Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
There are other Gigabit SIP phones from Nortel and Avaya, if my memory serves me right. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
But I believe Cisco is the only manufacturer producing a phone with a gigabit port for connecting a desktop pc. Anyone know of any other? Glenn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian West Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:18 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk Just buy the Linksys SPA962's they work better than the cisco phones in a NAT env. /b On Oct 1, 2007, at 6:13 PM, Andrew Joakimsen wrote: > My understanding is: > > Smartnet: "service contract" basically allows you to download the > newest sw release. > > Besides that you can buy phones without a license. Presumably as > "spares" But you must buy a SIP license to technically be allowed to > use that software that can be obtained from Smartnet. > > I know there was some changes a year or two back, but wasn't that just > pricing? > > ___ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
Just buy the Linksys SPA962's they work better than the cisco phones in a NAT env. /b On Oct 1, 2007, at 6:13 PM, Andrew Joakimsen wrote: > My understanding is: > > Smartnet: "service contract" basically allows you to download the > newest sw release. > > Besides that you can buy phones without a license. Presumably as > "spares" But you must buy a SIP license to technically be allowed to > use that software that can be obtained from Smartnet. > > I know there was some changes a year or two back, but wasn't that > just pricing? > > ___ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
My understanding is: Smartnet: "service contract" basically allows you to download the newest sw release. Besides that you can buy phones without a license. Presumably as "spares" But you must buy a SIP license to technically be allowed to use that software that can be obtained from Smartnet. I know there was some changes a year or two back, but wasn't that just pricing? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 19:02 +0200, Olivier wrote: > Matthew, > > Did you keep any hardcopy of licensing terms (when downloading SIP > firmware) ? > This way we might double check if CCM license is mandatory to connect > a Cisco SIP phone to an Asterisk server. I haven't seen any such mandate, and didn't elicit one when I told Cisco I was using the firmware/phones with Asterisk instead of CallManager. I don't think there is one. You can look at the release notes for all the 7900 firmware available for download, including the version I got: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/prod_release_notes_list.html . > Beside that, Cisco SIP phones require menu localization files to come > from CCM. > Did you run into this ? > Is there anything special with these phones that make those > localization files to be downloaded (I know that's another topic, but > while we're at it ...) I have not completed the deployment of the phones, as I've had other priorities. I have not yet run into that problem, or heard of it before, but it might be lying in wait later in the process. I'd like to know whether it is indeed a problem in using the phones with Asterisk, and how to solve it if so. > Regards -- (C) Matthew Rubenstein ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 11:44 -0500, Jason Parker wrote: > Matthew Rubenstein wrote: > > I just got SIP firmware images from Cisco for installation on > 7970G. > The way I understand it, that $15 doesn't actually even give you the > right to > use the SIP firmware. It only gives you the right to "access" the > download area. > > The whole model is silly, at best. When I explained to each of the account reseller and the Cisco support that I was going to use the SIP firmware to connect to Asterisk, not CallManager, they each told me only that Cisco wouldn't support (trouble tickets and other tech support time) the system using Asterisk, though they did explicitly assure me (as does the documentation) that since the SIP firmware is RFC-compliant, it would work with any RFC-compliant server, not just CallManager (and so would work with SIP RFC-complaint Asterisk). It's a giant game of CYA. I spent hours getting my $15 worth from the SIP download. I'm surprised a bitter backlash hasn't made these SIP images widely available for download around the Web. I think they might have the serial# of the phone they're registered to when the account is created, and of course the contract states otherwise, but I'd still expect Cisco's deliberately difficult process hasn't created enemies who'd do it anyway. Maybe there are just so few people using it this way that none have materialized (yet). So I guess Cisco's PITA plan is working. -- (C) Matthew Rubenstein ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
Matthew, Did you keep any hardcopy of licensing terms (when downloading SIP firmware) ? This way we might double check if CCM license is mandatory to connect a Cisco SIP phone to an Asterisk server. Beside that, Cisco SIP phones require menu localization files to come from CCM. Did you run into this ? Is there anything special with these phones that make those localization files to be downloaded (I know that's another topic, but while we're at it ...) Regards ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
I was told 7941G were sold with SIP firmware factory installed. Does anyone know this to be true or not ? Regards ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
Matthew Rubenstein wrote: > I just got SIP firmware images from Cisco for installation on 7970G. > Cisco requires you buy a SmartNet account (about $15, no other > dependencies apply) that entitles you to download a SIP firmware image > file from their protected support website. The 7970G now needs a > different image than the other 79xx phones, but the same rules apply to > all of them. Those rules do not require any other license or other > restriction, once you have legitimately obtained and installed the > firmware on the phone, to use the phones with Asterisk (or any other 3rd > party system). Of course, to use the phones with Cisco's CallManager > product, you must have a licensed copy of the CallManager product, with > all the other restrictions and fees that come with it. > > FWIW, the procedure of buying that SIP image from Cisco was a > nightmare. I had to buy the SmartNet account from a reseller which did > nothing to ensure that I completed the download transaction that was the > stated purpose (as they described it to me) of buying the license. Then > navigating to the license I needed, among the many versions and > revisions, was confusing and opaque. The SmartNet account took days to > send to me, and didn't work for the required access when it arrived. > Cisco consumed an entire workweek to deliver the license that didn't > unlock the website, then of course ignored requests for support through > the weekend (into which their late delivery forced my request to be > made). When I finally got Cisco to respond, they did deliver a > knowledgeable and honest support tech who stuck with me until I had > everything I needed to proceed. Though every stated "maximum" turnaround > time for every phase in the process was exceeded, sometimes by many > multiples. > > But since the image can be used only with a Cisco phone, which must > (ultimately) be bought from Cisco, the kafkaesque procedure is > intolerable. The image should be a one-click download that charges your > credit card and comes with a SmartNet account, if they absolutely must > charge the $15. In a sane world, the SIP image wouldn't have any > restrictions, a free download that people could just email each other > (or its URL), because its distribution would market Cisco phones. But > probably Cisco knows that the SIP image lets (free) Asterisk compete > with its proprietary CallManager, so they make it both a revenue source, > and as complicated as possible. > The way I understand it, that $15 doesn't actually even give you the right to use the SIP firmware. It only gives you the right to "access" the download area. The whole model is silly, at best. -- Jason Parker Digium ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
I just got SIP firmware images from Cisco for installation on 7970G. Cisco requires you buy a SmartNet account (about $15, no other dependencies apply) that entitles you to download a SIP firmware image file from their protected support website. The 7970G now needs a different image than the other 79xx phones, but the same rules apply to all of them. Those rules do not require any other license or other restriction, once you have legitimately obtained and installed the firmware on the phone, to use the phones with Asterisk (or any other 3rd party system). Of course, to use the phones with Cisco's CallManager product, you must have a licensed copy of the CallManager product, with all the other restrictions and fees that come with it. FWIW, the procedure of buying that SIP image from Cisco was a nightmare. I had to buy the SmartNet account from a reseller which did nothing to ensure that I completed the download transaction that was the stated purpose (as they described it to me) of buying the license. Then navigating to the license I needed, among the many versions and revisions, was confusing and opaque. The SmartNet account took days to send to me, and didn't work for the required access when it arrived. Cisco consumed an entire workweek to deliver the license that didn't unlock the website, then of course ignored requests for support through the weekend (into which their late delivery forced my request to be made). When I finally got Cisco to respond, they did deliver a knowledgeable and honest support tech who stuck with me until I had everything I needed to proceed. Though every stated "maximum" turnaround time for every phase in the process was exceeded, sometimes by many multiples. But since the image can be used only with a Cisco phone, which must (ultimately) be bought from Cisco, the kafkaesque procedure is intolerable. The image should be a one-click download that charges your credit card and comes with a SmartNet account, if they absolutely must charge the $15. In a sane world, the SIP image wouldn't have any restrictions, a free download that people could just email each other (or its URL), because its distribution would market Cisco phones. But probably Cisco knows that the SIP image lets (free) Asterisk compete with its proprietary CallManager, so they make it both a revenue source, and as complicated as possible. On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 09:43 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Message: 18 > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:21:34 -0400 > From: "Glenn Cobb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk > To: "'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'" > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > In trying to verify licensing requirements I called Tech-Data and > spoke to > the Cisco licensing reps there (my company is set up as a reseller > through > Tech-Data) and was informed by them that a license for Cisco VoIP > phones is > only required if connecting it to a Call Manager or any other Cisco > voice > technology solution such as a Cisco router. If you are connecting a > Cisco > phone to any other pbx they consider it a "third party solution" and > licensing requirements for that vendor are your responsibility. > > Glenn -- (C) Matthew Rubenstein ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
Hi, also I have called Cisco suport to ask how to use SIP protocol on Cisco 7941G (and my Astersik), the their answer is the following: "..SIP Firmware for the 7941G phone only works with Call Manager 5.x. You must have CCM 5.x to use this firmware", is needeful to buy a CCM license for use SIP protocol & Asterisk. -- Salvatore. - Original Message - From: "Glenn Cobb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'" Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk > In trying to verify licensing requirements I called Tech-Data and spoke to > the Cisco licensing reps there (my company is set up as a reseller through > Tech-Data) and was informed by them that a license for Cisco VoIP phones > is > only required if connecting it to a Call Manager or any other Cisco voice > technology solution such as a Cisco router. If you are connecting a Cisco > phone to any other pbx they consider it a "third party solution" and > licensing requirements for that vendor are your responsibility. > > Glenn > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peder @ > NetworkOblivion > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:34 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk > > Yes, you need to buy a license if you use it with ANY pbx, whether it is > Callmangler or Asterisk or whatever. If you buy one used, then you need > to > pay to re-license it as well. > > The 7940/7960 only work with Cisco PoE, not standard 802.3af, so you will > need a switch that provides Cisco PoE for it to work. > > > Erick Perez wrote: >> Hi there, >> In Cisco web site >> > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheet09186 > a008008884a.html >> It says that regardless of the technology used you have to buy a >> licencse. >> Does the license apply to use the phone with asterisk, or, can i just >> buy the phone? >> >> Also, the phone does not requiere to use an AC adapter if used with >> PoE injectors/switches. >> Can non-Cisco PoE injectors/switches be used with this phone? >> >> Thanks, >> > > > ___ > > Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. > http://www.astricon.net/ > > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > ___ > > Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. > http://www.astricon.net/ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
In trying to verify licensing requirements I called Tech-Data and spoke to the Cisco licensing reps there (my company is set up as a reseller through Tech-Data) and was informed by them that a license for Cisco VoIP phones is only required if connecting it to a Call Manager or any other Cisco voice technology solution such as a Cisco router. If you are connecting a Cisco phone to any other pbx they consider it a "third party solution" and licensing requirements for that vendor are your responsibility. Glenn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peder @ NetworkOblivion Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:34 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk Yes, you need to buy a license if you use it with ANY pbx, whether it is Callmangler or Asterisk or whatever. If you buy one used, then you need to pay to re-license it as well. The 7940/7960 only work with Cisco PoE, not standard 802.3af, so you will need a switch that provides Cisco PoE for it to work. Erick Perez wrote: > Hi there, > In Cisco web site > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheet09186 a008008884a.html > It says that regardless of the technology used you have to buy a licencse. > Does the license apply to use the phone with asterisk, or, can i just > buy the phone? > > Also, the phone does not requiere to use an AC adapter if used with > PoE injectors/switches. > Can non-Cisco PoE injectors/switches be used with this phone? > > Thanks, > ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
I do not believe that the web page referenced below states that you need a license to use Cisco phones with any pbx other than Call Manager. It only states that you are required to have a license regardless of the protocol used and their documentation is specifically aimed at Call Manager implementations. Any one else have another view and or supporting document on this? Glenn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peder @ NetworkOblivion Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:14 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk I'm pretty sure that any Cisco switch that has PoE supports pre-standard PoE. However there are only certain ones that do support the standard. If you are looking for the cheapest used ones, then a 3524-PWR will work. If you want new, then a 3560 "ps" version will work. Erick Perez wrote: > Peder, can you point me to the Cisco PoE swith (pre-802.3af) that can > handle the 7940G ? > The 7941G does conform to the standard but it only support SCCP (shame > on cisco). > > > > On 9/27/07, Peder @ NetworkOblivion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yes, you need to buy a license if you use it with ANY pbx, whether it >> is Callmangler or Asterisk or whatever. If you buy one used, then >> you need to pay to re-license it as well. >> >> The 7940/7960 only work with Cisco PoE, not standard 802.3af, so you >> will need a switch that provides Cisco PoE for it to work. >> >> >> Erick Perez wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> In Cisco web site >>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sh >>> eet09186a008008884a.html It says that regardless of the technology >>> used you have to buy a licencse. >>> Does the license apply to use the phone with asterisk, or, can i >>> just buy the phone? >>> >>> Also, the phone does not requiere to use an AC adapter if used with >>> PoE injectors/switches. >>> Can non-Cisco PoE injectors/switches be used with this phone? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >> >> ___ >> >> Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. >> http://www.astricon.net/ >> >> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> > > ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
Hi, on 7941G is needful the Call Manager license, the firmware for SIP use is available (with login) on 7912 and 7940. Thanks. -- Salvatore. - Original Message - From: "Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 4:33 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk > On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 14:58 -0500, Erick Perez wrote: >> Peder, can you point me to the Cisco PoE swith (pre-802.3af) that can >> handle the 7940G ? >> The 7941G does conform to the standard but it only support SCCP (shame >> on cisco). > > The 7941 & 7961 also support SIP if you load the appropriate firmware > from the Cisco website (login required). > > Regards, > Patrick > > > > > ___ > > Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. > http://www.astricon.net/ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 14:58 -0500, Erick Perez wrote: > Peder, can you point me to the Cisco PoE swith (pre-802.3af) that can > handle the 7940G ? > The 7941G does conform to the standard but it only support SCCP (shame > on cisco). The 7941 & 7961 also support SIP if you load the appropriate firmware from the Cisco website (login required). Regards, Patrick ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
Hi, sorry for my intrusion... I have the same problem with Cisco 7941G, can I do buy the the Smartnet registration also for 7941G or this license is available only for 7940G ? Thanks. -- Salvatore. - Original Message - From: "Cory Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk > You need to purchase a Smartnet license for your phone, and have it > registered by a Cisco authorized reseller. > > The Smartnet registration will run you $10-$20 per phone, depending upon > the reseller. The registration process typically takes around 24-48 hours > to process. > > Once registered, you will receive an email from Cisco with instruction on > obtaining a Cisco TAC login. Once you have your login, you will be able > to access and download the SIP firmware. > > If you look around on Google or on the Cisco website, there is a lot of > documentation out there that describes the process for migrating the > firmware. > > I agree, it is a lot of work. I do not see Cisco shipping phones with SIP > firmware on them anytime soon, as obviously their vested interest is in > their CCM and CCME platforms, and their native Skinny protocol. > > They are being dragged reluctantly into SIP and platforms such as Asterisk > present a threatthey are not going to tailor their tools and channel > practices toward folks using a non Cisco platform. > > Cory J Andrews > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of yonoko > molomo > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:37 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk > > Hi, > i bought this device and the cost of the 7040G itself was similar to > the license. if im not wrong, the telephone cost around 80€. the sip > license was around 80€ as well > > however, i am quite annoyed because the phone did not come with sip, > but callmanager so i cant use it as i planned. > i have read somewhere that I need to change the firmware, but i > require a cisco account to download the firmware (but nobody provided > me this account). we paid for the SIP license, but we did not get a > SIP-capable device, and we do not have the way to download the > firmware (yet). > > Regarding the power adapter, I had to buy them sepparately. since i do > not have POE devices i cant answer your last question. > > > > 2007/9/27, Erick Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Hi there, >> In Cisco web site >> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheet09186a008008884a.html >> It says that regardless of the technology used you have to buy a >> licencse. >> Does the license apply to use the phone with asterisk, or, can i just >> buy the phone? >> >> Also, the phone does not requiere to use an AC adapter if used with >> PoE injectors/switches. >> Can non-Cisco PoE injectors/switches be used with this phone? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> >> Erick Perez >> >> >> ___ >> >> Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. >> http://www.astricon.net/ >> >> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> > > ___ > > Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. > http://www.astricon.net/ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ > > Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. > http://www.astricon.net/ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
I'm pretty sure that any Cisco switch that has PoE supports pre-standard PoE. However there are only certain ones that do support the standard. If you are looking for the cheapest used ones, then a 3524-PWR will work. If you want new, then a 3560 "ps" version will work. Erick Perez wrote: > Peder, can you point me to the Cisco PoE swith (pre-802.3af) that can > handle the 7940G ? > The 7941G does conform to the standard but it only support SCCP (shame > on cisco). > > > > On 9/27/07, Peder @ NetworkOblivion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yes, you need to buy a license if you use it with ANY pbx, whether it is >> Callmangler or Asterisk or whatever. If you buy one used, then you need >> to pay to re-license it as well. >> >> The 7940/7960 only work with Cisco PoE, not standard 802.3af, so you >> will need a switch that provides Cisco PoE for it to work. >> >> >> Erick Perez wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> In Cisco web site >>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheet09186a008008884a.html >>> It says that regardless of the technology used you have to buy a licencse. >>> Does the license apply to use the phone with asterisk, or, can i just >>> buy the phone? >>> >>> Also, the phone does not requiere to use an AC adapter if used with >>> PoE injectors/switches. >>> Can non-Cisco PoE injectors/switches be used with this phone? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >> >> ___ >> >> Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ >> >> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> > > ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
Peder, can you point me to the Cisco PoE swith (pre-802.3af) that can handle the 7940G ? The 7941G does conform to the standard but it only support SCCP (shame on cisco). On 9/27/07, Peder @ NetworkOblivion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, you need to buy a license if you use it with ANY pbx, whether it is > Callmangler or Asterisk or whatever. If you buy one used, then you need > to pay to re-license it as well. > > The 7940/7960 only work with Cisco PoE, not standard 802.3af, so you > will need a switch that provides Cisco PoE for it to work. > > > Erick Perez wrote: > > Hi there, > > In Cisco web site > > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheet09186a008008884a.html > > It says that regardless of the technology used you have to buy a licencse. > > Does the license apply to use the phone with asterisk, or, can i just > > buy the phone? > > > > Also, the phone does not requiere to use an AC adapter if used with > > PoE injectors/switches. > > Can non-Cisco PoE injectors/switches be used with this phone? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > ___ > > Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > -- Erick Perez ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
You need to purchase a Smartnet license for your phone, and have it registered by a Cisco authorized reseller. The Smartnet registration will run you $10-$20 per phone, depending upon the reseller. The registration process typically takes around 24-48 hours to process. Once registered, you will receive an email from Cisco with instruction on obtaining a Cisco TAC login. Once you have your login, you will be able to access and download the SIP firmware. If you look around on Google or on the Cisco website, there is a lot of documentation out there that describes the process for migrating the firmware. I agree, it is a lot of work. I do not see Cisco shipping phones with SIP firmware on them anytime soon, as obviously their vested interest is in their CCM and CCME platforms, and their native Skinny protocol. They are being dragged reluctantly into SIP and platforms such as Asterisk present a threatthey are not going to tailor their tools and channel practices toward folks using a non Cisco platform. Cory J Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of yonoko molomo Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:37 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk Hi, i bought this device and the cost of the 7040G itself was similar to the license. if im not wrong, the telephone cost around 80€. the sip license was around 80€ as well however, i am quite annoyed because the phone did not come with sip, but callmanager so i cant use it as i planned. i have read somewhere that I need to change the firmware, but i require a cisco account to download the firmware (but nobody provided me this account). we paid for the SIP license, but we did not get a SIP-capable device, and we do not have the way to download the firmware (yet). Regarding the power adapter, I had to buy them sepparately. since i do not have POE devices i cant answer your last question. 2007/9/27, Erick Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi there, > In Cisco web site > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheet09186a008008884a.html > It says that regardless of the technology used you have to buy a licencse. > Does the license apply to use the phone with asterisk, or, can i just > buy the phone? > > Also, the phone does not requiere to use an AC adapter if used with > PoE injectors/switches. > Can non-Cisco PoE injectors/switches be used with this phone? > > Thanks, > > -- > > Erick Perez > > > ___ > > Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
Hi, i bought this device and the cost of the 7040G itself was similar to the license. if im not wrong, the telephone cost around 80€. the sip license was around 80€ as well however, i am quite annoyed because the phone did not come with sip, but callmanager so i cant use it as i planned. i have read somewhere that I need to change the firmware, but i require a cisco account to download the firmware (but nobody provided me this account). we paid for the SIP license, but we did not get a SIP-capable device, and we do not have the way to download the firmware (yet). Regarding the power adapter, I had to buy them sepparately. since i do not have POE devices i cant answer your last question. 2007/9/27, Erick Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi there, > In Cisco web site > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheet09186a008008884a.html > It says that regardless of the technology used you have to buy a licencse. > Does the license apply to use the phone with asterisk, or, can i just > buy the phone? > > Also, the phone does not requiere to use an AC adapter if used with > PoE injectors/switches. > Can non-Cisco PoE injectors/switches be used with this phone? > > Thanks, > > -- > > Erick Perez > > > ___ > > Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
Yes, you need to buy a license if you use it with ANY pbx, whether it is Callmangler or Asterisk or whatever. If you buy one used, then you need to pay to re-license it as well. The 7940/7960 only work with Cisco PoE, not standard 802.3af, so you will need a switch that provides Cisco PoE for it to work. Erick Perez wrote: > Hi there, > In Cisco web site > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheet09186a008008884a.html > It says that regardless of the technology used you have to buy a licencse. > Does the license apply to use the phone with asterisk, or, can i just > buy the phone? > > Also, the phone does not requiere to use an AC adapter if used with > PoE injectors/switches. > Can non-Cisco PoE injectors/switches be used with this phone? > > Thanks, > ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Cisco 7940G licensing with asterisk
Hi there, In Cisco web site http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheet09186a008008884a.html It says that regardless of the technology used you have to buy a licencse. Does the license apply to use the phone with asterisk, or, can i just buy the phone? Also, the phone does not requiere to use an AC adapter if used with PoE injectors/switches. Can non-Cisco PoE injectors/switches be used with this phone? Thanks, -- Erick Perez ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
