Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
On Friday 22 October 2004 02:05 pm, Neil Cherry wrote: David Ishmael wrote: I think my Netgear router will try to lease the same DHCP address to a device based on MAC automatically each time the device queries for an address (but I'm not 100% sure about that, never really watched it). So the problem is with the address changing? I can't infer that from the 2 examples as it may be some other problem with the DHCP implementation on the DHCP server. Though it may be a possibility. I like to have the stationary IP devices to have a permanent IP address. It just makes it easier to admin my local DNS (I have too many devices to remember all the IP addresses). Hmmm. In my opinion DHCP is mostly a false time saver anyway. It's true you can just plug in a host and have it get an ip nice and easily. But I prefer to know who's IP is on the wire with a minimum of fuss. I like to be able to notice that nnn is being involved far too often in that XYZ problem, or whatever. Plus it's one less service to maintain. Whenever I add a host I spend a little more time with configuring it but that's better than chasing leases as far as I'm concerned. Eases LAN maintenance a lot. True, as an ISP I would use DHCP. It's quite suitable there as I would have more limited resources. But on a LAN it's hard to run out of IP's. It's kind of how windows got popular, thanks to the apparent easier way of doing things, and how lazy we all seem to be. Anyway, this is on th edge of the topic so I'll stop here. -- Steve Szmidt They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
So in keeping with the topic, the GS phones work well with the Asterisk system? Should I get a GS phone or is there another phone that I should consider? Since this is for my home rather than a company, I just want something that will work with little fuss. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve szmidt Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 4:37 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream On Friday 22 October 2004 02:05 pm, Neil Cherry wrote: David Ishmael wrote: I think my Netgear router will try to lease the same DHCP address to a device based on MAC automatically each time the device queries for an address (but I'm not 100% sure about that, never really watched it). So the problem is with the address changing? I can't infer that from the 2 examples as it may be some other problem with the DHCP implementation on the DHCP server. Though it may be a possibility. I like to have the stationary IP devices to have a permanent IP address. It just makes it easier to admin my local DNS (I have too many devices to remember all the IP addresses). Hmmm. In my opinion DHCP is mostly a false time saver anyway. It's true you can just plug in a host and have it get an ip nice and easily. But I prefer to know who's IP is on the wire with a minimum of fuss. I like to be able to notice that nnn is being involved far too often in that XYZ problem, or whatever. Plus it's one less service to maintain. Whenever I add a host I spend a little more time with configuring it but that's better than chasing leases as far as I'm concerned. Eases LAN maintenance a lot. True, as an ISP I would use DHCP. It's quite suitable there as I would have more limited resources. But on a LAN it's hard to run out of IP's. It's kind of how windows got popular, thanks to the apparent easier way of doing things, and how lazy we all seem to be. Anyway, this is on th edge of the topic so I'll stop here. -- Steve Szmidt They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
GS is fine for that -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ishmael Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 5:49 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream So in keeping with the topic, the GS phones work well with the Asterisk system? Should I get a GS phone or is there another phone that I should consider? Since this is for my home rather than a company, I just want something that will work with little fuss. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve szmidt Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 4:37 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream On Friday 22 October 2004 02:05 pm, Neil Cherry wrote: David Ishmael wrote: I think my Netgear router will try to lease the same DHCP address to a device based on MAC automatically each time the device queries for an address (but I'm not 100% sure about that, never really watched it). So the problem is with the address changing? I can't infer that from the 2 examples as it may be some other problem with the DHCP implementation on the DHCP server. Though it may be a possibility. I like to have the stationary IP devices to have a permanent IP address. It just makes it easier to admin my local DNS (I have too many devices to remember all the IP addresses). Hmmm. In my opinion DHCP is mostly a false time saver anyway. It's true you can just plug in a host and have it get an ip nice and easily. But I prefer to know who's IP is on the wire with a minimum of fuss. I like to be able to notice that nnn is being involved far too often in that XYZ problem, or whatever. Plus it's one less service to maintain. Whenever I add a host I spend a little more time with configuring it but that's better than chasing leases as far as I'm concerned. Eases LAN maintenance a lot. True, as an ISP I would use DHCP. It's quite suitable there as I would have more limited resources. But on a LAN it's hard to run out of IP's. It's kind of how windows got popular, thanks to the apparent easier way of doing things, and how lazy we all seem to be. Anyway, this is on th edge of the topic so I'll stop here. -- Steve Szmidt They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
I was considering a GS phone (102 or 102D), what version of the GS are you using? Do all GS phones have issues with DHCP? I use DHCP on my network so I want to make sure I understand potential issues before making any purchases. Also, does anyone know of any wireless SIP phones? Asterisk/VoIP Newbie, -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen R. Besch Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:36 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream Michael George wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 01:46:01PM -0400, Stephen R. Besch wrote: I have never been able to get the Grandstream to register reliably - with any version of the firmware. So you mean you don't use the Grandstreams, then? On the contrary, I use almost nothing but GS phones. As long as I avoid DHCP and don't use the periodic registration function, they are 100% reliable. I have 23 of them, and with the exception of reboots after power outages or when updating firmware, I have had virtually no serious problems with them. In the early days (that is 6 months back) the call waiting tone was obnoxiously loud. However that was fixed some time ago. Since then, I have been quite satisfied with them, especially considering the cost. Stephen R. Besch ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
David Ishmael wrote: I was considering a GS phone (102 or 102D), what version of the GS are you using? Do all GS phones have issues with DHCP? I use DHCP on my network so I want to make sure I understand potential issues before making any purchases. I have my GS101 working with DHCP, I setup my dhcp server to give out the same address each time. Like this host bt101a { hardware ethernet 00:0b:82:xx:xx:xx; fixed-address 192.168.2.192; option routers 192.168.2.254; option domain-name-servers 192.168.2.10; option domain-name uucp ; option log-servers 192.168.2.10 ; # option time-servers192.168.2.10 ; option time-offset -18000; # Eastern Standard Time always-reply-rfc1048 true ; } I never could get my time server to work with the GS. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.comcast.net/~ncherry/ (Text only) http://hcs.sourceforge.net/ (HCS II) http://linuxha.blogspot.com/My HA Blog ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
I think my Netgear router will try to lease the same DHCP address to a device based on MAC automatically each time the device queries for an address (but I'm not 100% sure about that, never really watched it). So the problem is with the address changing? -Dave -Original Message- From: Neil Cherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream David Ishmael wrote: I was considering a GS phone (102 or 102D), what version of the GS are you using? Do all GS phones have issues with DHCP? I use DHCP on my network so I want to make sure I understand potential issues before making any purchases. I have my GS101 working with DHCP, I setup my dhcp server to give out the same address each time. Like this host bt101a { hardware ethernet 00:0b:82:xx:xx:xx; fixed-address 192.168.2.192; option routers 192.168.2.254; option domain-name-servers 192.168.2.10; option domain-name uucp ; option log-servers 192.168.2.10 ; # option time-servers192.168.2.10 ; option time-offset -18000; # Eastern Standard Time always-reply-rfc1048 true ; } I never could get my time server to work with the GS. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.comcast.net/~ncherry/ (Text only) http://hcs.sourceforge.net/ (HCS II) http://linuxha.blogspot.com/My HA Blog ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
David Ishmael wrote: I think my Netgear router will try to lease the same DHCP address to a device based on MAC automatically each time the device queries for an address (but I'm not 100% sure about that, never really watched it). So the problem is with the address changing? I can't infer that from the 2 examples as it may be some other problem with the DHCP implementation on the DHCP server. Though it may be a possibility. I like to have the stationary IP devices to have a permanent IP address. It just makes it easier to admin my local DNS (I have too many devices to remember all the IP addresses). -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.comcast.net/~ncherry/ (Text only) http://hcs.sourceforge.net/ (HCS II) http://linuxha.blogspot.com/My HA Blog ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
Since this is for my home network, I suspect I can just assign an IP to the one or two GS phones to error on the safe side. Of the GS users, is there any difference between the GS 102 and 102D? -Dave -Original Message- From: Neil Cherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 2:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream David Ishmael wrote: I think my Netgear router will try to lease the same DHCP address to a device based on MAC automatically each time the device queries for an address (but I'm not 100% sure about that, never really watched it). So the problem is with the address changing? I can't infer that from the 2 examples as it may be some other problem with the DHCP implementation on the DHCP server. Though it may be a possibility. I like to have the stationary IP devices to have a permanent IP address. It just makes it easier to admin my local DNS (I have too many devices to remember all the IP addresses). -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.comcast.net/~ncherry/ (Text only) http://hcs.sourceforge.net/ (HCS II) http://linuxha.blogspot.com/My HA Blog ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
Neil Cherry wrote: I never could get my time server to work with the GS. The following is an excerpt from my web page. I also use phones on a private subnet. Linux is RedHat. This works for me: The time service must be configured to allow the phones to request the time from your server, which must have at least one IP on the same private subnet as your phones, and can therefore can be reached without the need of a router (which won't pass any private subnet packets) and at least one IP on a public subnet so that it can reach a public time server. I run the time service on my Asterisk server. (You could set Asterisk up to be a master time server, but unless you absolutely must, I would not do this.) First, using the Date/Time setting panel in RedHat, specify a public time server either by name or IP. Once you have a valid time server defined, activate the NTP service on your server. You must activate the service first, since the RedHat applet removes any customizations that are added to the ntp.conf file when you activate the service from the Date/Time applet. (Is this stupid or what?) Once the service is running, add the following line to /etc/ntp.conf : restrict 192.168.xx.0 mask 255.255.255.0 notrust nomodify notrap Where xx is the common subnet of your phones and your server. Then, restart the time service from the services applet - NOT from the date/time applet! These settings configure the time service to be a time mirror. In other words, it merely accepts time settings from the public server you defined earlier, and passes them on to anyone that requests them, providing that they lie in the 192.168.xx subnet. After that, your phones should be able to retrieve the time/date from the server using any IP's that you have defined in the server that lie on your private network Stephen R. Besch ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
Michael George wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 01:46:01PM -0400, Stephen R. Besch wrote: I have never been able to get the Grandstream to register reliably - with any version of the firmware. So you mean you don't use the Grandstreams, then? On the contrary, I use almost nothing but GS phones. As long as I avoid DHCP and don't use the periodic registration function, they are 100% reliable. I have 23 of them, and with the exception of reboots after power outages or when updating firmware, I have had virtually no serious problems with them. In the early days (that is 6 months back) the call waiting tone was obnoxiously loud. However that was fixed some time ago. Since then, I have been quite satisfied with them, especially considering the cost. Stephen R. Besch ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 10:35 -0400, Stephen R. Besch wrote: On the contrary, I use almost nothing but GS phones. As long as I avoid DHCP and don't use the periodic registration function, they are 100% reliable. I have 23 of them, and with the exception of reboots after power outages or when updating firmware, I have had virtually no serious problems with them. In the early days (that is 6 months back) the call waiting tone was obnoxiously loud. However that was fixed some time ago. Since then, I have been quite satisfied with them, especially considering the cost. I've got another dozen with no problems and I do use DHCP. -- Dave Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
Michael George wrote: I am having trouble with a Grandstream Budgetone 101. It's at firmware 1.0.5.10 and I'm running * 1.0.0. I have the phone getting a DHCP address and * expects it to register. When I reboot the phone it does register just fine. However, after a while * cannot contact the phone. I will call the phone and * will tell me: -- Called grandstream1 Oct 20 09:41:16 WARNING[98310]: chan_sip.c:681 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call [EMAIL PROTECTED] for seqno 102 (Critical Request) Looking in teh archives, it seems that that indicates that the registration is expired. I've got the phone set to 60m register intervals (and * acks that when the phone registers) but after the hour it doesn't re-register. I've also tried 15m and 2m register timeouts. I have Sip Registration and Unregister on Reboot both set to Yes on the phone. Register Expiration is 60. The phone is at 192.168.42.234 and * is as 192.168.1.3. Both internal but no NAT between them. And the initial registration works fine. I've searched through the mail list archives and tried all the suggestions I could find there, but the phone behaves the same: registration appears to be lost. Incidentally, I set the phone to a static IP (192.168.42.99) and also set * from host=dynamic to host=192.168.42.99 but * couldn't call the phone at all after that. (I did graceful restarts on * between the change). Can anyone see what I might be missing? I don't have the SIP UserID or Authenticate ID set to the phone's extension, but the SIP User ID is the same as the Authenticate ID which is the same as the context in *'s sip.conf. It doesn't seem that would have an effect, but I thought I'd mention it. Thanks! Michael, I have never been able to get the Grandstream to register reliably - with any version of the firmware. It sounds like in your test with the fixed IP, you left the registration option on the phone set to yes. With a fixed IP and host=IP address, I am pretty sure that you must turn off registration on the phone. It's useless anyway with fixed IP and just reduces reliability (as you have discovered the hard way). Asterisk periodically sends polling packets to the phone, so it will know when it is reachable and when it is not. And, the phone will still authenticate against the password, so this should not lower security at all. Stephen R. Besch ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 01:46:01PM -0400, Stephen R. Besch wrote: I have never been able to get the Grandstream to register reliably - with any version of the firmware. So you mean you don't use the Grandstreams, then? It sounds like in your test with the fixed IP, you left the registration option on the phone set to yes. With a fixed IP and host=IP address, I am pretty sure that you must turn off registration on the phone. Yes, I did that at first, but then I turned it off and reset the phone. I might try it again, though. It's useless anyway with fixed IP and just reduces reliability (as you have discovered the hard way). Asterisk periodically sends polling packets to the phone, so it will know when it is reachable and when it is not. And, the phone will still authenticate against the password, so this should not lower security at all. Yes, the phone is fine for outgoing calls, but we need incoming... I think it's in one of those polling attempts that the phone stops responding. I may or may not get an answer from it and I cannot call it. :( Thanks for your reply! -- -M There are 10 kinds of people in this world: Those who can count in binary and those who cannot. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Re: cannot call Grandstream
Michael Stephen; I have been running GS BT101's for the past few months in a fixed IP arrangement and have not had a problem with the registration process. Budgetones seem very reliable. I have the phones configured to do registration and expire every minute. I have SIP user ID and Authenticate ID set on the phone to the same as the phone number defined in the sip.conf file of course. Also no Authenticate password defined. I plan to move to a DHCP environment sometime soon. Hopefully I will be able to get through that too. Mike Meyer On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 12:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, I have never been able to get the Grandstream to register reliably - with any version of the firmware. It sounds like in your test with the fixed IP, you left the registration option on the phone set to yes. With a fixed IP and host=IP address, I am pretty sure that you must turn off registration on the phone. It's useless anyway with fixed IP and just reduces reliability (as you have discovered the hard way). Asterisk periodically sends polling packets to the phone, so it will know when it is reachable and when it is not. And, the phone will still authenticate against the password, so this should not lower security at all. Stephen R. Besch ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users