[Asterisk-Users] Stop this I'm trying to help you.(Fwd: Please confirm your message)

2005-04-14 Thread C F
Why do ppl do this?
and no I will *not* follow the link.

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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:05:25 -0400
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Setgroup  Checkgroup
I will need more info in order to help you. Are you on IRC?

On 4/14/05, Ronald Wiplinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 C F wrote:

 On 4/11/05, Damian Funnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 I would try setting the group name to something shorter and less likely
 to conflict with any reserved system names (try something arbitrary like
 'group1', 'group2', etc.
 
 Our experience with SetGroup certainly doesn't indicate that using two
 or more setgroups results in previous ones reverting to zero - we have a
 total of four SetGroups and these are set and checked extensively
 through our dial plan and they work fine.
 
 
 
 
 
 You wont see it unless you run into problems or use noop in your dial
 plan to show you what is being done.
 
 But by design setgroup just sets a variable for the current channel,
 it's the same as using SetVar(GROUP=whatever), as soon as issue
 setgroup again the first group is gone, consider the following:
 exten _.,1,SetGroup(test)
 exten _.,2,SetGroup(test2)
 exten _.,3,GetGroupCount(test)
 exten _.,4,Noop(${GROUPCOUNT})
 exten _.,5,GetGroupCount(test2)
 exten _.,6,Noop(${GROUPCOUNT})
 
 line 4 above will return 0, and line 6 will return 1. The reason is
 because you have overwritten the variable ${GROUP} at line 2.
 
 To Ronald, I think your problem has to do with the fact that you are
 using local channels, which are then mapped to sip channels, but I
 don't think you should have any operational problems, correct me if
 I'm wrong.
 
 
 

 The code should use one of the two lines (I jump there in with Random()
 ), and if this (first) one is already in use than use the other one.
 However, it does not work.
 I also need to make sure that an outgoing call will set this flag as well.

 Can you help me to fix that?

 bye

 Ronald

 Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
 
 
 
 Damian Funnell wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Ronald,
 
 We use SetGroup/CheckGroup and your syntax appears to be fine (either
 that or ours is broken too, but it seems to work ok!)
 One question - what lines do you have in priority 1 - 3?  We found
 that our dial plan would not work unless the first priority (for all
 extensions) was 1 and unless the priorities increased an integer at a
 time (not sure if this is by design or not, but was the only way it
 would work regardless).
 
 
 It starts correct with 1 (there are some NoOp and ENUM lookup, which
 is not interesting for that case)
 
 
 
 Also (and this is really grasping at straws), have you tried using
 different group names in case 'sip-1x' has any special meaning?
 These names can be anything that is meaningful and we use the format
 'line28x' for our group names (which works fine).
 
 
 The real group name is sip- (my phone number) I have
 shorten it at the example.
 
 I read somewhere, if you have TWO or more Setgroup than all previous
 ones will be set to zero back!!! If that is the case than it makes not
 much sense to use it that way I do. As you can see in the CLI outputs,
 I copied, it uses a different name of the group variable.
 
 
 bye
 
 Ronald
 
 
 
 Good luck!
 
 
 Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
 
 
 
 I have some troubles to use Setgroup / Checkgroup!!!
 
 I setup a test (NoOP's are deleted): First caller should get first
 line, second caller should get second line, third caller should get
 busy and send an email. Note, that I used twice here to check the
 first line!!!
 
 
 
 [trunkint_A]
 
 exten = _90N.,104,SetGroup(sip-13); increase Group counter
 exten = _90N.,105,CheckGroup(1); check no more than
 1 in this group
 exten = _90N.,106,NoOp(Line 106)
 exten = _90N.,107,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten = _90N.,108,hangup
 ;
 exten = _90N.,206,SetGroup(sip-12)
 exten = _90N.,207,CheckGroup(1)
 exten = _90N.,208,NoOp(Line 208)
 exten = _90N.,209,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten = _90N.,210,hangup
 ;
 exten = _90N.,308,SetGroup(sip-13)
 exten = _90N.,309,CheckGroup(1)
 exten = _90N.,310,NoOp(Line 310)
 exten = 

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stop this I'm trying to help you.(Fwd: Please confirm your message)

2005-04-14 Thread Jon Gabrielson
And the stupid thing is that it is trivial to set up a script 
to autorespond to these things.  So assuming it is a 
valid MX (which is easy to check for without harrassing
anyone), a spammer has an easier time responding
than a nonspammer.


Jon.


On Thursday 14 April 2005 06:14 pm, C F wrote:
 Why do ppl do this?
 and no I will *not* follow the link.

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 From: C F [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Ronald Wiplinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:05:25 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Setgroup  Checkgroup
 I will need more info in order to help you. Are you on IRC?

 On 4/14/05, Ronald Wiplinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  C F wrote:
  On 4/11/05, Damian Funnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I would try setting the group name to something shorter and less likely
  to conflict with any reserved system names (try something arbitrary
   like 'group1', 'group2', etc.
  
  Our experience with SetGroup certainly doesn't indicate that using two
  or more setgroups results in previous ones reverting to zero - we have
   a total of four SetGroups and these are set and checked extensively
   through our dial plan and they work fine.
  
  You wont see it unless you run into problems or use noop in your dial
  plan to show you what is being done.
  
  But by design setgroup just sets a variable for the current channel,
  it's the same as using SetVar(GROUP=whatever), as soon as issue
  setgroup again the first group is gone, consider the following:
  exten _.,1,SetGroup(test)
  exten _.,2,SetGroup(test2)
  exten _.,3,GetGroupCount(test)
  exten _.,4,Noop(${GROUPCOUNT})
  exten _.,5,GetGroupCount(test2)
  exten _.,6,Noop(${GROUPCOUNT})
  
  line 4 above will return 0, and line 6 will return 1. The reason is
  because you have overwritten the variable ${GROUP} at line 2.
  
  To Ronald, I think your problem has to do with the fact that you are
  using local channels, which are then mapped to sip channels, but I
  don't think you should have any operational problems, correct me if
  I'm wrong.
 
  The code should use one of the two lines (I jump there in with Random()
  ), and if this (first) one is already in use than use the other one.
  However, it does not work.
  I also need to make sure that an outgoing call will set this flag as
  well.
 
  Can you help me to fix that?
 
  bye
 
  Ronald
 
  Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
  Damian Funnell wrote:
  Hi Ronald,
  
  We use SetGroup/CheckGroup and your syntax appears to be fine (either
  that or ours is broken too, but it seems to work ok!)
  One question - what lines do you have in priority 1 - 3?  We found
  that our dial plan would not work unless the first priority (for all
  extensions) was 1 and unless the priorities increased an integer at a
  time (not sure if this is by design or not, but was the only way it
  would work regardless).
  
  It starts correct with 1 (there are some NoOp and ENUM lookup, which
  is not interesting for that case)
  
  Also (and this is really grasping at straws), have you tried using
  different group names in case 'sip-1x' has any special meaning?
  These names can be anything that is meaningful and we use the format
  'line28x' for our group names (which works fine).
  
  The real group name is sip- (my phone number) I have
  shorten it at the example.
  
  I read somewhere, if you have TWO or more Setgroup than all previous
  ones will be set to zero back!!! If that is the case than it makes not
  much sense to use it that way I do. As you can see in the CLI outputs,
  I copied, it uses a different name of the group variable.
  
  
  bye
  
  Ronald
  
  Good luck!
  
  Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
  I have some troubles to use Setgroup / Checkgroup!!!
  
  I setup a test (NoOP's are deleted): First caller should get first
  line, second caller should get second line, third caller should get
  busy and send an email. Note, that I used twice here to check the
  first line!!!
  
  
  
  [trunkint_A]
  
  exten = _90N.,104,SetGroup(sip-13); increase Group
   counter exten = _90N.,105,CheckGroup(1); check no
   more than 1 in this group
  exten = _90N.,106,NoOp(Line 106)
  exten = _90N.,107,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:[EMAIL 

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stop this I'm trying to help you.(Fwd: Please confirm your message)

2005-04-14 Thread Ronald Wiplinger
Jon Gabrielson wrote:
And the stupid thing is that it is trivial to set up a script 
to autorespond to these things.  So assuming it is a 
valid MX (which is easy to check for without harrassing
anyone), a spammer has an easier time responding
than a nonspammer.

Jon.
 

Jon,
you miss the point.
I have setup the white listing system that I get rid of the spam, and it 
works very good.
The message says it very clear what to do, if you cannot / do not want 
to read, it is your thing.

Second and more important question is, why you sent me a message to me 
at all. I subscribe to the list, and there should be the answer anyway.

bye
Ronald
On Thursday 14 April 2005 06:14 pm, C F wrote:
 

Why do ppl do this?
and no I will *not* follow the link.
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:05:25 -0400
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Setgroup  Checkgroup
I will need more info in order to help you. Are you on IRC?
On 4/14/05, Ronald Wiplinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

C F wrote:
 

On 4/11/05, Damian Funnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

I would try setting the group name to something shorter and less likely
to conflict with any reserved system names (try something arbitrary
like 'group1', 'group2', etc.
Our experience with SetGroup certainly doesn't indicate that using two
or more setgroups results in previous ones reverting to zero - we have
a total of four SetGroups and these are set and checked extensively
through our dial plan and they work fine.
 

You wont see it unless you run into problems or use noop in your dial
plan to show you what is being done.
But by design setgroup just sets a variable for the current channel,
it's the same as using SetVar(GROUP=whatever), as soon as issue
setgroup again the first group is gone, consider the following:
exten _.,1,SetGroup(test)
exten _.,2,SetGroup(test2)
exten _.,3,GetGroupCount(test)
exten _.,4,Noop(${GROUPCOUNT})
exten _.,5,GetGroupCount(test2)
exten _.,6,Noop(${GROUPCOUNT})
line 4 above will return 0, and line 6 will return 1. The reason is
because you have overwritten the variable ${GROUP} at line 2.
To Ronald, I think your problem has to do with the fact that you are
using local channels, which are then mapped to sip channels, but I
don't think you should have any operational problems, correct me if
I'm wrong.
   

The code should use one of the two lines (I jump there in with Random()
), and if this (first) one is already in use than use the other one.
However, it does not work.
I also need to make sure that an outgoing call will set this flag as
well.
Can you help me to fix that?
bye
Ronald
 

Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
 

Damian Funnell wrote:
   

Hi Ronald,
We use SetGroup/CheckGroup and your syntax appears to be fine (either
that or ours is broken too, but it seems to work ok!)
One question - what lines do you have in priority 1 - 3?  We found
that our dial plan would not work unless the first priority (for all
extensions) was 1 and unless the priorities increased an integer at a
time (not sure if this is by design or not, but was the only way it
would work regardless).
 

It starts correct with 1 (there are some NoOp and ENUM lookup, which
is not interesting for that case)
   

Also (and this is really grasping at straws), have you tried using
different group names in case 'sip-1x' has any special meaning?
These names can be anything that is meaningful and we use the format
'line28x' for our group names (which works fine).
 

The real group name is sip- (my phone number) I have
shorten it at the example.
I read somewhere, if you have TWO or more Setgroup than all previous
ones will be set to zero back!!! If that is the case than it makes not
much sense to use it that way I do. As you can see in the CLI outputs,
I copied, it uses a different name of the group variable.
bye
Ronald
   

Good luck!
Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
 

I have some troubles to use Setgroup / Checkgroup!!!
I setup a test (NoOP's are deleted): First caller should get first
line, second caller should get second line, third caller should get
busy and send an email. Note, that I used twice 

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stop this I'm trying to help you.(Fwd: Please confirm your message)

2005-04-14 Thread Ronald Wiplinger
C F wrote:
Why do ppl do this?
and no I will *not* follow the link.
 

Good,
can we come to the subject, please?
How can I set it up?
I guess more people would like to know how to get Setgroup / Checkgroup 
to work. Obviously it is not doing as I expected it.

bye
Ronald

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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:05:25 -0400
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Setgroup  Checkgroup
I will need more info in order to help you. Are you on IRC?
On 4/14/05, Ronald Wiplinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

C F wrote:
   

On 4/11/05, Damian Funnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

I would try setting the group name to something shorter and less likely
to conflict with any reserved system names (try something arbitrary like
'group1', 'group2', etc.
Our experience with SetGroup certainly doesn't indicate that using two
or more setgroups results in previous ones reverting to zero - we have a
total of four SetGroups and these are set and checked extensively
through our dial plan and they work fine.

   

You wont see it unless you run into problems or use noop in your dial
plan to show you what is being done.
But by design setgroup just sets a variable for the current channel,
it's the same as using SetVar(GROUP=whatever), as soon as issue
setgroup again the first group is gone, consider the following:
exten _.,1,SetGroup(test)
exten _.,2,SetGroup(test2)
exten _.,3,GetGroupCount(test)
exten _.,4,Noop(${GROUPCOUNT})
exten _.,5,GetGroupCount(test2)
exten _.,6,Noop(${GROUPCOUNT})
line 4 above will return 0, and line 6 will return 1. The reason is
because you have overwritten the variable ${GROUP} at line 2.
To Ronald, I think your problem has to do with the fact that you are
using local channels, which are then mapped to sip channels, but I
don't think you should have any operational problems, correct me if
I'm wrong.

 

The code should use one of the two lines (I jump there in with Random()
), and if this (first) one is already in use than use the other one.
However, it does not work.
I also need to make sure that an outgoing call will set this flag as well.
Can you help me to fix that?
bye
Ronald
   

Ronald Wiplinger wrote:

   

Damian Funnell wrote:

 

Hi Ronald,
We use SetGroup/CheckGroup and your syntax appears to be fine (either
that or ours is broken too, but it seems to work ok!)
One question - what lines do you have in priority 1 - 3?  We found
that our dial plan would not work unless the first priority (for all
extensions) was 1 and unless the priorities increased an integer at a
time (not sure if this is by design or not, but was the only way it
would work regardless).
   

It starts correct with 1 (there are some NoOp and ENUM lookup, which
is not interesting for that case)

 

Also (and this is really grasping at straws), have you tried using
different group names in case 'sip-1x' has any special meaning?
These names can be anything that is meaningful and we use the format
'line28x' for our group names (which works fine).
   

The real group name is sip- (my phone number) I have
shorten it at the example.
I read somewhere, if you have TWO or more Setgroup than all previous
ones will be set to zero back!!! If that is the case than it makes not
much sense to use it that way I do. As you can see in the CLI outputs,
I copied, it uses a different name of the group variable.
bye
Ronald

 

Good luck!
Ronald Wiplinger wrote:

   

I have some troubles to use Setgroup / Checkgroup!!!
I setup a test (NoOP's are deleted): First caller should get first
line, second caller should get second line, third caller should get
busy and send an email. Note, that I used twice here to check the
first line!!!

[trunkint_A]
exten = _90N.,104,SetGroup(sip-13); increase Group counter
exten = _90N.,105,CheckGroup(1); check no more than
1 in this group
exten = _90N.,106,NoOp(Line 106)
exten = _90N.,107,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
exten = _90N.,108,hangup
;
exten = _90N.,206,SetGroup(sip-12)
exten = _90N.,207,CheckGroup(1)
exten = _90N.,208,NoOp(Line 208)
exten = _90N.,209,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:[EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stop this I'm trying to help you.(Fwd: Please confirm your message)

2005-04-14 Thread Daniel Bruce Lynes
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On Thursday 14 April 2005 19:25, Ronald Wiplinger wrote:

 you miss the point.
 I have setup the white listing system that I get rid of the spam, and it
 works very good.
 The message says it very clear what to do, if you cannot / do not want
 to read, it is your thing.

 Second and more important question is, why you sent me a message to me
 at all. I subscribe to the list, and there should be the answer anyway.

It doesn't matter whether you send directly to you, or to the list, I'm 
guessing.  A lot of the time when I receive a message like yours, it's 
because I've posted to the list, and because of the way the list headers are 
written, I get vacation autoresponders, autoresponders similar to yours, and 
so on.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stop this I'm trying to help you.(Fwd: Please confirm your message)

2005-04-14 Thread Ronald Wiplinger
Daniel Bruce Lynes wrote:
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On Thursday 14 April 2005 19:25, Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
 

you miss the point.
I have setup the white listing system that I get rid of the spam, and it
works very good.
The message says it very clear what to do, if you cannot / do not want
to read, it is your thing.
Second and more important question is, why you sent me a message to me
at all. I subscribe to the list, and there should be the answer anyway.
   

It doesn't matter whether you send directly to you, or to the list, I'm 
guessing.  A lot of the time when I receive a message like yours, it's 
because I've posted to the list, and because of the way the list headers are 
written, I get vacation autoresponders, autoresponders similar to yours, and 
so on.
 

Just delete it, ... thats what I made my system with people who send an 
email to me and do not want to whitelist themselves, ..

simple and it works!!!
bye
Ronald
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stop this I'm trying to help you.(Fwd: Please confirm your message)

2005-04-14 Thread William Suffill
Many of these scripts are based on the from which for the most part on
this list is whoever posts a reply. When you reply it goes to the list
address but the from is infact that of the author of the current
message which causes vacation/spam/.. filters to go crazy.

For example I just got a mail box full from a member of this list.
Odds are this and each new post until they fix it will also cause the
same issue.

-- William
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