[asterisk-users] Goto not jumping to current context

2007-01-08 Thread Dinesh Nair


in a simple dialplan like follows:

[firstcontext]
include = secondcontext
include = thirdcontext
include = fourthcontext

[fourthcontext]
_03X.,1,Goto(${EXTEN:2},1)

_X.,1,DoSomething()
_X.,2,Hangup()

the Goto() for exten _03X. seems to start the search for the jump within 
firstcontext, thus possibly matching an exten in secondcontext or 
thirdcontext first before hitting the matchall in fourthcontext. obviously, 
a simple fix would be to change it to Goto(fourthcontext,${EXTEN:2},1).


however, i dont remember Goto working this way. shouldn't a Goto search 
within the current context first when the context parameter is ommitted ?


it's asterisk 1.2.14 in FreeBSD 6.1 though.

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RE: [asterisk-users] AMAFlags alwaysDocumentation (or 3 inastcdrmysql) even after Set(CDR(amaflags)=bill) or SetAMAFlags(bill)

2007-01-08 Thread Scott Keagy
Already using the CDR(userfield), and overloading it with multiple variables 
will make some DB operations nastier to work with (I'm a little fuzzy and vague 
on exactly what... something to do with sql joins?). I'm digging deeper into 
how much pain it really causes us on the DB/App side to see if our work-arounds 
there are less painful than trying to get AMAFlags to work.

 

It seems that AMAFlags are a really seldom used feature, considering that I'm 
asking same question that went unanswered several years ago.

 

Thanks all,

Scott

 



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Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 9:46 PM
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Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] AMAFlags alwaysDocumentation (or 3 
inastcdrmysql) even after Set(CDR(amaflags)=bill) or SetAMAFlags(bill)

 

Hello

 

Why not use the CDR(userfield) field instead. You can set that to any integer 
of your liking, and use that to identify the type of call.

 

Jon

 

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Subject: [asterisk-users] AMAFlags alwaysDocumentation (or 3 in astcdrmysql) 
even after Set(CDR(amaflags)=bill) or SetAMAFlags(bill)

 

Is anyone out there using AMAFlags? I'd like to set this field as a marker to 
distinguish different types of calls in CDRs, but can't seem to make it respond 
to the documented commands Set(CDR(amaflags)=bill) or SetAMAFlags(bill).

 

I've googled this issue, seen others have had this problem with IAX, with 
different DB drivers for CDR records, etc. I'm using SIP and LOCAL channels, 
asterisk-1.4beta2 release (I don't think upgrading to current release will fix 
this problem, it's been around for years based on trouble reports), both text 
.csv and mysql astcdr.cdr types.

 

Seems like a problem with basic AMAflags support in CDR. They always show up as 
DOCUMENTATION in the .csv text file, and they always show up as '3' in mysql. I 
hurt my brain trying to follow the layers of indirection in the source code for 
where this is actually set. With verbosity turned on in asterisk console I can 
see the SetAMAFlags function being run.

 

Any tips, tricks, or pointers in the right direction?

 

Thanks,

Scott

 

 

 

 

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[asterisk-users] MFC/R2 problems

2007-01-08 Thread yusuf

Hi all,

I have Asterisk 1.2.10, zaptel 1.2.7, spandsp-0.0.3pre22 compiled, and a Sangoma A101, and when I 
make a call I get this:



Jan  8 13:04:06 DEBUG[12252]: chan_unicall.c:2000 unicall_exception: Exception 
on 19, channel 1
Jan  8 13:04:06 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report: MFC/R2 UniCall/1  - 1101 
[1/  40/Seize /Idle ]
Jan  8 13:04:06 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report: MFC/R2 UniCall/1 0 on  - 
[2/  40/Group I /Idle ]
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report: MFC/R2 UniCall/1 R2 prot. err. 
[2/  40/Group I /DNIS ] cause 32769 - T1 timed out
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report: MFC/R2 UniCall/1 0 off - 
[1/   1/Idle /Idle ]
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report: MFC/R2 UniCall/1 1001  - 
[1/   1/Idle /Idle ]

Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:2644 handle_uc_event: Unicall/1 
event Protocol failure
-- Unicall/1 protocol error. Cause 32769
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report: MFC/R2 
UniCall/1 Channel echo cancel
Jan  8 13:04:11 DEBUG[12252]: chan_unicall.c:955 unicall_disable_ec: disabled echo cancellation on 
channel 1


Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12250]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report: MFC/R2 UniCall/1  - 1001 
[1/   1/Idle /Idle ]
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12250]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report: MFC/R2 UniCall/1 1001  - 
[1/   1/Idle /Idle ]

-- Hungup 'UniCall/1-1'


What does - Unicall/1 protocol error. Cause 32769 mean, and can anyone help 
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Re: [asterisk-users] SIP/RTP Nat problem, can't solute it.

2007-01-08 Thread Facundo Barrera - GMail

Still i cannot resolve this issue, please anyone can help me with this?

Thanks in advance

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Re: [asterisk-users] Interrupt rates and voip traffic

2007-01-08 Thread Gordon Henderson

On Mon, 8 Jan 2007, Rajkumar S wrote:


Hi,

This is slightly off topic, but here I go any way...

VoIP traffic has lot's of smaller packets, and since each packet can
generate an interrupt, is there any way to determine the irq rates in
a machine, and more importantly to know if I am hitting any of the
limits in Linux or to determine how much interrupts per second can my
box handle ?

There seems to absolutely no information about his particular metric any 
where..


watch -n1 cat /proc/interrupts

That'll give you the basic counters, but to generate graphs, etc. you'll 
need to use something else. Maybe MRTG.


As to what the limits are , I've no idea - a lot will depend on your
hardware, cpu, kernel compile options and so on.

You may want to know how many packets a second that can pas through an 
interface - that may be more informative than interrupts though. You can 
query packets per second via SNMP or simple using ifconfig and looking at 
the numbers.


Gordon
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Re: [asterisk-users] MusicOnHold Files

2007-01-08 Thread Matt Riddell (NZ)
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Yuan LIU wrote:
 One item in my todo list is to make better sound quality whenever end
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 than toll.  So why do we still need to convert to 8 bit?

Should be 16 bit, 8Khz, not 8 bit.

However, your point stands, that it should be able to use 44.1Khz
instead of 8Khz.

The problem is, there is still quite a bit of work to support larger
sample rates without simply doing passthrough.

If I remember correctly, someone did have a patch and a bit of work done
for 1.2.  Maybe this made it into 1.4?

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[asterisk-users] Manage 'full' log file

2007-01-08 Thread jan.sarin
Hi,

I need some help on how to manage the full log file. It's getting
quite large now and I'd like to clear it. Is there any simple command
for this or should I just delete the file (need to be sure this won't
affect the system).

Also - how do I keep the log file from growing so large?

Thanks!

Regards,
Jan
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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Ex Vitorino

  /var/lib/asterisk/licenses

 :-)

On 1/8/07, Xue Liangliang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, leo, I will try the following solution that seperate
/usr/lib/asterisk/modules in another patition other than drbd, then
register the licenses on both server. not sure where the license key
acutally  lies in?


Regards,
Liangliang

Leo Ann Boon wrote:

 Xue Liangliang wrote:

 Hi, actutally it is kind of shareing storage, because we use drbd and
 vserver technology, the fail over is at vserver level, and vserver is
 synced through drbd storage.

 drdb - that's what I suspected. Off the top of my head, the fastest
 way is to reactivate using the new master's MAC. The proper solution
 is to only use drdb for data that should be shared like the conf and
 database. The license key portion should not be on a device that's
 being mirrored by drdb.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Manage 'full' log file

2007-01-08 Thread Ex Vitorino

 We've been using logrotate without any issue... We're using
 the below quoted configuration. Notice the invocation of
 Asterisk's CLI logger reload command so as to close the
 old files and open new ones.

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 /var/log/asterisk/messages /var/log/asterisk/queue_log
/var/log/asterisk/event_log {
   weekly
   rotate 52
   dateext
   compress
   delaycompress
   nocreate
   missingok
   sharedscripts
   postrotate
   /usr/sbin/asterisk -rx logger reload
   endscript
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SV: [asterisk-users] Manage 'full' log file

2007-01-08 Thread jan.sarin
Thanks for the quick response!

I read about logrotate at voip-info.org but I didn't quite understand it. I'm 
no asterisk/linux expert unfortunately.

First of all. What exactly does happen when I run:
/usr/sbin/asterisk -rx 'logger rotate'

Does it clear the file and create a new one? Can I run this manually without 
any interruption in the system?

And what does the script do? I understand it rotates the logs. But does it 
delete the old files? Where do I put the script? How do I run it? As you can 
see I'm really a newbie on this. Unfortunately the docs for asterisk are often 
with the expectation that you know everything... :)

Regards,
Jan

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  We've been using logrotate without any issue... We're using
  the below quoted configuration. Notice the invocation of
  Asterisk's CLI logger reload command so as to close the
  old files and open new ones.

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  /var/log/asterisk/messages /var/log/asterisk/queue_log 
/var/log/asterisk/event_log {
weekly
rotate 52
dateext
compress
delaycompress
nocreate
missingok
sharedscripts
postrotate
/usr/sbin/asterisk -rx logger reload
endscript
  }
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RE: [asterisk-users] Which is GUI to edit Asterisk IVR logic

2007-01-08 Thread shadowym
Yes, trixbox includes more bloat and more problems.  Let's clarify
something, trixbox includes FOP which is part of FreePBX!

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On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Olivier wrote:

 By Trixbox, do you mean FreePBX (formely AMP) ?

Trixbox includes FreePBX but it also includes some other stuff like FOP and
an open-source install of SugarCRM. FreePBX is also available as a
standalone program.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Which is GUI to edit Asterisk IVR logic

2007-01-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 04:40:14AM -0800, shadowym wrote:
 Yes, trixbox includes more bloat and more problems.  Let's clarify
 something, trixbox includes FOP which is part of FreePBX!

FOP is actually an independent application. 

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Re: [asterisk-users] jitterbuffer on sip.conf

2007-01-08 Thread Pavel Jezek
but keep in mind, that jb for sip (generic jitterbuffer) is implemented 
differently, than iax, so it works only for SIP-SIP calls, or SIP-ZAP
and, curious, eg. for SIP-ZAP call must be activated for (outgoing) ZAP 
channel :-\




yusuf wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In iax.conf there is option jitterbuffer
how about sip protocol ? Are jitterbuffer can configure in sip.conf ?

Thanks, for your share




If you upgrade to 1.4, there is a jitterbuffer available now for the 
SIP channel.



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Re: SV: [asterisk-users] Manage 'full' log file

2007-01-08 Thread Mailinglisten

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

Thanks for the quick response!

I read about logrotate at voip-info.org but I didn't quite understand it. I'm 
no asterisk/linux expert unfortunately.

First of all. What exactly does happen when I run:
/usr/sbin/asterisk -rx 'logger rotate'

Does it clear the file and create a new one? Can I run this manually without 
any interruption in the system?

And what does the script do? I understand it rotates the logs. But does it 
delete the old files? Where do I put the script? How do I run it? As you can see I'm 
really a newbie on this. Unfortunately the docs for asterisk are often with the 
expectation that you know everything... :)

Regards,
Jan

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  We've been using logrotate without any issue... We're using
  the below quoted configuration. Notice the invocation of
  Asterisk's CLI logger reload command so as to close the
  old files and open new ones.

  Cheers,
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  Ex Vito


  /var/log/asterisk/messages /var/log/asterisk/queue_log 
/var/log/asterisk/event_log {
weekly
rotate 52
dateext
compress
delaycompress
nocreate
missingok
sharedscripts
postrotate
/usr/sbin/asterisk -rx logger reload
endscript
  }
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This script goes into /etc/logrotate.d in a seperate file. It will 
compress the log weekly and store it in the same directory the original 
log was in.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Manage 'full' log file

2007-01-08 Thread Lenz

Hi Jan,
You should use the logrotate in order to delete the log on periodic  
intervals. This article is meant to do exactly the opposite :)  
http://astrecipes.net/index.php?n=205 but you get an idea of how to setup  
log file rotation and how to notify Asterisk that it should open a new  
file after the log rotation.


Hope this helps
l.


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Hi,

I need some help on how to manage the full log file. It's getting
quite large now and I'd like to clear it. Is there any simple command
for this or should I just delete the file (need to be sure this won't
affect the system).

Also - how do I keep the log file from growing so large?

Thanks!

Regards,
Jan




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[asterisk-users] IAX call path optimization with more than 3 legs

2007-01-08 Thread Ramon Schönborn
hi list,

after connecting 3 asterisk servers via IAX in a line
(+ 1 client at each end), i noticed that call path
optimization happens only one time, i.e. only one
node/leg in the path can be reduced.
Does anybody know if this is the intended behaviour or
if it's a bug? 
Can anyone confirm my observations?
It seems that the first node, that sends the TXREQ
Message, is optimized.

For better understanding:
before optimization:
C1  A1  A2  A3  C2
after:
C1  A1  A2  C2

C1/2: Client with Kiax application
A1/2/3: Asterisk Server 1.2.12.1, on Ubuntu Linux
---.: Connection via IAX protocol

thanx for reading, Ramon

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Re: [asterisk-users] answer machine detection

2007-01-08 Thread Matt Riddell (NZ)
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Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote:
 Is there anyone with any experience of using the AMD app and the
 settings that worked for them in the UK ?
 
 Any help would be appreciated.

Hi, I'm using it in New York, and we seem to be having good success (on
this particular provider) with:

[general]
initial_silence = 3700
greeting = 2500
after_greeting_silence = 1200
total_analysis_time = 6000
min_word_length = 100
between_words_silence = 50
maximum_number_of_words = 4
silence_threshold = 860

Disclaimer: just use this as a starting point, go into the console with
debug and verbose up, and make sure that for every word you speak, it
recognises a word, then try again with cellphones instead of landlines.

Remember that you're not going to get 100%, some answer machine messages
may have been recorded quietly etc.

You'll need to also make sure that the upstream provider doesn't answer
the call and then provide ringing (as the stanaphone DID we were testing
did).

Report back how you go on this, maybe we should start a wiki page with
settings in different places.

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SV: [asterisk-users] Manage 'full' log file

2007-01-08 Thread jan.sarin
Super! Thanks! Now I see how the script works a bit more clearly. :)

I still don't understand what happens if I run:
/usr/sbin/asterisk -rx 'logger rotate'

Can I run the above without having the script? What will the command do?

Regards,
Jan

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Hi Jan,
You should use the logrotate in order to delete the log on periodic intervals. 
This article is meant to do exactly the opposite :)
http://astrecipes.net/index.php?n=205 but you get an idea of how to setup log 
file rotation and how to notify Asterisk that it should open a new file after 
the log rotation.

Hope this helps
l.


On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:00:52 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I need some help on how to manage the full log file. It's getting 
 quite large now and I'd like to clear it. Is there any simple command 
 for this or should I just delete the file (need to be sure this won't 
 affect the system).

 Also - how do I keep the log file from growing so large?

 Thanks!

 Regards,
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Re: [asterisk-users] MFC/R2 problems

2007-01-08 Thread Josué Conti

Hi Yusuf, how are you?
It orders in the list its configurations, so that let us can help.

Best Regards

Josue

2007/1/8, yusuf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hi all,

I have Asterisk 1.2.10, zaptel 1.2.7, spandsp-0.0.3pre22 compiled, and a
Sangoma A101, and when I
make a call I get this:


Jan  8 13:04:06 DEBUG[12252]: chan_unicall.c:2000 unicall_exception:
Exception on 19, channel 1
Jan  8 13:04:06 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report: MFC/R2
UniCall/1  - 1101
[1/  40/Seize /Idle ]
Jan  8 13:04:06 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report: MFC/R2
UniCall/1 0 on  -
[2/  40/Group I /Idle ]
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report: MFC/R2
UniCall/1 R2 prot. err.
[2/  40/Group I /DNIS ] cause 32769 - T1 timed out
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report: MFC/R2
UniCall/1 0 off -
[1/   1/Idle /Idle ]
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report: MFC/R2
UniCall/1 1001  -
[1/   1/Idle /Idle ]
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:2644 handle_uc_event:
Unicall/1 event Protocol failure
 -- Unicall/1 protocol error. Cause 32769
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report: MFC/R2
UniCall/1 Channel echo cancel
Jan  8 13:04:11 DEBUG[12252]: chan_unicall.c:955 unicall_disable_ec:
disabled echo cancellation on
channel 1

Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12250]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report: MFC/R2
UniCall/1  - 1001
[1/   1/Idle /Idle ]
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12250]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report: MFC/R2
UniCall/1 1001  -
[1/   1/Idle /Idle ]
 -- Hungup 'UniCall/1-1'


What does - Unicall/1 protocol error. Cause 32769 mean, and can anyone
help me.

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Re: SV: [asterisk-users] Manage 'full' log file

2007-01-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 02:28:19PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Super! Thanks! Now I see how the script works a bit more clearly. :)
 
 I still don't understand what happens if I run:
 /usr/sbin/asterisk -rx 'logger rotate'
 
 Can I run the above without having the script? What will the command do?

If you use that, make sure you don't have logrotate configured. I
generally find logrotate to be more robust and tunable. It is not
Asterisk's job to mess with the policy of log rotation on the system.

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Re: [asterisk-users] answer machine detection

2007-01-08 Thread Julian Lyndon-Smith

great help. Thanks for that Matt.

One thing that is really confusing me at this point: if I want to leave 
an automated answer machine message, and amd tells me it's a machine, 
how do I know when to start leaving the message ? Some intros are long 
(thanks for calling, me and mine are not here right now, please leave a 
message after the beep) and some are short Leave a message.


Is there a way of waiting in the dialplan for a beep or something like 
that ?


Julian.

Matt Riddell (NZ) wrote:

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Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote:

Is there anyone with any experience of using the AMD app and the
settings that worked for them in the UK ?

Any help would be appreciated.


Hi, I'm using it in New York, and we seem to be having good success (on
this particular provider) with:

[general]
initial_silence = 3700
greeting = 2500
after_greeting_silence = 1200
total_analysis_time = 6000
min_word_length = 100
between_words_silence = 50
maximum_number_of_words = 4
silence_threshold = 860

Disclaimer: just use this as a starting point, go into the console with
debug and verbose up, and make sure that for every word you speak, it
recognises a word, then try again with cellphones instead of landlines.

Remember that you're not going to get 100%, some answer machine messages
may have been recorded quietly etc.

You'll need to also make sure that the upstream provider doesn't answer
the call and then provide ringing (as the stanaphone DID we were testing
did).

Report back how you go on this, maybe we should start a wiki page with
settings in different places.

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Re: RE : [asterisk-users] Happy 2007!!!

2007-01-08 Thread Dovid B
I am an addict to teasin. Takes one to know on ;)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Lynn 
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
  Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 7:12 PM
  Subject: Re: RE : [asterisk-users] Happy 2007!!!


  Dovid, you're killing me.  This after asking if we can't all just be nice to 
each other.


  On 1/1/07, Dovid B  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adam and bill are both wrong. The world revolves around me. Geeez cant we 
cut the crap (i.e. Happy new year is followed by a response that hey it isnt 
the new year here yet) If you need the attention find a place where there 
is a live TV feed (report) and say I am a tool, I need attention 
Geez.. (As a disclamer don't do it. I just hope you get my point)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Hackensack 
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
  Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 6:08 PM
  Subject: Re: RE : [asterisk-users] Happy 2007!!!


  On 12/31/06, Adam Jacob Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
It's still 2006 here

-Adam

  Well, Adam, I guess it is all about you.  What does the rest of the world 
look like as it revolves around you?

   


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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Matthew Rubenstein
I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to connect with
a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk server
originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I pre-encode those
stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded for each call? If
so, do I need a g729 license for each call, or just a license for the
preencoder? If the robocalls accept incoming DTMF, do I need g729
licenses for those calls?


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
 From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
 Xue Liangliang wrote:
  Hi, all
 
  I am a pabx vendor from Singapore. Recently we are going to
 implement 
  a failover solution for our customers using heartbeat, the asterisk 
  server can failover perfectly, however the g729 codec canot work, 
  because it is binded the mac address, we have bought two set of 
  licenses, can you provide us some workaround for this scenario?
 It shouldn't be a problem if you're only doing IP takeover and have 
 bound the licenses to each server separately.  If you're sharing the 
 storage, then that could pose a problem.
 
 Leo
 DatVoiz Singapore Pte Ltd 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Thomas Kenyon

Matthew Rubenstein wrote:

I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to connect with
a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk server
originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I pre-encode those
stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded for each call?


Yes, if you are using asterisk 1.4 then in the CLI you can type:

convert 
filename-including-path-if-not-in-asterisk-sounds-folder.original 
extension filename-including-path-if-not-in-asterisk-sounds-folder.g729


so convert recording.ulaw recording.g729

Will make a permanent copy not requireing transcoding again.

If you are using asterisk 1.2, there is a tool on the asteriskguru site 
to transcode the file for you.


http://www.asteriskguru.com/tools/audio_conversion.php


If
so, do I need a g729 license for each call, or just a license for the
preencoder?


You will need a license for when the file is encoded, after that if it 
is played back on a g729 call you will not need a license. Asterisk will 
automatically choose the lowest cost file to playback (which one in 
natvie format will be).


 If the robocalls accept incoming DTMF, do I need g729

licenses for those calls?



You only need a license when you are transcoding, if you have an 
incoming call that is g729 and you terminate the call to a device that 
is configured to use g729 then you will not need a license.


If you are recording the call then you will need (possibly 2) llicenses.

DTMF signals do not require a license (although the device generating 
them needs to be configured to use RFC 2833 or Out of Band for DMTF 
encoding).

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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Matthew Rubenstein
Thank you, that is excellent advice.

I understand that Intel has a free g729 codec, and that there might be
others. Free g729 codecs cheat Digium of some income that helps keep
them producing free Asterisk (and hosting lists like this one), but what
other reasons (quality, performance, missing features) would make the
Digium (or other $) license worth paying for?


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 14:40 +, Thomas Kenyon wrote:
 Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
  I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to connect with
  a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk server
  originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I pre-encode those
  stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded for each call?
 
 Yes, if you are using asterisk 1.4 then in the CLI you can type:
 
 convert 
 filename-including-path-if-not-in-asterisk-sounds-folder.original 
 extension filename-including-path-if-not-in-asterisk-sounds-folder.g729
 
 so convert recording.ulaw recording.g729
 
 Will make a permanent copy not requireing transcoding again.
 
 If you are using asterisk 1.2, there is a tool on the asteriskguru site 
 to transcode the file for you.
 
 http://www.asteriskguru.com/tools/audio_conversion.php
 
  If
  so, do I need a g729 license for each call, or just a license for the
  preencoder?
 
 You will need a license for when the file is encoded, after that if it 
 is played back on a g729 call you will not need a license. Asterisk will 
 automatically choose the lowest cost file to playback (which one in 
 natvie format will be).
 
   If the robocalls accept incoming DTMF, do I need g729
  licenses for those calls?
  
 
 You only need a license when you are transcoding, if you have an 
 incoming call that is g729 and you terminate the call to a device that 
 is configured to use g729 then you will not need a license.
 
 If you are recording the call then you will need (possibly 2) llicenses.
 
 DTMF signals do not require a license (although the device generating 
 them needs to be configured to use RFC 2833 or Out of Band for DMTF 
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Re: [asterisk-users] MFC/R2 problems

2007-01-08 Thread yusuf

Hi,

if that means I should post my config, here goes:

zaptel:
span=1,1,3,cas,hdb3,crc4
cas=1-15:1101
cas=17-31:1101

unicall.conf:
protocolvariant=id,10,10
protocolend=cpe
group=1
channel = 1-15
channel = 17-31

wanpipe1.conf
FE_MEDIA= E1
FE_LCODE= HDB3
FE_FRAME= CRC4
FE_LINE = 1
TE_CLOCK= NORMAL
TE_REF_CLOCK= 0
TE_HIGHIMPEDANCE= NO
LBO = 120OH
TE_SIG_MODE = CAS
FE_TXTRISTATE   = NO
MTU = 1500
UDPPORT = 9000
TTL = 255
IGNORE_FRONT_END = NO
TDMV_SPAN   = 1
TDMV_DCHAN  = 16

[w1g1]
ACTIVE_CH   = ALL
TDMV_ECHO_OFF   = NO
TDMV_HWEC   = NO



Josué Conti wrote:

Hi Yusuf, how are you?
It orders in the list its configurations, so that let us can help.

Best Regards

Josue

2007/1/8, yusuf  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi all,

I have Asterisk 1.2.10, zaptel 1.2.7, spandsp-0.0.3pre22 compiled,
and a Sangoma A101, and when I
make a call I get this:


Jan  8 13:04:06 DEBUG[12252]: chan_unicall.c:2000 unicall_exception:
Exception on 19, channel 1
Jan  8 13:04:06 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report:
MFC/R2 UniCall/1  - 1101
[1/  40/Seize /Idle ]
Jan  8 13:04:06 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report:
MFC/R2 UniCall/1 0 on  -
[2/  40/Group I /Idle ]
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report:
MFC/R2 UniCall/1 R2 prot. err.
[2/  40/Group I /DNIS ] cause 32769 - T1 timed out
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report:
MFC/R2 UniCall/1 0 off -
[1/   1/Idle /Idle ]
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report:
MFC/R2 UniCall/1 1001  -
[1/   1/Idle /Idle ]
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:2644 handle_uc_event:
Unicall/1 event Protocol failure
 -- Unicall/1 protocol error. Cause 32769
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12252]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report:
MFC/R2 UniCall/1 Channel echo cancel
Jan  8 13:04:11 DEBUG[12252]: chan_unicall.c:955 unicall_disable_ec:
disabled echo cancellation on
channel 1

Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12250]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report:
MFC/R2 UniCall/1  - 1001
[1/   1/Idle /Idle ]
Jan  8 13:04:11 WARNING[12250]: chan_unicall.c:627 unicall_report:
MFC/R2 UniCall/1 1001  -
[1/   1/Idle /Idle ]
 -- Hungup 'UniCall/1-1'


What does - Unicall/1 protocol error. Cause 32769 mean, and can
anyone help me.

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RE: [asterisk-users] Block some number outgoing from joust oneextention

2007-01-08 Thread Mattias Andersson

Hi!
Unfortunately did this stop Asterisk to register ny phones and trunk.
Did I put tit in the wrong place?
//Mattias

Hi!
Exactly what I needed.
It was the 209 part that I did not figure put.
Thanks!
//Mattias


At 03:53 2007-01-05, you wrote:

exten = _9070X./209,1,NoOP,SORRY CHARLIE
exten = _9070X./209,2,Congestion
This would block any call from 209 to 070X as 
long as 9 was your outside digit.


I use the NoOP to help me out with the CLI and debugging :)

Hope this helps

Mark


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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Block some number 
outgoing from joust oneextention


Thanks!
I can´t rely figure out how to block for only one extension.
Eg. Extension 209 need to be blocked from making 
calls starting with 070  (eg. 9070).

Some clues did I get bout would it men a new form-internal-blocked dialplan?
Regards
Mattias


On 04/01/07, C F mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The easiest way is thru using contexts.
On 1/3/07, Mattias Andersson 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all!
 I am shore someone have writing about it bout I cant find it.
 I have a extension that I need to block from making expansive mobil calls.
 Everyone else should be aloud to do the calls.

 I am shore it is possible to be done sens I had a
 commercial asterisk based PBX that I did that on.
 However I have switch to Trixbox because I need
 some custom functions not supported by the commercial product.
 I would appreciate all help.
 Regards
 Mattias






 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Paul
Biggest feature: You need a patent license to use the codec. The intel
software does not include a patent license.

Matthew Rubenstein wrote:

   Thank you, that is excellent advice.

   I understand that Intel has a free g729 codec, and that there might be
others. Free g729 codecs cheat Digium of some income that helps keep
them producing free Asterisk (and hosting lists like this one), but what
other reasons (quality, performance, missing features) would make the
Digium (or other $) license worth paying for?


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 14:40 +, Thomas Kenyon wrote:
  

Matthew Rubenstein wrote:


 I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to connect with
a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk server
originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I pre-encode those
stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded for each call?
  

Yes, if you are using asterisk 1.4 then in the CLI you can type:

convert 
filename-including-path-if-not-in-asterisk-sounds-folder.original 
extension filename-including-path-if-not-in-asterisk-sounds-folder.g729

so convert recording.ulaw recording.g729

Will make a permanent copy not requireing transcoding again.

If you are using asterisk 1.2, there is a tool on the asteriskguru site 
to transcode the file for you.

http://www.asteriskguru.com/tools/audio_conversion.php



If
so, do I need a g729 license for each call, or just a license for the
preencoder?
  

You will need a license for when the file is encoded, after that if it 
is played back on a g729 call you will not need a license. Asterisk will 
automatically choose the lowest cost file to playback (which one in 
natvie format will be).

  If the robocalls accept incoming DTMF, do I need g729


licenses for those calls?

  

You only need a license when you are transcoding, if you have an 
incoming call that is g729 and you terminate the call to a device that 
is configured to use g729 then you will not need a license.

If you are recording the call then you will need (possibly 2) llicenses.

DTMF signals do not require a license (although the device generating 
them needs to be configured to use RFC 2833 or Out of Band for DMTF 
encoding).



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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Al Bochter

What about the free open source G729

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email



Matthew Rubenstein wrote:


I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to connect with
a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk server
originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I pre-encode those
stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded for each call? If
so, do I need a g729 license for each call, or just a license for the
preencoder? If the robocalls accept incoming DTMF, do I need g729
licenses for those calls?


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
   asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Xue Liangliang wrote:
   


Hi, all

I am a pabx vendor from Singapore. Recently we are going to
 

implement 
   

a failover solution for our customers using heartbeat, the asterisk 
server can failover perfectly, however the g729 codec canot work, 
because it is binded the mac address, we have bought two set of 
licenses, can you provide us some workaround for this scenario?
 

It shouldn't be a problem if you're only doing IP takeover and have 
bound the licenses to each server separately.  If you're sharing the 
storage, then that could pose a problem.


Leo
DatVoiz Singapore Pte Ltd 
   


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[asterisk-users] Adding 4000 Lines to asteriskdb via asterisk -rx ?

2007-01-08 Thread Christoph Adomeit
Hi there,

I want to add 4000 Callerids and Callernames to my asterisk-db.
(/var/lib/asterisk/astdb)

I do not want an external database or an sql-database because I do 
not want asterisk to depend on external processes.

However, when I do 4000 database put number name via a shellscript
and asterisk -rx I only have 600 entries later in my asterisk-
database. The asterisk sockets seems not to be designed for
bulk updates to the asterisk-db. I also don't want to add 4000
sleep 1 to my shell-script.

Does anybody have an Idea how to add these lines to asterisk ? I
managed to Build a Perl DB_File Module for db1.8.5 but I do not
have the know how how to use DB_file and db1 databases.

Are there some external utilities to lock and update the asteriskdb ?
Is there a better way ?

Thanks
  Christoph

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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Mike

Al Bochter wrote:
What about the free open source G729 


To use a g729 codec you must pay a license fee to the patent holder. It 
is immaterial as to whether the implementation is open/closed source.

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Re: SV: [asterisk-users] Manage 'full' log file

2007-01-08 Thread lenz


You know that if you rename an open Unix file, it will stay open - i.e. if  
you rename the logfile full to full.1, Asterisk will continue writing  
to full.1 thinking it was full.
The logger rotate command forces all log files to be closed and reopened  
with their canonical names, so your file is actually rotated.

Hope this helps
l.


In data Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:28:19 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:


Super! Thanks! Now I see how the script works a bit more clearly. :)

I still don't understand what happens if I run:
/usr/sbin/asterisk -rx 'logger rotate'

Can I run the above without having the script? What will the command do?

Regards,
Jan

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Ämne: Re: [asterisk-users] Manage 'full' log file

Hi Jan,
You should use the logrotate in order to delete the log on periodic  
intervals. This article is meant to do exactly the opposite :)
http://astrecipes.net/index.php?n=205 but you get an idea of how to  
setup log file rotation and how to notify Asterisk that it should open a  
new file after the log rotation.


Hope this helps
l.


On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:00:52 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

I need some help on how to manage the full log file. It's getting
quite large now and I'd like to clear it. Is there any simple command
for this or should I just delete the file (need to be sure this won't
affect the system).

Also - how do I keep the log file from growing so large?

Thanks!

Regards,
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[asterisk-users] ARA extensions ordering

2007-01-08 Thread Jesse Peterson

Hello List,

I am curious how the ordering of the extensions are determined for an  
ARA dial-plan.  For example, if I have these:


_9X.
_9011.

Which is selected first?  Any number dialed starting with 9011 is  
matched by either rule here and I don't remember seeing any ORDER BY  
clauses when I had debugged the ARA queries.  I'm sure I just missed  
some critical documentation here.


Thoughts?

THanks,
- Jesse


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[asterisk-users] Re: ARA extensions ordering

2007-01-08 Thread Steven
I am sot sure, but you can use the following to make sure:

_9.
_9011.



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Jesse Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hello List,

 I am curious how the ordering of the extensions are determined for an  ARA 
 dial-plan.  For example, if I have these:

 _9X.
 _9011.

 Which is selected first?  Any number dialed starting with 9011 is  matched by 
 either rule here and I don't remember seeing any 
 ORDER BY  clauses when I had debugged the ARA queries.  I'm sure I just 
 missed  some critical documentation here.

 Thoughts?

 THanks,
 - Jesse


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[asterisk-users] Realtime Voicemail Table Column Name Question

2007-01-08 Thread JR Richardson

Hi All,

In the realtime voicemail table the column 'customer_id' is used, for
my purpose, to specify the customers accountcode.  The column name
'accountcode' is used in the iax and sip tables.  To keep this
consistent throughout the tables, is there any reason I should NOT
switch the column name 'customer_id' to 'accountcode' in the voicemail
table?  Does Asterisk read from the 'customer_id' column for anything?
Is the name particular and need to remain 'customer_id' for any
reason?

Thanks.

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[asterisk-users] Re: Adding 4000 Lines to asteriskdb via asterisk -rx ?

2007-01-08 Thread Steven
How much would all of  that data slow down asterisk?
Is astdb made to handle that much data?

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Christoph Adomeit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi there,

 I want to add 4000 Callerids and Callernames to my asterisk-db.
 (/var/lib/asterisk/astdb)

 I do not want an external database or an sql-database because I do
 not want asterisk to depend on external processes.

 However, when I do 4000 database put number name via a shellscript
 and asterisk -rx I only have 600 entries later in my asterisk-
 database. The asterisk sockets seems not to be designed for
 bulk updates to the asterisk-db. I also don't want to add 4000
 sleep 1 to my shell-script.

 Does anybody have an Idea how to add these lines to asterisk ? I
 managed to Build a Perl DB_File Module for db1.8.5 but I do not
 have the know how how to use DB_file and db1 databases.

 Are there some external utilities to lock and update the asteriskdb ?
 Is there a better way ?

 Thanks
  Christoph

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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Matthew Rubenstein
As far as I know, the g729 patent requires buying a license to operate
any implementation of it, whether Digium's, Intel's, or any other.
Digium is set up to collect royalties (perhaps at a favorable rate) as
part of their license from the patent holder. I don't know about Intel
or any other. Or what the mechanics are for enforcing the patent on
someone who operates a codec without a license.


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 10:51 -0500, Al Bochter wrote:
 What about the free open source G729
 
 Best regards,
 
 Al Bochter
 Bochter Services
 http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
 
 
 
 Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
 
  I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to connect with
 a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk server
 originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I pre-encode those
 stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded for each call? If
 so, do I need a g729 license for each call, or just a license for the
 preencoder? If the robocalls accept incoming DTMF, do I need g729
 licenses for those calls?
 
 
 On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 
 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
 From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
 Xue Liangliang wrote:
 
 
 Hi, all
 
 I am a pabx vendor from Singapore. Recently we are going to
   
 
 implement 
 
 
 a failover solution for our customers using heartbeat, the asterisk 
 server can failover perfectly, however the g729 codec canot work, 
 because it is binded the mac address, we have bought two set of 
 licenses, can you provide us some workaround for this scenario?
   
 
 It shouldn't be a problem if you're only doing IP takeover and have 
 bound the licenses to each server separately.  If you're sharing the 
 storage, then that could pose a problem.
 
 Leo
 DatVoiz Singapore Pte Ltd 
 
 
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[asterisk-users] G729 license counting

2007-01-08 Thread Michel

Hello,

How many licenses to buy?? :

From what we understood from digium website,  we must buy as many  
licenses as the number of maximum simultaneous calls using G729 Codec we 
wish to make.


For example, If we want to be able to make  a maximum of 10 simultaneous 
calls using G729 Codec, we must buy 10 licenses.


Is it right?


Thanks you
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Re: [asterisk-users] Problems with park

2007-01-08 Thread Scott Walde

Leo Ann Boon wrote:



Are you doing a blind transfer or attended transfer? I'm assuming 
you're using the phone's transfer button. You may need to press 
transfer a second time to complete the transfer.


Attended.  I have decided my problem is with transfer, not specifically 
parking.  I just noticed I'm having a similar problem transferring on 
another system I recently upgraded to 1.4.  When I try to complete the 
transfer, I get Transfer Failed on my LCD, and the following on my 
console:


[Jan  8 10:32:31] WARNING[30406]: chan_sip.c:12317 handle_response: 
Notify answer on an owned channel?


I have set the transfer context (did I do that right?  internal 
context contains the extension I'm transferring to)

exten = 101,1,Set(*__TRANSFER_CONTEXT*=internal)

I have even caused Asterisk to crash a couple of times.  I'm beginning 
to wonder if I'm hitting a bug in 1.4.  I've noticed a few other people 
have got the notify answer... message.  I'm going to try downgrading 
to 1.2.14 to see if it works there.

In the meantime, and additional wisdom would still be appreciated.
ttyl
srw

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Re: [asterisk-users] Re: ARA extensions ordering

2007-01-08 Thread George Pajari

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+config+extensions.conf+sorting

Consult the wiki!

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Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license counting

2007-01-08 Thread Zoa


Yes

Zoa

Michel wrote:

Hello,

How many licenses to buy?? :

From what we understood from digium website,  we must buy as many  
licenses as the number of maximum simultaneous calls using G729 Codec 
we wish to make.


For example, If we want to be able to make  a maximum of 10 
simultaneous calls using G729 Codec, we must buy 10 licenses.


Is it right?


Thanks you
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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 10:51:03AM -0500, Al Bochter wrote:

 What about the free open source G729

There's no such thing ... g.729 (as per the ITU specification) is patent
encumbered. Anyone USING the codec has to pay a license to the patent
holders.

Digium have negotiated a bulk-buying agreement and can sub-license (or
relicense - however they've worded their agreement) the codec to end
users.

The same is true for several other codecs like AMR etc. even though
there are open source implementations of them.

MP3 is also patent encumbered, but since so many people were using it
they changed the licensing so that freeware players could continue
giving away the implementation. Any commercial software (or hardware)
has to pay license fees (for encoding or decoding).


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Re: [asterisk-users] Problems with park

2007-01-08 Thread Scott Walde

Scott Walde wrote:



I have even caused Asterisk to crash a couple of times.  I'm beginning 
to wonder if I'm hitting a bug in 1.4.  I've noticed a few other 
people have got the notify answer... message.  I'm going to try 
downgrading to 1.2.14 to see if it works there.

In the meantime, and additional wisdom would still be appreciated.



Well, it works in 1.2.14.  I guess I'll have to decide how badly I want 
MWI lights.


ttyl
srw

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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Jerry

 What about the free open source G729

 There's no such thing ... g.729 (as per the ITU specification) is patent
 encumbered. Anyone USING the codec has to pay a license to the patent
 holders.

I believe (this may have changed) that ANY patented technology can be used
for free educationally. The idea is that people can study and play with
the technology for no charge. I'm not sure if this means that a University
can use this in their phone system without paying the patent fees, though.

Now, certainly there can be open source versions of the G.729 codec.
They can even be free in the sense that the author is not charging. But
the author can't waive the patent rights.

Intel has a freely downloadable codec for educational use, but they have a
long legalese document which explains the patent obligations.

If you are using G.729 commercially, there is no question you have a legal
obligation to pay the patent holder for his rights.

J
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RE: [asterisk-users] answer machine detection

2007-01-08 Thread Michael Collins
 One thing that is really confusing me at this point: if I want to
leave
 an automated answer machine message, and amd tells me it's a machine,
 how do I know when to start leaving the message ? Some intros are
long
 (thanks for calling, me and mine are not here right now, please leave
a
 message after the beep) and some are short Leave a message.
 
 Is there a way of waiting in the dialplan for a beep or something like
 that ?

Excellent question.  I've been experimenting with the 'WaitForSilence'
app.  I've not tried to detect a beep since answering machines and
voicemail systems will not be uniform in their beep sounds.

I've used this with reasonably good success:
[lmtc]
; if detect ans machine, come here and leave a msg to call back
exten = s,1,Answer
exten = s,n,Wait(5)
exten = s,n,WaitForSilence(1000,2)
exten = s,n,Playback(Not-right-party-live-Eng)
exten = s,n,Wait(.3)
exten = s,n,SayDigits(${dnum}) ; Supplied by Originate action
exten = s,n,Wait(1)
exten = s,n,Playback(Not-right-party-live-Eng)
exten = s,n,Wait(.3)
exten = s,n,SayDigits(${dnum}) ; Supplied by Originate action
exten = s,n,Wait(1)
exten = s,n,AppendCDRUserField(${cdrdelim}Y)
exten = s,n,Hangup

As soon as I detect AMD, I goto lmtc,s,1.  I wait 5 seconds, then do
wait for silence.  I've experimented with various settings, and I
settled on wait for two occurrences of 1000ms of silence.  This is a
reasonable balance between having a two second pause at the very
beginning of the message that I leave and accidentally starting my
message playback too early because of silence detected during the target
machine's outbound message.  Sometimes you have a message like, High
this is so-and-so. pause Please leave me a message.  That pause can
sometimes trip up your WaitForSilence app if you don't wait long enough
for silence.

In my case, I'm leaving a message that says, Please call us at phone
number and provide reference number dnum.  I repeat the message just
in case I started playing it too soon the first time.  Thus far I've had
pretty good success.  YMMV, so tinker with the WaitForSilence settings.
If you're okay with a two second pause at the beginning of the message
that you leave on the target answering machine then these settings will
probably work for you.

Let us know how it goes.

-MC
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RE: [asterisk-users] G729 license counting

2007-01-08 Thread Douglas Garstang
That's not correct. You need one G729 license for each transcoding instance. If 
you have two SIP channels and both are G729, then no license is required. If 
you have two SIP channels, and one is G729 and the other is ulaw, then a 
license is required.

Doug.

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 From: Zoa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:09 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license counting
 
 
 
 Yes
 
 Zoa
 
 Michel wrote:
  Hello,
 
  How many licenses to buy?? :
 
  From what we understood from digium website,  we must buy as many  
  licenses as the number of maximum simultaneous calls using 
 G729 Codec 
  we wish to make.
 
  For example, If we want to be able to make  a maximum of 10 
  simultaneous calls using G729 Codec, we must buy 10 licenses.
 
  Is it right?
 
 
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[asterisk-users] Strange error

2007-01-08 Thread Il Neofita

Someone know why my asterisk gives me the following msgs?
Thank you

- Got SIP response 603 Declined (no dialog) back from
X.X.X.Xhttp://82.51.224.34/
   -- Got SIP response 603 Declined (no dialog) back from
X.X.X.Yhttp://82.51.224.34/http://82.104.4.192/http://82.104.4.192/
   -- Got SIP response 603 Declined (no dialog) back from
X.X.X.Zhttp://82.51.224.34/http://82.51.224.34/
   -- Got SIP response 603 Declined (no dialog) back from
X.X.X.Xhttp://82.51.224.34/http://82.104.4.192/
   -- Got SIP response 603 Declined (no dialog) back from
X.X.X.Xhttp://82.51.224.34/http://82.51.224.34/
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[asterisk-users] OT:spa942 provisioning

2007-01-08 Thread Benko
Hello!

Sorry for the OT-thread, but i don't know where else too ask...
Has anyone done http-provisioning of a Linksys SPA942 with client side
ssl-authentication? Where do i get the CA from?
I'm aware of the Sipura mass deployment howto on voip-info.org, but it
doesn't cover the authentification part. 

Thanks
Christian
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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Paul
First point to tackle in any case involving patent, copyright or
trademark infringement is whether or not the infringing party would have
been qualified to buy any usage rights at all. In a case where you
license the Intel source(read the terms, it's not really that free),
you would be applying for a license under some plan that includes
certain minimum payments. Even if you wrote new source from scratch you
would be in the same boat. Last time I looked at the plans, I didn't see
anything with low minimums. So even if you wrote code from scratch and
never used it on more than 6 channels, you might have done something
that normally requires a large upfront payment. Use $10k as an example.

In such a case owner of the patent might have an attorney initiate
contact. If you are willing to communicate they might allow you to pay
the minimum and be licensed. If you can't do that, they might offer a
settlement where you stop using the codec and pay them some lesser amount.

If the patent holder can easily prove the violation you might as well
try to deal with them and get things settled fast. If you sell or give
away the codec it is easier for them to dig up proof. If you have
unhappy employees that might be the way they hear about the violation in
the first place.

Important consideration: Bankruptcy law generally excludes debts created
by things like malicious or criminal acts.

Matthew Rubenstein wrote:

   As far as I know, the g729 patent requires buying a license to operate
any implementation of it, whether Digium's, Intel's, or any other.
Digium is set up to collect royalties (perhaps at a favorable rate) as
part of their license from the patent holder. I don't know about Intel
or any other. Or what the mechanics are for enforcing the patent on
someone who operates a codec without a license.


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 10:51 -0500, Al Bochter wrote:
  

What about the free open source G729

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email



Matthew Rubenstein wrote:



 I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to connect with
a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk server
originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I pre-encode those
stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded for each call? If
so, do I need a g729 license for each call, or just a license for the
preencoder? If the robocalls accept incoming DTMF, do I need g729
licenses for those calls?


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

  

Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
   asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Xue Liangliang wrote:
   



Hi, all

I am a pabx vendor from Singapore. Recently we are going to
 

  

implement 
   



a failover solution for our customers using heartbeat, the asterisk 
server can failover perfectly, however the g729 codec canot work, 
because it is binded the mac address, we have bought two set of 
licenses, can you provide us some workaround for this scenario?
 

  

It shouldn't be a problem if you're only doing IP takeover and have 
bound the licenses to each server separately.  If you're sharing the 
storage, then that could pose a problem.

Leo
DatVoiz Singapore Pte Ltd 
   




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[asterisk-users] Looking for toll free in Italy

2007-01-08 Thread CM Rahman


Hi,
   
  I am looking for tollfree number in italy. Anybody providing that? Charge per 
minute? It will connect to my asterisk pbx box.
   
  Thanks
   
  CM

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RE: [asterisk-users] Re: [Announce] Web-MeetMe 3.0.0 released

2007-01-08 Thread Dan Austin
Buki wrote:
 Sorry I forgot to change the subject line in my last posting!

 I have been using the Web Meet-Me 2.1.0 on Asterisk 1.2.12.1 
 for many months now and I am a big fan and I have been very 
 happy with it. 
I'm glad it's working well for you, positive feedback is always
welcome.

 I want to try the v3.0.0 but I would like to know if there are
 specific steps I need to carry out to upgrade to the v3.0.0 on
 my current Asterisk 1.2.X?
There are a couple answers here.  First is that version 3.0.0
is NOT compatible with Asterisk 1.2.X, so there is no way
to test or use it in your installation.  There is a plan to
release version 2.2.0 soon that has the features and bug fixes
from version 3.0.0 that do not have a dependancy on Asterisk's
version.

The second answer is about the upgrade it self.  Since the package
is mostly php pages, there is not an 'upgrade'.  Just rename the
directory where Web-MeetMe is installed and extract the latest package.
With the 3.0.0 and 2.2.0 releases we have further seperated the
configuration settings from the actual code, so future upgrades
should be able to re-use the ./lib/defines.php.  With the 3.0.0 and
2.2.0 release it will be easiest to just edit the new defines.php
to match your settings.  Lastly you may need to add a couple columns
to your database to take advantage of the improved recurring conference
support.  Refer to the sample tables in the ./cbmysql directory for
details.

Dan


current document root and extract the package to
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[asterisk-users] MixMonitor write issue

2007-01-08 Thread Jay Moore

Greetings,

I am using MixMonitor to record my outgoing calls.  It seems that 
MixMonitor will not write to a directory if it doesn't exist (ie - it 
doesn't create a new directory if needed).


I have checked to ensure permissions are properly set, and if I manually 
create the directory, MixMonitor behaves normally.


Rather than send several 'mkdir' commands each time I want to record a 
file, I was hoping someone knew an easier way to do this.  It strikes me 
odd that directories are created when I record queue calls with 
'monitor-join = yes', but can't do the same for outgoing calls.


Any help would be much appreciated.

Regards,
Jay
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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Paul
Jerry wrote:

What about the free open source G729
  

There's no such thing ... g.729 (as per the ITU specification) is patent
encumbered. Anyone USING the codec has to pay a license to the patent
holders.



I believe (this may have changed) that ANY patented technology can be used
for free educationally. The idea is that people can study and play with
the technology for no charge. I'm not sure if this means that a University
can use this in their phone system without paying the patent fees, though.

Now, certainly there can be open source versions of the G.729 codec.
They can even be free in the sense that the author is not charging. But
the author can't waive the patent rights.

Intel has a freely downloadable codec for educational use, but they have a
long legalese document which explains the patent obligations.

If you are using G.729 commercially, there is no question you have a legal
obligation to pay the patent holder for his rights.
  

Whether it's a university or a megacorporation studying the technology,
they have to be very careful.

Suppose we are working on automotive fuel economy or emissions
improvement. If we buy a new or used car we are reasonably sure that a
multitude of patents involved are being legally used. If we build a
cadillac clone for the research, I would be worried.

Another factor to consider in some cases is when we sign a sales
contract that includes things like no reverse engineering. It might be
hard to prove that we did not reverse engineer the product in order to
develop a patentable improvement.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Al Bochter

Mike,

So tell me what this FREE open source G729 is

I am told that you can use these Codecs with your Asterisk !

http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/ipp-codecs-g729-g723.1/

You can do it Freely !!

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email



Mike wrote:


Al Bochter wrote:

What about the free open source G729 



To use a g729 codec you must pay a license fee to the patent holder. 
It is immaterial as to whether the implementation is open/closed source.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 02:53:39PM -0500, Al Bochter wrote:

So tell me what this FREE open source G729 is
I am told that you can use these Codecs with your Asterisk !
[1]http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/ipp-codecs-g729-g723.1/
You can do it Freely !!

No, Ready Technology have packaged the codecs based on Intel's IPP code.
The codecs link against Intel's IPP libraries. The code here is a diff
and other material to compile the codecs once you've downloaded the IPP
libraries. It will then produce a binary.

To download Intel's libraries you need to agree to their licensing
terms.

To utilise the codecs you still need to pay a royalty fee to Sipro (as
is clearly stated on the site).

There are some pre-built binaries held on servers were the patents don't
apply, however utilising those binaries on a system in a country where
they do apply means you have to pay royalties.

If you look it's the patches which are distributed under GPL, not the
actual code itself.

Steve

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Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license counting

2007-01-08 Thread Al Bochter

You need a license when ever you transcode the audio

From any codec to G729. or G729 to any codec
you will need a license for each instance.

If you call into your system from a provider that uses G729 you don't 
need a license
If you check your voicemail that is saved on your system in GSM format 
then you need a license to transcode the file from GSM to G729


Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email



Douglas Garstang wrote:


That's not correct. You need one G729 license for each transcoding instance. If 
you have two SIP channels and both are G729, then no license is required. If 
you have two SIP channels, and one is G729 and the other is ulaw, then a 
license is required.

Doug.

 


-Original Message-
From: Zoa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:09 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license counting



Yes

Zoa

Michel wrote:
   


Hello,

How many licenses to buy?? :

From what we understood from digium website,  we must buy as many  
licenses as the number of maximum simultaneous calls using 
 

G729 Codec 
   


we wish to make.

For example, If we want to be able to make  a maximum of 10 
simultaneous calls using G729 Codec, we must buy 10 licenses.


Is it right?


Thanks you
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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Bill Hackensack

On 1/8/07, Al Bochter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Mike,

So tell me what this FREE open source G729 is

I am told that you can use these Codecs with your Asterisk !

http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/ipp-codecs-g729-g723.1/

You can do it Freely !!



Al, I don't know if you're stupid, or you just like stirring things up.
Once again, READ!  Read the entire article before posting it.

To quote:

To use G.729 or G.723.1 you may need to pay a royalty fee. Please see
http://www.sipro.com for details. Please note that this code is available
for you to download for education purposes only and if a patent exists in
your country for G.729 or G.723.1 then you should contact the owner of that
patent and request their permission before executing the code.

Now, Al, what does that say? I don't know what country you live in (and
don't care), but if you live in a country (or possibly do business with a
country) that honors patents, then you will have to pay to license this
codec.
Just because I _can_ break the law, does not mean that I should, or that I
have the right to, or that it's ok to do so.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Matthew Crocker
Performance/Price wise which implementation of the codec is better?   
Digium or the Ready Tech/Intel IPP code?


I'm looking at building a 4 PRI g.729 Asterisk box (Dell 2 x dual  
core, Digium 4 T1 + echo canceller).  Which codec would provide the  
best audio quality?



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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Mike

Al Bochter wrote:

Mike,

So tell me what this FREE open source G729 is

I am told that you can use these Codecs with your Asterisk !

http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/ipp-codecs-g729-g723.1/

You can do it Freely !!


Please read the entire page. From the link you sent:


   Why NOT G.729?

There are some reasons you might /not/ want or need to use G.729.

   * You don't want to pay the license fees or use the codec without
 the permission of the patent holder.




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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Matthew Crocker wrote:
 I'm looking at building a 4 PRI g.729 Asterisk box (Dell 2 x dual core,
 Digium 4 T1 + echo canceller).  Which codec would provide the best audio
 quality?

G.729 is G.729 (assuming same suffixes like B, C, etc.). Audio quality
is exactly the same, or the implementations aren't compatible.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Al Bochter

Mike

I understand that.

but it states on there site and note the key words may need
What I want to know is if you buy 10 licenses from digum can use the 
Open Souce code?

As long as you don't transcode than 10 at a time. Is that legal?

I see the note about the IPP license

From what I have been told this is easier to get working than Digum's G729


   Legal Stuff - Important, please read

To use G.729 or G.723.1 _*you may need to pay a royalty fee.*_ Please 
see http://www.sipro.com for details. Please note that this code is 
available for you to download for education purposes only and if a 
patent exists in your country for G.729 or G.723.1 then you should 
contact the owner of that patent and request their permission before 
executing the code.


To distribute Intel's IPP libraries with a commercial product, you may 
need to pay a once-off license fee to Intel (currently $US180).


My patches to Intel's code are distributed free under the GPL. Most of 
the code is just Intel's sample code re-arranged a little bit to work 
the way Asterisk expects. Therefore, this work would not have been 
possible without Intel doing 99.9% of the work.



Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email



Mike wrote:


Al Bochter wrote:


Mike,

So tell me what this FREE open source G729 is

I am told that you can use these Codecs with your Asterisk !

http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/ipp-codecs-g729-g723.1/

You can do it Freely !!



Please read the entire page. From the link you sent:


   Why NOT G.729?

There are some reasons you might /not/ want or need to use G.729.

   * You don't want to pay the license fees or use the codec without
 the permission of the patent holder.




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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk from Debian Packages

2007-01-08 Thread Andreas v. Heydwolff

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 12:11:34AM +0100, Andreas von Heydwolff wrote:
I'm using 1.2.13~dfsg-2 from Debian unstable in a small SOHO 
environment, it's doing its job.


However, the startup scripts seem to hose something and it's running but 
not working with /etc/init.d/asterisk start, but running it from 
commandline solved the problem. Asterisk has been up for a couple weeks 
again. Hadn't the time to look into that yet, perhaps a problem with old 
config files from previous versions.



Please report bugs (reportbug asterisk) . Others may have the same
problem as you.



Have you modified /etc/init.d/asterisk ?



What do you have in /etc/default/asterisk?



Hi again. Sorry, was just too busy in th meantime.

It's all working just as it should, must have been a temporary glitch.

1.2.13~dfsg-2 is doing fine on a sarge/etch mix with debian kernel 2.6.18-8.

Had to install the self compiled zaptel modules with

 # dpkg -i --force-overwrite

though as some config file is shared with the kernel's.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Paul
Sorry again Al but you are way off on this one also.

sipro licenses digium who licenses end users for the digium product they
are buying. It's like saying if I buy an ATA with 2 g.729 licenses can I
throw it away and use the licenses with my open source codec? No way!

Al Bochter wrote:

 Mike

 I understand that.

 but it states on there site and note the key words may need
 What I want to know is if you buy 10 licenses from digum can use the
 Open Souce code?
 As long as you don't transcode than 10 at a time. Is that legal?

 I see the note about the IPP license

 From what I have been told this is easier to get working than Digum's
 G729


 Legal Stuff - Important, please read

 To use G.729 or G.723.1 _*you may need to pay a royalty fee.*_ Please
 see http://www.sipro.com for details. Please note that this code is
 available for you to download for education purposes only and if a
 patent exists in your country for G.729 or G.723.1 then you should
 contact the owner of that patent and request their permission before
 executing the code.

 To distribute Intel's IPP libraries with a commercial product, you may
 need to pay a once-off license fee to Intel (currently $US180).

 My patches to Intel's code are distributed free under the GPL. Most of
 the code is just Intel's sample code re-arranged a little bit to work
 the way Asterisk expects. Therefore, this work would not have been
 possible without Intel doing 99.9% of the work.


Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email



 Mike wrote:

 Al Bochter wrote:

 Mike,

 So tell me what this FREE open source G729 is

 I am told that you can use these Codecs with your Asterisk !

 http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/ipp-codecs-g729-g723.1/

 You can do it Freely !!


 Please read the entire page. From the link you sent:


Why NOT G.729?

 There are some reasons you might /not/ want or need to use G.729.

* You don't want to pay the license fees or use the codec without
  the permission of the patent holder.




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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Mike

Al Bochter wrote:

Mike

I understand that.

but it states on there site and note the key words may need
What I want to know is if you buy 10 licenses from digum can use the 
Open Souce code?
That is not what you said or asked. You were asserting that a free as 
in beer solution existed. If something says may it is incumbent upon 
you to decide if the rules/requirements in question are applicable to 
you, nobody else knows your situation.
To answer your new question, as I am not an expert in patent law I 
haven't a clue.


I see the note about the IPP license

From what I have been told this is easier to get working than Digum's 
G729


I use Digium's codec and found it very easy to install.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Matthew Rubenstein
All of which hassle and expense can be avoided by buying a license for
Digium's codec, which is tested to work well with Asterisk (and might
come with some support). And is pretty cheap per simul call.

I wonder whether that per call means per codec instance, which
could be multiple licenses on a single conference call, where multiple
(even if not all) parties are getting de/encoded simultaneously. And
whether there are other tools for editing (/mixing/transforming) g729
data, in realtime (streams) or not (files), and whether they require a
license. Ideally sox or equivalent would work on g729, maybe with a
codec plugin.


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 13:23 -0500, Paul wrote:
 First point to tackle in any case involving patent, copyright or
 trademark infringement is whether or not the infringing party would have
 been qualified to buy any usage rights at all. In a case where you
 license the Intel source(read the terms, it's not really that free),
 you would be applying for a license under some plan that includes
 certain minimum payments. Even if you wrote new source from scratch you
 would be in the same boat. Last time I looked at the plans, I didn't see
 anything with low minimums. So even if you wrote code from scratch and
 never used it on more than 6 channels, you might have done something
 that normally requires a large upfront payment. Use $10k as an example.
 
 In such a case owner of the patent might have an attorney initiate
 contact. If you are willing to communicate they might allow you to pay
 the minimum and be licensed. If you can't do that, they might offer a
 settlement where you stop using the codec and pay them some lesser amount.
 
 If the patent holder can easily prove the violation you might as well
 try to deal with them and get things settled fast. If you sell or give
 away the codec it is easier for them to dig up proof. If you have
 unhappy employees that might be the way they hear about the violation in
 the first place.
 
 Important consideration: Bankruptcy law generally excludes debts created
 by things like malicious or criminal acts.
 
 Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
 
  As far as I know, the g729 patent requires buying a license to operate
 any implementation of it, whether Digium's, Intel's, or any other.
 Digium is set up to collect royalties (perhaps at a favorable rate) as
 part of their license from the patent holder. I don't know about Intel
 or any other. Or what the mechanics are for enforcing the patent on
 someone who operates a codec without a license.
 
 
 On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 10:51 -0500, Al Bochter wrote:
   
 
 What about the free open source G729
 
 Best regards,
 
 Al Bochter
 Bochter Services
 http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
 
 
 
 Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
 
 
 
I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to connect with
 a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk server
 originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I pre-encode those
 stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded for each call? If
 so, do I need a g729 license for each call, or just a license for the
 preencoder? If the robocalls accept incoming DTMF, do I need g729
 licenses for those calls?
 
 
 On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 
   
 
 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
 From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
 Xue Liangliang wrote:

 
 
 
 Hi, all
 
 I am a pabx vendor from Singapore. Recently we are going to
  
 
   
 
 implement 

 
 
 
 a failover solution for our customers using heartbeat, the asterisk 
 server can failover perfectly, however the g729 codec canot work, 
 because it is binded the mac address, we have bought two set of 
 licenses, can you provide us some workaround for this scenario?
  
 
   
 
 It shouldn't be a problem if you're only doing IP takeover and have 
 bound the licenses to each server separately.  If you're sharing the 
 storage, then that could pose a problem.
 
 Leo
 DatVoiz Singapore Pte Ltd 

 
 
 
 
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RE: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Darryl Dunkin
per call means per terminating channel where encoding/decoding is
required. Termination could be to translate to another codec (with
another peer) or to Asterisk itself to handle menus, voicemail,
conference calls.

In the conference call setup, each caller uses a license.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew
Rubenstein
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:56
To: Paul
Cc: Asterisk-Users
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

All of which hassle and expense can be avoided by buying a
license for
Digium's codec, which is tested to work well with Asterisk (and might
come with some support). And is pretty cheap per simul call.

I wonder whether that per call means per codec instance,
which
could be multiple licenses on a single conference call, where multiple
(even if not all) parties are getting de/encoded simultaneously. And
whether there are other tools for editing (/mixing/transforming) g729
data, in realtime (streams) or not (files), and whether they require a
license. Ideally sox or equivalent would work on g729, maybe with a
codec plugin.


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 13:23 -0500, Paul wrote:
 First point to tackle in any case involving patent, copyright or
 trademark infringement is whether or not the infringing party would
have
 been qualified to buy any usage rights at all. In a case where you
 license the Intel source(read the terms, it's not really that free),
 you would be applying for a license under some plan that includes
 certain minimum payments. Even if you wrote new source from scratch
you
 would be in the same boat. Last time I looked at the plans, I didn't
see
 anything with low minimums. So even if you wrote code from scratch and
 never used it on more than 6 channels, you might have done something
 that normally requires a large upfront payment. Use $10k as an
example.
 
 In such a case owner of the patent might have an attorney initiate
 contact. If you are willing to communicate they might allow you to pay
 the minimum and be licensed. If you can't do that, they might offer a
 settlement where you stop using the codec and pay them some lesser
amount.
 
 If the patent holder can easily prove the violation you might as well
 try to deal with them and get things settled fast. If you sell or give
 away the codec it is easier for them to dig up proof. If you have
 unhappy employees that might be the way they hear about the violation
in
 the first place.
 
 Important consideration: Bankruptcy law generally excludes debts
created
 by things like malicious or criminal acts.
 
 Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
 
  As far as I know, the g729 patent requires buying a license to
operate
 any implementation of it, whether Digium's, Intel's, or any other.
 Digium is set up to collect royalties (perhaps at a favorable rate)
as
 part of their license from the patent holder. I don't know about
Intel
 or any other. Or what the mechanics are for enforcing the patent on
 someone who operates a codec without a license.
 
 
 On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 10:51 -0500, Al Bochter wrote:
   
 
 What about the free open source G729
 
 Best regards,
 
 Al Bochter
 Bochter Services
 http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
 
 
 
 Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
 
 
 
I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to
connect with
 a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk server
 originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I pre-encode
those
 stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded for each
call? If
 so, do I need a g729 license for each call, or just a license for
the
 preencoder? If the robocalls accept incoming DTMF, do I need g729
 licenses for those calls?
 
 
 On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 
   
 
 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
 From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
 Xue Liangliang wrote:

 
 
 
 Hi, all
 
 I am a pabx vendor from Singapore. Recently we are going to
  
 
   
 
 implement 

 
 
 
 a failover solution for our customers using heartbeat, the
asterisk 
 server can failover perfectly, however the g729 codec canot work,

 because it is binded the mac address, we have bought two set of 
 licenses, can you provide us some workaround for this scenario?
  
 
   
 
 It shouldn't be a problem if you're only doing IP takeover and
have 
 bound the licenses to each server separately.  If you're sharing
the 
 storage, then that could pose a problem.
 
 Leo
 DatVoiz Singapore Pte Ltd 

 
 
 
 
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[asterisk-users] delete=yes is not working

2007-01-08 Thread Mark Greene

Hey guys. This is the setup that I have for a voicemail account.

1509 = 1509,Mark Greene,[EMAIL PROTECTED],attach=yes|delete=yes

It emails me the voicemail, but it does not delete it from the system
afterwards. I have also tried

1509 = 1509,Mark Greene,[EMAIL PROTECTED],attach=yes|delete=1

Any ideas on this?

- Mark
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[asterisk-users] snom 190 (etc.?) dialscript for * debugging and kaddressbook

2007-01-08 Thread Andreas v. Heydwolff
Thought I might just as well share these scripts, they may work with 
other phones too:



*1)* Dialing from the KDE 3.5.5 address book works with a script that 
gets triggered from the kaddressbook (Settings - Script Hooks - Phone) 
with my command


 snom_dial_number %N

The script snom_dial_number itself goes like this:
-
#!/bin/sh
ENCODEDNUMBER=$(echo $@ | sed 's/\+/00/g' | sed 's/\///g' | sed \
's/-//g' | sed 's/\#/\%23/g' |sed 's/ //g' | sed 's/0043/0/g')

konqueror -geometry 700x30+350-810 \
http://172.16.0.2/command.htm?DIAL=$ENCODEDNUMBERDIAL
#EOF

Substitute 172.16.0.2 with your phone's IP number and 0043 with your 
country code. The format of numbers in my address book is +CC AC NUMBER 
which works also for exporting via gnokii to my Nokia mobile. The script 
handles the empty spaces and eventual hyphens.


(BTW, for SMS sending via bluetooth I added to the script hooks
cat %F | gnokii --sendsms %N)


*2)* When working on the dialplan on the office asterisk server via ssh 
from home I needed to test outgoing calls - but nobody was physically 
there. What to do?


Being logged in on a shell on my remote asterisk machine I used the 
following script to trigger outgoing calls from an office snom 190 phone 
to my phone beside me on the desk. A timeout of 3 secs for POTS or 15 
secs for my mobile guaranteed that no voicebox would take over but I 
heard a short ring when calls got through, to add a real life ringtone 
to remote visual feedback from asterisk -rv.


httpsnom-dialtest
-
#!/bin/bash
# Created 070107 by AvH

# $1 is the extension to dial
if [ $1 =  ]
  then echo enter number please ; exit
fi

# command for snom 190 phone, taken from
# http://80.237.155.31/kb/index.php?View=entryCategoryID=21EntryID=40

SOURCE=command.htm?number=$1

# origin
EXT=2 # IP number of phone
echo Dialing from $EXT

# the actual command, -w is a timeout
echo -e GET $SOURCE HTTP/1.0\n\n | nc -w 1 $EXT 80 /dev/null
#EOF


I guess the second script can be put into use for KDE as well.

Any ideas for improvements?

Cheers,

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Re: [asterisk-users] delete=yes is not working

2007-01-08 Thread Michiel van Baak
On 15:17, Mon 08 Jan 07, Mark Greene wrote:
 Hey guys. This is the setup that I have for a voicemail account.
 
 1509 = 1509,Mark Greene,[EMAIL PROTECTED],attach=yes|delete=yes

try this:
1509 = 1509,Mark Greene,[EMAIL PROTECTED],,attach=yes|delete=yes

You forgot about the pager field.

 
 It emails me the voicemail, but it does not delete it from the system
 afterwards. I have also tried
 
 1509 = 1509,Mark Greene,[EMAIL PROTECTED],attach=yes|delete=1
 
 Any ideas on this?

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[asterisk-users] SIP rt load from db

2007-01-08 Thread Tim Connolly
Anyone know the command that tells * to load a sipfriend
from the realtime db rather than saying no such host? I've tried various
combinations of the rt commands:

rtcachefriends=yes; 

;rtcache=yes

;rtAutoClear=yes

;rtautoreg=yes

;rtIgnoreRegExpire=yes

;rtupdate=yes

rtfromcontact=yes

 

Basically I have a group of 4 * servers all routing calls, but only two
are hearing the phones registration. I'd like the other two to load the
sipfriends entry from mysql when a channel for that sipfriends is
requested. 

 

Any ideas?

 

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Re: [asterisk-users] delete=yes is not working

2007-01-08 Thread Mark Greene

I have googled and I do not understand how the pager field is what is
causing the problem.

Could you explain?
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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Matthew Crocker


G.729 is G.729 (assuming same suffixes like B, C, etc.). Audio quality
is exactly the same, or the implementations aren't compatible.


Yes, but depending on the implementation the CPU resources between  
two could be quite different.  Audio quality could be adversely  
affected by inadequate CPU resources with a bad implementation.


So, in other words,  which asterisk g.729 is better on CPU  
utilization Digium or Ready Tech/Intel IPP?  Digium certainly knows  
Asterisk but  I'm sure Intel knows their CPUs pretty well too


-Matt


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Re: [asterisk-users] delete=yes is not working

2007-01-08 Thread Michiel van Baak
On 15:51, Mon 08 Jan 07, Mark Greene wrote:
 I have googled and I do not understand how the pager field is what is
 causing the problem.
 
 Could you explain?

If you dont provide it the parser will think the pager
address is 'delete=yes|attach=yes'

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Re: [asterisk-users] delete=yes is not working

2007-01-08 Thread Mike

Mark Greene wrote:
I have googled and I do not understand how the pager field is what is 
causing the problem.


Could you explain?


Think of it as a CSV file. The ,, entry for pager is just a placeholder 
saying that for pager there is nothing. Omitting means that the next 
field will be treated as pager info, rather then for whatever it is 
actually intended.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Al Bochter

Mike

What I was looking to do is use the easier to install one and the better 
one.


I was asked by a customer about using G729 and I told the customer that 
they would have to pay for the G729
licenses. The customer pointed out the open source G729 code and I was 
not sure if I could use that.


Then I was told by others that work on Asterisk that the open G729 was a 
cracked ver of Digum G729

and don't use it without buying the Digum licenses.

So that is what I am tring to found out. And Paul did point that out 
that the open G729 and Digums code is not the same.


I don't have Open G729 or Digum G729 installed in the Asterisk server.

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email



Mike wrote:


Al Bochter wrote:


Mike

I understand that.

but it states on there site and note the key words may need
What I want to know is if you buy 10 licenses from digum can use the 
Open Souce code?


That is not what you said or asked. You were asserting that a free as 
in beer solution existed. If something says may it is incumbent 
upon you to decide if the rules/requirements in question are 
applicable to you, nobody else knows your situation.
To answer your new question, as I am not an expert in patent law I 
haven't a clue.




I see the note about the IPP license

From what I have been told this is easier to get working than 
Digum's G729



I use Digium's codec and found it very easy to install.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Al Bochter

Matthew

I agree. I only know what I have told by others so I do need this input

I have been told that Digum G729 is a big pain the the butt to get 
working with Asterisk

and it is very hard on the CPU

Keep in mind I have never used any Ver. of G 729

So tell me what you think.

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email



Matthew Rubenstein wrote:


All of which hassle and expense can be avoided by buying a license for
Digium's codec, which is tested to work well with Asterisk (and might
come with some support). And is pretty cheap per simul call.

I wonder whether that per call means per codec instance, which
could be multiple licenses on a single conference call, where multiple
(even if not all) parties are getting de/encoded simultaneously. And
whether there are other tools for editing (/mixing/transforming) g729
data, in realtime (streams) or not (files), and whether they require a
license. Ideally sox or equivalent would work on g729, maybe with a
codec plugin.


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 13:23 -0500, Paul wrote:
 


First point to tackle in any case involving patent, copyright or
trademark infringement is whether or not the infringing party would have
been qualified to buy any usage rights at all. In a case where you
license the Intel source(read the terms, it's not really that free),
you would be applying for a license under some plan that includes
certain minimum payments. Even if you wrote new source from scratch you
would be in the same boat. Last time I looked at the plans, I didn't see
anything with low minimums. So even if you wrote code from scratch and
never used it on more than 6 channels, you might have done something
that normally requires a large upfront payment. Use $10k as an example.

In such a case owner of the patent might have an attorney initiate
contact. If you are willing to communicate they might allow you to pay
the minimum and be licensed. If you can't do that, they might offer a
settlement where you stop using the codec and pay them some lesser amount.

If the patent holder can easily prove the violation you might as well
try to deal with them and get things settled fast. If you sell or give
away the codec it is easier for them to dig up proof. If you have
unhappy employees that might be the way they hear about the violation in
the first place.

Important consideration: Bankruptcy law generally excludes debts created
by things like malicious or criminal acts.

Matthew Rubenstein wrote:

   


As far as I know, the g729 patent requires buying a license to operate
any implementation of it, whether Digium's, Intel's, or any other.
Digium is set up to collect royalties (perhaps at a favorable rate) as
part of their license from the patent holder. I don't know about Intel
or any other. Or what the mechanics are for enforcing the patent on
someone who operates a codec without a license.


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 10:51 -0500, Al Bochter wrote:


 


What about the free open source G729

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email



Matthew Rubenstein wrote:

  

   


I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to connect with
a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk server
originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I pre-encode those
stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded for each call? If
so, do I need a g729 license for each call, or just a license for the
preencoder? If the robocalls accept incoming DTMF, do I need g729
licenses for those calls?


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 


Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Xue Liangliang wrote:
 

  

   


Hi, all

I am a pabx vendor from Singapore. Recently we are going to
   



 

implement 
 

  

   

a failover solution for our customers using heartbeat, the asterisk 
server can failover perfectly, however the g729 codec canot work, 
because it is binded the mac address, we have bought two set of 
licenses, can you provide us some workaround for this scenario?
   



 

It shouldn't be a problem if you're only doing IP takeover and have 
bound the licenses to each server separately.  If you're sharing the 
storage, then that could pose a problem.


Leo
DatVoiz Singapore Pte Ltd 
 

  

   


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Re: [asterisk-users] Block some number outgoing from joust oneextention

2007-01-08 Thread Marco Mouta

post here your extensions.conf

On 1/8/07, Mattias Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi!
Unfortunately did this stop Asterisk to register ny phones and trunk.
Did I put tit in the wrong place?
//Mattias

Hi!
Exactly what I needed.
It was the 209 part that I did not figure put.
Thanks!
//Mattias


At 03:53 2007-01-05, you wrote:
exten = _9070X./209,1,NoOP,SORRY CHARLIE
exten = _9070X./209,2,Congestion
This would block any call from 209 to 070X as
long as 9 was your outside digit.

I use the NoOP to help me out with the CLI and debugging :)

Hope this helps

Mark


-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Mattias Andersson
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:12 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Block some number
outgoing from joust oneextention

Thanks!
I can´t rely figure out how to block for only one extension.
Eg. Extension 209 need to be blocked from making
calls starting with 070  (eg. 9070).
Some clues did I get bout would it men a new form-internal-blocked
dialplan?
Regards
Mattias


On 04/01/07, C F mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The easiest way is thru using contexts.
On 1/3/07, Mattias Andersson
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all!
  I am shore someone have writing about it bout I cant find it.
  I have a extension that I need to block from making expansive mobil
calls.
  Everyone else should be aloud to do the calls.
 
  I am shore it is possible to be done sens I had a
  commercial asterisk based PBX that I did that on.
  However I have switch to Trixbox because I need
  some custom functions not supported by the commercial product.
  I would appreciate all help.
  Regards
  Mattias
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  Adress:
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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Zoa


I did some tests a long time ago and the speed was roughly the same. ( I 
think digium's was slightly faster).

I think the IPP version also doesn't work on AMD out of the box.

It's just 10$ a channel, that's not even worth the hassle of trying 
something else.


Joachim

Al Bochter wrote:

Matthew

I agree. I only know what I have told by others so I do need this input

I have been told that Digum G729 is a big pain the the butt to get 
working with Asterisk

and it is very hard on the CPU

Keep in mind I have never used any Ver. of G 729

So tell me what you think.

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email



Matthew Rubenstein wrote:

All of which hassle and expense can be avoided by buying a 
license for

Digium's codec, which is tested to work well with Asterisk (and might
come with some support). And is pretty cheap per simul call.

I wonder whether that per call means per codec instance, which
could be multiple licenses on a single conference call, where multiple
(even if not all) parties are getting de/encoded simultaneously. And
whether there are other tools for editing (/mixing/transforming) g729
data, in realtime (streams) or not (files), and whether they require a
license. Ideally sox or equivalent would work on g729, maybe with a
codec plugin.


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 13:23 -0500, Paul wrote:
 


First point to tackle in any case involving patent, copyright or
trademark infringement is whether or not the infringing party would 
have

been qualified to buy any usage rights at all. In a case where you
license the Intel source(read the terms, it's not really that free),
you would be applying for a license under some plan that includes
certain minimum payments. Even if you wrote new source from scratch you
would be in the same boat. Last time I looked at the plans, I didn't 
see

anything with low minimums. So even if you wrote code from scratch and
never used it on more than 6 channels, you might have done something
that normally requires a large upfront payment. Use $10k as an example.

In such a case owner of the patent might have an attorney initiate
contact. If you are willing to communicate they might allow you to pay
the minimum and be licensed. If you can't do that, they might offer a
settlement where you stop using the codec and pay them some lesser 
amount.


If the patent holder can easily prove the violation you might as well
try to deal with them and get things settled fast. If you sell or give
away the codec it is easier for them to dig up proof. If you have
unhappy employees that might be the way they hear about the 
violation in

the first place.

Important consideration: Bankruptcy law generally excludes debts 
created

by things like malicious or criminal acts.

Matthew Rubenstein wrote:

  
As far as I know, the g729 patent requires buying a license to 
operate

any implementation of it, whether Digium's, Intel's, or any other.
Digium is set up to collect royalties (perhaps at a favorable rate) as
part of their license from the patent holder. I don't know about Intel
or any other. Or what the mechanics are for enforcing the patent on
someone who operates a codec without a license.


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 10:51 -0500, Al Bochter wrote:




What about the free open source G729

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email



Matthew Rubenstein wrote:

 
  
I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to 
connect with

a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk server
originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I pre-encode 
those
stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded for each 
call? If
so, do I need a g729 license for each call, or just a license for 
the

preencoder? If the robocalls accept incoming DTMF, do I need g729
licenses for those calls?


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   


Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Xue Liangliang wrote:
 

 
  

Hi, all

I am a pabx vendor from Singapore. Recently we are going to
  
   

implement  

 
  
a failover solution for our customers using heartbeat, the 
asterisk server can failover perfectly, however the g729 codec 
canot work, because it is binded the mac address, we have 
bought two set of licenses, can you provide us some workaround 
for this scenario?
  
   

It shouldn't be a problem if you're only doing IP takeover and 
have bound the licenses to each server separately.  If you're 
sharing the storage, then that could pose a problem.


Leo
DatVoiz Singapore Pte Ltd  

 
  


Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Matthew Rubenstein
Did you find any operations trouble installing/using the Digium codec
with Asterisk? I'd be surprised if Digium's were hard to use with
Asterisk, considering they wrote and support both. Also can their codec
be used to pre-encode data to files from a Linux command/line? Or just
the Asterisk CLI mentioned earlier in this thread?


On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 00:31 +0200, Zoa wrote:
 I did some tests a long time ago and the speed was roughly the same. ( I 
 think digium's was slightly faster).
 I think the IPP version also doesn't work on AMD out of the box.
 
 It's just 10$ a channel, that's not even worth the hassle of trying 
 something else.
 
 Joachim
 
 Al Bochter wrote:
  Matthew
 
  I agree. I only know what I have told by others so I do need this input
 
  I have been told that Digum G729 is a big pain the the butt to get 
  working with Asterisk
  and it is very hard on the CPU
 
  Keep in mind I have never used any Ver. of G 729
 
  So tell me what you think.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Al Bochter
  Bochter Services
  http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
 
 
 
  Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
 
  All of which hassle and expense can be avoided by buying a 
  license for
  Digium's codec, which is tested to work well with Asterisk (and might
  come with some support). And is pretty cheap per simul call.
 
  I wonder whether that per call means per codec instance, which
  could be multiple licenses on a single conference call, where multiple
  (even if not all) parties are getting de/encoded simultaneously. And
  whether there are other tools for editing (/mixing/transforming) g729
  data, in realtime (streams) or not (files), and whether they require a
  license. Ideally sox or equivalent would work on g729, maybe with a
  codec plugin.
 
 
  On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 13:23 -0500, Paul wrote:
   
 
  First point to tackle in any case involving patent, copyright or
  trademark infringement is whether or not the infringing party would 
  have
  been qualified to buy any usage rights at all. In a case where you
  license the Intel source(read the terms, it's not really that free),
  you would be applying for a license under some plan that includes
  certain minimum payments. Even if you wrote new source from scratch you
  would be in the same boat. Last time I looked at the plans, I didn't 
  see
  anything with low minimums. So even if you wrote code from scratch and
  never used it on more than 6 channels, you might have done something
  that normally requires a large upfront payment. Use $10k as an example.
 
  In such a case owner of the patent might have an attorney initiate
  contact. If you are willing to communicate they might allow you to pay
  the minimum and be licensed. If you can't do that, they might offer a
  settlement where you stop using the codec and pay them some lesser 
  amount.
 
  If the patent holder can easily prove the violation you might as well
  try to deal with them and get things settled fast. If you sell or give
  away the codec it is easier for them to dig up proof. If you have
  unhappy employees that might be the way they hear about the 
  violation in
  the first place.
 
  Important consideration: Bankruptcy law generally excludes debts 
  created
  by things like malicious or criminal acts.
 
  Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
 

  As far as I know, the g729 patent requires buying a license to 
  operate
  any implementation of it, whether Digium's, Intel's, or any other.
  Digium is set up to collect royalties (perhaps at a favorable rate) as
  part of their license from the patent holder. I don't know about Intel
  or any other. Or what the mechanics are for enforcing the patent on
  someone who operates a codec without a license.
 
 
  On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 10:51 -0500, Al Bochter wrote:
 
 
  
  What about the free open source G729
 
  Best regards,
 
  Al Bochter
  Bochter Services
  http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
 
 
 
  Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
 
   

  I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to 
  connect with
  a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk server
  originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I pre-encode 
  those
  stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded for each 
  call? If
  so, do I need a g729 license for each call, or just a license for 
  the
  preencoder? If the robocalls accept incoming DTMF, do I need g729
  licenses for those calls?
 
 
  On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  
  Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
  From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
   asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
  Xue Liangliang wrote:
   
 
   

  Hi, all
 
  I am a pabx vendor from Singapore. 

Re: [asterisk-users] jitterbuffer on sip.conf

2007-01-08 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In iax.conf there is option jitterbuffer
how about sip protocol ? Are jitterbuffer can configure in sip.conf ?


In 1.2 and 1.0 there is no jitter buffer for SIP.  I think 1.4 might 
have a SIP jitter buffer, but I'm not sure.  Check sip.conf.sample in 1.4.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Hanging up a 3-way conference when middle user hangs up

2007-01-08 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling

Lex Lethol wrote:

As far as I know when I setup a 3-way on something like a cisco will
disconnect everyone when the middle (person who setup the conference)
hangs up.

The problem I describe happens on ATAs and the like that uses flash to
put on hold while setting up the second call.

I am not sure about other phones other than cisco, polycom and a few 
others.


Then the issue is with the ATA config, not Asterisk.  Make sure the ATA 
is set up for 3-way calling, not 3-way conference or 3-way transfer.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Bill Hackensack

On 1/8/07, Al Bochter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I agree. I only know what I have told by others so I do need this input

I have been told that Digum G729 is a big pain the the butt to get
working with Asterisk
and it is very hard on the CPU

Keep in mind I have never used any Ver. of G 729



I only know what I have been told...
I have been told...
I have never used...

All common phrases with this person.  I have never seen somebody spread as
much third party information as this person spreads.  He knows nothing, yet
informs all.  It's real simple to give it a shot and see what happens.  If
you can't afford $10 for testing, maybe you are in the wrong business.  You
claim to have clients using Asterisk.  I'd hate to be one of your clients.
I would hope that my consultant has at least tried the things he/she is
suggesting to me.

FWIW, I have used Digium's g729 and it works great, and is about as simple
to install as you can get.
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Re: [asterisk-users] How to get dial tone back

2007-01-08 Thread Mojo with Horan Company, LLC
The DISA application (show application disa at the CLI) will let you do 
this.

Mojo
On Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:19 pm, Yuan LIU wrote:
 After the user navigated some voice menus, how do I give him another (fake)
 dial tone?

 Yuan Liu


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[asterisk-users] Call Sound Volume Low : between extensions and over ZAP.

2007-01-08 Thread Klaverstyn, David C
Hi All,

 

I am starting to get complains from users that the call volume is very
low and people are having problems haring what is said.  This is for
internal calls (between extensions) and over ZAP.  The problem seems to
be with the caller and callee, no matter if it is an incoming or
outgoing call.

 

I know you can increase the gain levels on the digium cards but is it
possible to increase the volume of voice overall?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Call Sound Volume Low : between extensions and over ZAP.

2007-01-08 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling

Klaverstyn, David C wrote:

Hi All,

 

I am starting to get complains from users that the call volume is very 
low and people are having problems haring what is said.  This is for 
internal calls (between extensions) and over ZAP.  The problem seems to 
be with the caller and callee, no matter if it is an incoming or 
outgoing call.


 

I know you can increase the gain levels on the digium cards but is it 
possible to increase the volume of voice overall?


No.  Gain is done at the interface.  i.e. gains for Zap are in 
/etc/asterisk/zapata.conf and the gains for SIP are in the SIP device.

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RE: [asterisk-users] Call Sound Volume Low : between extensions andover ZAP.

2007-01-08 Thread Klaverstyn, David C
Thanks Eric, That's what I figured but I wanted to make sure that it was
not possible to increase VoIP volume levels.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric
ManxPower Wieling
Sent: Tuesday, 9 January 2007 9:35 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Call Sound Volume Low : between extensions
andover ZAP.

Klaverstyn, David C wrote:
 Hi All,
 
  
 
 I am starting to get complains from users that the call volume is very

 low and people are having problems haring what is said.  This is for 
 internal calls (between extensions) and over ZAP.  The problem seems
to 
 be with the caller and callee, no matter if it is an incoming or 
 outgoing call.
 
  
 
 I know you can increase the gain levels on the digium cards but is it 
 possible to increase the volume of voice overall?

No.  Gain is done at the interface.  i.e. gains for Zap are in 
/etc/asterisk/zapata.conf and the gains for SIP are in the SIP device.
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Re: [asterisk-users] delete=yes is not working

2007-01-08 Thread Mark Greene

OK that makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the explanation.

- Mark
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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Paul
It sounds fairly easy to me.

If I had a 1.4 system built I would write something in perl to do that
and put it under gpl. You could also do it in php or anything else that
can be run from command line and has an asterisk manager interface
available.

I don't even need the g729 codec to get it running and delivered. If it
works for the other codecs it just needs to be tested by someone who has
1.4 with g729 up and running.

Matthew Rubenstein wrote:

   Did you find any operations trouble installing/using the Digium codec
with Asterisk? I'd be surprised if Digium's were hard to use with
Asterisk, considering they wrote and support both. Also can their codec
be used to pre-encode data to files from a Linux command/line? Or just
the Asterisk CLI mentioned earlier in this thread?


On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 00:31 +0200, Zoa wrote:
  

I did some tests a long time ago and the speed was roughly the same. ( I 
think digium's was slightly faster).
I think the IPP version also doesn't work on AMD out of the box.

It's just 10$ a channel, that's not even worth the hassle of trying 
something else.

Joachim

Al Bochter wrote:


Matthew

I agree. I only know what I have told by others so I do need this input

I have been told that Digum G729 is a big pain the the butt to get 
working with Asterisk
and it is very hard on the CPU

Keep in mind I have never used any Ver. of G 729

So tell me what you think.

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email



Matthew Rubenstein wrote:

  

All of which hassle and expense can be avoided by buying a 
license for
Digium's codec, which is tested to work well with Asterisk (and might
come with some support). And is pretty cheap per simul call.

I wonder whether that per call means per codec instance, which
could be multiple licenses on a single conference call, where multiple
(even if not all) parties are getting de/encoded simultaneously. And
whether there are other tools for editing (/mixing/transforming) g729
data, in realtime (streams) or not (files), and whether they require a
license. Ideally sox or equivalent would work on g729, maybe with a
codec plugin.


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 13:23 -0500, Paul wrote:
 



First point to tackle in any case involving patent, copyright or
trademark infringement is whether or not the infringing party would 
have
been qualified to buy any usage rights at all. In a case where you
license the Intel source(read the terms, it's not really that free),
you would be applying for a license under some plan that includes
certain minimum payments. Even if you wrote new source from scratch you
would be in the same boat. Last time I looked at the plans, I didn't 
see
anything with low minimums. So even if you wrote code from scratch and
never used it on more than 6 channels, you might have done something
that normally requires a large upfront payment. Use $10k as an example.

In such a case owner of the patent might have an attorney initiate
contact. If you are willing to communicate they might allow you to pay
the minimum and be licensed. If you can't do that, they might offer a
settlement where you stop using the codec and pay them some lesser 
amount.

If the patent holder can easily prove the violation you might as well
try to deal with them and get things settled fast. If you sell or give
away the codec it is easier for them to dig up proof. If you have
unhappy employees that might be the way they hear about the 
violation in
the first place.

Important consideration: Bankruptcy law generally excludes debts 
created
by things like malicious or criminal acts.

Matthew Rubenstein wrote:

  
  

As far as I know, the g729 patent requires buying a license to 
operate
any implementation of it, whether Digium's, Intel's, or any other.
Digium is set up to collect royalties (perhaps at a favorable rate) as
part of their license from the patent holder. I don't know about Intel
or any other. Or what the mechanics are for enforcing the patent on
someone who operates a codec without a license.


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 10:51 -0500, Al Bochter wrote:





What about the free open source G729

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email



Matthew Rubenstein wrote:

 
  
  

I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to 
connect with
a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk server
originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I pre-encode 
those
stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded for each 
call? If
so, do I need a g729 license for each call, or just a license for 
the
preencoder? If the robocalls accept incoming DTMF, do I need g729
licenses for those calls?


On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   



Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some 

Re: [asterisk-users] Call Sound Volume Low : between extensions andover ZAP.

2007-01-08 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling
All SIP devices I have used allow you to increase the volume levels. 
But it is done in the DEVICE, not in Asterisk.


Klaverstyn, David C wrote:

Thanks Eric, That's what I figured but I wanted to make sure that it was
not possible to increase VoIP volume levels.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk and MiniITX setups

2007-01-08 Thread C F

Looks like indeed I was underclocked, new results:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : CentaurHauls
cpu family  : 6
model   : 10
model name  : VIA Esther processor 1200MHz
stepping: 9
cpu MHz : 1197.301
cache size  : 128 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 tm pni est tm2 rng rng_en ace
ace_en
bogomips: 2398.50

pbx*CLI show translation
Translation times between formats (in milliseconds)
 Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns)

g723   gsm  ulaw  alaw  g726 adpcm  slin lpc10  g729 speex  ilbc
  g723 - - - - - - - - - - -
   gsm - - 4 410 4 316 - -61
  ulaw -11 - 1 8 2 114 - -59
  alaw -11 1 - 8 2 114 - -59
  g726 -16 7 7 - 7 619 - -64
 adpcm -11 2 2 8 - 114 - -59
  slin -10 1 1 7 1 -13 - -58
 lpc10 -473838443837 - - -95
  g729 - - - - - - - - - - -
 speex - - - - - - - - - - -
  ilbc -20111117111023 - - -


Thanks again

On 12/30/06, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks guys, looks like that is the problem I am wondering why I
didn't notice it. Will try to change it in the bios and see if that
helps. I'll report back

On 12/29/06, Gordon Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Paul wrote:

  Doug Lytle wrote:
 
  C F wrote:
 
  Gordon, how did you get such good numbers?
 
  model name  : VIA Esther processor 1200MHz
  cpu MHz : 399.054
 
  Is this accurate?  A 1200mhz cpu running at 399?  Under clocked?
 
  Maybe it is intentionally underclocked to run without a cpu fan.

 My money would be on accidental incorrect BIOS settings - eg. Load Safety
 defaults setting or something. I did have one of hese boards do this on
 me after I had to do a NV-RAM clear after screwing up the video system!

 These VIA processors are quite hardy - I could probably overclock them if
 needed - the 1GHz ones I'm using run cool to the point of being cold, as
 do the 533MHz ones I'm using. I have a couple of 1.2GHz ones with fans,
 (in a router application) and the fans are temperature controlled directly
 by the motherboard, and I've tried my hardest to get them to spin up when
 in-use and they stubbornly stay off!

 (they do spin up at boot time, so I know they do work! but for other
 applications - eg. totally fanless set-top boxes, these are the works and
 some of them have hardware Mpeg decode - which is OT for asterisk though!)


 Gordon
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Re: [asterisk-users] Adding 4000 Lines to asteriskdb via asterisk -rx ?

2007-01-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 04:59:58PM +0100, Christoph Adomeit wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I want to add 4000 Callerids and Callernames to my asterisk-db.
 (/var/lib/asterisk/astdb)
 
 I do not want an external database or an sql-database because I do 
 not want asterisk to depend on external processes.
 
 However, when I do 4000 database put number name via a shellscript
 and asterisk -rx I only have 600 entries later in my asterisk-
 database. The asterisk sockets seems not to be designed for
 bulk updates to the asterisk-db. I also don't want to add 4000
 sleep 1 to my shell-script.

If you have a 'sleep 1', you have a badly written script. You should
wait for Asterisk to finish.

However 4000 invocations of Asterisk can be a pain. Asterisk takes quite
a while to start.

I consider Asterisk's behaviour here a bug. Sadly others don't agree.

 
 Does anybody have an Idea how to add these lines to asterisk ? I
 managed to Build a Perl DB_File Module for db1.8.5 but I do not
 have the know how how to use DB_file and db1 databases.

Option A: Use the manager interface.

Option B: write directly to the socket: ere: usint a small utility
called socat (there's that package in Debian)
http://threebit.net/mail-archive/asterisk-users/msg27519.html

The downside is that you can't tell of you had an error.

 
 Are there some external utilities to lock and update the asteriskdb ?

Grab the sources of the berkely DB from the Asterisk source. It should
have a utility for manipulating a databae. Nothing about locking,
though, I guess.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Juan Jose Comellas
The Intel IPP-based G.729 codec does work with AMD processors out of the box, 
both with the 32 bit and 64 bit versions.


On Mon January 8 2007 19:31, Zoa wrote:
 I did some tests a long time ago and the speed was roughly the same. ( I
 think digium's was slightly faster).
 I think the IPP version also doesn't work on AMD out of the box.

 It's just 10$ a channel, that's not even worth the hassle of trying
 something else.

 Joachim

 Al Bochter wrote:
  Matthew
 
  I agree. I only know what I have told by others so I do need this input
 
  I have been told that Digum G729 is a big pain the the butt to get
  working with Asterisk
  and it is very hard on the CPU
 
  Keep in mind I have never used any Ver. of G 729
 
  So tell me what you think.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Al Bochter
  Bochter Services
  http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
 
  Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
  All of which hassle and expense can be avoided by buying a
  license for
  Digium's codec, which is tested to work well with Asterisk (and might
  come with some support). And is pretty cheap per simul call.
 
  I wonder whether that per call means per codec instance, which
  could be multiple licenses on a single conference call, where multiple
  (even if not all) parties are getting de/encoded simultaneously. And
  whether there are other tools for editing (/mixing/transforming) g729
  data, in realtime (streams) or not (files), and whether they require a
  license. Ideally sox or equivalent would work on g729, maybe with a
  codec plugin.
 
  On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 13:23 -0500, Paul wrote:
  First point to tackle in any case involving patent, copyright or
  trademark infringement is whether or not the infringing party would
  have
  been qualified to buy any usage rights at all. In a case where you
  license the Intel source(read the terms, it's not really that free),
  you would be applying for a license under some plan that includes
  certain minimum payments. Even if you wrote new source from scratch you
  would be in the same boat. Last time I looked at the plans, I didn't
  see
  anything with low minimums. So even if you wrote code from scratch and
  never used it on more than 6 channels, you might have done something
  that normally requires a large upfront payment. Use $10k as an example.
 
  In such a case owner of the patent might have an attorney initiate
  contact. If you are willing to communicate they might allow you to pay
  the minimum and be licensed. If you can't do that, they might offer a
  settlement where you stop using the codec and pay them some lesser
  amount.
 
  If the patent holder can easily prove the violation you might as well
  try to deal with them and get things settled fast. If you sell or give
  away the codec it is easier for them to dig up proof. If you have
  unhappy employees that might be the way they hear about the
  violation in
  the first place.
 
  Important consideration: Bankruptcy law generally excludes debts
  created
  by things like malicious or criminal acts.
 
  Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
  As far as I know, the g729 patent requires buying a license to
  operate
  any implementation of it, whether Digium's, Intel's, or any other.
  Digium is set up to collect royalties (perhaps at a favorable rate) as
  part of their license from the patent holder. I don't know about Intel
  or any other. Or what the mechanics are for enforcing the patent on
  someone who operates a codec without a license.
 
  On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 10:51 -0500, Al Bochter wrote:
  What about the free open source G729
 
  Best regards,
 
  Al Bochter
  Bochter Services
  http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
 
  Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
  I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to
  connect with
  a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk server
  originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I pre-encode
  those
  stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded for each
  call? If
  so, do I need a g729 license for each call, or just a license for
  the
  preencoder? If the robocalls accept incoming DTMF, do I need g729
  licenses for those calls?
 
 
  On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
  From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
   asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
  Xue Liangliang wrote:
  Hi, all
 
  I am a pabx vendor from Singapore. Recently we are going to
 
  implement
 
  a failover solution for our customers using heartbeat, the
  asterisk server can failover perfectly, however the g729 codec
  canot work, because it is binded the mac address, we have
  bought two set of licenses, can you provide us some workaround
  for this scenario?
 
  It shouldn't be a problem 

[asterisk-users] Where is this hilarious Allison Smith file? (Also: Interview with Allison)

2007-01-08 Thread Jerry Glomph Black

Listen to the first 30 (or so) seconds of
http://pod-serve.com/audiofile/filename/4353/interviews-podcast-allison-smith.mp3

There's a queue-related sound file recorded by Allison: Thank you for 
holding... You are the umm, you are SO FAR DOWN the list we won't get your 
call today, probably the Cleaning Lady will notice the phone off the hook at 11 
PM and go 'HAL?'.


I cannot find this file anywhere, despite thorough searching.
Certainly not in the two usual big sound tarfiles.   I have a great place for 
this file in my extensions.conf, no doubt.


I know somebody on the list will embarrass me by pointing out the obvious 
location



In any event, many Allison groupies will enjoy the interview which follows the 
'Cleaning Lady' introduction.




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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread C F

When I first noticed that this thread has over 20 messages i was sure
it is interesting. When I read it I realized that I havn't noticed
that Al Bochter has posted to it.

Plain old stuff, just someone making sure to put a new twist on it.

On 1/8/07, Juan Jose Comellas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The Intel IPP-based G.729 codec does work with AMD processors out of the box,
both with the 32 bit and 64 bit versions.


On Mon January 8 2007 19:31, Zoa wrote:
 I did some tests a long time ago and the speed was roughly the same. ( I
 think digium's was slightly faster).
 I think the IPP version also doesn't work on AMD out of the box.

 It's just 10$ a channel, that's not even worth the hassle of trying
 something else.

 Joachim

 Al Bochter wrote:
  Matthew
 
  I agree. I only know what I have told by others so I do need this input
 
  I have been told that Digum G729 is a big pain the the butt to get
  working with Asterisk
  and it is very hard on the CPU
 
  Keep in mind I have never used any Ver. of G 729
 
  So tell me what you think.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Al Bochter
  Bochter Services
  http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
 
  Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
  All of which hassle and expense can be avoided by buying a
  license for
  Digium's codec, which is tested to work well with Asterisk (and might
  come with some support). And is pretty cheap per simul call.
 
  I wonder whether that per call means per codec instance, which
  could be multiple licenses on a single conference call, where multiple
  (even if not all) parties are getting de/encoded simultaneously. And
  whether there are other tools for editing (/mixing/transforming) g729
  data, in realtime (streams) or not (files), and whether they require a
  license. Ideally sox or equivalent would work on g729, maybe with a
  codec plugin.
 
  On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 13:23 -0500, Paul wrote:
  First point to tackle in any case involving patent, copyright or
  trademark infringement is whether or not the infringing party would
  have
  been qualified to buy any usage rights at all. In a case where you
  license the Intel source(read the terms, it's not really that free),
  you would be applying for a license under some plan that includes
  certain minimum payments. Even if you wrote new source from scratch you
  would be in the same boat. Last time I looked at the plans, I didn't
  see
  anything with low minimums. So even if you wrote code from scratch and
  never used it on more than 6 channels, you might have done something
  that normally requires a large upfront payment. Use $10k as an example.
 
  In such a case owner of the patent might have an attorney initiate
  contact. If you are willing to communicate they might allow you to pay
  the minimum and be licensed. If you can't do that, they might offer a
  settlement where you stop using the codec and pay them some lesser
  amount.
 
  If the patent holder can easily prove the violation you might as well
  try to deal with them and get things settled fast. If you sell or give
  away the codec it is easier for them to dig up proof. If you have
  unhappy employees that might be the way they hear about the
  violation in
  the first place.
 
  Important consideration: Bankruptcy law generally excludes debts
  created
  by things like malicious or criminal acts.
 
  Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
  As far as I know, the g729 patent requires buying a license to
  operate
  any implementation of it, whether Digium's, Intel's, or any other.
  Digium is set up to collect royalties (perhaps at a favorable rate) as
  part of their license from the patent holder. I don't know about Intel
  or any other. Or what the mechanics are for enforcing the patent on
  someone who operates a codec without a license.
 
  On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 10:51 -0500, Al Bochter wrote:
  What about the free open source G729
 
  Best regards,
 
  Al Bochter
  Bochter Services
  http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
 
  Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
  I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to
  connect with
  a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk server
  originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I pre-encode
  those
  stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded for each
  call? If
  so, do I need a g729 license for each call, or just a license for
  the
  preencoder? If the robocalls accept incoming DTMF, do I need g729
  licenses for those calls?
 
 
  On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:08 -0700,
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:47:39 +0800
  From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
   asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
  Xue Liangliang wrote:
  Hi, all
 
  I am a pabx vendor from Singapore. Recently we are going to
 
  implement
 
  a 

Re: [asterisk-users] OT:spa942 provisioning

2007-01-08 Thread Andrew Joakimsen

Good luck dealing with Linksys on that

http://voxilla.com/tools/device-configuration-wizard/certificate-authority-service-for-linksys-analog-voip-adaptors-808.html

On 1/8/07, Benko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello!

Sorry for the OT-thread, but i don't know where else too ask...
Has anyone done http-provisioning of a Linksys SPA942 with client side
ssl-authentication? Where do i get the CA from?
I'm aware of the Sipura mass deployment howto on voip-info.org, but it
doesn't cover the authentification part.

Thanks
Christian
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Re: SV: [asterisk-users] Manage 'full' log file

2007-01-08 Thread Ex Vitorino

On 1/8/07, lenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You know that if you rename an open Unix file, it will stay open - i.e. if
you rename the logfile full to full.1, Asterisk will continue writing
to full.1 thinking it was full.
The logger rotate command forces all log files to be closed and reopened
with their canonical names, so your file is actually rotated.
Hope this helps
l.



 CORRECT about UNIX files, INCORRECT about logger rotate command.

 CORRECTION:

 logger rotate does:

 1. Closes the files
 2. Renames them (actually rotating them)
 3. Reopnes the canonical named files

 logger reload does effectively work as you described:

 1. Closes files
 2. Reopens canonical named files

 This is the command that should be used with logrotate, for
 example.


 EXAMPLE: (consider asterisk running and writing to messages file)

 # cd /var/log/asterisk
 # mv messages messages.old

 (asterisk still running and now writing to messages.old)
 (there is no file named messages)

 # /usr/sbin/asterisk -rx logger reload

 (asterisk closed messages.old and created a new messages file)


 Hope this is clear enough as its really late now...
 Please correct me if I'm wrong

 Cheers
--
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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for toll free in Italy

2007-01-08 Thread Il Neofita

I do not think that there are some company that offer a toll free number
(Numero verde in italian)
But contact on of these three providers
http://www.eutelia.it/tlc/
http://www.unidata.it/
http://messagenet.it/

If they have one of these should be able to give to you

See you

On 1/8/07, CM Rahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




*Hi,*
**
*I am looking for tollfree number in italy. Anybody providing that? Charge
per minute? It will connect to my asterisk pbx box.*
**
*Thanks*
**
*CM*

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RE: [asterisk-users] snom 360 auto answer

2007-01-08 Thread Jason Kim
Thankyou David,

It works for Linksys,but not for snom 360.
Do I need to change someting using web UI ?

--- Klaverstyn, David C
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is my code (that I copied form somewhere) for
 paging a group of
 phones.  By dialling 99 it will page phones 2101,
 2102 and 2105.
 
  
 
 Just include the context ext-paging in your dial
 plan and modify the
 extension numbers and all should be good.
 
  
 
 This works on Linksys Phones but should also work on
 Snoms.
 
  
 
 I hope this helps you.
 
  
 
  
 
 [ext-paging]
 
 exten = PAGE2101,1,GotoIf($[ ${CALLERID(number)} =
 2101 ]?skipself)
 
 exten = PAGE2101,n,Set(__SIPADDHEADER=Call-Info:
 \;answer-after=0)
 
 exten = PAGE2101,n,Set(__ALERT_INFO=Ring Answer)
 
 exten =
 PAGE2101,n,Set(__SIP_URI_OPTIONS=intercom=true)
 
 exten = PAGE2101,n,Dial(SIP/2101,5)
 
 exten = PAGE2101,n(skipself),Noop(Not paging
 originator)
 
  
 
 exten = PAGE2102,1,GotoIf($[ ${CALLERID(number)} =
 2102 ]?skipself)
 
 exten = PAGE2102,n,Set(__SIPADDHEADER=Call-Info:
 \;answer-after=0)
 
 exten = PAGE2102,n,Set(__ALERT_INFO=Ring Answer)
 
 exten =
 PAGE2102,n,Set(__SIP_URI_OPTIONS=intercom=true)
 
 exten = PAGE2102,n,Dial(SIP/2102,5)
 
 exten = PAGE2102,n(skipself),Noop(Not paging
 originator)
 
  
 
 exten = PAGE2105,1,GotoIf($[ ${CALLERID(number)} =
 2105 ]?skipself)
 
 exten = PAGE2105,n,Set(__SIPADDHEADER=Call-Info:
 \;answer-after=0)
 
 exten = PAGE2105,n,Set(__ALERT_INFO=Ring Answer)
 
 exten =
 PAGE2105,n,Set(__SIP_URI_OPTIONS=intercom=true)
 
 exten = PAGE2105,n,Dial(SIP/2105,5)
 
 exten = PAGE2105,n(skipself),Noop(Not paging
 originator)
 
  
 
  
 
 exten = Debug,1,Noop(dialstr is

LOCAL/[EMAIL PROTECTED]LOCAL/[EMAIL PROTECTED]LOCAL/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 aging)
 
 exten =

99,1,Page(LOCAL/[EMAIL PROTECTED]LOCAL/[EMAIL PROTECTED]LOCAL/PAGE
 [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
  
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Jason Kim
 Sent: Monday, 8 January 2007 2:30 PM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: [asterisk-users] snom 360 auto answer
 
  
 
 Hi,
 
  
 
 I'm testing paging using snom 360.
 
 Can someone correct my dialplan?
 
  
 
 Regards,
 
 Jason.
 
  
 
 ==
 
 ;exten = _99,1,SIPAddHeader(Call-Info:
 
 Answer-After=0)
 
 ;exten = _99,n,SIPAddHeader(Call-Info:
 
 sip:192.168.1.113\;answer-after=0)
 
 ;exten = _99,n,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:2})
 
  
 
 exten = _99,1,Set(__SIPADDHEADER=Call-Info:
 
 answer-after=0)
 
 exten =
 
 _99,n,Set(__SIP_URI_OPTIONS=intercom=true)
 
 exten = _99,n,Set(__ALERT_INFO=Ring Answer)
 
 exten = _99,n,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:2})
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread Jerry
 Jerry wrote:

I believe (this may have changed) that ANY patented technology can be
 used
for free educationally. The idea is that people can study and play with
the technology for no charge. I'm not sure if this means that a
University can use this in their phone system without paying the patent
fees,
 though.

Now, certainly there can be open source versions of the G.729 codec.
They can even be free in the sense that the author is not charging. But
the author can't waive the patent rights.

Intel has a freely downloadable codec for educational use, but they have
a long legalese document which explains the patent obligations.

If you are using G.729 commercially, there is no question you have a
legal obligation to pay the patent holder for his rights.

 Whether it's a university or a megacorporation studying the technology,
 they have to be very careful.

 Suppose we are working on automotive fuel economy or emissions
 improvement. If we buy a new or used car we are reasonably sure that a
 multitude of patents involved are being legally used. If we build a
 cadillac clone for the research, I would be worried.

I can't find any refs to it now, so it might well be that the law has
changed. It was very specifically for research purposes only, and may
have been limited to educational institutions. I'll dig around and see if
I can locate the reference.

 Another factor to consider in some cases is when we sign a sales
 contract that includes things like no reverse engineering. It might be
 hard to prove that we did not reverse engineer the product in order to
 develop a patentable improvement.

Since patents require the disclosure of the novel process in order to be
considered, reverse engineering or violating the DMCA (or whatever other
law may apply) wouldn't have to be done. That's the beauty of patents, as
opposed to keeping something a trade secret -- anyone can see what is
being done. (Reverse engineering is generally done to inter operate, not
to recover  something patentable)

J.
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Fwd: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.

2007-01-08 Thread C F

I knew I was doing the right thing, here is the proof, enjoy when you
read it, and have a good laugh.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Al Bochter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Jan 8, 2007 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Some queries on g729 license.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


(C)UNT (F)UCK!

THIS IS OFF THE LIST

FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!
GET A JOB AND STOP LIVING OFF MY TAXES

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING
TRY AND STAY ON THE POINT.

YOU ARE NOW BLOCKED

I AM NOT GOING TO DEAL WITH JACKASSES LIKE YOU

GOOD BYE

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email



C F wrote:


When I first noticed that this thread has over 20 messages i was sure
it is interesting. When I read it I realized that I havn't noticed
that Al Bochter has posted to it.

Plain old stuff, just someone making sure to put a new twist on it.

On 1/8/07, Juan Jose Comellas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The Intel IPP-based G.729 codec does work with AMD processors out of
the box,
both with the 32 bit and 64 bit versions.


On Mon January 8 2007 19:31, Zoa wrote:
 I did some tests a long time ago and the speed was roughly the
same. ( I
 think digium's was slightly faster).
 I think the IPP version also doesn't work on AMD out of the box.

 It's just 10$ a channel, that's not even worth the hassle of trying
 something else.

 Joachim

 Al Bochter wrote:
  Matthew
 
  I agree. I only know what I have told by others so I do need this
input
 
  I have been told that Digum G729 is a big pain the the butt to get
  working with Asterisk
  and it is very hard on the CPU
 
  Keep in mind I have never used any Ver. of G 729
 
  So tell me what you think.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Al Bochter
  Bochter Services
  http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
 
  Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
  All of which hassle and expense can be avoided by buying a
  license for
  Digium's codec, which is tested to work well with Asterisk (and
might
  come with some support). And is pretty cheap per simul call.
 
  I wonder whether that per call means per codec instance,
which
  could be multiple licenses on a single conference call, where
multiple
  (even if not all) parties are getting de/encoded simultaneously.
And
  whether there are other tools for editing (/mixing/transforming)
g729
  data, in realtime (streams) or not (files), and whether they
require a
  license. Ideally sox or equivalent would work on g729, maybe with a
  codec plugin.
 
  On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 13:23 -0500, Paul wrote:
  First point to tackle in any case involving patent, copyright or
  trademark infringement is whether or not the infringing party
would
  have
  been qualified to buy any usage rights at all. In a case where you
  license the Intel source(read the terms, it's not really that
free),
  you would be applying for a license under some plan that includes
  certain minimum payments. Even if you wrote new source from
scratch you
  would be in the same boat. Last time I looked at the plans, I
didn't
  see
  anything with low minimums. So even if you wrote code from
scratch and
  never used it on more than 6 channels, you might have done
something
  that normally requires a large upfront payment. Use $10k as an
example.
 
  In such a case owner of the patent might have an attorney initiate
  contact. If you are willing to communicate they might allow you
to pay
  the minimum and be licensed. If you can't do that, they might
offer a
  settlement where you stop using the codec and pay them some lesser
  amount.
 
  If the patent holder can easily prove the violation you might
as well
  try to deal with them and get things settled fast. If you sell
or give
  away the codec it is easier for them to dig up proof. If you have
  unhappy employees that might be the way they hear about the
  violation in
  the first place.
 
  Important consideration: Bankruptcy law generally excludes debts
  created
  by things like malicious or criminal acts.
 
  Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
  As far as I know, the g729 patent requires buying a
license to
  operate
  any implementation of it, whether Digium's, Intel's, or any
other.
  Digium is set up to collect royalties (perhaps at a favorable
rate) as
  part of their license from the patent holder. I don't know
about Intel
  or any other. Or what the mechanics are for enforcing the
patent on
  someone who operates a codec without a license.
 
  On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 10:51 -0500, Al Bochter wrote:
  What about the free open source G729
 
  Best regards,
 
  Al Bochter
  Bochter Services
  http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
 
  Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
  I connect to a PSTN carrier over SIP which requires me to
  connect with
  a g729 codec. I'm using them for just robocalling: Asterisk
server
  originates calls which play a prerecorded file. Can I
pre-encode
  those
  stored files in g729 so they don't need to be encoded for each
  call? If
  so, do I need a g729 license for each call, or just a
license 

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