Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Re: Fax and h323

2005-05-11 Thread Brian West
On May 11, 2005, at 9:36 AM, Steve Underwood wrote:
Mark told me it will go in as one of the pure GPL addons. It will  
not be
disclaimed. I wanted to know if I could use its ASN.1 code in my  
T.38
implementation. Because of this I haven't. This seems to mean the  
new
H.323 will have problems with things like G.729
Mark paid for the channel driver.. so that is fully Digium's (just  
not the ooh323c lib)

/b
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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] [Rant] [long] - code style and quality

2005-05-11 Thread David McNett
I don't want to protract this debte, since it really is a matter for Mark
(as bkw rightly points out), but this article seemed remarkably apropos:

  http://joelonsoftware.com/articles/Wrong.html

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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Re: New h.323 channel driver

2005-05-11 Thread Paul Cadach
Hello,

Michael Manousos wrote:
> > The problems mostly relies on OpenH323 - there is deadlock condition, check 
> > #3967. Also, under high load single
cleaner
>
> I have also notice them, but only with the Pandora or above versions.
> That's the main reason that asterisk-oh323 has stuck with the Janus
> version of OpenH323/Pwlib.

I do about the same with chan_h323 about 1,5 years ago, and have the same 
troubles with pre-Pandora releases of
OpenH323...


WBR,
Paul.

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[Asterisk-Dev] Re: Fax and h323

2005-05-11 Thread Steve Underwood
I can confirm that any faxing over IP is hit and miss unless it uses 
T.38, and even then most implementations of that are buggy. Since both 
SIP and H.323 use RTP as the audio transport medium, the results should 
be precisely the same whichever you use. If not, you probably did 
something wrong.

TRANSPORTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SPANDSP.
I hate to shout, but people really do find it hard to get to grips with 
that.

Regards,
Steve
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Do you confirm whether spandsp can handle faxes in h323? I haven't manage to
make it work apart from SIP/ IAX2
Selon Steve Underwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 

Eric Wieling aka ManxPower wrote:
   

Will this code be disclaimed so it can be added to CVS-HEAD?
 

Mark told me it will go in as one of the pure GPL addons. It will not be
disclaimed. I wanted to know if I could use its ASN.1 code in my T.38
implementation. Because of this I haven't. This seems to mean the new
H.323 will have problems with things like G.729.
Regards,
Steve
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[Asterisk-Dev] Fax and h323

2005-05-11 Thread ht
Hi,

Do you confirm whether spandsp can handle faxes in h323? I haven't manage to
make it work apart from SIP/ IAX2


Selon Steve Underwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Eric Wieling aka ManxPower wrote:
>
> > Will this code be disclaimed so it can be added to CVS-HEAD?
> >
> Mark told me it will go in as one of the pure GPL addons. It will not be
> disclaimed. I wanted to know if I could use its ASN.1 code in my T.38
> implementation. Because of this I haven't. This seems to mean the new
> H.323 will have problems with things like G.729.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
>
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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Re: New h.323 channel driver

2005-05-11 Thread Brian West
Current code has nothing to do with it really.  If you do follow  
the  readme with the included chan_h323 that you wrote all you get  
is a  nice segfault when the module loads.  It works fine with  
something  like redhat 9 or older slackware.  I suspect that using  
gcc 3.4.3 has  something to do with it.  This channel driver from  
ObjSys compiles,  loads and actually makes a call.  Which is more  
than I could ever get  your driver to do on the same box.

So instead of filing a bug report you simply bitch about it?
Go back to your hole.
My my we are bitter today aren't we...  I would file a report if we  
actually used your code.

/b
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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Re: New h.323 channel driver

2005-05-11 Thread Steve Underwood
Eric Wieling aka ManxPower wrote:
Will this code be disclaimed so it can be added to CVS-HEAD?
Mark told me it will go in as one of the pure GPL addons. It will not be 
disclaimed. I wanted to know if I could use its ASN.1 code in my T.38 
implementation. Because of this I haven't. This seems to mean the new 
H.323 will have problems with things like G.729.

Regards,
Steve
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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] chan_bluetooth

2005-05-11 Thread David Woodhouse
On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 08:26 -0500, Brent Priddy wrote:
> here is the output of asterisk -vvvcd  on 2.6.7 and
> 2.4.when making an outbound call from my motorola v600 cell phone, IAX
> softphone is calling my T610  (if you keep scrolling you will see the
> output from my Sony/Erricson T610)

Hm, useful debugging -- thanks. It looks like the T610 is starting the
SCO connection for itself, while the v600 expects us to open it. 

Try adding 'sco_start(dev, -1);' immediately after the 
send_atcmd(..."ATD%s;"...) in blt_call().

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RE: [Asterisk-Dev] Re: New h.323 channel driver

2005-05-11 Thread Senad J
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Chih-Wei Huang wrote:
>
>> Sounds like you don't understand very well what you talked about...
>>
>
> He just wants free support so he can make money without spending any,
> yet doesn't want to learn anything on his own.

I am not after free support. As for spending less money, yes any business
wishes to get more out every dollar spent.

We have spent time and time to configure H323 for quite few clients and we
have learnt
what was needed and successfully deployed H323.

I just wish other people on this list do not have to go thru same pain. That
is all :)

Senad

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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Re: New h.323 channel driver

2005-05-11 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Senad J wrote:
Just compare it to SIP, and you will see HUGE differences :)
 

Because SIP is the new H.323.   

Jeremy McNamara
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RE: [Asterisk-Dev] Re: New h.323 channel driver

2005-05-11 Thread Senad J
 > Documentation?
> I think Openh323 much more rich documenations than ooh323c.
> Check
>
> http://www.voxgratia.org/

cool.. now we are getting somewhere... :)

> Even the old unmaintained www.openh323.org
> contains enough information for a beginner to
> study and programming.

You are missing my point...
Documentation, hints etc.. for the usage of H323 in asterisk
not GENERAL knowledge.

>> Wiki has got very litle information...
> Do you mean www.voip-info.org?
> Yeah... voip-info contains few information about Openh323.
> But that just means there are lesser intersections between
> community of Openh323 and voip-info.
>> Googling does not help... there are more mailing list "fights"
>> between OH323 and open_h323 then useful information :)
> Fights between what? I'm confused...
> Openh323 is an H.323 protocol stack, what OH323 means?
> Do you mean ooh323c, another H.323 stack in C by Objective Systems?
> Or chan_oh323, another Asterisk H.323 channel driver by
> inAccessNetwork?

Well.. above you are answering your own question with correct answers...
I wonder why did you ask it in first place?

> Sounds like you don't understand very well what you talked about...

Yes... exactly the point and that is correct..
I have NOT a clue about asterisk H323... and do you know why?

Answer:
Because there is not enough asterisk H323 related docs, hints, examples
etc...

Just compare it to SIP, and you will see HUGE differences :)



Senad

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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Re: New h.323 channel driver

2005-05-11 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Eric Wieling aka ManxPower wrote:
Will this code be disclaimed so it can be added to CVS-HEAD?
Digium BOUGHT it.  I would hope it would get added to cvs -head.
Jeremy McNamara
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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Re: New h.323 channel driver

2005-05-11 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Brian West wrote:
Current code has nothing to do with it really.  If you do follow the  
readme with the included chan_h323 that you wrote all you get is a  
nice segfault when the module loads.  It works fine with something  
like redhat 9 or older slackware.  I suspect that using gcc 3.4.3 has  
something to do with it.  This channel driver from ObjSys compiles,  
loads and actually makes a call.  Which is more than I could ever get  
your driver to do on the same box.

So instead of filing a bug report you simply bitch about it?
Go back to your hole.
Jeremy McNamara
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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Re: New h.323 channel driver

2005-05-11 Thread Brian West
Let me remind all you people, Digium PAID for this newest H.323  
driver to be developed.  For whatever reason is beyond me.  I have  
always had very good luck using reasonable volumes of traffic on my  
H.323 driver when using the proper versions of Open H.323 as  
defined in the README.
If you don't actually read the documentation, you will not make it  
work.
To have something they knew would work with some sort of  
reliability.  The channel driver in CVS and ooh323 both have issues  
and do not work for everyone.  If I take your chan_h323 compile and  
install it to the letter in the README it will segfault on load.  I  
compile and install this new driver which isn't even complete yet and  
I can at least make a phone call with it.  I do not mean any  
disrespect to you or your code ... this is just one more option that  
people will have.

/b
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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Re: New h.323 channel driver

2005-05-11 Thread Eric Wieling aka ManxPower
Will this code be disclaimed so it can be added to CVS-HEAD?
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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Re: New h.323 channel driver

2005-05-11 Thread Brian West

If you would run even semi-current code chan_h323 performs  
wonderfully against As5300s - both inbound and outbound.

Think before you type.
Jeremy McNamara

Current code has nothing to do with it really.  If you do follow the  
readme with the included chan_h323 that you wrote all you get is a  
nice segfault when the module loads.  It works fine with something  
like redhat 9 or older slackware.  I suspect that using gcc 3.4.3 has  
something to do with it.  This channel driver from ObjSys compiles,  
loads and actually makes a call.  Which is more than I could ever get  
your driver to do on the same box.

/b
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Re: [Asterisk-Dev] [Rant] [long] - code style and quality

2005-05-11 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On May 10, 2005 09:56 pm, Brian West wrote:
> Lets clarify.. the "power" that be is Mark Spencer... I doubt he seen
> this thread.

Nonsense.  You read it.  I read it.  many people who contribute to asterisk 
read it, and many people who may want to start their patching foray will read 
it.

It really is a shame that Mark doesn't, but he's unbelievably busy and he gets 
his news through the grapevine, of which anyone who talks to him is part, and 
it's THOSE people who are reading this.

-A.
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