RE: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-11-11 Thread mattf
You will always want a good over-capacity power supply for an AMD server(or
any production server for that matter) I always buy nice heavy 500W+ power
supplies for all of my servers whether they be AMD or Intel-based. For AMD
I've used TTGI power supplies mostly and for Intel I usually use Antec.

MATT---

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one other question:

What kind of power supply do you have in the AMD system?  On my 2466, I had 
alot of problems until I upgraded my power supply to a high quality 500W 
unit.  I seem to remember a while back reading that AMD systems were much 
more sensitive to power issues that comparable Pentium units.

On 02:23 PM 11/10/2004, mattf wrote:
 >Hello,
 >
 >I've had a Tyan dual Athlon MP(2800) machine for a year now and have had
 >several lockups for strange reasons on stock redhat kernel and on custom
 >compiled kernel off of Slackware. I've tried every combination of BIOS
 >settings and changed out all assiciated hardware and found the problem:
It's
 >the Tyan. I've also had issues with a couple of SCSI RAID cards when I
tried
 >using them with the Tyan card.
 >
 >This all would have really upset me if the Athlon MP platform performed
 >better than the Intel platform, but it doesn't. This Dual Athlon MP system
 >actually handles LESS total Asterisk load than a single P4 3.2 GHz, and
the
 >P4 has a lot more Motherboard options and cost much less.
 >
 >This is just my experience, I'm sure I am using Asterisk a little
 >differently than you, I don't have 3 Quad T1 cards in any of my machines,
 >but if that's what you're looking for, I'd suggest the PowerPC(Mac)
 >platform. Asterisk installs just fine right on top of Yellow Dog Linux and
 >the bus speed of a Mac mops the floor with most x86 motherboards, meaning
 >more bandwidth for those bus-hungry Digium boards.
 >
 >MATT---

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-11-10 Thread Chris A. Icide
one other question:
What kind of power supply do you have in the AMD system?  On my 2466, I had 
alot of problems until I upgraded my power supply to a high quality 500W 
unit.  I seem to remember a while back reading that AMD systems were much 
more sensitive to power issues that comparable Pentium units.

On 02:23 PM 11/10/2004, mattf wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I've had a Tyan dual Athlon MP(2800) machine for a year now and have had
>several lockups for strange reasons on stock redhat kernel and on custom
>compiled kernel off of Slackware. I've tried every combination of BIOS
>settings and changed out all assiciated hardware and found the problem: It's
>the Tyan. I've also had issues with a couple of SCSI RAID cards when I tried
>using them with the Tyan card.
>
>This all would have really upset me if the Athlon MP platform performed
>better than the Intel platform, but it doesn't. This Dual Athlon MP system
>actually handles LESS total Asterisk load than a single P4 3.2 GHz, and the
>P4 has a lot more Motherboard options and cost much less.
>
>This is just my experience, I'm sure I am using Asterisk a little
>differently than you, I don't have 3 Quad T1 cards in any of my machines,
>but if that's what you're looking for, I'd suggest the PowerPC(Mac)
>platform. Asterisk installs just fine right on top of Yellow Dog Linux and
>the bus speed of a Mac mops the floor with most x86 motherboards, meaning
>more bandwidth for those bus-hungry Digium boards.
>
>MATT---
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-11-10 Thread Joe Greco
> Hello,
> 
> I've had a Tyan dual Athlon MP(2800) machine for a year now and have had
> several lockups for strange reasons on stock redhat kernel and on custom
> compiled kernel off of Slackware. I've tried every combination of BIOS
> settings and changed out all assiciated hardware and found the problem: It's
> the Tyan. I've also had issues with a couple of SCSI RAID cards when I tried
> using them with the Tyan card.
> 
> This all would have really upset me if the Athlon MP platform performed
> better than the Intel platform, but it doesn't. This Dual Athlon MP system
> actually handles LESS total Asterisk load than a single P4 3.2 GHz, and the
> P4 has a lot more Motherboard options and cost much less.

Of course your single Intel CPU machine is a lot cheaper than a dual CPU
AMD machine.  That's like saying your Ford Tempo is a lot cheaper than a 
Lexus.  If you look at AMD single-processor systems, you'll probably find
that the AMD systems are a fair bit cheaper than the Intel - a much fairer
comparison.

> This is just my experience, I'm sure I am using Asterisk a little
> differently than you, I don't have 3 Quad T1 cards in any of my machines,
> but if that's what you're looking for, I'd suggest the PowerPC(Mac)
> platform. Asterisk installs just fine right on top of Yellow Dog Linux and
> the bus speed of a Mac mops the floor with most x86 motherboards, meaning
> more bandwidth for those bus-hungry Digium boards.

The AMD platforms excel at kicking an equivalent Intel platform around the
machine room floor for many applications.  We've been using AMD dual boards
since the early days, and have consistently seen much better performance
at a lower price than equivalent Intel gear.

However, that's with FreeBSD...  I am told that some Linux versions do not
show off the AMD's powerhouse capabilities so well.

The main thing I'd be concerned about is the use of a dual CPU system for
something that is interrupt-sensitive.  There's a lot of stuff going on in
a SMP system which probably isn't going to be optimal for that task.  You
are probably better off buying a single motherboard and splurging on a fast
CPU, at least for this application.

... JG
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-11-10 Thread steve szmidt
On Wednesday 10 November 2004 05:25 pm, Tim Jackson wrote:
> >From my experience the Tyan Tiger MPX is a great board. I've never used
>
> it with *, but I have been using it as a high volume samba server for
> over a year and its never even hicupped.
>
> 16:24:30 up 197 days, 20:45,  2 users,  load average: 0.94, 0.92, 0.89
>
>
> -Tim
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mattf
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 4:23 PM
> To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan
>
> Hello,
>
> I've had a Tyan dual Athlon MP(2800) machine for a year now and have had
> several lockups for strange reasons on stock redhat kernel and on custom
> compiled kernel off of Slackware. I've tried every combination of BIOS
> settings and changed out all assiciated hardware and found the problem:
> It's
> the Tyan. I've also had issues with a couple of SCSI RAID cards when I
> tried
> using them with the Tyan card.

The problems motherboards has is not usually very visible to most 
applications. However, when you get an app for which interrupt timings are 
crucial, you'll notice boards that should have no problems, do.

I got a system that cost $15,000 a few years back. It's a dual XEON 550 Intel 
board. You'd think it would do better than a lot of others. In truth it does 
very poorly with Asterisk. It cannot handle one single call without having a 
problem. 

(Since that it has problems with interrupt timing, it might actually work 
better if I remove one CPU ...)


On a different note. Please do not top post, and when you reply cut out 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-11-10 Thread Tim Jackson
>From my experience the Tyan Tiger MPX is a great board. I've never used
it with *, but I have been using it as a high volume samba server for
over a year and its never even hicupped. 

16:24:30 up 197 days, 20:45,  2 users,  load average: 0.94, 0.92, 0.89


-Tim

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Hello,

I've had a Tyan dual Athlon MP(2800) machine for a year now and have had
several lockups for strange reasons on stock redhat kernel and on custom
compiled kernel off of Slackware. I've tried every combination of BIOS
settings and changed out all assiciated hardware and found the problem:
It's
the Tyan. I've also had issues with a couple of SCSI RAID cards when I
tried
using them with the Tyan card.

This all would have really upset me if the Athlon MP platform performed
better than the Intel platform, but it doesn't. This Dual Athlon MP
system
actually handles LESS total Asterisk load than a single P4 3.2 GHz, and
the
P4 has a lot more Motherboard options and cost much less.

This is just my experience, I'm sure I am using Asterisk a little
differently than you, I don't have 3 Quad T1 cards in any of my
machines,
but if that's what you're looking for, I'd suggest the PowerPC(Mac)
platform. Asterisk installs just fine right on top of Yellow Dog Linux
and
the bus speed of a Mac mops the floor with most x86 motherboards,
meaning
more bandwidth for those bus-hungry Digium boards.

MATT---


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On 2004-10-29 at 20:49, Chris A. Icide ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> The culprit is the RedHat kernel.  I don't know what redhat does with
their 
> kernel or sources.  But If you build your own kernel from non-redhat 
> source, asterisk will compile perfectly.

I did as instructed and recompiled a kernel from kernel.org and rebuilt
asterisk.

However, the problem remains.  I can run one or two cards with no
problem.  But once I enable the third card, the system locks up within
a few minutes.

I tried getting Athlon MP motherboards other than the Tyan S2466, but
no one has any anymore.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-11-10 Thread mattf
Hello,

I've had a Tyan dual Athlon MP(2800) machine for a year now and have had
several lockups for strange reasons on stock redhat kernel and on custom
compiled kernel off of Slackware. I've tried every combination of BIOS
settings and changed out all assiciated hardware and found the problem: It's
the Tyan. I've also had issues with a couple of SCSI RAID cards when I tried
using them with the Tyan card.

This all would have really upset me if the Athlon MP platform performed
better than the Intel platform, but it doesn't. This Dual Athlon MP system
actually handles LESS total Asterisk load than a single P4 3.2 GHz, and the
P4 has a lot more Motherboard options and cost much less.

This is just my experience, I'm sure I am using Asterisk a little
differently than you, I don't have 3 Quad T1 cards in any of my machines,
but if that's what you're looking for, I'd suggest the PowerPC(Mac)
platform. Asterisk installs just fine right on top of Yellow Dog Linux and
the bus speed of a Mac mops the floor with most x86 motherboards, meaning
more bandwidth for those bus-hungry Digium boards.

MATT---


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On 2004-10-29 at 20:49, Chris A. Icide ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> The culprit is the RedHat kernel.  I don't know what redhat does with
their 
> kernel or sources.  But If you build your own kernel from non-redhat 
> source, asterisk will compile perfectly.

I did as instructed and recompiled a kernel from kernel.org and rebuilt
asterisk.

However, the problem remains.  I can run one or two cards with no
problem.  But once I enable the third card, the system locks up within
a few minutes.

I tried getting Athlon MP motherboards other than the Tyan S2466, but
no one has any anymore.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-11-10 Thread Jim Gottlieb
On 2004-10-29 at 20:49, Chris A. Icide ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> The culprit is the RedHat kernel.  I don't know what redhat does with their 
> kernel or sources.  But If you build your own kernel from non-redhat 
> source, asterisk will compile perfectly.

I did as instructed and recompiled a kernel from kernel.org and rebuilt
asterisk.

However, the problem remains.  I can run one or two cards with no
problem.  But once I enable the third card, the system locks up within
a few minutes.

I tried getting Athlon MP motherboards other than the Tyan S2466, but
no one has any anymore.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-10-30 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, Michael Giagnocavo wrote:

> >The only thing wrong with RedHat as far as asterisk is concerned is that 
> >they do something goofy with their kernels and all you need do is recompile
> 
> >a kernel from source.  IMHO, you should always compile a kernel for your 
> >specific hardware.
> 
> Does this mean that RHEL wouldn't really be a benefit to me? (Looking at
> getting a Dual Xeon Dell, and was thinking for $390 or so, it'd be nice to
> have it all supported, and supposedly RHEL's hyperthreading support is much
> better).

I would suggest trying Tao Linux (http://www.taolinux.org). It is 
recompiled RHEL. It is what I use in production, totally stock kernels. No 
problems. Running T100Ps and TE405Ps.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-10-30 Thread Chris A. Icide
On 06:57 AM 10/30/2004, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
>On October 29, 2004 11:49 pm, Chris A. Icide wrote:
>> Only in the X100P format, and only 2 of them
>
>I have to ask -- why are you running such high-end equipment for a 
craptastic
>FXO device?   Don't you find other issues that going to a TDM4xxP or even a
>T1+channel bank would fix?  I mean I ran an X100P and TDM410P (1FXO+1FXS) on
>a weenie P90 for cryin' out loud...  What's this super big system getting 
you
>(except maybe future proofing?)
>
The box is one of my development boxes for developing Asterisk based 
solutions for my clients.

I've always been of the mind that you can't have enough power...
-Chris
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-10-30 Thread Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:59:22 -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On October 30, 2004 10:37 am, Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists wrote:
> > The X100P is not only an FXO device. Many folks use it as a Zaptel
> > timing source only.
> 
> Yes you are of course correct; but that then raises the question of why he
> wants two in there.

Does he? Oh well,  I guess you could have two for redundancy ;-)

rgds
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-10-30 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On October 30, 2004 10:37 am, Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists wrote:
> The X100P is not only an FXO device. Many folks use it as a Zaptel
> timing source only.

Yes you are of course correct; but that then raises the question of why he 
wants two in there.

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-10-30 Thread Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:57:27 -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On October 29, 2004 11:49 pm, Chris A. Icide wrote:
> > Only in the X100P format, and only 2 of them
> 
> I have to ask -- why are you running such high-end equipment for a craptastic
> FXO device? 

The X100P is not only an FXO device. Many folks use it as a Zaptel
timing source only.

rgds
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-10-30 Thread Michael Bielicki
we use RHAS and whitebox and are quite happy with it on heavy loaded
boxes. Dunno about analog stuff tho since we don't use it :)


On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:57:27 -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On October 29, 2004 11:49 pm, Chris A. Icide wrote:
> > Only in the X100P format, and only 2 of them
> 
> I have to ask -- why are you running such high-end equipment for a craptastic
> FXO device?   Don't you find other issues that going to a TDM4xxP or even a
> T1+channel bank would fix?  I mean I ran an X100P and TDM410P (1FXO+1FXS) on
> a weenie P90 for cryin' out loud...  What's this super big system getting you
> (except maybe future proofing?)
> 
> -A.
> 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-10-30 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On October 29, 2004 11:49 pm, Chris A. Icide wrote:
> Only in the X100P format, and only 2 of them

I have to ask -- why are you running such high-end equipment for a craptastic 
FXO device?   Don't you find other issues that going to a TDM4xxP or even a 
T1+channel bank would fix?  I mean I ran an X100P and TDM410P (1FXO+1FXS) on 
a weenie P90 for cryin' out loud...  What's this super big system getting you 
(except maybe future proofing?)

-A.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-10-29 Thread Michael Giagnocavo
>The only thing wrong with RedHat as far as asterisk is concerned is that 
>they do something goofy with their kernels and all you need do is recompile

>a kernel from source.  IMHO, you should always compile a kernel for your 
>specific hardware.

Does this mean that RHEL wouldn't really be a benefit to me? (Looking at
getting a Dual Xeon Dell, and was thinking for $390 or so, it'd be nice to
have it all supported, and supposedly RHEL's hyperthreading support is much
better).

-Michael


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-10-29 Thread Chris A. Icide
On 06:05 PM 10/29/2004, Jim Gottlieb wrote:
>> I have had X100P, TDM4XX, and TE4 cards in it with no issue.
>
>Have you had multiple cards in it at the same time?
Only in the X100P format, and only 2 of them
>
>
>> I never even tried the 2.4 kernels in the
>> system, I built the 2.6 kernel before installing asterisk.
>
>We've been sticking with the 2.4 kernel in Fedora Core 1.  I installed
>FC2 with its 2.6 kernel and couldn't even get asterisk to compile.
The culprit is the RedHat kernel.  I don't know what redhat does with their 
kernel or sources.  But If you build your own kernel from non-redhat 
source, asterisk will compile perfectly.  I recently had that problem with 
a client's system.  They wanted to run FC, we tried compiling asterisk with 
the FC kernel to no avail.  I went to kernel.org, grabbed 2.6.6 source 
compiled it, and everything worked perfectly.

>
>I realize that Redhat isn't the only Linux.  I've only been using it
>because it's what we've always used and it's what I'm most familiar
>with (though my girlfriend prefers SUSE).
The only thing wrong with RedHat as far as asterisk is concerned is that 
they do something goofy with their kernels and all you need do is recompile 
a kernel from source.  IMHO, you should always compile a kernel for your 
specific hardware.

-Chris
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-10-29 Thread Michael Loftis

--On Friday, October 29, 2004 17:02 -0700 "Chris A. Icide" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You may want to migrate away from the redhat kernel, and build your own
kernel whether you build a 2.4 or a 2.6 is up to you, but from what I
understand the 2.6 kernel is more efficient in SMP form.
I concur with this statement, had nothing but issues with RH, especially 
the RH9 kernels.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-10-29 Thread Jim Gottlieb
On 2004-10-29 at 17:02, Chris A. Icide ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> I currently have a development system I use when developing configurations 
> for my clients.  It's a Tyan 2466 motherboard with the latest bios 
> revision, running with two AMD 3000 MP processors.

I forgot to mention that the Tyan board worked for us with one T400P.
We only started to have trouble when we installed multiple boards.


> I have had X100P, TDM4XX, and TE4 cards in it with no issue.  

Have you had multiple cards in it at the same time?


> I never even tried the 2.4 kernels in the 
> system, I built the 2.6 kernel before installing asterisk.

We've been sticking with the 2.4 kernel in Fedora Core 1.  I installed
FC2 with its 2.6 kernel and couldn't even get asterisk to compile.

I realize that Redhat isn't the only Linux.  I've only been using it
because it's what we've always used and it's what I'm most familiar
with (though my girlfriend prefers SUSE).
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-10-29 Thread Chris A. Icide
On 03:47 PM 10/29/2004, Jim Gottlieb wrote:
>We wanted to try the new AMD MP 2800 chips on the newer Tyan S2466
>motherboard, but the systems hang or panic (with DMA errors) after
>starting the zaptel drivers.  We tried putting the older slower CPUs on
>the new motherboard and had the same trouble.
I currently have a development system I use when developing configurations 
for my clients.  It's a Tyan 2466 motherboard with the latest bios 
revision, running with two AMD 3000 MP processors.  RedHat 9 is the system, 
but I have a non-redhat 2.6.6 kernel.  I have had many versions of asterisk 
running on it with no issues whatsoever.  I have had X100P, TDM4XX, and TE4 
cards in it with no issue.  I never even tried the 2.4 kernels in the 
system, I built the 2.6 kernel before installing asterisk.

You may want to migrate away from the redhat kernel, and build your own 
kernel whether you build a 2.4 or a 2.6 is up to you, but from what I 
understand the 2.6 kernel is more efficient in SMP form.

Chris
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-10-29 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
Jim Gottlieb wrote:
Hi.  We're looking for a reliable platform to run 12 or more T1s in a
single system.  Very little or no transcoding.  Mostly IVR and some
conferencing.
We have been been running 12 spans using Dual Athlon systems on an
older Tyan motherboard and 1500 MP CPUs.  This works for about
9 or 10 spans before trouble starts.
We wanted to try the new AMD MP 2800 chips on the newer Tyan S2466
motherboard, but the systems hang or panic (with DMA errors) after
starting the zaptel drivers.  We tried putting the older slower CPUs on
the new motherboard and had the same trouble.
We've tried to find other Athlon MP motherboards, but no one seems to
have any non-Tyan boards in stock.
I know there are no simple answers to questions like this.  But we'd
like to find a platform that can support as many spans as possible.
Any suggestions?  Should we try dual Opteron?  Dual Xeon?  Anyone have
a source for non-Tyan dual Athlon motherboards?
Thanks...
Jim,
	I am running Asterisk and Zaptel on a S2466-4NM with no problems.  1 
gig Kingston ECC, 2200 MPs.  No T1 boards, though...

I really like their Xeon boards as well, but I haven't tried * on them yet.
--
Kristian Kielhofner
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[Asterisk-Users] high-capacity systems / trouble with Tyan

2004-10-29 Thread Jim Gottlieb
Hi.  We're looking for a reliable platform to run 12 or more T1s in a
single system.  Very little or no transcoding.  Mostly IVR and some
conferencing.

We have been been running 12 spans using Dual Athlon systems on an
older Tyan motherboard and 1500 MP CPUs.  This works for about
9 or 10 spans before trouble starts.

We wanted to try the new AMD MP 2800 chips on the newer Tyan S2466
motherboard, but the systems hang or panic (with DMA errors) after
starting the zaptel drivers.  We tried putting the older slower CPUs on
the new motherboard and had the same trouble.

We've tried to find other Athlon MP motherboards, but no one seems to
have any non-Tyan boards in stock.

I know there are no simple answers to questions like this.  But we'd
like to find a platform that can support as many spans as possible.

Any suggestions?  Should we try dual Opteron?  Dual Xeon?  Anyone have
a source for non-Tyan dual Athlon motherboards?

Thanks...
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