? Can we compete with rest of the Indians? No we cant. How candidates get seat in IITs, how many candidates can clear UPSC, how many renowned people are there in the art and culture field, how many high ranking officers are there in defense service? There are numerous similar questions are there whose answer is common either no or very few. So we are not yet been able to compete with others. Can we blame Indian Union Government for all these inabilities? Even very less number of people outside Assam know about Srimanta Sankar Dev or Vir Lachit. Is not our responsibility to spread the message of these great personalities to different parts of the world? I think it is high time for introspection. Simply passing the blame to others is not going to solve the problem rather it makes things more and more complicated. What I feel is that we need to prepare our self to compete equally with others. There should not be any front untouched. We should learn how to work hard. We must be able to compel central government leadership to solve our problems. There should be no leader left who can overlook our problem. We must be able to create a situation where blame on central government will reduce drastically. And to do all these we need to penetrate into every front, every filed. And for that we must work hard, compete boldly. After achieving these objectives, if anybody still wants independence, then I shall have no objection. Partha Sarathi Borah Gurgaon, India Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:08:21 + (GMT)From: umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [Assam] Fwd: Study on Assam -Centre for Policy AlternativesTo: mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cc: assam@assamnet.orgMessage-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"Mukul-da, You did not answer my questionWhat is the cure and who are these people ? Umeshmc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Umesh Grow up--FAST.If you or any in the Assamnet or beyond have any ideas on HOW to rebuild Assam or India -Shoot at me -not with a gun-but intelligently.I shall record these and present the essence at anappropriate time and venue.If you have any objection about ULFA- ask yourself why India continues with a million strong armed forces--and spends literally evey Dollar"Earned" from the effort of millions sent out to slave in the 1st world-- in keeping this 'Armed Forces, supplied and equipped-- knowing fully well that these will not be defending anybody,anywhere,anytime.And ask yourself if GeorgeWBush is a leader or a pusher or what?And ask why there is any unrest anywhere at all--come with an unified theory--you might even rank with Amartya Sen Types.mm Enjoy this Diwali with Y! India Click here___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
