Re: PTF level in SYSPRINT

2014-04-03 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 11:45:36 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote:

On 2 April 2014 06:04, Sharuff Morsa3 wrote:
 It is interesting to note that the IBM Installation manager is fast
 catching up on installing...
 http://www.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/WP102014
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi7F0QTT7oo
 Session 10633 given by Mike Loos at  SHARE back in 2012 (available at
 SHARE web site)

 Will it replace smp/e for all products ?

I must admit I'd never heard of IBM Installation Manager.

Neither had I, but from the youtube video above, it seems that the
products that are Installed by the Installation Manager are
actually installed in a two step process. The first step is to
install the zip files with SMP/E. The second is to install the
contents of the zip files into the appropriate Unix directories
with the Installation Manager.

I don't see how this could be something that could replace SMP/E.

--
Tom Marchant


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2014-04-03 Thread John Walker
Is the null character termination of execio a new thing, or just something I 
was not aware of before this?  Unfortunately, with the new crowd of pc-minted 
programmers taking over in the mainframe realm, we are likely to see more and 
more datasets with the accursed null string in it.

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 PTF level in SYSPRINT
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 CPU Measurement Facility
 Documentation (2)
 Rexx substr not retiring
 string


 PTF level in
 SYSPRINT
 PTF level in SYSPRINT
 (04/02)
 From: Sharuff Morsa3 sharuff_mo...@uk.ibm.com
 Re: PTF level in
 SYSPRINT (04/02)
 From: Jonathan Scott
 jonathan_sc...@vnet.ibm.com
 Re: PTF level in
 SYSPRINT (04/02)
 From: John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com
 Re: PTF level in
 SYSPRINT (04/02)
 From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com
 Re: PTF level in
 SYSPRINT (04/02)
 From: Tony Harminc t...@harminc.com
 Re: PTF level in
 SYSPRINT (04/02)
 From: John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com
 CPU Measurement Facility
 Documentation
 CPU Measurement Facility
 Documentation (04/02)
 From: Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com
 Re: CPU Measurement
 Facility Documentation (04/02)
 From: Martin Truebner
 mar...@pi-sysprog.de
 Rexx substr not retiring
 string
 Re: Rexx substr not
 retiring string (04/02)
 From: Bob Raicer r...@raicer.com






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PTF level in SYSPRINT? (was: ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest ...)

2014-04-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-04-03, at 10:46, John Walker wrote:

 Is the null character termination of execio a new thing, or just something I 
 was not aware of before this?  Unfortunately, with the new crowd of pc-minted 
 programmers taking over in the mainframe realm, we are likely to see more and 
 more datasets with the accursed null string in it.
 

Not null character, but null string

What's wrong with null strings?

Please use a more meaningful Subject: than ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest.  Move
your cursor to the Subject: line and type what it should be.

-- gil


Automatic reply: PTF level in SYSPRINT? (was: ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest ...)

2014-04-03 Thread Capps, Joey
I am out of the office until Tuesday - Dan Smith is in charge in my place.

Thanks,
Joey


PTF level in SYSPRINT? (was: ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest ...)

2014-04-03 Thread Ze'ev Atlas
No John, it is not a PC/Unix/Linux conspiracy

I posses a book that was published on 2006 by Gabe Gargiulo and it is NOT the 
first version of that book (and it is not a hard-to-read manual from IBM, just 
a common basic book for self learning of Rexx.)  The name of this book it The 
Rexx Language on TSO.  On page 160, the author put in a frame (for extra 
emphasis:) and here is what Gabe says in simple English:


The devious '*'
EXECIO * DISKW OUTFILE
I've seen an * used in writing.  I do not use it, because it requires a null 
line to signify 'end of file'.
What if you wanted to write a null line?  You wouldn't be able to.


The issue of '*' in EXECIO DISKW is well known, well documented and is 
problematic for few reasons, but I think Gabe summarized it from both ends, if 
you use '*', you both need a null line lest Rexx won't know were to stop... and 
you cannot print an empty line (i.e. length 0).
 
Ze'ev Atlas 





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Is the null character termination of execio a new thing, or just something I 
was not aware of before this?  Unfortunately, with the new crowd of pc-minted 
programmers taking over in the mainframe realm, we are likely to see more and 
more datasets with the accursed null string in it.

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Table of contents:

PTF level in SYSPRINT
(6)
CPU Measurement Facility
Documentation (2)
Rexx substr not retiring
string


PTF level in
SYSPRINT
PTF level in SYSPRINT
(04/02)
From: Sharuff Morsa3 sharuff_mo...@uk.ibm.com
Re: PTF level in
SYSPRINT (04/02)
From: Jonathan Scott
jonathan_sc...@vnet.ibm.com
Re: PTF level in
SYSPRINT (04/02)
From: John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com
Re: PTF level in
SYSPRINT (04/02)
From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com
Re: PTF level in
SYSPRINT (04/02)
From: Tony Harminc t...@harminc.com
Re: PTF level in
SYSPRINT (04/02)
From: John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com
CPU Measurement Facility
Documentation
CPU Measurement Facility
Documentation (04/02)
From: Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com
Re: CPU Measurement
Facility Documentation (04/02)
From: Martin Truebner
mar...@pi-sysprog.de
Rexx substr not retiring
string
Re: Rexx substr not
retiring string (04/02)
From: Bob Raicer r...@raicer.com






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