RE: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk-providers mailing list?
Hi, -Original Message- Well, there's Jeremy, the NuFone guy. I can imagine he'd like a place he can send out notes regarding NuFone topics and responding to issues that may come up. I think if jeremy has the desire to contact all of his customers with such an announcement he can whip up the mailinglist from his customer database. No need to clutter yet another public mailinglist with that kind of info. Absent others, and in any case I would expect users with experience with other providers would provide the bulk of the info. Maybe -biz is already the right place and it's mandate could be clarified or expanded. -biz is to discuss issues regarding business approaches and such. I do think that any list this is mandated to be flooded by 'I'm not receiving any calls on my 800 number, has NuFone gone belly-up?' will accumulate too high a signal/noise ratio to be usefull. My $0.02 Florian ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] asterisk-providers mailing list?
It seems like it might be nice to have a mailing list to talk about (and to) voip providers for Asterisk users. It would be a good place to share info about config, pricing news, customer service, local numbers, transient outages, etc. Providers would be encouraged to contribute sales info. Users would be able to help each other out with technical and non-technical issues. Seems good for everyone and it would keep some of the noise and hurt feelings out of the other lists. The real goal of the list would be to improve the quality of the experience for customers and suppliers. This is something we need to improve in order for voip to be taken more seriously. ? -reed ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk-providers mailing list?
I thought that is what the Asterisk-Biz mailing list was for. http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 12:04, Reed Wade wrote: It seems like it might be nice to have a mailing list to talk about (and to) voip providers for Asterisk users. It would be a good place to share info about config, pricing news, customer service, local numbers, transient outages, etc. Providers would be encouraged to contribute sales info. Users would be able to help each other out with technical and non-technical issues. Seems good for everyone and it would keep some of the noise and hurt feelings out of the other lists. The real goal of the list would be to improve the quality of the experience for customers and suppliers. This is something we need to improve in order for voip to be taken more seriously. ? -reed ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Eric Wieling * BTEL Consulting * 504-899-1387 x2111 In a related story, the IRS has recently ruled that the cost of Windows upgrades can NOT be deducted as a gambling loss. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk-providers mailing list?
At 1:04 PM -0400 on 5/20/04, Reed Wade wrote: It seems like it might be nice to have a mailing list to talk about (and to) voip providers for Asterisk users. It would be a good place to share info about config, pricing news, customer service, local numbers, transient outages, etc. Providers would be encouraged to contribute sales info. Users would be able to help each other out with technical and non-technical issues. Seems good for everyone and it would keep some of the noise and hurt feelings out of the other lists. The real goal of the list would be to improve the quality of the experience for customers and suppliers. This is something we need to improve in order for voip to be taken more seriously. ? -reed Would providers actually contribute meaningful discussion and data on such a list? My experience shows that the majority of providers that I know (and have worked with or for) and who use Asterisk have not once, ever, posted anything to either the -dev list or the -users list. That number is more than ten and less than thirty, to be suitably vague. In fact, the only activity on any VoIP list or organizations from any of the providers I've worked for seems to be... me. This is not to say that I'm always the only VoIP person at these firms (though that has certainly been the case at several) but it does say that providers are notoriously secretive and closed-mouth, and automatically distrustful of anything that could expose them to the shame of running software or hardware that didn't cost them millions of dollars. (frantic_hand_waving We're HUGE! We're MAMMOTH! YOU SHOULD INVEST IN US! We've spent INCREDIBLE AMOUNTS OF MONEY on this system to bring AMAZING RESULTS to our customers and INVESTORS! It's IMPOSSIBLE to duplicate what we've done! Ar!) I would love to see a list where this speak-no-evil trend is reversed, but I suspect it would be a very low-volume list. There is already a list called isp-clec which (sometimes) covers this ground. See http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-clec/ for details and archives. JT ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk-providers mailing list?
Eric Wieling wrote: I thought that is what the Asterisk-Biz mailing list was for. http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz I'm thinking more along the lines of hey, VoicePulse is broken today type of email. Which, in fact, is what got me thinking of it when I had VoicePulse problems this morning. -reed ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk-providers mailing list?
John Todd wrote: Would providers actually contribute meaningful discussion and data on such a list? My experience shows that the majority of providers that I know (and have worked with or for) and who use Asterisk have not once, ever, posted anything to either the -dev list or the -users list. That number is more than ten and less than thirty, to be suitably vague. In fact, the only activity on any VoIP list or organizations from any of the providers I've worked for seems to be... me. Well, there's Jeremy, the NuFone guy. I can imagine he'd like a place he can send out notes regarding NuFone topics and responding to issues that may come up. Absent others, and in any case I would expect users with experience with other providers would provide the bulk of the info. Maybe -biz is already the right place and it's mandate could be clarified or expanded. -reed ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
