[Asterisk-Users] ISDN BRI with National (north america) Signalling

2004-06-09 Thread Jon Pounder

Anyone actually got this working with asterisk ?

I have read posts that it is possible with capi and the diva server cards.
Regular diva and diva pro both claim to support NI-1 and NI-2 and CAPI -
will they work as well ?

Has anyone actually got it working ? Forget the should and could part, I
only care about the does/doesn't and why.

If you have it working, please tell me - telco, signalling type, and
hardware model, and how configured in asterisk.

Also for any ISDN gurus out there - is there a simple way to loop back BRI
so I can call from one B to the other for testing with the proper
signalling for National to see if asterisk actually works without
committing to ordering a line that will be useless if it does not work.

Thanks



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN BRI with National (north america) Signalling

2004-06-09 Thread Walt Reed
On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 11:24:11AM -0400, Jon Pounder said:
 Also for any ISDN gurus out there - is there a simple way to loop back BRI
 so I can call from one B to the other for testing with the proper
 signalling for National to see if asterisk actually works without
 committing to ordering a line that will be useless if it does not work.

While I'm not an ISDN guru, a google for ISDN loopback shows products in
the $150 range that are designed for this. Most seem to be euro, but
there are US products too.

FWIW, I would also be very interested in US BRI ISDN w/ * info. Analog POTS
just blows. Looking through the Verizon tariffs, it seems as conversion
from POTS to BRI is supported and reasonably affordable.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN BRI with National (north america) Signalling

2004-06-09 Thread Justin Huff
 Anyone actually got this working with asterisk ?
Yupbut it was a year ago, so I've forgotten the specifics.

 I have read posts that it is possible with capi and the diva server cards.
 Regular diva and diva pro both claim to support NI-1 and NI-2 and CAPI -
 will they work as well ?
I used CAPI plus a single port Diva server card.  The passive cards
don't have the required Linux CAPI support from my understanding.

 If you have it working, please tell me - telco, signalling type, and
 hardware model, and how configured in asterisk.
This was with BellSouth, NI-1 w/ the EZ1 package.  We tried to switch to
EKTS, but that futzed it up.

I used the drivers from http://www.melware.net/  There is also firmware,
I can't recall if I got it from them or not.


 Also for any ISDN gurus out there - is there a simple way to loop back BRI
Not really, you'd need master/network mode support.  That is currently
available only on the passive EuroISDN cards.  kapejod has it on his
list, but as a lower priority.

For what's it worth, it ISDN worked great.  I'm sure it's only gotten
better over the past year.  It's a great voice service when you just
want a couple channels.  Now if only US telcos weren't so dumb about
it...they just want to sell you DSL since ISDN is such a slow data
connection..g


--Justin

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Re: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN BRI with National (north america) Signalling

2004-06-09 Thread Walt Reed
On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 11:03:50AM -0500, Rick Smith said:
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN BRI with National (north america) Signalling

2004-06-09 Thread Brian Cuthie
Actually, here in Maryland ISDN BRI is cheaper than POTS. POTS business 
lines are like $20 each, and caller-id is around $8.50 per line. So two 
lines with caller-id are about $57. On the other hand, a BRI, which has 
awesome voice quality and includes CLID is $45. If you get a residential 
ISDN line they can be as cheap as ~$30.

And I agree with whomever said that Verizon doesn't quite get it. 
Whenever I call about an ISDN line they try really hard to steer me 
towards DSL. Although if you get to the right business unit they're a 
little better.

Years ago I had a bunch of ATT 7506 phones on a BRI with CO-based 
custom ISDN centrex. It was like having my own $20M switch. Of course 
convincing them that they *could* do this, and that it was a tariffed 
service was difficult. There were times I had to fax them copies of the 
relevant ISDN tariff and pages from the 5ESS provisioning guide.

ISDN can be very, very cool. The Europeans have figured this out, but 
the US telcos are just waiting to be put out of their misery. Hopefully 
VoIP will do it.

-brian
Walt Reed wrote:
On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 11:24:11AM -0400, Jon Pounder said:
 

Also for any ISDN gurus out there - is there a simple way to loop back BRI
so I can call from one B to the other for testing with the proper
signalling for National to see if asterisk actually works without
committing to ordering a line that will be useless if it does not work.
   

While I'm not an ISDN guru, a google for ISDN loopback shows products in
the $150 range that are designed for this. Most seem to be euro, but
there are US products too.
FWIW, I would also be very interested in US BRI ISDN w/ * info. Analog POTS
just blows. Looking through the Verizon tariffs, it seems as conversion
from POTS to BRI is supported and reasonably affordable.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN BRI with National (north america) Signalling

2004-06-09 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Wednesday 09 June 2004 12:21, Walt Reed wrote:
 You have got to be shitting me. *PLONK* goes Rick.

Yup, I got that too, and that was my response as well.  Screw 'im.  I won't 
play that game.

Regards,
Andrew
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RE: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN BRI with National (north america) Signalling

2004-06-09 Thread Kevin Walsh
 On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 11:03:50AM -0500, Rick Smith said:
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN BRI with National (north america)Signalling

2004-06-09 Thread Jon Pounder


 Regular diva and diva pro both claim to support NI-1 and NI-2 and CAPI -
 will they work as well ?
 I used CAPI plus a single port Diva server card.  The passive cards
 don't have the required Linux CAPI support from my understanding.

From my read over the eicon site the basic difference is the Server card
is more heavy on dsp stuff - similar to what they call diva pro on the
client side (same card maybe ?)

Now why for asterisk do we care about a dsp on a digital line ? I don't
get it. Do we not want the digital data from a digital line (after simply
running through a modem to pull the line format into a bitstream) input
directly into asterisk like a serial port ? We don't care about wav data
or reconstructing audio, since we only want to send it on to other stuff
digitally anyway - right ? Or have I missed something obvious here ?

In fact the regular diva card is noted as having linux support and pro
does not have it listed - go figure 


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RE: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ISDN BRI with National (north america) Signalling

2004-06-09 Thread Jon Pounder

 On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 11:03:50AM -0500, Rick Smith said:
  You are receiving this message because of a message you sent to Rick
  Smith.
 
  Rick Smith is using a new anti-spam webbased service called
  SpamRival.com. As such he/she only accepts email from
  authenticated users.
 
 Make your mind up, Rick.  Are you a he or a she?

He/she has one of those gender changer adapters - just like for a serial
port. :)

I guess we can say whatever we want about him since he's not getting the
email anyway





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