Re: [Asterisk-Users] g729 license question
But I don't think Digium is in a hurry to implement such a feature since it forces people to buy more licenses than they really need to avoid dead calls. I don't think they're in ahurry either, but I doubt that whatever their commission on the $10/channel fee is has a big impact on their annual sales :) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] g729 license question
On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 10:32 +0100, Wilson Pickett wrote: I don't think they're in ahurry either, but I doubt that whatever their commission on the $10/channel fee is has a big impact on their annual sales :) Their commission is about $9/channel according to pricing available at the registrar. I am looking at offering $5/channel licenses and other features, which includes site licenses (ie 1 channel for your site rather than locked to your mac addr) and some slack, becuase of one method I am looking at doing stuff it would be pooled, which would result in potentially less than $5/channel but also if you get 100 lcienses you could use upto 110 or something on occasion (ie not always, if you always need more you have to buy more). I am trying to offer some interesting stuff :) -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.sacaug.org/ Sacramento Asterisk Users Group signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] g729 license question
Please let me know when you are going to do it. My clients typical requirement is a few hundred license. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of trixter aka Bret McDanel Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 4:47 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] g729 license question On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 10:32 +0100, Wilson Pickett wrote: I don't think they're in ahurry either, but I doubt that whatever their commission on the $10/channel fee is has a big impact on their annual sales :) Their commission is about $9/channel according to pricing available at the registrar. I am looking at offering $5/channel licenses and other features, which includes site licenses (ie 1 channel for your site rather than locked to your mac addr) and some slack, becuase of one method I am looking at doing stuff it would be pooled, which would result in potentially less than $5/channel but also if you get 100 lcienses you could use upto 110 or something on occasion (ie not always, if you always need more you have to buy more). I am trying to offer some interesting stuff :) -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.sacaug.org/ Sacramento Asterisk Users Group ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] g729 license question
I am wondering how the g729 licenses are done during calls. If I have N licenses for g729, and N are in use and an additional call comes in that requests N+1 to be in use, how does asterisk handle that call? Does it dump it? Does it negotiate another codec automagically? Basically what happens to that call, obviously it wont (shouldnt) let you use more licenses than you have available, but I was wondering what the process was to negotiate a different codec, especially since there are different channel drivers that could potentially use that codec, whatever the method it would have to be generic ... -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.sacaug.org/ Sacramento Asterisk Users Group signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] g729 license question
trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: I am wondering how the g729 licenses are done during calls. If I have N licenses for g729, and N are in use and an additional call comes in that requests N+1 to be in use, how does asterisk handle that call? Does it dump it? Does it negotiate another codec automagically? Basically what happens to that call, obviously it wont (shouldnt) let you use more licenses than you have available, but I was wondering what the process was to negotiate a different codec, especially since there are different channel drivers that could potentially use that codec, whatever the method it would have to be generic ... I can tell you Asterisk is not smart about handling the codec negotiation once you exhaust your licenses. The call will connect but you will see lots of error messages on the console and there will be no audio present. It certainly would be very nice if Asterisk automagically removed G729 from the offered codes once you reach the limit. But I don't think Digium is in a hurry to implement such a feature since it forces people to buy more licenses than they really need to avoid dead calls. -- Andres Technical Support http://www.telesip.net ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] g729 license question
On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 23:21 -0500, Andres wrote: I can tell you Asterisk is not smart about handling the codec negotiation once you exhaust your licenses. The call will connect but you will see lots of error messages on the console and there will be no audio present. It certainly would be very nice if Asterisk automagically removed G729 from the offered codes once you reach the limit. But I don't think Digium is in a hurry to implement such a feature since it forces people to buy more licenses than they really need to avoid dead calls. ouch that is what I was hoping against. This is tricky without making a call during negitiation to see if there is anything available. I have looked at the code and there doesnt really seem to be a way to do this under the current model ... You can do some stuff for some channels, sip for example has a recirect, but that gets into the nitty gritty of a channel driver and codecs should be free from channel specifics (in my opinion anyway). I am trying to work on a cheaper g729 implementation that relieves this problem as well as a bunch of other issues that may be present. One major difference is better support when multiple boxes are used so you dont have to get X codec licenses per box and instead get X licenses for an installation. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.sacaug.org/ Sacramento Asterisk Users Group signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
