Re: [Assam] From AT--- What an Abomination!

[Chan Mahanta]

>  >I am as sentimental as you are on the preservation of historical
>/archaeological heritage.


You got it wrong again Ram. It is not about sentimentality. People 
who do not know how to preserve their cultural heritage  will lose 
their cultural identity  very rapidly.


Last November I was horrified to witness the last remaining pieces of 
the over 400 years old Tawang monastery's original timber 
craftsmanship and frescoes of a very sophisticated Tibetan 
architectural
heritage torn down and being replicated by North-Indian laborers, in 
cement and concrete. I asked if the ornate, carved and painted 
timber  would be re-used. The workers shook their heads --- naaah! 
More than likely they will be burnt by the next cold spell to warm 
some cold and culturally dead bodies. Nobody was there to give a hoot 
about what a priceless heritage the Monpas have so easily given away 
to Indian rupees that bought their culture over, while some 
Rajasthani  Military  Engg. Service bigwig in full regalia, 
surrounded by soldiers of many ranks in battle fatigue, were taking 
pictures of his family standing in front of this and that.


>  >Hehehe! Still hasn't filtered thru yet, C'da. You will have to be much
>clearer.

*** I was afraid so Ram :-).

Let me ask you this: HOW exactly do you figure  those folks you 
expect to have risen to their duties of helping avoid such an 
intrusive and invasive action ?

What do they know about civic involvement and citizens' 
responsibilities? What DID you know when you grew up in Assam?

These things don't come imprinted on your genes . People have to 
learn. It is not something pour people have seen to learn from. These 
collective knowledge and wisdom come from generations of evolution , 
of learning from their mistakes and seeing better examples. Whatever 
such social
knowledge existed were first destroyed by the British,  and then 
thoroughly wiped by a horribly depraved Indian non-system.

The Monpas developed a highly sophisticated architectural idiom and 
craftsmanship over millenia, that has its root in Tibetan 
civilization. Their close-knit villages and interdependencies are 
quite amazing. But in Tawang you can see it rapidly being displaced 
by North-Indian garbage architecture , with nary a sign of any 
craftsmanship anywhere.

The only saving grace was that I found these Monpa towns nearly as 
not filthy as our own plains settlements.


*** To put it very simply: The values that you cite so effortlessly 
have to be INCULCATED by those who know. Just like HOW a western 
style DEMOCRACY that you so ardently hold up , works, has to be 
inculcated, TAUGHT! It does not fall from the skies, nor does it get 
imbued just because they read about them, or  see it on TV.

That simple!

Here in, those who know better have a responsibility to stand  up and 
be counted.



At 11:09 AM -0600 3/27/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>C'da
>
>I am as sentimental as you are on the preservation of historical
>/archaeological heritage. We can never emulate or replicate these original
>artifacts.
>
>The essence of what I'm trying to say is that a lot these problems could be
>at least be warded off. Here, I blame the Municipality for being lax, the
>Sai Baba people to trying to somehow take advantage of a possibly corruupt
>district authority.
>I'm also quite sure that the ASI is totally unaware of what is happening.
>They might get into it after the temple is finisfed and you have devotees
>running around.
>
>But this:
>
Why did the interested public not protest before the construction >>>of
>the Sai Baba temple started?
>
>  >I have been trying to educate you folks about that., But obviously
>  >you don't learn do you?
>
>Hehehe! Still hasn't filtered thru yet, C'da. You will have to be much
>clearer.
>
>I'm wondering, why these interested people did not protest right at the
>begining. Why really wait till the temple is half-done?
>
>Now, of course, it is entirely possible that they had no earthly idea that
>the Baba temple people was going up.
>
>>Incidentally, when I become the Emperor of Xiboxagor
>
>Now, there you have my full support, because I know, you will atleast  be
>ever vigilant and pre-empt any attempts that may affect ancient architecture
>and historical monuments.:):)
>
>
>--Ram
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 3/27/08, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  Ram:
>>
>>  To give you a nasty  reply:
>>
>>  Do you think the questions you ask about permits, neighborhood's
>>  apporval etc. have any merit in the context? What--have you become
>>  American or something ?
>>
>>
>>  How did the municipality land got to Sai Baban's? Good question Ram.
>>  But not a smart one if you forgot what I mean.
>>
>>
>>  >  >Why did the interested public not protest before the construction of
>>  the Sai
>>  >Baba temple started?
>>
>>
>>  I have been trying to educate you folks about that., But obviously
>>  you don't learn do you?
>>
>>
>>  >  >Lastly, why did the Sai Baba people want to build a templ

Re: [Assam] From AT--- What an Abomination!

[Mridul Bhuyan]

What I remember during my childhood, when I was probably in Class-X, In the 
Siva Doul Complex, prayer meetings of Sai Baba followers were held regularly on 
Sundays.
   
  However, I am of the opinion that allowing prayer in a temple complex does 
not entitle one to build a temple in the near vicinity of such an old temple 
complex against the law.
   
  Regards
  Mridul

Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Ram:

To give you a nasty reply:

Do you think the questions you ask about permits, neighborhood's 
apporval etc. have any merit in the context? What--have you become 
American or something ?


How did the municipality land got to Sai Baban's? Good question Ram. 
But not a smart one if you forgot what I mean.


> >Why did the interested public not protest before the construction of the Sai
>Baba temple started?


I have been trying to educate you folks about that., But obviously 
you don't learn do you?


> >Lastly, why did the Sai Baba people want to build a temple right next to a
>historical site?

Take a wild guess!


> >Lastly, why did the Sai Baba people want to build a temple right next to a
historical site?

Take another wild guess!



 Bottom line Ram is this: These are structures of Assam's 
historical /archaeological heritage . The deserve not to be 
desecrated by new construction within its visual bounds -- no matter 
dedicated to what god/s , no matter how beautiful. It is a matter of 
cultural aesthetics, something our people need a ahuge amount of 
educating on.

Incidentally, when I become the Emperor of Xiboxagor, one of the 
first things I will do will be to tear down that horrible water tank 
that was built rifght near the Xibo-doul, nearly a quarter century 
back.


*** The Texan Mosque v/s the Church is an issue of religious 
bigotries on the part of the Church-wallas.
The Moswquewallas got the permit obviously because it is an area 
zoned for Places of Worship. So the Zoning authorities were not at 
fault. When the dispute goes to litigation, I would bet you a dollar 
the Mosque-wallas will win. Exactly similar thing happened right here 
in St. Louis, TWICE. Both the times the Mosques got built.

c-da :-)





At 8:48 AM -0600 3/27/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>C'da,
>
>The preservation of historical and ancient idols are, of course, paramount,
>and all of us should support such efforts.
>
>Some questions do arise though:
>
>How is it possible for any private organization to build on land owned by
>the Sivasagar Municipality Board?
>
>It seems the Sai Baba temple is being built as we speak, so how did the
>District authorities give it permissions? Aren't these authorities also
>interested in the preservation of these ancient idols?
>
>Why did the interested public not protest before the construction of the Sai
>Baba temple started? (when the permits were issued or the when the
>foundations were just being laid). How does it benefit anyone at mid-waters?
>
>Lastly, why did the Sai Baba people want to build a temple right next to a
>historical site?
>
>In Texas there was something vaguely similar.
>
>A mosque was being built (on land purchased by some Muslim business people).
>There was a Church nearby.
>The issuing authorities of course issued permits without batting an eyelid.
>But, no one protested when the permits were issued. Then there was a huge
>public outcry against building of the mosque.
>Now, I think it is in in litigation, and there is lot of ill feelings in
>both communities.
>
>Sometimes such confrontations can be deftly avoided with some prudence by
>both the issuing authorities and the protesting public.
>
>Religious groups often want to force their presence in some place or the
>other, just because they have a 'right' to do so. And their reasoning seems
>to be to propogate their brand of religion - make it more palatable among
>the natives, so to speak :)
>
>Also would a Naam Garh have made a difference? Don't know.
>
>Skeptical as always:)
>
>--Ram
>
>
>
>On 3/27/08, Chan Mahanta wrote:
>>
>> Can we raise OUR voices in support of these 'scribes'? It will be a
>> worthy effort.
>>
>> cm
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/details.asp?id=mar2708\State2
>>
>>
>> Scribes oppose Sai Baba temple near Bishnu Dol
>> From Our Correspondent
>> SIVASAGAR, March 26 - Scribes in Sivasagar, accredited to various
>> newspapers and channels met DC Sivasagar NM Hussain and submitted a
> > memorandum requesting him to intervene personally on behalf of
>> District Administration in the construction of a three storey mandir
>> of Sri Satya Sai Baba on a plot allegedly belonging to Sivasagar
>> Municipality Board barely a few meters away from historic Bishnu-dol.
>> It may be mentioned here that the three historic dols, Vishnu, Shiva
>> and Devidol built by Borraja Draupadi Modambika, 2nd queen of King
>> Shivasingha in 1731 AD are under preservation and protection of
>> Archeological Survey of India (ASI) since 1988. According to ancient
>> monuments and Archeologi

Re: [Assam] From AT--- What an Abomination!

[DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS]

Dada,
  As you know people of Assam gone mad.All got hidden treasure of ULFA bosta 
money!!!  They dnt want old God or goddesses.Saibaba- the saviour from IT- 
Income Tax.All ove the world people are mad- to have drinks, drugs, sex 
unlimited,save income tax for donations  etc etc.
  We need to stop all these in Assam.Saibaba is nothing but like you and me.But 
worst is he was brought up like an magician.. lagter he found people of 
Karnataka and Andhra are fools.. so he started fooling all Better is PC 
Sorcar Jr and Sr.
  Better to have a cleaner assam away from all these so called God.I feel what 
I do is more than these people...I to have miracle in my profesion what medical 
science told IMPOSSIBLE!!.
  Bikash

mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
What is this Sai BABA anyway?
Godman,Political leader,Kind of preacher,Cult hero?ASSAMESE?No!!
If someone must build a SAI BABA (living) Monument-- it should be inside the 
Jail-- North BANK OF Borpukhuri.mm> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:32:57 -0500> To: 
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Re: [Assam] From AT--- What an Abomination!

[Ram Sarangapani]

C'da

I am as sentimental as you are on the preservation of historical
/archaeological heritage. We can never emulate or replicate these original
artifacts.

The essence of what I'm trying to say is that a lot these problems could be
at least be warded off. Here, I blame the Municipality for being lax, the
Sai Baba people to trying to somehow take advantage of a possibly corruupt
district authority.
I'm also quite sure that the ASI is totally unaware of what is happening.
They might get into it after the temple is finisfed and you have devotees
running around.

But this:

>>>Why did the interested public not protest before the construction >>>of
the Sai Baba temple started?

 >I have been trying to educate you folks about that., But obviously
 >you don't learn do you?

Hehehe! Still hasn't filtered thru yet, C'da. You will have to be much
clearer.

I'm wondering, why these interested people did not protest right at the
begining. Why really wait till the temple is half-done?

Now, of course, it is entirely possible that they had no earthly idea that
the Baba temple people was going up.

>Incidentally, when I become the Emperor of Xiboxagor

Now, there you have my full support, because I know, you will atleast  be
ever vigilant and pre-empt any attempts that may affect ancient architecture
and historical monuments.:):)


--Ram






On 3/27/08, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ram:
>
> To give you a nasty  reply:
>
> Do you think the questions you ask about permits, neighborhood's
> apporval etc. have any merit in the context? What--have you become
> American or something ?
>
>
> How did the municipality land got to Sai Baban's? Good question Ram.
> But not a smart one if you forgot what I mean.
>
>
> >  >Why did the interested public not protest before the construction of
> the Sai
> >Baba temple started?
>
>
> I have been trying to educate you folks about that., But obviously
> you don't learn do you?
>
>
> >  >Lastly, why did the Sai Baba people want to build a temple right next
> to a
> >historical site?
>
> Take a wild guess!
>
>
> >  >Lastly, why did the Sai Baba people want to build a temple right next
> to a
> historical site?
>
> Take another wild guess!
>
>
>
>  Bottom line Ram is this: These are structures of  Assam's
> historical /archaeological heritage . The deserve not to be
> desecrated by new construction within its visual bounds -- no matter
> dedicated to what god/s , no matter how beautiful. It is a matter of
> cultural aesthetics, something our people need a ahuge amount of
> educating on.
>
> Incidentally, when I become the Emperor of Xiboxagor, one of the
> first things I will do  will be to tear down that horrible water tank
> that was built rifght near the Xibo-doul, nearly a quarter century
> back.
>
>
> *** The Texan Mosque v/s the Church  is an issue of religious
> bigotries on the part of the Church-wallas.
> The Moswquewallas got the permit obviously because it is an area
> zoned for Places of Worship.  So the Zoning authorities  were not at
> fault. When the dispute goes to litigation, I would bet you a dollar
> the Mosque-wallas will win. Exactly similar thing happened right here
> in St. Louis, TWICE. Both the times the Mosques got built.
>
> c-da :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> At 8:48 AM -0600 3/27/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> >C'da,
> >
> >The preservation of historical and ancient idols are, of course,
> paramount,
> >and all of us should support such efforts.
> >
> >Some questions do arise though:
> >
> >How is it possible for any private organization to build on land owned by
> >the Sivasagar Municipality Board?
> >
> >It seems the Sai Baba temple is being built as we speak, so how did the
> >District authorities give it permissions? Aren't these authorities also
> >interested in the preservation of these ancient idols?
> >
> >Why did the interested public not protest before the construction of the
> Sai
> >Baba temple started? (when the permits were issued or the when the
> >foundations were just being laid). How does it benefit anyone at
> mid-waters?
> >
> >Lastly, why did the Sai Baba people want to build a temple right next to
> a
> >historical site?
> >
> >In Texas there was something vaguely similar.
> >
> >A mosque was being built (on land purchased by some Muslim business
> people).
> >There was a Church nearby.
> >The issuing authorities of course issued permits without batting an
> eyelid.
> >But, no one protested when the permits were issued. Then there was a huge
> >public outcry against building of the mosque.
> >Now, I think it is in in litigation, and there is lot of ill feelings in
> >both communities.
> >
> >Sometimes such confrontations can be deftly avoided with some prudence by
> >both the issuing authorities and the protesting public.
> >
> >Religious groups often want to force their presence in some place or the
> >other, just because they have a 'right' to do so. And their reasoning
> seems
> >to be to propogate their brand of religion - make it m

Re: [Assam] From AT--- What an Abomination!

[mc mahant]

What is this Sai BABA anyway?
Godman,Political leader,Kind of preacher,Cult hero?ASSAMESE?No!!
If someone must build a SAI BABA  (living) Monument-- it should be inside the 
Jail-- North BANK OF Borpukhuri.mm> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:32:57 -0500> To: 
assam@assamnet.org> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Assam] From AT--- What 
an Abomination!> > Can we raise OUR voices in support of these 'scribes'? It 
will be a > worthy effort.> > cm> > > > 
http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/details.asp?id=mar2708\State2> > > Scribes 
oppose Sai Baba temple near Bishnu Dol> From Our Correspondent> SIVASAGAR, 
March 26 - Scribes in Sivasagar, accredited to various > newspapers and 
channels met DC Sivasagar NM Hussain and submitted a > memorandum requesting 
him to intervene personally on behalf of > District Administration in the 
construction of a three storey mandir > of Sri Satya Sai Baba on a plot 
allegedly belonging to Sivasagar > Municipality Board barely a few meters away 
from historic Bishnu-dol. > It may be mentioned here that the three historic 
dols, Vishnu, Shiva > and Devidol built by Borraja Draupadi Modambika, 2nd 
queen of King > Shivasingha in 1731 AD are under preservation and protection of 
> Archeological Survey of India (ASI) since 1988. According to ancient > 
monuments and Archeological Sites & Remains Act 1959, no permanent > 
construction on excavation work can be undertaken within a distance > of 200 
metres of the monuments protected by ASI. Therefore, the > scribes feel that 
the construction of the Sai Temple should be halted > and also other 
constructions in the entire area without ASI approved.> > The scribes included 
Prof Sonaram Boruah, Prof Guna Baruah, Manoj > Borthakur, Maniram Dutta, MI 
Bora, Mujhaheed Ali, Purusuttam Kalita, > Ratu Das, Ratul Konwar, Konkan Bora 
and Jyotirmoy Rajkhowa. The > scribes have also sent copies of the memorandum 
to regional director > ASI, NE Circle, Sivasagar Development Authority and 
Sivasagar > Municipality Board.> > 
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Re: [Assam] From AT--- What an Abomination!

[Chan Mahanta]

Ram:

To give you a nasty  reply:

Do you think the questions you ask about permits, neighborhood's 
apporval etc. have any merit in the context? What--have you become 
American or something ?


How did the municipality land got to Sai Baban's? Good question Ram. 
But not a smart one if you forgot what I mean.


>  >Why did the interested public not protest before the construction of the Sai
>Baba temple started?


I have been trying to educate you folks about that., But obviously 
you don't learn do you?


>  >Lastly, why did the Sai Baba people want to build a temple right next to a
>historical site?

Take a wild guess!


>  >Lastly, why did the Sai Baba people want to build a temple right next to a
historical site?

Take another wild guess!



 Bottom line Ram is this: These are structures of  Assam's 
historical /archaeological heritage . The deserve not to be 
desecrated by new construction within its visual bounds -- no matter 
dedicated to what god/s , no matter how beautiful. It is a matter of 
cultural aesthetics, something our people need a ahuge amount of 
educating on.

Incidentally, when I become the Emperor of Xiboxagor, one of the 
first things I will do  will be to tear down that horrible water tank 
that was built rifght near the Xibo-doul, nearly a quarter century 
back.


*** The Texan Mosque v/s the Church  is an issue of religious 
bigotries on the part of the Church-wallas.
The Moswquewallas got the permit obviously because it is an area 
zoned for Places of Worship.  So the Zoning authorities  were not at 
fault. When the dispute goes to litigation, I would bet you a dollar 
the Mosque-wallas will win. Exactly similar thing happened right here 
in St. Louis, TWICE. Both the times the Mosques got built.

c-da :-)





At 8:48 AM -0600 3/27/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>C'da,
>
>The preservation of historical and ancient idols are, of course, paramount,
>and all of us should support such efforts.
>
>Some questions do arise though:
>
>How is it possible for any private organization to build on land owned by
>the Sivasagar Municipality Board?
>
>It seems the Sai Baba temple is being built as we speak, so how did the
>District authorities give it permissions? Aren't these authorities also
>interested in the preservation of these ancient idols?
>
>Why did the interested public not protest before the construction of the Sai
>Baba temple started? (when the permits were issued or the when the
>foundations were just being laid). How does it benefit anyone at mid-waters?
>
>Lastly, why did the Sai Baba people want to build a temple right next to a
>historical site?
>
>In Texas there was something vaguely similar.
>
>A mosque was being built (on land purchased by some Muslim business people).
>There was a Church nearby.
>The issuing authorities of course issued permits without batting an eyelid.
>But, no one protested when the permits were issued. Then there was a huge
>public outcry against building of the mosque.
>Now, I think it is in in litigation, and there is lot of ill feelings in
>both communities.
>
>Sometimes such confrontations can be deftly avoided with some prudence by
>both the issuing authorities and the protesting public.
>
>Religious groups often want to force their presence in some place or the
>other, just because they have a 'right' to do so. And their reasoning seems
>to be to propogate their brand of religion - make it more palatable among
>the natives, so to speak :)
>
>Also would a Naam Garh have made a difference? Don't know.
>
>Skeptical as always:)
>
>--Ram
>
>
>
>On 3/27/08, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  Can we raise OUR voices in support of these 'scribes'? It will be a
>>  worthy effort.
>>
>>  cm
>>
>>
>>
>>  http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/details.asp?id=mar2708\State2
>>
>>
>>  Scribes oppose Sai Baba temple near Bishnu Dol
>>  From Our Correspondent
>>  SIVASAGAR, March 26 - Scribes in Sivasagar, accredited to various
>>  newspapers and channels met DC Sivasagar NM Hussain and submitted a
>  > memorandum requesting him to intervene personally on behalf of
>>  District Administration in the construction of a three storey mandir
>>  of Sri Satya Sai Baba on a plot allegedly belonging to Sivasagar
>>  Municipality Board barely a few meters away from historic Bishnu-dol.
>>  It may be mentioned here that the three historic dols, Vishnu, Shiva
>>  and Devidol built by Borraja Draupadi Modambika, 2nd queen of King
>>  Shivasingha in 1731 AD are under preservation and protection of
>>  Archeological Survey of India (ASI) since 1988. According to ancient
>>  monuments and Archeological Sites & Remains Act 1959, no permanent
>>  construction on excavation work can be undertaken within a distance
>>  of 200 metres of the monuments protected by ASI. Therefore, the
>>  scribes feel that the construction of the Sai Temple should be halted
>>  and also other constructions in the entire area without ASI approved.
>>
>>  The scribes included Prof Sonaram 

Re: [Assam] From AT--- What an Abomination!

[Ram Sarangapani]

C'da,

The preservation of historical and ancient idols are, of course, paramount,
and all of us should support such efforts.

Some questions do arise though:

How is it possible for any private organization to build on land owned by
the Sivasagar Municipality Board?

It seems the Sai Baba temple is being built as we speak, so how did the
District authorities give it permissions? Aren't these authorities also
interested in the preservation of these ancient idols?

Why did the interested public not protest before the construction of the Sai
Baba temple started? (when the permits were issued or the when the
foundations were just being laid). How does it benefit anyone at mid-waters?

Lastly, why did the Sai Baba people want to build a temple right next to a
historical site?

In Texas there was something vaguely similar.

A mosque was being built (on land purchased by some Muslim business people).
There was a Church nearby.
The issuing authorities of course issued permits without batting an eyelid.
But, no one protested when the permits were issued. Then there was a huge
public outcry against building of the mosque.
Now, I think it is in in litigation, and there is lot of ill feelings in
both communities.

Sometimes such confrontations can be deftly avoided with some prudence by
both the issuing authorities and the protesting public.

Religious groups often want to force their presence in some place or the
other, just because they have a 'right' to do so. And their reasoning seems
to be to propogate their brand of religion - make it more palatable among
the natives, so to speak :)

Also would a Naam Garh have made a difference? Don't know.

Skeptical as always:)

--Ram



On 3/27/08, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Can we raise OUR voices in support of these 'scribes'? It will be a
> worthy effort.
>
> cm
>
>
>
> http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/details.asp?id=mar2708\State2
>
>
> Scribes oppose Sai Baba temple near Bishnu Dol
> From Our Correspondent
> SIVASAGAR, March 26 - Scribes in Sivasagar, accredited to various
> newspapers and channels met DC Sivasagar NM Hussain and submitted a
> memorandum requesting him to intervene personally on behalf of
> District Administration in the construction of a three storey mandir
> of Sri Satya Sai Baba on a plot allegedly belonging to Sivasagar
> Municipality Board barely a few meters away from historic Bishnu-dol.
> It may be mentioned here that the three historic dols, Vishnu, Shiva
> and Devidol built by Borraja Draupadi Modambika, 2nd queen of King
> Shivasingha in 1731 AD are under preservation and protection of
> Archeological Survey of India (ASI) since 1988. According to ancient
> monuments and Archeological Sites & Remains Act 1959, no permanent
> construction on excavation work can be undertaken within a distance
> of 200 metres of the monuments protected by ASI. Therefore, the
> scribes feel that the construction of the Sai Temple should be halted
> and also other constructions in the entire area without ASI approved.
>
> The scribes included Prof Sonaram Boruah, Prof Guna Baruah, Manoj
> Borthakur, Maniram Dutta, MI Bora, Mujhaheed Ali, Purusuttam Kalita,
> Ratu Das, Ratul Konwar, Konkan Bora and Jyotirmoy Rajkhowa. The
> scribes have also sent copies of the memorandum to regional director
> ASI, NE Circle, Sivasagar Development Authority and Sivasagar
> Municipality Board.
>
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[Assam] From AT--- What an Abomination!

[Chan Mahanta]

Can we raise OUR voices in support of these 'scribes'? It will be a 
worthy effort.

cm



http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/details.asp?id=mar2708\State2


Scribes oppose Sai Baba temple near Bishnu Dol
 From Our Correspondent
  SIVASAGAR, March 26 - Scribes in Sivasagar, accredited to various 
newspapers and channels met DC Sivasagar NM Hussain and submitted a 
memorandum requesting him to intervene personally on behalf of 
District Administration in the construction of a three storey mandir 
of Sri Satya Sai Baba on a plot allegedly belonging to Sivasagar 
Municipality Board barely a few meters away from historic Bishnu-dol. 
It may be mentioned here that the three historic dols, Vishnu, Shiva 
and Devidol built by Borraja Draupadi Modambika, 2nd queen of King 
Shivasingha in 1731 AD are under preservation and protection of 
Archeological Survey of India (ASI) since 1988. According to ancient 
monuments and Archeological Sites & Remains Act 1959, no permanent 
construction on excavation work can be undertaken within a distance 
of 200 metres of the monuments protected by ASI. Therefore, the 
scribes feel that the construction of the Sai Temple should be halted 
and also other constructions in the entire area without ASI approved.

The scribes included Prof Sonaram Boruah, Prof Guna Baruah, Manoj 
Borthakur, Maniram Dutta, MI Bora, Mujhaheed Ali, Purusuttam Kalita, 
Ratu Das, Ratul Konwar, Konkan Bora and Jyotirmoy Rajkhowa. The 
scribes have also sent copies of the memorandum to regional director 
ASI, NE Circle, Sivasagar Development Authority and Sivasagar 
Municipality Board.

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[Chan Mahanta]

Aw all these cry-babies. If they contacted terrorists they should 
have known they could get burnt. Now all the so-called human rights 
orgs will be up in arms, seeking justice, claiming undemocratic 
behavior and the soft-state will give in. They should ask Rubi Bhuyan 
or ULFA apologists  how democratic ULFA is.



:-).













At 9:32 AM -0500 10/8/07, Roy, Santanu wrote:

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Scribe in jail for showing police in bad light
From Our Correspondent
 BAIHATA CHARIALI, Oct 7 - Anubhab Kumar, Changsari Correspondent of 
Asomiya Khabar on Thursday has been sent to Nalbari jail after 
producing him before the court of Dharitri Barman, first class 
magistrate of Rangia. Police had arrested Kumar on Wednesday for 
keeping good relation with ULFA.


Though the police of Kamalpur PS wanted Kumar in police custody for 
two days the Magistrate declined to accept the request of the 
police. Police sources said that Kumar distorted the incident of the 
killing of Dr PC Ram, Executive Director of FCI and presented that 
news against the police to besmear their image among the public.


On the contrary, Kumar claimed that to collect data for news 
purpose, a journalist may keep relation with various organisations, 
which may not be a crime. A section of people said that the 
correspondent exposed the failure of the police to rescue Dr PC Ram 
alive from the custody of ULFA. It is because of this reason, police 
arrested the correspondent and registered a case threatening him 
like a dreaded criminal. A section of people have alleged that 
police violated IPC No. 19(1) A by arresting the correspondent in 
this connection.


Meanwhile AASU, AJYCP, AUS, including Kamrup District Journalists 
Association (KDJA), Saraighat Press Club, Rangia Press Club, Baihata 
Chariali and Kamalpur Press Club along with various local 
socio-cultural and women organisations have vehemently protested the 
move of the police in connection with the arrest of the 
correspondent.



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Hi Santanu:

The link does not work. What was the story on?







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[Roy, Santanu]

Scribe in jail for showing police in bad light
>From Our Correspondent
 BAIHATA CHARIALI, Oct 7 - Anubhab Kumar, Changsari Correspondent of
Asomiya Khabar on Thursday has been sent to Nalbari jail after producing
him before the court of Dharitri Barman, first class magistrate of
Rangia. Police had arrested Kumar on Wednesday for keeping good relation
with ULFA.

Though the police of Kamalpur PS wanted Kumar in police custody for two
days the Magistrate declined to accept the request of the police. Police
sources said that Kumar distorted the incident of the killing of Dr PC
Ram, Executive Director of FCI and presented that news against the
police to besmear their image among the public. 

On the contrary, Kumar claimed that to collect data for news purpose, a
journalist may keep relation with various organisations, which may not
be a crime. A section of people said that the correspondent exposed the
failure of the police to rescue Dr PC Ram alive from the custody of
ULFA. It is because of this reason, police arrested the correspondent
and registered a case threatening him like a dreaded criminal. A section
of people have alleged that police violated IPC No. 19(1) A by arresting
the correspondent in this connection.

Meanwhile AASU, AJYCP, AUS, including Kamrup District Journalists
Association (KDJA), Saraighat Press Club, Rangia Press Club, Baihata
Chariali and Kamalpur Press Club along with various local socio-cultural
and women organisations have vehemently protested the move of the police
in connection with the arrest of the correspondent. 

 



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Hi Santanu:

 

The link does not work. What was the story on?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Chan Mahanta]

Hi Santanu:

The link does not work. What was the story on?







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http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/details.asp?id=oct0807\State5




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[Assam] From AT

[Roy, Santanu]

http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/details.asp?id=oct0807\State5

 

 

 

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[umesh sharma]

Good work by Fr Mathew Das ! Atleast he decided to devote his life for upliftment of the people - instead of killing dissidents--unlike ULFA.      Jesuits came about by the yeoman work done by the founders of Society of Jesus - in developing an organizational setup - which ensures development work --and very importnantly funding from the rich. Hindus should learn from their system - so that Hindu priests be also heralded by such news articles - to say the least.      :)     Umeshpriyankoo sarma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:The Assam Tribune onlineGuwahati, Monday, November 28, 2005STATEFirst Assamese Catholic priest to work in NepalGUWAHATI, Nov 27 – Father Mathew Das (Mintu), the first Catholic priest from among the ethnic Assamese
 people will go to Nepal to work there.Father Mathew joined the Jesuits (Society of Jesus) in 1992 and was ordained as a priest at Gossaigaon on November 20, 2005.He was born in North Guwahati in 1970. He did his school studies at Tezpur, Ambagaon and Gossaigaon and higher studies in Bettiah, Bihar and Kathmandu, Nepal. After that he began to teach at Kathmandu. During these years he and his brother decided to become Christians. When he was at Kathmandu, Mathew felt a call to become a Jesuit Priest and he joined the Society of Jesus (Jesuits) in 1992. He graduated in philosophy at Janadeepa Vidyapeeth, Pune, in theology at Vidyajyoti College, Delhi and earned the Bachelor of Education degree at Namchi, Sikkim.Most of his relatives who remain Hindus are proud of one of their members offering himself to become a Catholic priest and to work in Nepal. Thirty of them were present at his priestly ordination at Gossaigaon and offered him to the persons who had come
 from Nepal. His cousin’s husband, municipal corporator Mohan Medhi has been assisting him. Dex matho eta dharona, thikonar xex xari... The most important thing in life is never to forget who you are... http://plaza.ufl.edu/priyanku ___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org  Umesh Sharma5121 Lackwanna STCollege Park, MD 20740 1-202-215-4328 [Cell Phone]Ed.M. - International Education PolicyHarvard Graduate School of Education,Harvard
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[priyankoo sarma]

The Assam Tribune online
Guwahati, Monday, November 28, 2005
STATE
First Assamese Catholic priest to work in Nepal
 GUWAHATI, Nov 27 – Father Mathew Das (Mintu), the first Catholic priest from among the ethnic Assamese people will go to Nepal to work there.

Father Mathew joined the Jesuits (Society of Jesus) in 1992 and was ordained as a priest at Gossaigaon on November 20, 2005.

He was born in North Guwahati in 1970. He did his school studies at Tezpur, Ambagaon and Gossaigaon and higher studies in Bettiah, Bihar and Kathmandu, Nepal. After that he began to teach at Kathmandu. During these years he and his brother decided to become Christians. When he was at Kathmandu, Mathew felt a call to become a Jesuit Priest and he joined the Society of Jesus (Jesuits) in 1992. He graduated in philosophy at Janadeepa Vidyapeeth, Pune, in theology at Vidyajyoti College, Delhi and earned the Bachelor of Education degree at Namchi, Sikkim.

Most of his relatives who remain Hindus are proud of one of their members offering himself to become a Catholic priest and to work in Nepal. Thirty of them were present at his priestly ordination at Gossaigaon and offered him to the persons who had come from Nepal. His cousin’s husband, municipal corporator Mohan Medhi has been assisting him.



Dex matho eta dharona, thikonar xex xari...
The most important thing in life is never to forget who you are...


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