Re: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem
Yes.I would like to see. K On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Chan Mahanta wrote: > O"-K > > No, that is not an ad-hominem argument. It is a gratuitous insult, > unbecoming of a civil discussion. > > But if you make an argument or ask a question as a part of an argument that > runs counter to my beliefs or I just don't like > , instead of offering a counter-argument or a rebuttal and answering your > question I resort to calling you a, say, terrorist > sympathizer or a Muslim hater or an anti-Indian or some such epithet or > innuendo in an attempt to weasel out of my > predicament, that would be an 'argumentum ad-hominem'. > > If I were confronted with something I could not explain or rebut, resorting > to obfuscation, changing of the subject or > questioning your character or some such devious tactics, would be resorting > to argumentum ad-hominem > > But if I replied defending myself but added the insult like a**-hole as a > parting shot, that would not constitute a-a-h. > > Would you REALLY like to see an assamnet example :-)? I must caution you > against pushing it :-) :-). > > So-K > > > > On Aug 17, 2010, at 10:15 PM, kamal deka wrote: > >> SO KO, >> >> Since you have started this grandiloquent philosophical stuff,could >> you please trot out a few examples in order to put things in clear >> perspective.Please feel free to cite some samples of discussion that >> had occurred in this Net. >> Let me help you out by giving an example: >> >> A: "All rodents are mammals, but a weasel isn't a rodent, so it can't >> be a mammal." >> B: "This does not logically follow. And you're an asshole." >> >> Now,is B's reply an ad hominem? >> >> KJD >> >> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Chan Mahanta wrote: >>> O'-K, >>> >>> Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine a > speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the > argument. >>> >>> >>> >>> *** Look up "--ad-hominem" in Google. In Wiki you will find the explanation >>> as shown above. >>> >>> Is it a trick, verbal or otherwise? You decide. >>> >>> It does not matter what it is called. Often we refer to it as attacking the >>> messenger, a more benign form of the same thing. >>> But the important point is that in the world of logical thinking, it is >>> does not hold a respectable place. >>> >>> So-K >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:02 PM, kamal deka wrote: >>> RS, What the hell is AAH ( ad hominiem )? Something to eat or to wear? Or is it just a nonce word ( words invented for particular occassion) or a stunt word ( word that display a neat verbal trick but are not useful for everyday conversation) :-) Merely pulling someone's legs. But again,we should keep in mind that what goes around,comes around or simply stated SOW THE WIND REAP THE WHIRLWIND!!! KJD On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > Hehehe! > > Argumentum ad hominem? Some examples might be nice. > > I don't think I ever come across that disease around Texas. Have you KJD? > > Perhaps, it is raging in other parts (not to be named :-)). I think, it is > time for the good Daktor Haatimuria to descent from his perch in the > Ozarks > (I think), and find a cure all for the incorrigible kharkhowas. > > I have heard that is is closely related to the FIM disease > (Foot-in-mouth) & > the other famous one 'argumentum ad infinitum' disease, which seems to > affect a number of us - I think have a rare case of that affliction :-) > :-) > > --Ram > > > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Chan Mahanta wrote: > >> >> Often, actually way to often, we see the phenomenon of " Argumentum ad >> hominem" in our discussions and debates. Since it is so frequent, one >> has >> to conclude that our friends, who, rightfully, take pride in their >> knowledge of things, perhaps have nort come across this particular >> phenomenon. So I thought it is as good a time as any, to bt ring it to >> their >> attention: >> >> >> Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine a >> speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the >> argument. >> >> >> cm >> ___ >> assam mailing list >> assam@assamnet.org >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >> > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> assam mailing list >>> assam
Re: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem
O"-K No, that is not an ad-hominem argument. It is a gratuitous insult, unbecoming of a civil discussion. But if you make an argument or ask a question as a part of an argument that runs counter to my beliefs or I just don't like , instead of offering a counter-argument or a rebuttal and answering your question I resort to calling you a, say, terrorist sympathizer or a Muslim hater or an anti-Indian or some such epithet or innuendo in an attempt to weasel out of my predicament, that would be an 'argumentum ad-hominem'. If I were confronted with something I could not explain or rebut, resorting to obfuscation, changing of the subject or questioning your character or some such devious tactics, would be resorting to argumentum ad-hominem But if I replied defending myself but added the insult like a**-hole as a parting shot, that would not constitute a-a-h. Would you REALLY like to see an assamnet example :-)? I must caution you against pushing it :-) :-). So-K On Aug 17, 2010, at 10:15 PM, kamal deka wrote: > SO KO, > > Since you have started this grandiloquent philosophical stuff,could > you please trot out a few examples in order to put things in clear > perspective.Please feel free to cite some samples of discussion that > had occurred in this Net. > Let me help you out by giving an example: > > A: "All rodents are mammals, but a weasel isn't a rodent, so it can't > be a mammal." > B: "This does not logically follow. And you're an asshole." > > Now,is B's reply an ad hominem? > > KJD > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Chan Mahanta wrote: >> O'-K, >> >> >>> Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine a speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the argument. >> >> >> >> *** Look up "--ad-hominem" in Google. In Wiki you will find the explanation >> as shown above. >> >> Is it a trick, verbal or otherwise? You decide. >> >> It does not matter what it is called. Often we refer to it as attacking the >> messenger, a more benign form of the same thing. >> But the important point is that in the world of logical thinking, it is does >> not hold a respectable place. >> >> So-K >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:02 PM, kamal deka wrote: >> >>> RS, >>> What the hell is AAH ( ad hominiem )? Something to eat or to wear? Or >>> is it just a nonce word ( words invented for particular occassion) or >>> a stunt word ( word that display a neat verbal trick but are not >>> useful for everyday conversation) :-) Merely pulling someone's legs. >>> But again,we should keep in mind that what goes around,comes around or >>> simply stated SOW THE WIND REAP THE WHIRLWIND!!! >>> KJD >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Hehehe! Argumentum ad hominem? Some examples might be nice. I don't think I ever come across that disease around Texas. Have you KJD? Perhaps, it is raging in other parts (not to be named :-)). I think, it is time for the good Daktor Haatimuria to descent from his perch in the Ozarks (I think), and find a cure all for the incorrigible kharkhowas. I have heard that is is closely related to the FIM disease (Foot-in-mouth) & the other famous one 'argumentum ad infinitum' disease, which seems to affect a number of us - I think have a rare case of that affliction :-) :-) --Ram On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Chan Mahanta wrote: > > Often, actually way to often, we see the phenomenon of " Argumentum ad > hominem" in our discussions and debates. Since it is so frequent, one has > to conclude that our friends, who, rightfully, take pride in their > knowledge of things, perhaps have nort come across this particular > phenomenon. So I thought it is as good a time as any, to bt ring it to > their > attention: > > > Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine a > speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the > argument. > > > cm > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >>> >>> ___ >>> assam mailing list >>> assam@assamnet.org >>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >> >> >> ___ >> assam mailing list >> assam@assamnet.org >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >> > > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem
KJD, >Something to eat or to wear? Heck, I thought it was some kind of affliction, that affects only an august crowd (and not others). It might be something to wear - like shoes. And I am told they fit me quite well :-) --Ram On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:02 PM, kamal deka wrote: > RS, > What the hell is AAH ( ad hominiem )? Something to eat or to wear? Or > is it just a nonce word ( words invented for particular occassion) or > a stunt word ( word that display a neat verbal trick but are not > useful for everyday conversation) :-) Merely pulling someone's legs. > But again,we should keep in mind that what goes around,comes around or > simply stated SOW THE WIND REAP THE WHIRLWIND!!! > KJD > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Ram Sarangapani > wrote: > > Hehehe! > > > > Argumentum ad hominem? Some examples might be nice. > > > > I don't think I ever come across that disease around Texas. Have you > KJD? > > > > Perhaps, it is raging in other parts (not to be named :-)). I think, it > is > > time for the good Daktor Haatimuria to descent from his perch in the > Ozarks > > (I think), and find a cure all for the incorrigible kharkhowas. > > > > I have heard that is is closely related to the FIM disease > (Foot-in-mouth) & > > the other famous one 'argumentum ad infinitum' disease, which seems to > > affect a number of us - I think have a rare case of that affliction :-) > :-) > > > > --Ram > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Chan Mahanta > wrote: > > > >> > >> Often, actually way to often, we see the phenomenon of " Argumentum ad > >> hominem" in our discussions and debates. Since it is so frequent, one > has > >> to conclude that our friends, who, rightfully, take pride in their > >> knowledge of things, perhaps have nort come across this particular > >> phenomenon. So I thought it is as good a time as any, to bt ring it to > their > >> attention: > >> > >> > >> Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine > a > >> speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the > >> argument. > >> > >> > >> cm > >> ___ > >> assam mailing list > >> assam@assamnet.org > >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >> > > ___ > > assam mailing list > > assam@assamnet.org > > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem
SO KO, Since you have started this grandiloquent philosophical stuff,could you please trot out a few examples in order to put things in clear perspective.Please feel free to cite some samples of discussion that had occurred in this Net. Let me help you out by giving an example: A: "All rodents are mammals, but a weasel isn't a rodent, so it can't be a mammal." B: "This does not logically follow. And you're an asshole." Now,is B's reply an ad hominem? KJD On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Chan Mahanta wrote: > O'-K, > > >>Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine a >>> speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the >>> argument. > > > > *** Look up "--ad-hominem" in Google. In Wiki you will find the explanation > as shown above. > > Is it a trick, verbal or otherwise? You decide. > > It does not matter what it is called. Often we refer to it as attacking the > messenger, a more benign form of the same thing. > But the important point is that in the world of logical thinking, it is does > not hold a respectable place. > > So-K > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:02 PM, kamal deka wrote: > >> RS, >> What the hell is AAH ( ad hominiem )? Something to eat or to wear? Or >> is it just a nonce word ( words invented for particular occassion) or >> a stunt word ( word that display a neat verbal trick but are not >> useful for everyday conversation) :-) Merely pulling someone's legs. >> But again,we should keep in mind that what goes around,comes around or >> simply stated SOW THE WIND REAP THE WHIRLWIND!!! >> KJD >> >> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote: >>> Hehehe! >>> >>> Argumentum ad hominem? Some examples might be nice. >>> >>> I don't think I ever come across that disease around Texas. Have you KJD? >>> >>> Perhaps, it is raging in other parts (not to be named :-)). I think, it is >>> time for the good Daktor Haatimuria to descent from his perch in the Ozarks >>> (I think), and find a cure all for the incorrigible kharkhowas. >>> >>> I have heard that is is closely related to the FIM disease (Foot-in-mouth) & >>> the other famous one 'argumentum ad infinitum' disease, which seems to >>> affect a number of us - I think have a rare case of that affliction :-) :-) >>> >>> --Ram >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Chan Mahanta wrote: >>> Often, actually way to often, we see the phenomenon of " Argumentum ad hominem" in our discussions and debates. Since it is so frequent, one has to conclude that our friends, who, rightfully, take pride in their knowledge of things, perhaps have nort come across this particular phenomenon. So I thought it is as good a time as any, to bt ring it to their attention: Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine a speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the argument. cm ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >>> ___ >>> assam mailing list >>> assam@assamnet.org >>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >>> >> >> ___ >> assam mailing list >> assam@assamnet.org >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem
O'-K, >Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine a >> speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the >> argument. *** Look up "--ad-hominem" in Google. In Wiki you will find the explanation as shown above. Is it a trick, verbal or otherwise? You decide. It does not matter what it is called. Often we refer to it as attacking the messenger, a more benign form of the same thing. But the important point is that in the world of logical thinking, it is does not hold a respectable place. So-K On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:02 PM, kamal deka wrote: > RS, > What the hell is AAH ( ad hominiem )? Something to eat or to wear? Or > is it just a nonce word ( words invented for particular occassion) or > a stunt word ( word that display a neat verbal trick but are not > useful for everyday conversation) :-) Merely pulling someone's legs. > But again,we should keep in mind that what goes around,comes around or > simply stated SOW THE WIND REAP THE WHIRLWIND!!! > KJD > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote: >> Hehehe! >> >> Argumentum ad hominem? Some examples might be nice. >> >> I don't think I ever come across that disease around Texas. Have you KJD? >> >> Perhaps, it is raging in other parts (not to be named :-)). I think, it is >> time for the good Daktor Haatimuria to descent from his perch in the Ozarks >> (I think), and find a cure all for the incorrigible kharkhowas. >> >> I have heard that is is closely related to the FIM disease (Foot-in-mouth) & >> the other famous one 'argumentum ad infinitum' disease, which seems to >> affect a number of us - I think have a rare case of that affliction :-) :-) >> >> --Ram >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Chan Mahanta wrote: >> >>> >>> Often, actually way to often, we see the phenomenon of " Argumentum ad >>> hominem" in our discussions and debates. Since it is so frequent, one has >>> to conclude that our friends, who, rightfully, take pride in their >>> knowledge of things, perhaps have nort come across this particular >>> phenomenon. So I thought it is as good a time as any, to bt ring it to their >>> attention: >>> >>> >>> Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine a >>> speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the >>> argument. >>> >>> >>> cm >>> ___ >>> assam mailing list >>> assam@assamnet.org >>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >>> >> ___ >> assam mailing list >> assam@assamnet.org >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >> > > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem
RS, What the hell is AAH ( ad hominiem )? Something to eat or to wear? Or is it just a nonce word ( words invented for particular occassion) or a stunt word ( word that display a neat verbal trick but are not useful for everyday conversation) :-) Merely pulling someone's legs. But again,we should keep in mind that what goes around,comes around or simply stated SOW THE WIND REAP THE WHIRLWIND!!! KJD On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > Hehehe! > > Argumentum ad hominem? Some examples might be nice. > > I don't think I ever come across that disease around Texas. Have you KJD? > > Perhaps, it is raging in other parts (not to be named :-)). I think, it is > time for the good Daktor Haatimuria to descent from his perch in the Ozarks > (I think), and find a cure all for the incorrigible kharkhowas. > > I have heard that is is closely related to the FIM disease (Foot-in-mouth) & > the other famous one 'argumentum ad infinitum' disease, which seems to > affect a number of us - I think have a rare case of that affliction :-) :-) > > --Ram > > > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Chan Mahanta wrote: > >> >> Often, actually way to often, we see the phenomenon of " Argumentum ad >> hominem" in our discussions and debates. Since it is so frequent, one has >> to conclude that our friends, who, rightfully, take pride in their >> knowledge of things, perhaps have nort come across this particular >> phenomenon. So I thought it is as good a time as any, to bt ring it to their >> attention: >> >> >> Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine a >> speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the >> argument. >> >> >> cm >> ___ >> assam mailing list >> assam@assamnet.org >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >> > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem
>I am quite sure *I* am the only culprit on these shores :-) *** No need to make yourself the sole victim Ram. You have august company. But I will not stoop so low to poke old wounds. Not now anyway, unless, the call becomes too difficult to ignore :-) On Aug 17, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > O c'mon, C'da, > >> I can comply, you know, even though it would become very acrimonious? > > Now, now, why would a discussion on this net take an acrimonious bent? > > I try to never take general discussions on Assam or India for that matter on > this net, on a personal level. If I did, that would not > be something I would proud of. > > But be that as it may, that's NOT in me, but you are always free to publish > my select quotes. I have to get published somewhere, why not here:-) > I am quite sure *I* am the only culprit on these shores :-) > > > --Ram > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Chan Mahanta wrote: > >> Funny, isn't it Ram ? >> >> But it may NOT be so funny, if I publish a set of selected quotes. Would >> you like me to ? >> I can comply, you know, even though it would become very acrimonious? >> >> c-da :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 16, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote: >> >>> Hehehe! >>> >>> Argumentum ad hominem? Some examples might be nice. >>> >>> I don't think I ever come across that disease around Texas. Have you KJD? >>> >>> Perhaps, it is raging in other parts (not to be named :-)). I think, it >> is >>> time for the good Daktor Haatimuria to descent from his perch in the >> Ozarks >>> (I think), and find a cure all for the incorrigible kharkhowas. >>> >>> I have heard that is is closely related to the FIM disease >> (Foot-in-mouth) & >>> the other famous one 'argumentum ad infinitum' disease, which seems to >>> affect a number of us - I think have a rare case of that affliction :-) >> :-) >>> >>> --Ram >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Chan Mahanta >> wrote: >>> Often, actually way to often, we see the phenomenon of " Argumentum ad hominem" in our discussions and debates. Since it is so frequent, one >> has to conclude that our friends, who, rightfully, take pride in their knowledge of things, perhaps have nort come across this particular phenomenon. So I thought it is as good a time as any, to bt ring it to >> their attention: Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine >> a speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the argument. cm ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >>> ___ >>> assam mailing list >>> assam@assamnet.org >>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >> >> >> ___ >> assam mailing list >> assam@assamnet.org >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >> > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem
O c'mon, C'da, >I can comply, you know, even though it would become very acrimonious? Now, now, why would a discussion on this net take an acrimonious bent? I try to never take general discussions on Assam or India for that matter on this net, on a personal level. If I did, that would not be something I would proud of. But be that as it may, that's NOT in me, but you are always free to publish my select quotes. I have to get published somewhere, why not here:-) I am quite sure *I* am the only culprit on these shores :-) --Ram On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Chan Mahanta wrote: > Funny, isn't it Ram ? > > But it may NOT be so funny, if I publish a set of selected quotes. Would > you like me to ? > I can comply, you know, even though it would become very acrimonious? > > c-da :-) > > > > > > > On Aug 16, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > > > Hehehe! > > > > Argumentum ad hominem? Some examples might be nice. > > > > I don't think I ever come across that disease around Texas. Have you KJD? > > > > Perhaps, it is raging in other parts (not to be named :-)). I think, it > is > > time for the good Daktor Haatimuria to descent from his perch in the > Ozarks > > (I think), and find a cure all for the incorrigible kharkhowas. > > > > I have heard that is is closely related to the FIM disease > (Foot-in-mouth) & > > the other famous one 'argumentum ad infinitum' disease, which seems to > > affect a number of us - I think have a rare case of that affliction :-) > :-) > > > > --Ram > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Chan Mahanta > wrote: > > > >> > >> Often, actually way to often, we see the phenomenon of " Argumentum ad > >> hominem" in our discussions and debates. Since it is so frequent, one > has > >> to conclude that our friends, who, rightfully, take pride in their > >> knowledge of things, perhaps have nort come across this particular > >> phenomenon. So I thought it is as good a time as any, to bt ring it to > their > >> attention: > >> > >> > >> Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine > a > >> speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the > >> argument. > >> > >> > >> cm > >> ___ > >> assam mailing list > >> assam@assamnet.org > >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > >> > > ___ > > assam mailing list > > assam@assamnet.org > > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem
Funny, isn't it Ram ? But it may NOT be so funny, if I publish a set of selected quotes. Would you like me to ? I can comply, you know, even though it would become very acrimonious? c-da :-) On Aug 16, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > Hehehe! > > Argumentum ad hominem? Some examples might be nice. > > I don't think I ever come across that disease around Texas. Have you KJD? > > Perhaps, it is raging in other parts (not to be named :-)). I think, it is > time for the good Daktor Haatimuria to descent from his perch in the Ozarks > (I think), and find a cure all for the incorrigible kharkhowas. > > I have heard that is is closely related to the FIM disease (Foot-in-mouth) & > the other famous one 'argumentum ad infinitum' disease, which seems to > affect a number of us - I think have a rare case of that affliction :-) :-) > > --Ram > > > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Chan Mahanta wrote: > >> >> Often, actually way to often, we see the phenomenon of " Argumentum ad >> hominem" in our discussions and debates. Since it is so frequent, one has >> to conclude that our friends, who, rightfully, take pride in their >> knowledge of things, perhaps have nort come across this particular >> phenomenon. So I thought it is as good a time as any, to bt ring it to their >> attention: >> >> >> Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine a >> speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the >> argument. >> >> >> cm >> ___ >> assam mailing list >> assam@assamnet.org >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org >> > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem
Hehehe! Argumentum ad hominem? Some examples might be nice. I don't think I ever come across that disease around Texas. Have you KJD? Perhaps, it is raging in other parts (not to be named :-)). I think, it is time for the good Daktor Haatimuria to descent from his perch in the Ozarks (I think), and find a cure all for the incorrigible kharkhowas. I have heard that is is closely related to the FIM disease (Foot-in-mouth) & the other famous one 'argumentum ad infinitum' disease, which seems to affect a number of us - I think have a rare case of that affliction :-) :-) --Ram On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Chan Mahanta wrote: > > Often, actually way to often, we see the phenomenon of " Argumentum ad > hominem" in our discussions and debates. Since it is so frequent, one has > to conclude that our friends, who, rightfully, take pride in their > knowledge of things, perhaps have nort come across this particular > phenomenon. So I thought it is as good a time as any, to bt ring it to their > attention: > > > Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine a > speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the > argument. > > > cm > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem
But how does that relate to argumentum ad hominem? Any examples to help out? On Aug 16, 2010, at 10:24 PM, Dilip Deka wrote: > If one spits into the sky, the spit is likely to fall on his face. > An intelligent spitter spits into a spitoon. I guess spitoons have gone out > of > style. > > > > > > From: Chan Mahanta > To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world > > Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 10:18:03 PM > Subject: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem > > > Often, actually way to often, we see the phenomenon of " Argumentum ad > hominem" > in our discussions and debates. Since it is so frequent, one has to conclude > that our friends, who, rightfully, take pride in their knowledge of things, > perhaps have nort come across this particular phenomenon. So I thought it is > as > good a time as any, to bt ring it to their attention: > > > Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine a > speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the > argument. > > > cm > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem
If one spits into the sky, the spit is likely to fall on his face. An intelligent spitter spits into a spitoon. I guess spitoons have gone out of style. From: Chan Mahanta To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 10:18:03 PM Subject: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem Often, actually way to often, we see the phenomenon of " Argumentum ad hominem" in our discussions and debates. Since it is so frequent, one has to conclude that our friends, who, rightfully, take pride in their knowledge of things, perhaps have nort come across this particular phenomenon. So I thought it is as good a time as any, to bt ring it to their attention: Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine a speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the argument. cm ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem
Often, actually way to often, we see the phenomenon of " Argumentum ad hominem" in our discussions and debates. Since it is so frequent, one has to conclude that our friends, who, rightfully, take pride in their knowledge of things, perhaps have nort come across this particular phenomenon. So I thought it is as good a time as any, to bt ring it to their attention: Argumentum ad hominem is the logical fallacy of attempting to undermine a speaker's argument by attacking the speaker instead of addressing the argument. cm ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
