Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika

2008-04-01 Thread Dilip/Dil Deka
Looks like the bird's genus and name are now known. I am not too sure if the 
flower has been identified quite definitely yet. I do remember seeing flowers 
like in the photo that we used to call Modar. Aren't there different varieties 
of Modar?
  Dilip
  ==

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks Bikash for reminding us of the Sutiya Xaalika name. Back at 
Namti we called it that as well--completely forgot about it.










At 3:15 AM +0100 3/30/08, DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS wrote:
Haaa... Dada This is known in Darrang and Kamrup as CHUTIYA SHALIKA 
/XALIKA ( Chutiya Shalka).They are the direct version of original 
Indian Mynah all because they call talk like you and me. I had one 
before leaving for Military.She used to talk and if I run will fly 
behind me and sit on my shoulders... now when I saw this- I only 
tear for her..She was with us for long and will sit in front of us 
always like a part of family and look at us.Here also I tried to 
keep one, but died due to some food poison.Its too painful to miss 
them.So no more birds to sit on my shoulders..
 This bird is very humanly and available in Bangalore also.But 
here people are not like we Axomiya !! Forget about bird, they dnt 
know the next home.
 Hope al doubt is clear now-
 Bikash

Chan Mahanta wrote:excellent Chitta! And 
thanks for sharing the autherntic Oxomiya
name, Kath Xaalika.Incidentally the widespread , lowly Xaalika Sorai 
is a Mynah too. It is called Common Indian Mynah.



 
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Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika

2008-04-01 Thread mc mahant

Flowers of  Bottle Brush- a decorative bush introduced into Assam Around 
1950-- not from Indian Subcontinent.We have a big Bottle Brush bush at the 
entrance to our ancestral home  at Namti. I remember bringing that 
sapling+Mahogany ones from a Banamahotsav at Sivsagar in 1980
mm Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 05:41:26 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika  
Looks like the bird's genus and name are now known. I am not too sure if the 
flower has been identified quite definitely yet. I do remember seeing flowers 
like in the photo that we used to call Modar. Aren't there different varieties 
of Modar? Dilip ==  
Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Bikash for reminding us of the 
Sutiya Xaalika name. Back at  Namti we called it that as well--completely 
forgot about it.   At 3:15 AM +0100 3/30/08, DR BIKASH KUMAR 
DAS wrote: Haaa... Dada This is known in Darrang and Kamrup as CHUTIYA 
SHALIKA  /XALIKA ( Chutiya Shalka).They are the direct version of original  
Indian Mynah all because they call talk like you and me. I had one  before 
leaving for Military.She used to talk and if I run will fly  behind me and 
sit on my shoulders... now when I saw this- I only  tear for her..She was 
with us for long and will sit in front of us  always like a part of family 
and look at us.Here also I tried to  keep one, but died due to some food 
poison.Its too painful to miss  them.So no more birds to sit on my 
shoulders..  This bird is very humanly and available in Bangalore also.But  
here people are not like we Axomiya !! Forget about bird, they dnt  know the 
next home.  Hope al doubt is clear now-  Bikash  Chan Mahanta 
wrote:excellent Chitta! And  thanks for sharing the autherntic Oxomiya 
name, Kath Xaalika.Incidentally the widespread , lowly Xaalika Sorai  is a 
Mynah too. It is called Common Indian Mynah.  
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Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika

2008-04-01 Thread Chan Mahanta
O' Deka:

Apuni etiyahe xui-uthil neki? Din-dupor holhi, gomei nepale. 
Xui-thoka xiale haanh dhorar kthatw xunise nissoy :-).



They have been identified and rested.

The flower is  of the Ximolu gos--Silk Cotton tree, Bombax  indica. 
Nothing even akin to 'modaar' , a wholly different genus. Yes there 
are different kinds of coral trees ( modaar). In Assam there are two 
varieties, the red and the white flowering ones. They are easily 
identified by the SHAPE of the petals and the tree trunks. which are 
dramatically different. Polaax  flowers are closer in looks to the 
'modaar', but not all to the 'ximolu' flowers.

In other parts of the world there are quite a few variants. One grows 
widely in Southern California coastal areas that is very similar to 
the red ones from Assam. The tropical islands like in the Caribbean 
and in Hawii have two or three different vrieties that are similar.

The bird is Sutiya Xaalika, Jungle  Mynah  -- Acridotheres fuscus, 
whose habitat is widespread in south Asia.  The picture I sent the 
link to the other day was from  Fiji.  The bird probably got there 
with Indian laborers taken by the British.

BTW, the familiar Xaalika sorai ( Common Indian Mynah) has become a 
much despised pest in Australia.

Hope this helps.

O'm









At 5:41 AM -0700 4/1/08, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
Looks like the bird's genus and name are now known. I am not too 
sure if the flower has been identified quite definitely yet. I do 
remember seeing flowers like in the photo that we used to call 
Modar. Aren't there different varieties of Modar?
   Dilip
   ==

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Thanks Bikash for reminding us of the Sutiya Xaalika name. Back at
Namti we called it that as well--completely forgot about it.










At 3:15 AM +0100 3/30/08, DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS wrote:
Haaa... Dada This is known in Darrang and Kamrup as CHUTIYA SHALIKA
/XALIKA ( Chutiya Shalka).They are the direct version of original
Indian Mynah all because they call talk like you and me. I had one
before leaving for Military.She used to talk and if I run will fly
behind me and sit on my shoulders... now when I saw this- I only
tear for her..She was with us for long and will sit in front of us
always like a part of family and look at us.Here also I tried to
keep one, but died due to some food poison.Its too painful to miss
them.So no more birds to sit on my shoulders..
  This bird is very humanly and available in Bangalore also.But
here people are not like we Axomiya !! Forget about bird, they dnt
know the next home.
  Hope al doubt is clear now-
  Bikash

Chan Mahanta wrote:excellent Chitta! And
thanks for sharing the autherntic Oxomiya
name, Kath Xaalika.Incidentally the widespread , lowly Xaalika Sorai
is a Mynah too. It is called Common Indian Mynah.




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Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika

2008-04-01 Thread W.Saleh

The Bottle Brush flowers (Genus Callistemon) - for more information see
Australian National Botanic Gardens.
http://www.anbg.gov.au/callistemon/index.html 

Bottle Brush is a native of Australia. As such I assume that the British has
introduce them to India and most probably the tea planters planted it in
their gardens in Assam. In that case it was in Assam long before 1950. 

Wahid Saleh

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Onderwerp: Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika


Flowers of  Bottle Brush- a decorative bush introduced into Assam Around
1950-- not from Indian Subcontinent.We have a big Bottle Brush bush at the
entrance to our ancestral home  at Namti. I remember bringing that
sapling+Mahogany ones from a Banamahotsav at Sivsagar in 1980
mm Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 05:41:26 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika 
Looks like the bird's genus and name are now known. I am not too sure if the
flower has been identified quite definitely yet. I do remember seeing
flowers like in the photo that we used to call Modar. Aren't there different
varieties of Modar? Dilip
==  Chan Mahanta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Bikash for reminding us of the Sutiya
Xaalika name. Back at  Namti we called it that as well--completely forgot
about it.   At 3:15 AM +0100 3/30/08, DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS
wrote: Haaa... Dada This is known in Darrang and Kamrup as CHUTIYA SHALIKA
 /XALIKA ( Chutiya Shalka).They are the direct version of original 
Indian Mynah all because they call talk like you and me. I had one 
before leaving for Military.She used to talk and if I run will fly 
behind me and sit on my shoulders... now when I saw this- I only  tear
for her..She was with us for long and will sit in front of us  always like
a part of family and look at us.Here also I tried to  keep one, but died
due to some food poison.Its too painful to miss  them.So no more birds to
sit on my shoulders..  This bird is very humanly and available in
Bangalore also.But  here people are not like we Axomiya !! Forget about
bird, they dnt  know the next home.  Hope al doubt is clear now- 
Bikash  Chan Mahanta wrote:excellent Chitta! And  thanks for sharing
the autherntic Oxomiya name, Kath Xaalika.Incidentally the widespread ,
lowly Xaalika Sorai  is a Mynah too. It is called Common Indian Mynah. 
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Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika

2008-04-01 Thread Chan Mahanta
  In that case it was in Assam long before 1950.



 I think so too.











At 11:03 PM +0200 4/1/08, W.Saleh wrote:
The Bottle Brush flowers (Genus Callistemon) - for more information see
Australian National Botanic Gardens.
http://www.anbg.gov.au/callistemon/index.html

Bottle Brush is a native of Australia. As such I assume that the British has
introduce them to India and most probably the tea planters planted it in
their gardens in Assam. In that case it was in Assam long before 1950.

Wahid Saleh

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Onderwerp: Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika


Flowers of  Bottle Brush- a decorative bush introduced into Assam Around
1950-- not from Indian Subcontinent.We have a big Bottle Brush bush at the
entrance to our ancestral home  at Namti. I remember bringing that
sapling+Mahogany ones from a Banamahotsav at Sivsagar in 1980
mm Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 05:41:26 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika 
Looks like the bird's genus and name are now known. I am not too sure if the
flower has been identified quite definitely yet. I do remember seeing
flowers like in the photo that we used to call Modar. Aren't there different
varieties of Modar? Dilip
==  Chan Mahanta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Bikash for reminding us of the Sutiya
Xaalika name. Back at  Namti we called it that as well--completely forgot
about it.   At 3:15 AM +0100 3/30/08, DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS
wrote: Haaa... Dada This is known in Darrang and Kamrup as CHUTIYA SHALIKA
  /XALIKA ( Chutiya Shalka).They are the direct version of original 
Indian Mynah all because they call talk like you and me. I had one 
before leaving for Military.She used to talk and if I run will fly 
behind me and sit on my shoulders... now when I saw this- I only  tear
for her..She was with us for long and will sit in front of us  always like
a part of family and look at us.Here also I tried to  keep one, but died
due to some food poison.Its too painful to miss  them.So no more birds to
sit on my shoulders..  This bird is very humanly and available in
Bangalore also.But  here people are not like we Axomiya !! Forget about
bird, they dnt  know the next home.  Hope al doubt is clear now- 
Bikash  Chan Mahanta wrote:excellent Chitta! And  thanks for sharing
the autherntic Oxomiya name, Kath Xaalika.Incidentally the widespread ,
lowly Xaalika Sorai  is a Mynah too. It is called Common Indian Mynah. 
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Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika

2008-03-29 Thread DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS
Haaa... Dada This is known in Darrang and Kamrup as CHUTIYA SHALIKA /XALIKA ( 
Chutiya Shalka).They are the direct version of original Indian Mynah all 
because they call talk like you and me. I had one before leaving for 
Military.She used to talk and if I run will fly behind me and sit on my 
shoulders... now when I saw this- I only tear for her..She was with us for long 
and will sit in front of us always like a part of family and look at us.Here 
also I tried to keep one, but died due to some food poison.Its too painful to 
miss them.So no more birds to sit on my shoulders..
  This bird is very humanly and available in Bangalore  also.But here people 
are not like we Axomiya !! Forget about bird, they dnt know the next home.
  Hope al doubt is clear now-
  Bikash

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:excellent Chitta! And thanks for sharing 
the autherntic Oxomiya 
name, Kath Xaalika.Incidentally the widespread , lowly Xaalika Sorai is a Mynah 
too. It is called Common Indian Mynah.



   
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Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika

2008-03-29 Thread Chan Mahanta
Thanks Bikash for reminding us of the Sutiya Xaalika name. Back at 
Namti we called it that as well--completely forgot about it.










At 3:15 AM +0100 3/30/08, DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS wrote:
Haaa... Dada This is known in Darrang and Kamrup as CHUTIYA SHALIKA 
/XALIKA ( Chutiya Shalka).They are the direct version of original 
Indian Mynah all because they call talk like you and me. I had one 
before leaving for Military.She used to talk and if I run will fly 
behind me and sit on my shoulders... now when I saw this- I only 
tear for her..She was with us for long and will sit in front of us 
always like a part of family and look at us.Here also I tried to 
keep one, but died due to some food poison.Its too painful to miss 
them.So no more birds to sit on my shoulders..
   This bird is very humanly and available in Bangalore  also.But 
here people are not like we Axomiya !! Forget about bird, they dnt 
know the next home.
   Hope al doubt is clear now-
   Bikash

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:excellent Chitta! And 
thanks for sharing the autherntic Oxomiya
name, Kath Xaalika.Incidentally the widespread , lowly Xaalika Sorai 
is a Mynah too. It is called Common Indian Mynah.



   
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