Re: [Assam] S&P President Deven Sharma's comments after downgrade of the U.S. triple-A credit rating

2011-08-09 Thread Ram Dhar

But that does not dispute the fact that the US needs to clean up mess. And
> > surely a lot of mess !!

You bet, people want to pay less tax and want  more benefits  !!  Economy is 
not growing.. where will the money come from :-)
 
look around , it's alarming ...
 
1. Israel - protests  around the country  over price rise.  
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/09/will-the-protests-in-israel-bring-down-netanyahu/?hpt=hp_bn2
2. Spain,Greece, Portugal - have experienced protests and rioting in reaction 
to government austerity programs and bad economic conditions. 
3. Phillipines - workers are demanding higher pay
4. China - Cab drivers are protesting rising price of gas. Inflation - food 
prices have increased by  10% 
5. UK - stunning images of riots all over. I was watching BBC , there is anger 
in UKs urban poors for years.It has now exploded. 
6. Arab spring revolt  
6. India - great Indian tamasha on Lokpal continues ! 
 
ttyl
 
 
 
> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 19:03:36 -0500
> From: assa...@gmail.com
> To: utpal_bra...@yahoo.com; assam@assamnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Assam] S&P President Deven Sharma's comments after downgrade of 
> the U.S. triple-A credit rating
> 
> Hehehe, Utpal... took the words outtamymouth :-)
> 
> While Desi born CEOs and Presidents don't have to be Republicans or Dems,
> they are susceptible to the same errors (?), and often laced with bottom
> line numbers :-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Utpal Brahma wrote:
> 
> > Isn't it the same S & P who had ranked the mortgage backed securities with
> > AAA status that brought about the economic debacle? Isn't it the same S & P
> > that awarded Lehman Brothers with AAA till the last moment.
> >
> > Sure they do have credibility 
> >
> > But that does not dispute the fact that the US needs to clean up mess. And
> > surely a lot of mess !!
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: Dilip Deka 
> > To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world <
> > assam@assamnet.org>
> > Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 10:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Assam] S&P President Deven Sharma's comments after downgrade
> > of the U.S. triple-A credit rating
> >
> > Do you think Deven Sharma is a republican in disguise trying to throw Obama
> > out?
> > Or is he in league with Obama to put the blame on the republicans in the
> > house?
> > Or is he a realist calling things as they really are?
> > We have enough economists in the net who can comment on it if they want to
> > educate us.
> > Thanks,
> > Dilip Deka
> > ===
> > S&P President: We Have No Political Agenda
> > Published: Monday, 8 Aug 2011 | 5:14 PM ET
> > Text Size
> > By: Margo D. Beller
> > Special to CNBC.com
> >
> >
> >
> > * Twitter
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> > *
> >
> > Standard & Poor's CEO defended his company's downgrade of the U.S. triple-A
> > credit rating, saying S&P had no political agenda and was not
> > overcompensating for missing the subprime mortgage mess that precipitated
> > the current economic situation.
> > "Our role is to call the risks objectively, with transparency, and that’s
> > what we try to do to fulfill our role and that’s what our job is for the
> > benefit of investors," Deven Sharma told CNBC Monday.
> > He pointed out that going from a triple-A to double-A-plus rating "doesn’t
> > mean [the U.S. is] going to default, it just means its more risky today than
> > a year ago."
> > S&P factored in the political process because it "speaks to how the fiscal,
> > economic and monetary choices are being made," Sharma said, adding he was
> > pleased by President Obama's speech today addressing the need for U.S.
> > lawmakers to have a new sense of urgency to tackle long-term deficit
> > spending.
> > S&P's view was based on a number of factors including projections of rising
> > debt levels. Sharma said despite cuts mandated by last week's debt-ceiling
> > legislation, the U.S. 2015 debt level will be $14 trillion, or 25 percent
> > higher than today. "The fact is, the debt levels are still doubling from
> > where we are today and that is an issue to address," he said.
> > He said S&P regretted its part in the subprime mortgage mess. "Clearly the
> > housing declines were much more severe than we forecasted or anticipated,"
> > he said, and the r

Re: [Assam] S&P President Deven Sharma's comments after downgrade of the U.S. triple-A credit rating

2011-08-09 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Hehehe, Utpal... took the words outtamymouth :-)

While Desi born CEOs and Presidents don't have to be Republicans or Dems,
they are susceptible to the same errors (?), and often laced with bottom
line numbers :-)





On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Utpal Brahma wrote:

> Isn't it the same S & P who had ranked the mortgage backed securities with
> AAA status that brought about the economic debacle?  Isn't it the same S & P
> that awarded Lehman Brothers with AAA till the last moment.
>
> Sure they do have credibility 
>
> But that does not dispute the fact that the US needs to clean up mess.  And
> surely a lot of mess !!
>
>
>
> 
> From: Dilip Deka 
> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world <
> assam@assamnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 10:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Assam] S&P President Deven Sharma's comments after downgrade
> of the U.S. triple-A credit rating
>
> Do you think Deven Sharma is a republican in disguise trying to throw Obama
> out?
> Or is he in league with Obama to put the blame on the republicans in the
> house?
> Or is he a realist calling things as they really are?
> We have enough economists in the net who can comment on it if they want to
> educate us.
> Thanks,
> Dilip Deka
> ===
> S&P President: We Have No Political Agenda
> Published: Monday, 8 Aug 2011 | 5:14 PM ET
> Text Size
> By: Margo D. Beller
> Special to CNBC.com
>
>
>
> * Twitter
> * LinkedIn
> * More Share
> *
>
> Standard & Poor's CEO defended his company's downgrade of the U.S. triple-A
> credit rating, saying S&P had no political agenda and was not
> overcompensating for missing the subprime mortgage mess that precipitated
> the current economic situation.
> "Our role is to call the risks objectively, with transparency, and that’s
> what we try to do to fulfill our role and that’s what our job is for the
> benefit of investors," Deven Sharma told CNBC Monday.
> He pointed out that going from a triple-A to double-A-plus rating "doesn’t
> mean [the U.S. is] going to default, it just means its more risky today than
> a year ago."
> S&P factored in the political process because it "speaks to how the fiscal,
> economic and monetary choices are being made," Sharma said, adding he was
> pleased by President Obama's speech today addressing the need for U.S.
> lawmakers to have a new sense of urgency to tackle long-term deficit
> spending.
> S&P's view was based on a number of factors including projections of rising
> debt levels. Sharma said despite cuts mandated by last week's debt-ceiling
> legislation, the U.S. 2015 debt level will be $14 trillion, or 25 percent
> higher than today. "The fact is, the debt levels are still doubling from
> where we are today and that is an issue to address," he said.
> He said S&P regretted its part in the subprime mortgage mess. "Clearly the
> housing declines were much more severe than we forecasted or anticipated,"
> he said, and the rating agency has "made many changes in putting new checks
> and balances in our organization. We are committed to the reform process."
> Sharma said the drop in markets Monday was not necessarily a reflection of
> the S&P downgrade.
> "The market reacts in many ways, sometimes unexplainable, but our ratings
> really address the fundamentals of the creditworthiness," he said. "The
> market could be reacting to the fact there is a slowdown in economic growth.
> It could be reacting to what’s happening in Europe. It could be what’s
> happening in the U.S. There are multiple factors that...contribute to how
> the market reacts."
>
> 
> From: Ram Dhar 
> To: assam@assamnet.org
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 8:08 PM
> Subject: [Assam] S&P President Deven Sharma's comments after downgrade of
> the U.S. triple-A credit rating
>
>
>
>
> Read and watch  Deven Sharma's comment on the downgrade  which has sent
> shock waves  across  global  financial market.
>
> http://www.cnbc.com/id/44062256
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Re: [Assam] S&P President Deven Sharma's comments after downgrade of the U.S. triple-A credit rating

2011-08-08 Thread Utpal Brahma
Isn't it the same S & P who had ranked the mortgage backed securities with AAA 
status that brought about the economic debacle?  Isn't it the same S & P that 
awarded Lehman Brothers with AAA till the last moment.

Sure they do have credibility  

But that does not dispute the fact that the US needs to clean up mess.  And 
surely a lot of mess !!




From: Dilip Deka 
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 

Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] S&P President Deven Sharma's comments after downgrade of 
the U.S. triple-A credit rating

Do you think Deven Sharma is a republican in disguise trying to throw Obama out?
Or is he in league with Obama to put the blame on the republicans in the house?
Or is he a realist calling things as they really are?
We have enough economists in the net who can comment on it if they want to 
educate us.
Thanks,
Dilip Deka
===
S&P President: We Have No Political Agenda
Published: Monday, 8 Aug 2011 | 5:14 PM ET
Text Size
By: Margo D. Beller
Special to CNBC.com



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Standard & Poor's CEO defended his company's downgrade of the U.S. triple-A 
credit rating, saying S&P had no political agenda and was not overcompensating 
for missing the subprime mortgage mess that precipitated the current economic 
situation.
"Our role is to call the risks objectively, with transparency, and that’s what 
we try to do to fulfill our role and that’s what our job is for the benefit of 
investors," Deven Sharma told CNBC Monday.
He pointed out that going from a triple-A to double-A-plus rating "doesn’t mean 
[the U.S. is] going to default, it just means its more risky today than a year 
ago."
S&P factored in the political process because it "speaks to how the fiscal, 
economic and monetary choices are being made," Sharma said, adding he was 
pleased by President Obama's speech today addressing the need for U.S. 
lawmakers to have a new sense of urgency to tackle long-term deficit spending.
S&P's view was based on a number of factors including projections of rising 
debt levels. Sharma said despite cuts mandated by last week's debt-ceiling 
legislation, the U.S. 2015 debt level will be $14 trillion, or 25 percent 
higher than today. "The fact is, the debt levels are still doubling from where 
we are today and that is an issue to address," he said.
He said S&P regretted its part in the subprime mortgage mess. "Clearly the 
housing declines were much more severe than we forecasted or anticipated," he 
said, and the rating agency has "made many changes in putting new checks and 
balances in our organization. We are committed to the reform process."
Sharma said the drop in markets Monday was not necessarily a reflection of the 
S&P downgrade.
"The market reacts in many ways, sometimes unexplainable, but our ratings 
really address the fundamentals of the creditworthiness," he said. "The market 
could be reacting to the fact there is a slowdown in economic growth. It could 
be reacting to what’s happening in Europe. It could be what’s happening in the 
U.S. There are multiple factors that...contribute to how the market reacts."


From: Ram Dhar 
To: assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 8:08 PM
Subject: [Assam] S&P President Deven Sharma's comments after downgrade of the 
U.S. triple-A credit rating




Read and watch  Deven Sharma's comment on the downgrade  which has sent shock 
waves  across  global  financial market.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44062256                       
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Re: [Assam] S&P President Deven Sharma's comments after downgrade of the U.S. triple-A credit rating

2011-08-08 Thread Dilip Deka
Do you think Deven Sharma is a republican in disguise trying to throw Obama out?
Or is he in league with Obama to put the blame on the republicans in the house?
Or is he a realist calling things as they really are?
We have enough economists in the net who can comment on it if they want to 
educate us.
Thanks,
Dilip Deka
===
S&P President: We Have No Political Agenda
Published: Monday, 8 Aug 2011 | 5:14 PM ET
Text Size
By: Margo D. Beller
Special to CNBC.com



* Twitter
* LinkedIn
* More Share
* 
 
Standard & Poor's CEO defended his company's downgrade of the U.S. triple-A 
credit rating, saying S&P had no political agenda and was not overcompensating 
for missing the subprime mortgage mess that precipitated the current economic 
situation.
"Our role is to call the risks objectively, with transparency, and that’s what 
we try to do to fulfill our role and that’s what our job is for the benefit of 
investors," Deven Sharma told CNBC Monday.
He pointed out that going from a triple-A to double-A-plus rating "doesn’t mean 
[the U.S. is] going to default, it just means its more risky today than a year 
ago."
S&P factored in the political process because it "speaks to how the fiscal, 
economic and monetary choices are being made," Sharma said, adding he was 
pleased by President Obama's speech today addressing the need for U.S. 
lawmakers to have a new sense of urgency to tackle long-term deficit spending.
S&P's view was based on a number of factors including projections of rising 
debt levels. Sharma said despite cuts mandated by last week's debt-ceiling 
legislation, the U.S. 2015 debt level will be $14 trillion, or 25 percent 
higher than today. "The fact is, the debt levels are still doubling from where 
we are today and that is an issue to address," he said.
He said S&P regretted its part in the subprime mortgage mess. "Clearly the 
housing declines were much more severe than we forecasted or anticipated," he 
said, and the rating agency has "made many changes in putting new checks and 
balances in our organization. We are committed to the reform process."
Sharma said the drop in markets Monday was not necessarily a reflection of the 
S&P downgrade.
"The market reacts in many ways, sometimes unexplainable, but our ratings 
really address the fundamentals of the creditworthiness," he said. "The market 
could be reacting to the fact there is a slowdown in economic growth. It could 
be reacting to what’s happening in Europe. It could be what’s happening in the 
U.S. There are multiple factors that...contribute to how the market reacts."


From: Ram Dhar 
To: assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 8:08 PM
Subject: [Assam] S&P President Deven Sharma's comments after downgrade of the 
U.S. triple-A credit rating




Read and watch  Deven Sharma's comment on the downgrade  which has sent shock 
waves  across  global  financial market.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44062256                           
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