Re: [Asterisk-Users] RE: Euro-ISDN
On Wed, February 1, 2006 22:12, Armin Schindler said: On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Aldo Bergamini wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is believed to have said: chan_capi does not set the NT-mode. Your cards driver need to do that. E.g. for Eicon DIVA Server cards, you just set the '-x' option with divactrl or set NT-mode in the config wizard. chan_capi does not (need) to know anything about what protocol the card is doing. CAPI is independent here. Ok. Anyway, if the card is set to NT mode, you should specify ntmode=yes in the capi.conf to tell chan_capi to handle the progress better (get progress tones). Fine! One last related subpoint: while Eicon Diva cards have their own setup application, is there anything standard to control the basic setup of generic HFC-S cards? (something similar to the ztconfig tool for analog cards) Sorry, I cannot answer that one. I don't know enough about these cards and their drivers. With BRIstuff you get to use ztcfg, etc. Cannot say anything about mISDN, CAPI... -- F Peeters PIII 450 - 1 GB - * 1.2 - BRIstuff 0.3.0 Pre 1 - Florz patch 2 Sweex HFC-PCI modes=2 sync_slave=2 timer_card=0 Cologne HFC-S pins #52, #54, #55 connected in parallel for synching. AMD Duron 1GHz - 1GB - * 1.2.1 2 Sweex HFC-PCI cards ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Re: Euro-ISDN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is believed to have said: [setup tool] Sorry, I cannot answer that one. I don't know enough about these cards and their drivers. Armin, thanks alot. One has to do some research and experimentation on his own every now and then; and see if there is anything interesting that might even end up in the wiki... ;-) So in the end there a lot of reasons to go for a 'better' card. Yes, a lot reasons. But actually, it depends on what you need and what you want to do. You are right.. I was asking about ISDN cards to see if there was any simple integration path for some more expensive units (where one might use those with ISDN interfaces first). But now I'll have to fiddle with the newly arrived GSM-gateway first. And this is a nice, little analog unit. Thank you very much, Aldo ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Re: Euro-ISDN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is believed to have said: With BRIstuff you get to use ztcfg, etc. Cannot say anything about mISDN, CAPI... Francesco, thank you; this is important to know Aldo ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] RE: Euro-ISDN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is believed to have said: While we are at the subject another couple of simple related question. Are HFC-S cards active? I got one for a very low price, so that I imagine it will be NOT the case... No, these cards are passive. The protocol handling must be done by the hosts CPU / driver. OK; price sometimes tells the truth... What cards do support operation of an ISDN phone set? (I imagine there will be something similar to the FXS-FXO stuff of the analog world in the ISDN land). For that you need cards operated in NT-mode. The driver / protocol must support this, but the card too. HFC-S cards do as far as I know (I don't know if all do). Fine; I looked into the capi.conf file, but (my lack of knowledge!) I did not understand if there is any setting to tell the driver to operate a card in NT-mode. So, does the newest (which I have anyways to download for the next release of our pbx) capi driver support NT mode? When talking about active cards, I only know of Eicon cards supporting this. Well, in the end it's an option to take into consideration. One and a half years ago as I started learning about Asterisk I had an option to buy Eicon cards, but I was unsure about my ability to cope with the complexity of learning the needed bits to get started. So I bought an AVM card Today the situation changed somewhat: may be time for the next step. Armin Thanks a lot Aldo ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] RE: Euro-ISDN
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Aldo Bergamini wrote: What cards do support operation of an ISDN phone set? (I imagine there will be something similar to the FXS-FXO stuff of the analog world in the ISDN land). For that you need cards operated in NT-mode. The driver / protocol must support this, but the card too. HFC-S cards do as far as I know (I don't know if all do). Fine; I looked into the capi.conf file, but (my lack of knowledge!) I did not understand if there is any setting to tell the driver to operate a card in NT-mode. chan_capi does not set the NT-mode. Your cards driver need to do that. E.g. for Eicon DIVA Server cards, you just set the '-x' option with divactrl or set NT-mode in the config wizard. chan_capi does not (need) to know anything about what protocol the card is doing. CAPI is independent here. Anyway, if the card is set to NT mode, you should specify ntmode=yes in the capi.conf to tell chan_capi to handle the progress better (get progress tones). So, does the newest (which I have anyways to download for the next release of our pbx) capi driver support NT mode? capi driver? I think you mean chan_capi? Yes it does support TE and NT mode, as well as DSS1, 1TR6, JAPAN, NI1, QSIG, 5ESS, and a lot more protocols. The card and the cards driver need to support/provide this. Armin ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] RE: Euro-ISDN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is believed to have said: chan_capi does not set the NT-mode. Your cards driver need to do that. E.g. for Eicon DIVA Server cards, you just set the '-x' option with divactrl or set NT-mode in the config wizard. chan_capi does not (need) to know anything about what protocol the card is doing. CAPI is independent here. Ok. Anyway, if the card is set to NT mode, you should specify ntmode=yes in the capi.conf to tell chan_capi to handle the progress better (get progress tones). Fine! One last related subpoint: while Eicon Diva cards have their own setup application, is there anything standard to control the basic setup of generic HFC-S cards? (something similar to the ztconfig tool for analog cards) capi driver? I think you mean chan_capi? Yes it does support TE and NT mode, as well as DSS1, 1TR6, JAPAN, NI1, QSIG, 5ESS, and a lot more protocols. Yes, I meant actually the chan_capi module... Nice to know. The card and the cards driver need to support/provide this. Armin So in the end there a lot of reasons to go for a 'better' card. Thanks alot for all this information! Regards Aldo ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] RE: Euro-ISDN
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Aldo Bergamini wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is believed to have said: chan_capi does not set the NT-mode. Your cards driver need to do that. E.g. for Eicon DIVA Server cards, you just set the '-x' option with divactrl or set NT-mode in the config wizard. chan_capi does not (need) to know anything about what protocol the card is doing. CAPI is independent here. Ok. Anyway, if the card is set to NT mode, you should specify ntmode=yes in the capi.conf to tell chan_capi to handle the progress better (get progress tones). Fine! One last related subpoint: while Eicon Diva cards have their own setup application, is there anything standard to control the basic setup of generic HFC-S cards? (something similar to the ztconfig tool for analog cards) Sorry, I cannot answer that one. I don't know enough about these cards and their drivers. capi driver? I think you mean chan_capi? Yes it does support TE and NT mode, as well as DSS1, 1TR6, JAPAN, NI1, QSIG, 5ESS, and a lot more protocols. Yes, I meant actually the chan_capi module... Nice to know. The card and the cards driver need to support/provide this. Armin So in the end there a lot of reasons to go for a 'better' card. Yes, a lot reasons. But actually, it depends on what you need and what you want to do. Armin ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] RE: Euro-ISDN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is believed to have said: The active cards do the ISDN protocol stuff on board, so the host CPU/driver does not need to do that - better performance, less interrupts. The AVM cards do not have such DSPs on board, so no echo-cancel. But the Eicon DIVA Server cards do. They do analog Fax/Modem, echo-cancel, DTMF-detection, voice codec, line interconnect/mixing even to other cards, ... with the on boards DSP. chan_capi-cm is supporting most of the features and will do more soon. Armin While we are at the subject another couple of simple related question. Are HFC-S cards active? I got one for a very low price, so that I imagine it will be NOT the case... What cards do support operation of an ISDN phone set? (I imagine there will be something similar to the FXS-FXO stuff of the analog world in the ISDN land). Thanks in advance Aldo ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] RE: Euro-ISDN
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Aldo Bergamini wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is believed to have said: The active cards do the ISDN protocol stuff on board, so the host CPU/driver does not need to do that - better performance, less interrupts. The AVM cards do not have such DSPs on board, so no echo-cancel. But the Eicon DIVA Server cards do. They do analog Fax/Modem, echo-cancel, DTMF-detection, voice codec, line interconnect/mixing even to other cards, ... with the on boards DSP. chan_capi-cm is supporting most of the features and will do more soon. Armin While we are at the subject another couple of simple related question. Are HFC-S cards active? I got one for a very low price, so that I imagine it will be NOT the case... No, these cards are passive. The protocol handling must be done by the hosts CPU / driver. What cards do support operation of an ISDN phone set? (I imagine there will be something similar to the FXS-FXO stuff of the analog world in the ISDN land). For that you need cards operated in NT-mode. The driver / protocol must support this, but the card too. HFC-S cards do as far as I know (I don't know if all do). When talking about active cards, I only know of Eicon cards supporting this. Armin ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] RE: Euro-ISDN
On 20:21, Tue 31 Jan 06, Armin Schindler wrote: For that you need cards operated in NT-mode. The driver / protocol must support this, but the card too. HFC-S cards do as far as I know (I don't know if all do). When talking about active cards, I only know of Eicon cards supporting this. The junghanns quad/octo BRI cards support this too. -- Michiel van Baak http://michiel.vanbaak.info [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x7E0B9A2D Why is it drug addicts and computer afficionados are both called users? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
