[Asterisk-Users] Detecting when a called mobile is not reachable?
Hello all, I was hoping to be able to call a mobile and if it is un-reachable for whatever reason (e.g. switched off) then I was expecting an unobtainable response that would be detected in Asterisk. It seems that the operator (Virgin in UK) imedately completes the call and plays an automated message before clearing the call. Does anyone know if there a way of avoiding the call completion for mobiles? I have noticed that Sipgate charge for a calls to an unavailable mobile regardless. Thanks. Ian. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Detecting when a called mobile is not reachable?
This is traditional accross the mobile / cell providers, and there is no real way around it. Background : The only way to ensure that a mobile is truly there is to page the mobile, normally based on the Mobile Switching Centre (MSC) coverage area, and thats after looking up on the subscirbers HLR, its a lot of signalling for a call not to connect, and a cost to the operator. With the rate that mobile operators charge the A party for the call, they get a percentage of the call from the originating operator, so they get cash as soon as it connects, and therefor its in their interest to connect that call, even if its to an announcement shelf. Its one of the reasons they invented voicemail If there is a way around it, don't shout it too loudly David On Apr 3, 2005 8:56 PM, Ian Hailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > I was hoping to be able to call a mobile and if it is un-reachable for > whatever reason (e.g. switched off) then I was expecting an unobtainable > response that would be detected in Asterisk. It seems that the operator > (Virgin in UK) imedately completes the call and plays an automated > message before clearing the call. Does anyone know if there a way of > avoiding the call completion for mobiles? I have noticed that Sipgate > charge for a calls to an unavailable mobile regardless. > > Thanks. > > Ian. > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Detecting when a called mobile is not reachable?
On Apr 3, 2005 8:56 PM, Ian Hailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello all, I was hoping to be able to call a mobile and if it is un-reachable for whatever reason (e.g. switched off) then I was expecting an unobtainable response that would be detected in Asterisk. It seems that the operator (Virgin in UK) imedately completes the call and plays an automated message before clearing the call. Does anyone know if there a way of avoiding the call completion for mobiles? I have noticed that Sipgate charge for a calls to an unavailable mobile regardless. Bellsouth at least WILL play an automated message, but NOT answer the line. I work around this by adding the "r" option to the Dial command. The "r" option of course provides a fake ringing sound to the caller, even if it REALLY should be doing something else like playing telco audio before answer, or a busy tone. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Detecting when a called mobile is not reachable?
This is quite interesting. I tested calls to 2 mobiles that I knew were off, and not diverted to voicemail. 1 with Telstra, the other with vodafone (I'm in Australia). Via ISDN, both calls were shown as unanswered by asterisk. When the calls went to voicemail, the call was deemed to be answered. Via analogue circuits, the call is shown as answered, no matter what. - Original Message - From: "Ian Hailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 5:56 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Detecting when a called mobile is not reachable? Hello all, I was hoping to be able to call a mobile and if it is un-reachable for whatever reason (e.g. switched off) then I was expecting an unobtainable response that would be detected in Asterisk. It seems that the operator (Virgin in UK) imedately completes the call and plays an automated message before clearing the call. Does anyone know if there a way of avoiding the call completion for mobiles? I have noticed that Sipgate charge for a calls to an unavailable mobile regardless. Thanks. Ian. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Detecting when a called mobile is not reachable?
Rod Bacon wrote: This is quite interesting. I tested calls to 2 mobiles that I knew were off, and not diverted to voicemail. 1 with Telstra, the other with vodafone (I'm in Australia). Via ISDN, both calls were shown as unanswered by asterisk. When the calls went to voicemail, the call was deemed to be answered. Via analogue circuits, the call is shown as answered, no matter what. That's what I would expect. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Detecting when a called mobile is not reachable?
I guess I should have added that this is based on the European, and specifically UK model, but I would have expected it to have been deemed best practice by most operators. On Apr 4, 2005 4:04 AM, Eric Wieling aka ManxPower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rod Bacon wrote: > > This is quite interesting. > > > > I tested calls to 2 mobiles that I knew were off, and not diverted to > > voicemail. 1 with Telstra, the other with vodafone (I'm in Australia). > > Via ISDN, both calls were shown as unanswered by asterisk. When the > > calls went to voicemail, the call was deemed to be answered. > > > > Via analogue circuits, the call is shown as answered, no matter what. > > That's what I would expect. > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Detecting when a called mobile is not reachable?
David John Walsh wrote: I guess I should have added that this is based on the European, and specifically UK model, but I would have expected it to have been deemed best practice by most operators. On Apr 4, 2005 4:04 AM, Eric Wieling aka ManxPower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rod Bacon wrote: This is quite interesting. I tested calls to 2 mobiles that I knew were off, and not diverted to voicemail. 1 with Telstra, the other with vodafone (I'm in Australia). Via ISDN, both calls were shown as unanswered by asterisk. When the calls went to voicemail, the call was deemed to be answered. Via analogue circuits, the call is shown as answered, no matter what. That's what I would expect. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Thaks for all your replies, adding the *r* seems to help. Ian. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
